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uriah
10-18-2002, 11:24 PM
would it be posible to run low 12's on the sr20's stock turbo if i just increase air flow like header, full catback, fmic, bigger ic piping, any thing else i should do that would help to run around 12's thanks for the info
You just got your car? I'll recommend to you what I recommend to everybody. Learn how it works before you attempt to modify. Don't spend a single dime on parts until you understand how they work and what they do. This goes for an SR swap as well.
http://www.howstuffworks.com/category.htm?cat=sc-engi
RedSuns
10-19-2002, 01:02 AM
good call DSC.....
gemoose23
10-19-2002, 01:26 AM
yes any thing is possible..
for all your answers follow this easy formula.
speed = money
<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>
flipboi13
10-19-2002, 01:30 AM
So many new people getting 240s to go fast and know nothing of why it rocks every other car... so young, so innocent... damn the world!! damn YOUUUUUU......
uriah
10-19-2002, 12:27 PM
ok first of all this is my 2nd 240 i know nissan i just dont know turbo so just tryin to understand alittle more thanks for all your help cuz thats what a forum is for to ask ?'s and get answers i dont know if u guys think you are the badest people in here by doggin on people that ask a simple ? there just lookin for some help from a fellow 240 lover i dont know why you have to be an ass about it if you dont like the ? dont read it
SR20Fastback
10-19-2002, 12:47 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (flipboi13 @ Oct. 19 2002,12:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">So many new people getting 240s to go fast and know nothing of why it rocks every other car... so young, so innocent... damn the world!! damn YOUUUUUU......</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
haha
Well to try to answer your question, I dont think its possible to get into 12's w/ the T25. The T28 MAYBE but, it would defintaely be stretching it. Oh and turbocharged cars dont have headers <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> You're thinking of an exhaust manifold (it looks really windy <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> )
veil_side_
10-19-2002, 09:38 PM
I don't know of SR's reaching 12's with the stock T25/28 unless they have some serious weight reduction to them. I've heard of a few KA's getting there. If you are asking this question then I think you need to do a bit of research first.
AutoDestruct
10-19-2002, 09:57 PM
Yeah man, the reason people act like there stuck up is that everybody wants to take the easy root instead of looking themselves. You have to take the intiative. This is a place for new ideas and filling in the gaps. You have to give to recieve. Don't call me a dick I'm just trying to help you with what I had to go through also. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>
s14 RL
10-20-2002, 12:32 AM
Depends which "stock turbo" you're using. If you're using an S15 T28 you can get around 300 whp with basic parts + proper tuning. Whether that's enough to get you into the 12s depends on your car's weight/susp setup/tires/driver/etc.
Steeles
10-20-2002, 10:59 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (uriah @ Oct. 19 2002,12:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">would it be posible to run low 12's on the sr20's stock turbo if i just increase air flow like header, full catback, fmic, bigger ic piping, any thing else i should do that would help to run around 12's thanks for the info</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
maybe with slicks. and a really good launch. with sucky ass launches and no traction I did a 14.1 and that was at 7psi. so yeah low 13 high 12 might be doable. but dont hold me too that <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>
Phlip
10-20-2002, 11:50 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Steeles @ Oct. 20 2002,11:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">maybe with slicks. and a really good launch. with sucky ass launches and no traction I did a 14.1 and that was at 7psi. so yeah low 13 high 12 might be doable. but dont hold me too that <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
And just WHEN did this take place??? It looks as if someone went to the dragstrip without inviting me and my little blue piggy along, and I am angry now <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky2.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':evil:'>
SilviaDriver
10-20-2002, 11:57 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (uriah @ Oct. 19 2002,11:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">...ok first of all this is my 2nd 240...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
becuz u owned 2 240sx doesnt mean anything..i can own 1000 hondas..and know jack about them..the number of cars u owned doesnt mean u have good knowledge to the cars/turbo etc..
as for ur questsion: no i dont think u can..
and u didnt really say wat SR..s13 s14 s15
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (uriah @ Oct. 18 2002,3:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ok first of all this is my 2nd 240 i know nissan i just dont know turbo so just tryin to understand alittle more thanks for all your help cuz thats what a forum is for to ask ?'s and get answers i dont know if u guys think you are the badest people in here by doggin on people that ask a simple ? there just lookin for some help from a fellow 240 lover i dont know why you have to be an ass about it if you dont like the ? dont read it</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Try not to get all pissed off. You asked a question that sounded pretty newbieish...12sec is pretty quick and the stock turbo is VERY small.
I can't even count the number of people who read a stupidstreet article and came in asking questions just like this.
Rather than try to help, next time I'll ask how much you know about cars, turbos, nissans, and whatever else...maybe I'll even do a background check to make sure your the kind of guy I want to attempt to help.
Edit: I guess it is doable...
corrected
HippoSleek
10-21-2002, 07:21 AM
FWIW, I thought Slide Sqaud Mark's old s13 ran a high 12 with FMIC, exhaust, Mine's ECU, and a few other goodies - on the stock s13 T25 with street tires. I also recall there was a flame war at FA when he was selling it and mentioned that.
Steeles
10-21-2002, 07:38 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (PHLIP @ Oct. 21 2002,12:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Steeles @ Oct. 20 2002,11:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">maybe with slicks. and a really good launch. with sucky ass launches and no traction I did a 14.1 and that was at 7psi. so yeah low 13 high 12 might be doable. but dont hold me too that <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
And just WHEN did this take place??? It looks as if someone went to the dragstrip without inviting me and my little blue piggy along, and I am angry now <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky2.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':evil:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
you were invited it was import under the lights like a month ago at Rockingham. I told you about it. it was the same day as the meet in Raliegh that none of us made it too.
I have definatly seen (as in me watching, with my eyes, in person) a stock turbo'd S13 SR in a 91 hatch run a 13.1, followed up by a 13.2. If u dont beleive me, then the et clock at my track must be wrong or somthing...
The reason i remeber it so well is because the hatch lined up w/a new trans am and beat the cocky ass driver, only to line up for a rematch and beat him again. The trans am guy is a person i know and i remind him bout that every time he rags on 4cyls.
KiDyNomiTe
10-21-2002, 06:00 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (uriah @ Oct. 19 2002,1:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> if you dont like the ? dont read it</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Umm it is kinda hard to know the question w/o reading it, I havn't gotten to that part of my English Class yet <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'> .
Especially when you don't even put a question in the topic title, here I am thinking you juss got your car back from the shop after doing some mods, and you took it to your local strip and it broke 12s, but then I click and see that you are asking if your car will reach 12s. I had to read your message to find that part out <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/satisfied.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':satisfied:'> .
If you wanna break 12s, I would suggest a bigger turbo, unless you know a lot about tuning turbo cars (which you already have said you don't). It would require a lot of knowledge to get your car to that level safely with minor mods.
Easiest way to get to 12s is get some extra help from a little bottle I like to call NAWWWS <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>
Phlip
10-22-2002, 08:59 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Steeles @ Oct. 21 2002,08:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">you were invited it was import under the lights like a month ago at Rockingham. I told you about it. it was the same day as the meet in Raliegh that none of us made it too.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Oh yeah, that was the day everyone was to have met in raleigh and I, like a big dummy forgot that I had signed up to work OT that day... No one told me that you guys were going to rockingham after that though, but Jason DID tell me that you guys went (BTW, did he get that S13?) On the other hand, while you guys were away, I went to the reggae concert so I can't be too mad at you, but when are you guys going back?
MorganS13
10-22-2002, 09:15 AM
i have seen several (2 just off the top of my head) redtop SRs run high 12s on a stock T25 turbo (most of the time its low 13s however), its very possible but getting traction and a good launch is a big part of it. and yea u'll need all the basic bolt ons and probably (can't remmeber but i'm sure they did) use upgraded injectors. basically thats what i've heard and what i'm aiming for with my car eventually
sponger85
10-22-2002, 12:05 PM
the guy Ken(?) from www.enjukuracing.com had a post about his 240sx in the 12's at 126 ......
sykikchimp
10-22-2002, 12:44 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (sponger85 @ Oct. 22 2002,2:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">the guy Ken(?) from www.enjukuracing.com had a post about his 240sx in the 12's at 126 ......</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
he's running a t3/t4 hybrid.. HUGE difference. that is a Much larger turbo.
MorganS13
10-22-2002, 01:32 PM
kens car ran a 12.8 with the stock T25 too, heres a link (http://enjukuracing.com/subpages/ctw.htm), guess he didn't even have to use upgraded injectors.
the other car i was htinking of was a really cool guy i met at the track a couple weeks ago runnin pretty much the same setup as ken... his best was a 13.1 (at 12psi i THINK, can't remember for sure), he was runnin solid mid 13s that day with the boost turned down slightly. he was not running any sort of LSD so he wasn't launching very hard at all. i don't doubt he could break in the 12s if he launched it... really nice guy though, i talked to him for quite a while and he gave me his old KA hotshot header for $100 <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>
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