what do i need!

[S13Leprechaun]

this may have ben covered, and i tried to search putting up a few different things and nothing came up.. so here i am asking for advice...

im about to purchase my first sr, after being completely NA for my entire driving life... finally got the money now... its a 96, s14 blacktop... come with stock ballbearing t28 of course, and i think boosts stock on 12 psi right? anyway, i wanna boose about a bar (14psi) or so... and the car i just test drove with the sr in it, it was boosting up to 12psi... (with front mount)... now, what do i need to do to boost 14-16 psi or so... i know obviously i have to buy a boost controller, and probably bigger injectors like 550cc or something right? and im not sure but maybe a new fuel/pressure reg? so if you can help me out that would be sweet.. heres the specs of the motor so you know whats on it so you wont have to ask.

96 s14 blktop:
-front mount intercooler
-walbro fuel pump (guessing 255)
-stock injectors (370cc)

so what do i need?

[GabeS14]

Whats up man,glad you are finally going TURBO!!!
The stock T28 is set at 8lbs, you could use S15 injectors,If you wanted so you wouldn't have to spend a lot of cash on tunning, if you get bigger injectors with higher flow than that you would def need some kinda tunning..

if your engine is strong/clean, it should boost 12-14 psi without causing damage.and In my opinion you could do that with stock enjectors, but you would be maxing out or near maxing the injectors..I had my stock S14 enginge with FMIC and boost controller, boosting 14psi for almost a year, with no probs,
you will get mixed reviews but, it is possible, to boost 14psi without having to upgrade the injectors and have to drop big$$$ on tunning, just go one step at a time...first make sure the engine is good/strong, then make sure it is installed correctly and reliably, then after getting used to it go ahead and start upgrading..thats my opinion, hope I helped..
by the way..havent talked to you in a long ass time..

[S13Leprechaun]

yeah man its been a while!! havent been on to muich working a lot!! but yeah you helped... but what cc are the s15 injector agaain... like 480's or something? so you think if i got those i could boost 14 psi? i dont wanna have to worry about whether its gonna hold or not... haha... i wanna know... and yeah its a strong motor... VERY CLEAN.. already has 265whp... but i wanna get it up to about 300whp... and i think around 14 psi would do it about.. maybe 280whp only tho... well if its 8psi stock, how is it boosting 12 psi then? it doesnt have a boost controller... jsut a turbo tomer and a boost gauge but that has NOTHING to do with how much it boost at all.. lol. hmmm. any ideas?

[eastcoastS14]

pick up some bigger injectors, walbro, an Safc and a hallman mbc....should get you in the 250whp range i believe...maybe more if you want to push it

[SilviaBricks]

Congrats on the blacktop, but I would stick to 12psi max. Boosting 16psi on a used engine without doing a rebuild could cause some problems down the road. Get a good tune, upgrade you cooling system and enfuckingjoy.

[GabeS14]

maybe the wastegate was set to open at 12psi some how.., but that is geting more techincal than i would know lol..
i just know some basics..
but did the person say it is boosting 12 psi? or does the boost guage read 12psi?
my first guage read 18 psi even though my boost controller was set to 14..
(bad guage)
hepefullly more ppl chime in to help out..

but yea if you get the s15 injectors you could boost higher, but your engine would run a bit richer, you woudl want some kind of tunning to be completley safe.. maybe at least a AFC

[S13Leprechaun]

hahaha... thanks...

eastcoasts14- it already has 265whp... it has walbro, and front mount... and its boosting 12psi and idk why, if its sposed to be boosting 8psi... is this unsafe?

[S13Leprechaun]

yeah afc sounds simple and good... lol... yeah it must be something with the wastegate... its a rebuilt turbo too its like brand new... spools up at around 2000rpms... lol.. fuckin great.

and yeah the boost gauge reads 12 psi.

[GabeS14]

how much is the engine costing?
is it the complete swap?
you should take it down to Steve shadows dyno place to make sure it is pushing 265 cuz thats a lot of power withoiut tunning for a stock blacktop..even maxing out the turbo ...
usually stock T28 with larger injectors and good tunning(very good) at max psi should be from 265-300

[johngriff]

No afc. For $250 more, you could get an emanage ultimate, with the patch harness. Then you can tune fuel/ignition separately, and have extra outs for fans etc.

SAFC - Just say no.

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?p=1077578#post1077578

[S13Leprechaun]

thanks john...

Gabe- actually im just gonna buy the coupe with the sr already in it... im just gonna sell my car... just want a new project... but it has kei office coilovers and megan tension rods/megan front/rear strut bars/ hks blow off/ greddy front mount, with greddy piping... yada yada.

k, i looked up the specs the other day of all the sr motors.. it said the s14 blacktop comes stock with a t28 BB, and has stock hp of about 220-230 or something like that... with the greddy front mount/piping/ dp/ 3in exhaust/ that all will take the hp up about another 30-45 hp from what i understand right? and the wastegate, some how is not boosting 8psi, its boosting 12psi.. so it sounds right to me... the guy im buying the car from said he bought the car 3 months ago and the guy he bought it from said he got it dynoed at 265whp, and 280 something at the crank... so there ya go.. mkae sense or sound like bullshit.

[johngriff]

Crank?

Just dyno it before you buy it.

www.shadowerks.com

I am sure he'll do a power pull on the cheap.

[S13Leprechaun]

power pull on the cheap?

[johngriff]

Yeah, like 1 run to see how much hp the car is actually making.

Then you will know if its worth the money you are paying.

[S13Leprechaun]

well even if it doesnt have that much hp its worth it... he want somewhere around $4500 and its an s14 blacktop with only like 50k, rebuilt turbo, kei office coilover, greddy front mount/piping, yada yada from above.. thats a good deal IMO...

john how much would that cost, and what all info would it reveal to me? and where is this place? the car is located in mission viejo. far from there?

[johngriff]

I don't know the cost, that is something you have to talk to steve about, but the dyno is right there in Mission Viejo. So that is ULTRA local.

[S13Leprechaun]

SWEEEEEEEEEEET! ill do that... thanks for the info man... do you have a link or anything that says the adress? is it right off the 5?

[johngriff]

El Fabricante off of alicia prkwy iirc? Been there a handful of times.

Like I said, hit up steve: aka "Steve Shadows"

[email protected]

[S13Leprechaun]

ok sweet.... thanks alot john for your help. does that sound correct of how much hp the guy claims it has or what do you think?

[johngriff]

It sounds pretty high to me.

Most stock redtops dyno 170-190 ish, usually you dont see more than 240 with stock turbos, but heh, I might be wrong, that is why I would want to dyno it first.

You'll also get a chance to really load the car down, and listen to see if the engine is knocking etc, where as you cant stand next to the engine at WOT on the road.

[S13Leprechaun]

yeah but its an s14 blktop, with slight mods... and stock theyre around 220 or whatever... idk, jsut tryin to get an idea.. and i know your knowledgable so... lol.. well i sent steve a pm on here so hopefully he gets backt o me soon and ill prolly go there... is it pretty expensive to get a dyno test normally? like more than $100?

[powersteeringless180sx]

if you wanna boost up to a reliable 300hp just upgrade upgrade the injectors, Z32 MAF and get a rom tune. that's what i just did.

[S13Leprechaun]

sweet that sounds easy enough.. how much did your tuning cost?? you got a s14 blktop too?

[GabeS14]

Steve that john mentioned, also does tunning..at the dyno place...he usually tunes power fc...its about 400 for tunning..
last i checked..

[GabeS14]

if you dont get a power fc..which will be around 650-800...
you can either rom tune the stock one..through JWT jim wolfe tech..they tuned my first S14 motor..($600)
and there is also another really good copany who does it too.. but i forgot the name...but anyways you get the idea...
you could also get the greddy that was mentioned before(emanage) thats pretty good.. and cheaper than the other options..

[S13Leprechaun]

yeah id prolly go with the emanage since im on a budget.. lol... well thanks for ll your help dudes! i feel better. now if you can just help me sell my car so i can get the other project that would also be rad... haha.jk

[GabeS14]

make an advertisement deal, with all specs of your car and price and pics..ill re-post it.. too.

[S13Leprechaun]

thanks but i already got a buyer!!! yay! should be final this monday r so... ill let cha knw.

[unicoladron]

well even if it doesnt have that much hp its worth it... he want somewhere around $4500 and its an s14 blacktop with only like 50k, rebuilt turbo, kei office coilover, greddy front mount/piping, yada yada from above.. thats a good deal IMO...

john how much would that cost, and what all info would it reveal to me? and where is this place? the car is located in mission viejo. far from there?

Just want to chime in on this....don't believe the owner when he says "the engine has 50k"..everyone says that...but 4500 is a nice deal....but yeah s14 has vvt, and i've read they have 220hp, it's hard to believe it has the amount of whp he's claiming with just those bolt-ons.

I'd also be a little weary since he's selling it after just 3 months of ownership. i would ask him how he can prove that the engine has "50k ". it'd be funny just to see him try and bs you.

[blownmotor]

s14 sr20det injectors are 440cc's should be ok for 1 bar just drive the car and get used to the power and then start adding

[SlideWell]

if it wasnt done already, its wise to replace seals, gaskets, etc.

[S13Leprechaun]

Just want to chime in on this....don't believe the owner when he says "the engine has 50k"..everyone says that...but 4500 is a nice deal....but yeah s14 has vvt, and i've read they have 220hp, it's hard to believe it has the amount of whp he's claiming with just those bolt-ons.

I'd also be a little weary since he's selling it after just 3 months of ownership. i would ask him how he can prove that the engine has "50k ". it'd be funny just to see him try and bs you.

first of all, what is and what does VVT stand for again? and yeah i saw on a spec site they were 220hp stock... and it makes sense to me to be at 265hp... cause just the front mount will give you at least 30-40 more hp depending on the setup right? and he has the oriinal cluster, and its currently installed in the car... and hes selling it cause he doesnt have room for it... he moved from a 3 bedroom house and shit to an apartment due to forclosure... hes a legit guy... i trust him... maybe i shouldnt.. well see... and stock s14 blktop injectors are 440cc??? do you have a link you know of to send me so i can find out all info on that motor? its a 96.

[S13Leprechaun]

wait a sec.... im not an expert, but i just serached to MAKE SURE it was a s14 black top and not an s13... i didnt know the valve covers were slightly different.. but does anyone know if this is really an s14 blacktop? can an s13 valve cap fit on the s13 blacktop? kinda wiery... ANYONE??? i think this may be s13 after all... still a good deal with everything included thats on the car but thats whack... i think the s14 sr has 2 rows of writing thats smaller, you know were it says "twin cam 16 valve"... anyone else know?

heres the motor in the car im buying this is it exactly! what is it?

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d23/1904bmx/sr.jpg

[SlideWell]

s13 blacktop my friend. s14 sr's have a hump on the rear

[S13Leprechaun]

yeah but i was looking at a thread earlier, and some guy had a redtop valve cover on a 1998 s14 blacktop sr20det... he couldve also been lying, but he said you can tell its the newer motor cause of the fins on the motor...? idk... im hoping its still the s14 but even if it is s13 blktop, i kinda dont mind cause then i dont have to deal with VVTC... whatev...

[blownmotor]

that's a s13 black top. try to determine what year is it by checking what number ecu. e5 is 94-95 ,j4 96-98 s14 sr has vtc and the valve covers are different

[S13Leprechaun]

yeah.... so how am i gonna tell if its a 180sx blacktop or wtf? how do you tell... cause it has a BB t28 on it... and im almost positive it has stock injectors.. does the s14 blktop sr come with 370cc or 440cc? which ones? and what color are both of them?

[SlideWell]

oh yeah, vvt is technology similar to other companies, honda made it famous by naming it VTEC, variable valve timing and electronic lift control. pretty much the same deal.

[S13Leprechaun]

naw its a lil different.... VVTC helps on the low end, and doesnt really help power too much like vtec... anyway thats not the point... i just wanna know what motor i have damnit!!! hahaha.. how can i tell?

[blownmotor]

s14 sr20det w/ rear hump has 440cc while ALL s13 red/black top sr20det has 370cc.since it has a upgraded turbo then it should have bigger injectors but you need to ask the seller. from the looks of it you have a 94-98 s13 black top sr20det like i said earlier look at the ecu number

[S13Leprechaun]

hmmm.... ecu number? where do you find that on the ecu at? ill look at it when i go over there next time... there no way itll have a different ecu or? so BASICALLY, he says its a 96 sr20det.... so i assumed it was a s14 sr... nowi know they make s13 blktops that late... so its a 180sx 1996 blktop sr20det... right?

[SlideWell]

naw its a lil different.... VVTC helps on the low end, and doesnt really help power too much like vtec... anyway thats not the point... i just wanna know what motor i have damnit!!! hahaha.. how can i tell?

im gonna throw the book at you for saying that, straight from Wikipedia. VVT is toyota too buddy.
Nissan Variable Cam Timing (commonly known as N-VCT, VCT or NVCS) is an automobile variable valve timing technology developed by Nissan. N-VCT was first introduced in 1987 on the VG30DE engine. N-VCT varies the timing of the valves by rotating the cam shaft(s), valve lift and duration are NOT altered. The system is implemented with an electric solenoid which is controlled by the cars ECU. Some Nissan engines only have N-VCT on the inlet cam (such as the RB25DE/DET) while others have it on both the inlet and exhaust cams.
it is branded technology and you just got :Owned:

[S13Leprechaun]

VTEC helps on top end... VVTC is designed to helped bottom end... thats all i said.... its not really the same.. what you just posted was irrelavent and you wasted your time cause i could give a shit less anyway... but thanks for making me read that at 135 am tho! :) :)

[SlideWell]

its cam tech. helps you at all rpms. im on house arrest, im not wasting any time ;) vtec actually helps you conserve fuel instead of engaging at a lower rpm, or like vtc, always engaged.

[S13Leprechaun]

well im not vtec expert cause i hate that shit, but the way i understand is that vtec kick in only at higher rpms... lol

[SlideWell]

its cool, ive been in the game long enough. im just tryin to help you out n understand. blacktop is a good motor, s14 and s13. sileighty's were only made in 98, from what ive read. id just take a look at that ecu. ive seen people online buy s14 clips with s14 blacktops in em. some hella shady shit goes on and people are often too easily trusted.

[S13Leprechaun]

yeah for sure for sure... its still a good deal IMO... hey got a q.... how do injector fittings work? cause i want to defin upgrade to 440cc injectors, and this guy's selling them from an rb26 for cheap.. can they fit in the s13 blktop? how does that work? j/w... thx.

[SlideWell]

ive read some injectors are interchangable, im not sure about rb's tho. maybe search around a bit and if no luck, throw up a post.

[S13Leprechaun]

yeah for sure.... well im goin to bed... thanks for ur help...

[SlideWell]

i try, enjoy your :zzz:

[johngriff]

RB is top feed

SR is side feed.

They wont interchange.

That is an s13 black top engine.

Later series, but no bulge out of the front of the head for the vct.

I COULD BE WRONG. But i thought S14 engines used 370's as well, and it was the S15 engine that went up to 460(480) sized injectors?

Someone correct me.

[S13Leprechaun]

yeah it makes sense to me... thanks again john.... so i CAN use ANY injectors that are SIDE FEED? or is it still limited to what i can use? is it like one size fits all for side, and one size fits all for top?

[johngriff]

for "denso top feed" yes one size fits all. Top feeds are different, they are not one size fits all.

Are you going to the dyno today? I think I might actually be out there.

[sc ka24e]

most advertiser side feeds(sard, denso, detchwerk,) will work just make sure if the connector is diffrent , to get the plug... then splice and re wire

[S13Leprechaun]

for "denso top feed" yes one size fits all. Top feeds are different, they are not one size fits all.

Are you going to the dyno today? I think I might actually be out there.

naw im not.... i want to but i cant get the car yet... the guy is still holding it for me... i JUST sold my car last night, (well over the phone and hes sendind a check, hope it goes thru) some guy in sf wants it and is sending a check out tomorrow and im gonna fix the few small things wrong with my car then hes gonna come pick it up and drive it home.. so next weekend i should get the car... and especially now that i found out its a s13 blktop not s14, im curious to see what its got...

what do you think its got john, realistically? it does have the BB t28, on a s13 blktop, greddy front mount, s14 downpipe, 3 inch exhaust, walbro fuel pump, z32 fuel filter (prolly dont matter), hks blowoff valve (also may not matter)... thats about it i believe... any idea?

see, the guy never said it was an s14 blacktop, he just saidit was a 96, and i assumed it was s14 cause i didnt know they made 180sx's that late... till now... so im guessing it IS A 96 s13 blktop.

[fliprayzin240sx]

RB is top feed

SR is side feed.

They wont interchange.

That is an s13 black top engine.

Later series, but no bulge out of the front of the head for the vct.

I COULD BE WRONG. But i thought S14 engines used 370's as well, and it was the S15 engine that went up to 460(480) sized injectors?

Someone correct me.

Yes John, your right. S14s still used the stock 370s. S15s used 440s i think, bigger turbo too to make 250hp vs the S14s 220hp.

Anyways, back to the OP: Holy shiet dood, go do some searching. S13s ALL HAVE STOCK T-25s. If it has a T-28, then be happy that you got an upgrade. 8 psi is what the stock wastegate is set at. If the engine is boosting at 12 psi, and you dont see any boost controller attached to the wastegate line, then more than likely it got an upgraded wastegate too. More than likely an HKS one (cost about $100). 12 PSI with proper tuning with those bolt ons, im expecting 250 whp ball park, maybe less. Engine looks clean tho, like its been well taken care off. And like I said in the other thread, S13 blacktops were made all the way to 97. Basically redtops were in both the 180sx and the S13 silvias. When they killed the S13 silvias and made the S14s, nissan continued to build the 180sx and decided that theyre gonna change the valve cover color and add some mods to the engine to help it cool better (supposedly). The heat sink in front of the head and better cooling channels. Also, look at the o2 sensor, blacktops use the fat ones while the redtops use the skinny ones.

[S13Leprechaun]

dude, i know all s13 blktops came with t25's... and this one has a t28... thats why i THOUGHT and ASSUMED it may have been an s14 blktop... but come to find out its actually s13 with an upgraded turbo... and yeah it must be an after market wastegate... cause so far ive found nothing wrong with the motor so im sure its no leak or anything... any other possibilities of it boosting higher without a boost controller? other than an aftermarket wastegate?

[GabeS14]

what matters the most is that the engine runs well man, the worst part about buyinng sr's in the US is that most of them are shit...so make sure it runs well....and worry about the rest when you got it. and if it does have 250 hp..thats awesome..
by the way how much you selling your S13 for?

[S13Leprechaun]

$3800obo... some kid is sposed to get it BY friiday supposedly.. hes pickin it up for $3500...


and yes it runs good.. i already test drove it and looked it over well... really clean in and out... but not like the burgers.

its got a turbo timer and boost guage too... but i got a question, i didnt pay attention, and ive never really researched, but turbo timers have on/off switches right? like if i get pulled over and officer Dick is like "turn off your engine son" and im like "the keys are out!" and hes like "well why the fuck is it still running?" and im like, "OH thats just my turbo timer, oops! i mean!!".. haha... it does right?

[GabeS14]

yes..at least my greddy one does..and old hks did.
if it doesnt have a direct on/off button..there will always be and off setting.selection.....like 1 min setting, then 2 min setting, them 5 min setting then off setting..comprende?
$3800obo... some kid is sposed to get it BY friiday supposedly.. hes pickin it up for $3500...


and yes it runs good.. i already test drove it and looked it over well... really clean in and out... but not like the burgers.

its got a turbo timer and boost guage too... but i got a question, i didnt pay attention, and ive never really researched, but turbo timers have on/off switches right? like if i get pulled over and officer Dick is like "turn off your engine son" and im like "the keys are out!" and hes like "well why the fuck is it still running?" and im like, "OH thats just my turbo timer, oops! i mean!!".. haha... it does right?

[S13Leprechaun]

SI SE PUEDE! hahaha.. idk if thats right but ok... lol.. yeah this one is set to begin with 40secs... but of coursde the hotter it gets it counts up and yada yada...

[eulalia]

i have a feeling it doesnt have 265whp with that turbo

i got my engine installed by john (great job by the way!!)

obviously not a t28, but t25, front mount and a couple other things
mostly stock engine

and i just did a dyno about 2 weeks ago

according to wikipedia my car is 202 hp and 203 ft lbs torque

with the front mount and upgraded fuel pump

engine is running very very very strong very smooth curve on the dyno

and it ran 189 whp (to the wheel)

and 230 ft lbs torque which is good im happy but as u can see the frontmount and other little upgrades dont do that much of a difference as you would expect

good luck and keep us posted

[Ian]

it all depends on what dyno and stuff

the only dyno i ever had was like 4 yrs ago...

my S13 SR w/:
T25
stock turbo outlet/downpipe
2.5" exhaust
FMIC
Boost Controller 10psi
Fuel Pump
Intake Filter

did 210whp/226wtq on a dynapak dyno

[eulalia]

it all depends on what dyno and stuff

the only dyno i ever had was like 4 yrs ago...

my S13 SR w/:
T25
stock turbo outlet/downpipe
2.5" exhaust
FMIC
Boost Controller 10psi
Fuel Pump
Intake Filter

did 210whp/226wtq on a dynapak dyno

sounds about right i ran mine at 8 psi?

iono just 265 whp seems way to high for me that means he has about 300 hp to the crank?

[S13Leprechaun]

sounds about right i ran mine at 8 psi?

iono just 265 whp seems way to high for me that means he has about 300 hp to the crank?

sorta... BUT! it has a t28 (bb obviously, and REBUILT, which helps), and it boosts at 12psi, not stock 7 or 8 or w/e... i heard the t28 (i actually heard this tonight at the local 240 meet here) that the t28 has a wastegate in it that has boosts 12psi... so that could be it... and its a PHAT AS HELL greddy front mount, and was urs a redtop cause this is a black top... meaning, stock, with a t25 of course it has 205hp.. ten upgrading to the t28 probably already puts it to 220-230hp MAYBE at most.. and then front mount, the wastegate, 3in downpipe, 3in exhaust, yada yada, and a pretty fresh damn motor.... its very clean... ill post up the car's "mod list" in a minute... so therefore, im thinking around 250whp... he says the guy before him that did the swap (which was done by jpr or jrp motorsports or something) dynoed it at 265whp... but thats just word to mouth... never know.. its prettyy quick.. but then again im used to a ka.. hhaaha..

[S13Leprechaun]

89 240sx cpe,5 speed manual "clean title" sr20det blacktop with greddy piping w/ front mount intercooler jpr motorsports install, s14 downpipe,hks sequencial blow off valve,circit sport alum rad overflow,new oem sr20 det radiator hoses , new o2 sensor ,jdm radiaror and cap,16" rims with all new lugs,new oil pan, new s14 waterpump,new 300z fuel filter,buddy club battery,nardi wheel with nrg quick release,custom sleeper exhaust w/ new catalyic converter ,oem jdms13 gauge cluster, cd ,new megan tension rods, kei office coilovers all new brake calipers,rotors, axis pads,oem cpe wing and lid, polished megan strut bars front rear and lower, turbo timer,boost gauge and lots more.great gass mileage at least 300 to tank. less when in the boost, just smoged runs great.this a fast sleeper with reliability.finances forces sale my loss your gain.


THIS IS STRAIGHT FROM HIS F/S POST!

[eulalia]

yeah i have the s13 black top rebuilt t25

i know i dont have the t28

i have every single mod you just mentioned minus the t28

so thats only 30 hp difference between me and you right?

so im 189whp your about 220 230 whp max

265 whp is a lot that would mean you have about 280-300hp

u keep saying 220hp you mentioned whp not hp

i went to the exact same dyno you did if its at jpr

not trying to diss you or anything, im just looking out because 265whp doesnt sound right

[GabeS14]

any pics of the car S13 leprechan??
also..can i take it for a quick test drive? ill tell you exactly how much power it has...hehehehe
well not exactly..but i will know if it has anywhere near 265 hp..
because it should be breaking traction everytime you hit full boost on lower gears..

[S13Leprechaun]

yeah i didnt think so either, but you have to remember, its not boosting 8psi, its boosting 12psi... thats the difference... and i have no idea where it was dynoed... im not trying to argue or prove you wrong, thats cool if it does im just tryin to see if that sounds right... im thinking its 250whp ISH... hopefully... either way im happy, its quick... hehe... does it kinda make sense tho to maybe have 250 at the wheels?

[S13Leprechaun]

any pics of the car S13 leprechan??
also..can i take it for a quick test drive? ill tell you exactly how much power it has...hehehehe
well not exactly..but i will know if it has anywhere near 265 hp..
because it should be breaking traction everytime you hit full boost on lower gears..


it does... haha.. thats what makes me think... 1st, 2nd, and 3rd all broke loose... not asmuch 3rd but 2nd definitely was spinning... i mean the tires size aint huge.. i think just 205/55/16... so nothing wide.... but it did brerak loose... idk what it is.. but im gonna find out.. haha.


AND HERES THE LINK OF WHEN HE POSTED ON ZILVIA A WHILE BACK...

but dont think about making offers.. its mine.. lol.. jk.

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=172223&highlight=cpe

[eulalia]

yeah i didnt think so either, but you have to remember, its not boosting 8psi, its boosting 12psi... thats the difference... and i have no idea where it was dynoed... im not trying to argue or prove you wrong, thats cool if it does im just tryin to see if that sounds right... im thinking its 250whp ISH... hopefully... either way im happy, its quick... hehe... does it kinda make sense tho to maybe have 250 at the wheels?


ehhhh i still think it will run 230whp at mostt

if anything i think you will have a higher number in torque then hp

trust me i was stunned when i first got my dyno sheets i was like.... but howwwww is it that lowww.. lol,

oh and i forgot the name of the dyno, it wasnt the dynojet one that gives u super high numbers
it supposed to be (key word supposed) the most accurate one dyno something i forgot ill look it up once i get home from work

well good luck, and your right thats a good area to be in with horse power

[GabeS14]

same here... 250 only with tunning..just boost maybe 240 max

[S13Leprechaun]

yeah definitely... its enough.... just put it that way... haha... but ill still get a boost controller, and like 480cc injectors and a power fc and get a good tune sooner or later... itll just get old and ill want more. lol.. as always.

[S13Leprechaun]

did you guys look at the link i posted? in case you skimmed over it.. here is is.. (its still on the paste button.. hehe)

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=172223&highlight=cpe

[FusionR240sx]

does the car have a vlsd?
cuz i never broke loose in 3rd with my t25 @ 12psi and open diff.
1st was useless and 2nd would spin to about 6k
but i also had 265's.

i could only break loose in 2nd when it was coldish outside.

[eulalia]

ive seen this car on craigslist

seems like a good car to start with

as for the horsepower.. ehh it gets scary.. lol i might sound like a pussy but my t25 hits really hard it trips 2nd and 3rd gear and ive driven evo and a viper, i dont know why my car gives me more of a scare then those cars ever did lol

im still working on getting a little bigger turbo, but im sure with 270whp is more then i can handle.. lol

[S13Leprechaun]

yeah ive driven an evo asd well, at some used car tent sale, and scared the holy shit out of the guy that took me for the ride that was trying to make me buy it but i just wanted to drive one... and this 240 seems right about the same guts as the evo.. maybe not as much hp, but lighter... thats what helps... idk its "teastefully quick" i guessyou could say... doesnt scare me at all, nut ivebeen racing first bikes and go karts for the past like 10 years so im used to fast stuff... i think like, 400hp would tickle me a little tho... hahha..