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Driftapparel.com
02-19-2008, 03:48 PM
Well seeing as my freshly rebuilt turbo is probably junk I will be getting a new one but want to make sure I DO NOT HAVE ANYMORE PROBLEMS with the lines. I remember someone saying there was a particular beand that was awesome!

Also will I have problems putting a T28 instead of T25 or any turbo recomendations?

When ordering the lines do I just tell them what turbo it is and they will give me the right ones.

I already had an issue with the oil hardline to the turbo being smaller going into my stock turbo than the "supposed" stock rebuilt one I replaced it with:eek3: It really didn't make sence to me.

Thanks alot guys!

-Brett

rican_nick
02-19-2008, 03:53 PM
http://www.takamotorsports.com/

Driftapparel.com
02-19-2008, 03:58 PM
Awesome! but holy crap those are expensive! I guess it's worth it then. Any body else have insight as to what I should do?

rican_nick
02-19-2008, 04:06 PM
you can make them yourself, there is a really good thread on making your own. You'll probably end up spending more than just buying them along with if you've never assembled -an lines you may hate yourself for not just buying them in the first place.

There are other companies who make the lines, Taka lines i along with MANY other people that I know have used and liked them.

bruinbear714
02-19-2008, 04:17 PM
sr20 turbo lines (http://www.frsport.com/FR-Earls-Motorsports-S13-S14-S15-SR20DET-Stainless-Steel-Turbo-Lines_p_1226.html), get that one, which includes an oil restrictor.

Well seeing as my freshly rebuilt turbo is probably junk I will be getting a new one but want to make sure I DO NOT HAVE ANYMORE PROBLEMS with the lines. I remember someone saying there was a particular beand that was awesome!

Also will I have problems putting a T28 instead of T25 or any turbo recomendations?

When ordering the lines do I just tell them what turbo it is and they will give me the right ones.

I already had an issue with the oil hardline to the turbo being smaller going into my stock turbo than the "supposed" stock rebuilt one I replaced it with:eek3: It really didn't make sence to me.

Thanks alot guys!

-Brett

Driftapparel.com
02-19-2008, 04:20 PM
sr20 turbo lines (http://www.frsport.com/FR-Earls-Motorsports-S13-S14-S15-SR20DET-Stainless-Steel-Turbo-Lines_p_1226.html), get that one, which includes an oil restrictor.

Aren't those the same as the ones in the above link? Same Earl's hosing at least and what does the oil restrictor do? Sorry for my lack of knowledge in this subject! lol

Thanks alot

g6civcx
02-19-2008, 04:29 PM
I suggest Taka above all. They will customize the lines for you however you need. Plus they'll give you tech support. Very few vendors will do that.

If you want to do it yourself give it a shot. Maybe you can learn how and save money, but most likely the first couple of times you try you will spend less money if you just bought it.

Driftapparel.com
02-19-2008, 04:33 PM
I suggest Taka above all. They will customize the lines for you however you need. Plus they'll give you tech support. Very few vendors will do that.

If you want to do it yourself give it a shot. Maybe you can learn how and save money, but most likely the first couple of times you try you will spend less money if you just bought it.

Yeah I am realizing that now. I was charged $50 for one oil line and they were having the hardest time finding the right thread pitch and what not. They cut my banjo off my original hardline to make new one so I can't even put it back to stock! I'm pissed.

SHIFT_*grind*
02-19-2008, 04:39 PM
Aren't those the same as the ones in the above link? Same Earl's hosing at least and what does the oil restrictor do? Sorry for my lack of knowledge in this subject! lol

Thanks alot

If you get a ball-bearing T28, you will need an oil restrictor fitting. If you get a standard journal-bearing T28, you will not.

You'd definitely be better off just buying the Taka lines or those Earls', or even Circuit Sports lines, instead of trying to make them yourself. Stock hard lines are a biiIiIiIiiiiiIitch. Bitch bitch.

Driftapparel.com
02-19-2008, 04:44 PM
If you get a ball-bearing T28, you will need an oil restrictor fitting. If you get a standard journal-bearing T28, you will not.

You'd definitely be better off just buying the Taka lines or those Earls', or even Circuit Sports lines, instead of trying to make them yourself. Stock hard lines are a biiIiIiIiiiiiIitch. Bitch bitch.

So I think I should pick up a standard T28! ima start a new thread.

PhilthyS13
02-19-2008, 08:32 PM
+1 for taka.

If you are going from a t25 to a t28 (which is what it sounds like), you will need to get this:

http://phase2motorsports.stores.yahoo.net/p2ms15tupiad.html
http://www.optionimports.com/tuadsets13sr.html

The t28 hotpipe is 45 degrees, while the stock t25 hotpipe is 90 degrees (I'm pretty sure). That kit allows you to clock the pipes to you can use your stock piping. There are also cheap ones on ebay, but I don't know how well they work or if they are good quality.

Your other option is greddy inlet/outlet, there JUST happens to be one in the for sale section:

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=177822

You snooze, you lose.


You might also need an oil drain. I think Phase2motortrend has a gt oil drain.
http://phase2motorsports.stores.yahoo.net/gttualoildrf.html

McRussellPants
02-19-2008, 08:38 PM
Taka charges way over what it would cost to DIY.

assembling AN fittings isn't hard or magic, but it is a total pain in the ass.

time is money.

I'll probably DIY just because I have all the stuff available.

Def
02-19-2008, 09:11 PM
It does suck, and the -4 fittings are the hardest, but it shouldn't take longer than about 1.5 hrs to make all 4 lines up taking your time.

blinds04
02-20-2008, 04:07 AM
Does this sound right for a S14 Zenki SR20DET? I found this information on google.

Turbo oil/water lines

- 1 x 11in braided steel 4AN oil feed hose

- 2 x 18 in braided steel 4AN Water hose (In & Out)

- 1 x M11x1.0 mm oil feed banjo bolt kit
(for oil feed to turbo / Garrett T25/T28/GT25/GT28…)

- 1 x M12x1.5 mm oil feed banjo bolt kit
(for oil feed from engine)

- 4 x M18x1.5mm banjo bolt kit
(for turbo water cooling in& out)



I am planing on NOT using the banjo bolts and changing them to Earl's adapter. I'm also planning on the oil restrictor.

My question is. "are the threads metric or NPT? or is NPT same as metric?"

In the other thread Ka-t lines: http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=176575

4.) http://www.takamotorsports.com (http://www.takamotorsports.com/)
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u159/zilvia_album/P1260002.jpg
Oil line to turbo adapter 7/16-24 I.F. to -3AN:

.060" oil restrictor (Journal bearing). This is to ensure the proper amount of oil is getting to your T25. Unrestricted oil flow will blow through the turbo oil seals and coat the insides of your intercooler pipes. It has 1/8" NPT threads will fit into the nissport adapter. $11.00

.030" oil restrictor (Ball bearing). This is to ensure the proper amount of oil is getting to your T25. Unrestricted oil flow will blow through the turbo oil seals and coat the insides of your intercooler pipes. It has 1/8" NPT threads will fit into the nissport adapter. $12.00

So I'm really confused if its NPT or metric. Help please.

Koopa Troopa
02-20-2008, 04:32 AM
Aren't those the same as the ones in the above link? Same Earl's hosing at least and what does the oil restrictor do? Sorry for my lack of knowledge in this subject! lol

Thanks alot

It restricts the flow of oil to the turbo so you don't over oil the turbo causing it to smoke or blow seals..

SHIFT_*grind*
02-20-2008, 08:50 AM
You might also need an oil drain. I think Phase2motortrend has a gt oil drain.
http://phase2motorsports.stores.yahoo.net/gttualoildrf.html

Shouldn't need a new oil drain, but I guess it depends on the T28 you're using. My T25 oil drain works fine on my GTiR T28.

sean350z
02-20-2008, 10:00 AM
So I'm really confused if its NPT or metric.[/COLOR] Help please.

NPT is not metric.

bigOdom1
02-20-2008, 10:05 AM
i have the circuit sports and they dont leak or anything

240trainee
02-20-2008, 10:10 AM
I love my taka's, he overnighted them accross the country for me no extra charge because I needed em quickly, good quality, all earls shit and no leaks or anything out of them.

Expensive, but you are paying for the peace of mind.

FR sport is good people too, don't think you could do wrong there either.

Sileighty_85
02-20-2008, 10:44 AM
i have the circuit sports and they dont leak or anything

I second CS all three for $120,

I've never had a problem with them.

Driftapparel.com
02-20-2008, 01:03 PM
Thanks alot guys for all the great ideas and information!
philthys13 thanks for the info! I dont think I will be going t28 yet then. too much money for me right now! can I get a werd on that one!

burnsauto
02-20-2008, 01:11 PM
question for you guys concerning taka lines.

this has been bothering me for awhile. why did taka change the normal AN fitting to a banjo bolt setup on the oil feed line? wouldnt a normal AN fitting lessen the chance of it leaking compared to a banjo bolt? any info on why they did this?

SHIFT_*grind*
02-20-2008, 01:18 PM
I was wondering that myself when I installed mine.

g6civcx
02-20-2008, 01:34 PM
this has been bothering me for awhile. why did taka change the normal AN fitting to a banjo bolt setup on the oil feed line? wouldnt a normal AN fitting lessen the chance of it leaking compared to a banjo bolt? any info on why they did this?

Do you have a link? AFAIK and from the current site, they offer both banjo bolt lines and standalone lines customized however you like.

burnsauto
02-20-2008, 01:54 PM
Do you have a link? AFAIK and from the current site, they offer both banjo bolt lines and standalone lines customized however you like.

oh cool, so you can still get the AN fitting instead of the banjo bolt setup?

Driftapparel.com
02-20-2008, 02:10 PM
yeah I hate trying to keep the stupid washers from falling! I'd much rather just screw it right in.

burnsauto
02-20-2008, 02:15 PM
yeah I hate trying to keep the stupid washers from falling! I'd much rather just screw it right in.

well its beyond just the hassle... each time you take out a banjo bolt its recommended that you replace the crush washers each time, and even then..you can still spring a leak.

i've read alot of threads where guys have sprung leaks at the banjo bolts,, and just wind up switching over to an AN fitting.

Driftapparel.com
02-20-2008, 02:39 PM
well its beyond just the hassle... each time you take out a banjo bolt its recommended that you replace the crush washers each time, and even then..you can still spring a leak.

i've read alot of threads where guys have sprung leaks at the banjo bolts,, and just wind up switching over to an AN fitting.

so tell me this!!!

I did spring leaks with the banjos when I put this new turbo on so I used some silicone thread sealer. Would that have anything to do with my problem!?!

burnsauto
02-20-2008, 07:03 PM
so tell me this!!!

I did spring leaks with the banjos when I put this new turbo on so I used some silicone thread sealer. Would that have anything to do with my problem!?!

you shouldnt have to have anything on the banjo bolt, the new crush washers should seal it. dont over tighten anything though, you'll run the risk of stripping it out, and thats never fun. if you've installed crush washers (new) and you're still getting leaks, you may need to convert it to an AN fitting setup.