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hotlavaflow
02-06-2008, 10:00 AM
http://www.swracecars.com/shopdisplaycategories.asp?id=67&cat=Roll+Bars+%26+Roll+Cages

Does anyone here actually have one of these cages and if so can I get a review of it? 10pt or 6pt doesn't matter. I've searched and found little to no info. on these. Just smart-a$$ comments like if they don't cost a lot they can't be good.

Just trying to get some research done and no I'm not dropping $2000 plus on a custom cage so please don't suggest it. I just need this info before I purchase an Autopower 4pt.

**UPDATE**

Just got off the phone with them and they do provide the 8pt cage for the S13 in DOM for $399 SCCA legal. 10pt $499.

upSLIDEdown
02-06-2008, 10:08 AM
S&W has been making cages and chassis parts for YEARS. My dad has been drag racing since I was young, and he's been using there stuff for quite some time. I think his current vehicle is backhalfed with S&W parts actually.

zoomswimmer
02-06-2008, 10:18 AM
Do you know the difference between the D.O.M, mild steel, and moly? I know that they are make from different materials, but what's the different in terms of strength? How come you aren't going for the 10pt?

coolcatracing
02-06-2008, 10:27 AM
Moly is stronger and lighter. Cages should only be made from it or .120 DOM. Plenty of people use .90 DOM and it works but personally my life is worth more than $200 difference. If its an occasional track car the DOM is your best bet as its inexpensive and still plenty strong, dedicated tracks cars are still fine with it but you may be concerned enough about the weight to spend the money on the Moly steel.

Nikeboy355
02-06-2008, 10:36 AM
There are a few people that I have seen that run their kits and they look great...

I'd completely consider getting on... The chromoly kit though for a couple hundred more...

zoomswimmer
02-06-2008, 10:48 AM
I can't find any of the Nissan roll cages except in the mild steel section. Did you call them and see if it could be done? I'm thinking about getting a 10pt one. So the moly is only 0.083". Is that enough? The D.O.M. is 0.120. They both are the same price, so if the moly is lighter and still just as strong, I might go with it. Does anyone know off the top of their heads if these are SCCA and NACA legal?

bloodangels13
02-06-2008, 11:05 AM
Im currently running a modded S&W cage in my prac drift car/ DD s13 coupe. i had the halo redone by a local cage shop ( Piper motorsports) so it was 5 1/2 inch wider and had them bend the ends inward to meet the org. S&w main loop... i also used what was org. the dash bar as the diag bar from the top corner of the mainloop to the opposing side floor. I still have yet to make door bars but in all im was happy with the kit and it decreased alot of money and time otherwise.... me and my Dad did the nessasary cuting, notching, and weld ourselves ( third cage my Dad has done) and im super happy with how it turned out :bigok:

McRussellPants
02-06-2008, 11:16 AM
SW Cages fit better than Autopower but thats about it.

Chromoly isn't SCCA Legal due to poor welding making it brittle. not really an issue since this isn't 1970 but SCCA is retarded.

Seam welded mild isn't legal either, although technically DOM is seam welded then twisted. Nobody really checks for seams though and they're easy enough to hide.

SW Cages were never intended to be SCCA Legal so they don't come with a main hoop diagonal, maybe its an option, I haven't seen one though.

99.9% of 240SXs will need 1.5 x.120 to be within the rules. If somehow you manage to get under 2200lbs IIRC you can run .93 wall.

hotlavaflow
02-06-2008, 02:42 PM
The 240sx cages are on the website when you go under DOM or Moly you have to click on next page and keep going till about page 10. I did call them as well though because I didn't see it either. When I spoke to them they said they could make it SCCA legal if need be.

From what I'm hearing I'm gonna go with this over the Autopower because it's def. a better base. With some mods I can have a pretty nice cage.

bloodangels13 - Do you have any pics? I have the same car and want to do just what you did. I have a sunroof don't know know if you do too or if that matters with their design.

Their DOM cages are 1 3/4" x .120" wall 8pt/10pt
Their Moly cages are 1 5/8" x .083 wall 10pt, 1 3/4" x .083" 8pt

I'm going with DOM so it should be fine for the S13. I've looked for places that accept Moly but they want it thicker. Like Formula D and D1 want everything at .095 wall. And as McRussellPants pointed out SCCA won't allow it.

McRussellPants
02-06-2008, 02:51 PM
2201 - 3000 lbs.
1.500” x 0.120” Seamless mild steel (DOM)
1.625” x 0.120” Seamless mild steel (DOM)
1.750” x 0.095” Seamless mild steel (DOM)

That should be SCCA rule. 1.75x.120 is a pretty husky bar, I seemed to remember that stuff weighing a ton. you could run like 6 bends in the mainhoop and noone would care with that size.

The SW stuff fits with the interior in so you might have to mess with it alot to make it work right.

if you could get your car to weigh under 2200 you could use 1.5x.095 but nobody has gotten an S13 that light yet.

LongGrain
02-06-2008, 02:56 PM
does anyone have pics of their S-chassis with an S&W cage. i would like to see how they look. right now my first choice is cusco/safety21 followed by custom. the autopower 4pt bars are ok, but i dont like their full cage design.

hotlavaflow
02-06-2008, 03:00 PM
2201 - 3000 lbs.
1.500” x 0.120” Seamless mild steel (DOM)
1.625” x 0.120” Seamless mild steel (DOM)
1.750” x 0.095” Seamless mild steel (DOM)

That should be SCCA rule. 1.75x.120 is a pretty husky bar, I seemed to remember that stuff weighing a ton. you could run like 6 bends in the mainhoop and noone would care with that size.

The SW stuff fits with the interior in so you might have to mess with it alot to make it work right.

if you could get your car to weigh under 2200 you could use 1.5x.095 but nobody has gotten an S13 that light yet.

Thanks man I was just going through the rule book to try and find that info.

slideways2004
02-06-2008, 07:24 PM
i'm probablt gonna purchase one when i get started on my s14

mobceo
02-06-2008, 07:40 PM
i have one and i love it

LongGrain
02-06-2008, 07:41 PM
i have one and i love it

you should post up some pics.

hotlavaflow
02-06-2008, 08:32 PM
Somebody please post up some pics. This money is burning a hole in my pocket.

TougeLabs
03-05-2008, 01:13 AM
I ordered my 10pt for my s14 also going to add some fun to it but will post piks when i get it in

240esux
03-05-2008, 01:22 AM
yeah true, moly is lighter but i heard they really dont have much flex and they break/shatter under impact.
just my 2 cents:bigok:

down_shift
03-05-2008, 01:43 AM
This is Dennis George's comments on his S&W cage for his NOPI S3 Wanli team drift car:

"love the cage, this was done in one day, mothers day in fact. S&W Racecars are awesome.... www.swracecars.com these guys seriously kick ass. This cage can be bought as a kit that you have to weld in yourself. You get all the tubing prebent and ready to weld with some notching and fitting."

"Oh yeah, the cage is made from 1.75 in, 0.120 wall thickness, DOM tubing."

"I got a price on the cage that is in my car for those who were asking.

With a standard single sidebar on both the driverside and the passengerside, sloping down like my passengerside. Its $590 plus shipping, shipping to Atlanta is $100.

With the nascar style sidebar, its $75 more.

You will get all the pieces already bent and longer than you need. You measure and cut, then notch and spot weld. I can help anyone who needs it, as I did the first cage myself in my garage with my mig welder. I obviously did ok, cause the cage saved my life/legs. Honestly, had it been an autopower cage, I would not be walking right now, that I am 100% sure of seeing as the car hit directly at the firewall straight at my feet.

These guys can make it and ship it pretty quick."

and some pics
http://www.greekdrifter.com/drifting/dside.JPG
http://www.greekdrifter.com/drifting/psrearcage.JPG

this is from his previous car:

"This is the first cage I got from them that I put in myself. It took me a while to notch the tubes and fit it perfectly."
http://www.greekdrifter.com/nissan/DSC02494.JPG
http://www.greekdrifter.com/nissan/DSC02495.JPG
http://www.greekdrifter.com/nissan/DSC02496.JPG

TougeLabs
03-11-2008, 02:04 PM
For whom ever negatively repped me stating i did not order the cage your correct next time i will do my best to be certain that my aunt does not go in to a comma. Now that i am back home i will be making my purchase. but thank you. This forum is a fucking joke and lives only to put down ppl.
Boot me what ever Im tired of rep system and ppl that try to give me good reps are not allowed to. But once again thanks

TougeLabs
03-27-2008, 02:43 PM
Cage is ordered the guys at S&W are fantastic. Really go above and beyond to make sure your getting what you want. They took the time even to make sure they built the cage to scta specs. Cant wait to get this in my car
KILLER PRICES AND EVEN BETTER COSTUMER SERVICE!!!

i need tires
03-27-2008, 07:15 PM
what was the final price? and what did you get? im interested in gettin a cage from these guys also!

TougeLabs
03-28-2008, 01:32 AM
it came out to be 730 with the nascar style side bar and i had to go with the strongest stuff they have due to SCTA regulations and the fact that i dont want to die at bonneville :) They have alot of options check out the site. Dennis had me contact a gentleman named Scott he was the man i look forward to working with them in the future...

TougeLabs
03-28-2008, 01:38 AM
When it comes down to it a cage is the best mod but spend your money for the right reason its not for the look caugh caugh "Cusco" these will actually do the job. I will post some piks in 2 weeks when i get the cage, im actually going to drive down to S&W to pick it up...And check them out

And thanks to those comments guys! i'm happy to see we still have a few ppl on zilvia that are not tools :)

hotlavaflow
03-28-2008, 12:17 PM
Are they charging you a fee for pick up or are you really saving 100% on the shipping? I didn't even think about picking it up myself I'm def. gonna do the same thing. It looks like it's just a 2.5 hour drive for us NYers.

So basically 10pt DOM tubing with nascar style side bar (on both sides?)

Oh yeah, let me know who puts in it for you. I was gonna let RPM NYC do mine but I'm open to suggestions.

TougeLabs
03-28-2008, 06:20 PM
well if you want man take a ride with me call up and order it and we can go down and pick it up together im in no rush i can wait a week for yours to be done split gas and tolls and buy me food lol and we got a deal...let me know man im in westchester.

O and yes im saving 100% on shipping, Like i said these guys are cool as hell just tell them you want the same cage i have but with the nascar on the left side not the right ! lol

TougeLabs
03-28-2008, 06:28 PM
Im still trying to figure that out a guy makes first car chassis in town hes nasty i just need to call around n figure some stuff out

i need tires
03-28-2008, 07:01 PM
nice to hear man! whats our name so i can let them know i need the same cage you have. You drive a s14 right? so i need nascar bars on left side and diagonal bar going opposite way from your then?

TougeLabs
03-29-2008, 08:02 PM
I have a rhd s14 but tell them Joe Hansen ask for Scott hes the man !

i need tires
03-29-2008, 11:22 PM
I have a rhd s14 but tell them Joe Hansen ask for Scott hes the man !

awesome thanks man!

TougeLabs
03-30-2008, 12:30 AM
Scotts is going to be out of the office i forgot until i think late next week but im sure someone can pull up the order or something and lava let me know if you are going to order deff take a ride with me

hotlavaflow
03-30-2008, 01:01 AM
Scotts is going to be out of the office i forgot until i think late next week but im sure someone can pull up the order or something and lava let me know if you are going to order deff take a ride with me

I would love too but I'm not ordering that soon. It'll probably be another month. I gotta get the funds back, spent them on wheels and tires. The wheels that came with my S13 couldn't take the drop when I installed my suspension. They were rubbing the damper in the front so I had to get some new shoes. But I have to see your cage installed in person we're gonna link one of these days.

TougeLabs
03-30-2008, 07:15 AM
Yea deff. I wanna put together a meet and greet or a bbq or something soon ill keep zilvia up to date !

MunsonAuto
03-30-2008, 07:58 AM
These cages look sweet and I can't wait to see pics of yours. Do most of you buy cages instead of build them yourselves because you don't have the skills (not trying to be an ass), or want a company strength or is it for the event restrictions?
Also a New England area meet would be AWESOME!!!! I'm in VT so pretty much anything in New England is do-able for me!

i need tires
03-30-2008, 11:17 AM
These cages look sweet and I can't wait to see pics of yours. Do most of you buy cages instead of build them yourselves because you don't have the skills (not trying to be an ass), or want a company strength or is it for the event restrictions?
Also a New England area meet would be AWESOME!!!! I'm in VT so pretty much anything in New England is do-able for me!

i personally am not building my own because i dont have the time lol if i can order something already pre-made that will safe me atleast a days worth of work.

TougeLabs
03-31-2008, 01:10 AM
I like the whole giant awesome company saving lives left and right thing.
SCTA is really strict and these guys know it and i dont lol
money well spent and i wish every company was like S&W

mangoes
04-02-2008, 06:05 PM
just wondering but will the cage you ordered pass formula d regulations also?

i need tires
04-02-2008, 06:21 PM
just wondering but will the cage you ordered pass formula d regulations also?

yes it will dom nascar bars all that regular jazz for cages also

TougeLabs
04-03-2008, 10:27 AM
Sorry for the late reply.
Yes this cage is SCTA legal so pretty much you can race this for from SCTA to d1 to Drag anything.

rps13drift
04-03-2008, 11:46 AM
im definetly ordering one next month! I wonder if i am going to have any issues with the main hoop from the 89-94 s13 cage fitting in my convertible?

TougeLabs
04-03-2008, 06:13 PM
rps first of all wtf ? lol were are you i need those spacers. Second off take measurements of it closed were the main loop would be. Then order one and talk to scott. :)

bloodangels13
04-04-2008, 10:47 AM
to warn you the s&w cage halo is 5 1/2 inches to narro ... i had a local race prep shop bent me a new halo so i wouldnt blast my head on the cage everytime i would drive

TougeLabs
04-05-2008, 08:05 PM
? explain more please blood...To narrow like it is going to be closer to my head ? or what ?
Please let me know im sure if i can figure this out I can fix that problem with this cage. do you know the measurements of your new halo compared to the older one ?

cbcustoms
04-05-2008, 08:22 PM
Where are they located? Is it driveable from Baltimore?

TougeLabs
04-05-2008, 08:37 PM
Deff. they are really close to phili. PA
but it will prob be cheaper for you to have it shipped to be honest

hotlavaflow
04-05-2008, 10:13 PM
I def wanna know about the narrow halo. Maybe you could just order it 5.5"s wider.

ESone3
04-05-2008, 10:44 PM
what do you use to make holes in gussets? Just some normal 2 ton punch?

TougeLabs
04-06-2008, 11:39 AM
Im going to make a phone call tomorrow to scott and see.
Yea gussets are pressed

brewster240
04-06-2008, 04:24 PM
im definetly ordering one next month! I wonder if i am going to have any issues with the main hoop from the 89-94 s13 cage fitting in my convertible?


yes you will.

the wonderful frame work of the top in your vert makes it a bit more of a hassle.

for you id recomend hitting up tip engineering. custom cage made to fit your car, and hes local to you.

all said and done will probably cost around the same, but fit you and your car. its like buying pants at wal mart, vrs going to a tailor and getting a custom fit suit.

ill_concepts
04-06-2008, 04:37 PM
Ya these guys are good i ordered a 8 point last sunday and got it on thursday

bloodangels13
04-07-2008, 10:40 AM
? explain more please blood...To narrow like it is going to be closer to my head ? or what ?
Please let me know im sure if i can figure this out I can fix that problem with this cage. do you know the measurements of your new halo compared to the older one ?

yeah the helo was to damn close to my head like i was sappose to be sitting with my butt halfway on the trans tunnel... ill measure to determine the width difference for you.im sure it was about 5 1/2 inches what s chassis you putting it in.. mine is a s13 coupe w/ sunroof

the thing is when you get a wider halo the end where it meets the main loop need the bend inward and at a downward angel in order to get the two the meet up

TougeLabs
04-07-2008, 08:05 PM
I have a s14 no sunroof...Please let me know asap so i can make a phone call and figure this out with them im a tall dude too so i can see this being a bitch...
Did you ever call them and say anything ?
or make a complaint or anything along those lines ?

hotlavaflow
04-07-2008, 08:58 PM
yeah the helo was to damn close to my head like i was sappose to be sitting with my butt halfway on the trans tunnel... ill measure to determine the width difference for you.im sure it was about 5 1/2 inches what s chassis you putting it in.. mine is a s13 coupe w/ sunroof

the thing is when you get a wider halo the end where it meets the main loop need the bend inward and at a downward angel in order to get the two the meet up

Damn that sounds complicated. I have S13 coupe with sunroof as well.

TougeLabs
04-09-2008, 04:06 PM
Damn that sounds complicated. I have S13 coupe with sunroof as well.

I left a message for Scott today, I think hes the actual owner so im sure hes busy but im sure i will hear back from him lets get this fixed lol b4 we all get cages that fit

Izzy's Cages
05-22-2008, 04:49 PM
You have to remember, kit cages are built for the most common denominator... full interiors. That may be why the halo is "5" too narrow" or why you can fit your arm between the hoop and the B pillar ;)

http://www.izzyscustomcages.com/images/CustCars/Nissan/Drift240/SR_S1364.JPGhttp://www.izzyscustomcages.com/images/CustCars/Nissan/Drift240/SR_S1362.JPG

SWAT Team S14
05-22-2008, 08:28 PM
do you have to remove the door panels for the nascar style double door bars? or is there a way to trim the door panels to fit around the bars?

lazierhobo
05-22-2008, 09:29 PM
if your worried about being able to have door panels then you probably dont need nascar style double door bars. with any cage that is fit in a car with no interior, your probably not gonna be able to have much door panel left, but it always depends on how the cage is designed.

Wiisass
05-24-2008, 11:06 PM
So I didn't want to say anything until I had actually experienced one of these first hand. I just got finished installing one into an Joe's S14 (TougeLabs).

I think it came out alright and this kind of thing is good for the guy who has time, a welder and a nothcer or even just a sweet angle grinder.

But my review, as someone who has built a decent amount of cages is the kit isn't worth it if you have someone close to you who can build sweet cages. The main hoop fit alright, close enough to the walls to be decent. The biggest problem was that it wasn't flat, which just made for some extra work trying to get everything in the right spot. But it was nothing a couple ratchet straps and a quick clamp or two couldn't fix. The halo had the same problem with not being flat, but it can be fixed, it just depends on how you jig it up. The halo was also pretty wide, but this is how I usually bend my halos. It will give you the most headroom as possible, you just have to put a small bend at the end of each leg on the halo where it attaches to the main hoop. But for someone without a bender, it's going to put the halo a decent bit lower, to the point where you will see the whole halo when looking through the side window. The rest of the bars were all longer than needed and none of I couldn't use any of the notches. So each bar was cut and renotched to fit where I wanted it. The base plates worked for the most part, but they're also flat and don't spread the load as effectively as the base plates that I make for my cages. I ended up cutting down the rear base plates and the front a-pillar ones a little to make them easier to fit where I wanted them. The thing I liked least about it was the way the a-pillar bars were bent. They could've used a little more of a bend and that would've put them closer to the factory dash bar. They ended up a little too far in front of it, but it's not that big of a deal. It actually made fitting up the dash easier because nothing had to be done to the dash, a little muscle and it tucked past the bars and into place. The rest of the bars just needed to be shortened. The NASCAR door bars ended up with only one bend in them because they were way too long. But it went together and will do stuff, so it could've been a lot worse.

But I would still not recommend this if you have someone near you who can build you a better cage. I think now that I have done one, I am not going to do anymore. It's not that it was that bad, it just didn't fit like my cages do or how I wanted it to and it's probably more cost effective for the customer to have me just do the whole thing for them. But I'm not exactly sure what Joe paid for this kit.

Anyway, here are some pics of my interpretation of the S&W kit.

http://www.theoryinpracticeengineering.com/gallery/d/5806-3/DSC01604.JPG

http://www.theoryinpracticeengineering.com/gallery/d/5800-3/DSC01602.JPG

http://www.theoryinpracticeengineering.com/gallery/d/5785-3/DSC01612.JPG

http://www.theoryinpracticeengineering.com/gallery/d/5812-3/DSC01606.JPG

http://www.theoryinpracticeengineering.com/gallery/d/5797-3/DSC01601.JPG

And here are the rest:
http://www.theoryinpracticeengineering.com/gallery/tipwork/joe_sandw/

Tim

TougeLabs
05-24-2008, 11:49 PM
Well i could not be happier with Tims work. I met Tim a little to late to have him build me a cage. I have not had a chance to see my new cage in person yet but soon enough. If i ever have any needs though for cage work or anything outside of my skill lever I will undoubtedly go see Tim again. As for the issues with this cage honestly I will be making some phone calls on Tuesday and we will see what they say. I am an honest guy and when a sponsors product falls short of the quality they promise i have an issue. With this type of sponsors product i was unable to see it till it was done. I am happy with the work and the cage... I am really upset that Tim had to go balls out to make this cage work when its sold as a weld in.

So i will post something up Tuesday.

Dustxking
05-26-2008, 03:33 PM
OK i have been reading through this thread because i am thinking of purchasing one of these cages.

Do they have the bar behind the seats for the harness to go over at a 45 degree angle so if a wreck could acurr no spines would be getting messed up.

In the pictures on the first page it doesnt seem like the harness is at the right angle and it would seem to me that welding a harness bar inbetween the two upright bars would make the harness sit higher for people with a taller torso.

TougeLabs
05-26-2008, 11:16 PM
These cages are to spec. before you go purchasing one of these wait for my feedback...I am having some what of an issue with everything. Not on Tims part all S&W related issues.

SleeperSx
05-27-2008, 06:12 AM
The Prices on Rollcages for our cars are a Joke!! I have built Several Rollcages for dirt cars my family and I race. 16 point cages for around 300$. I just don't understand why these manufactures think a S13 or s14 is so Special and they should jack up the prices.

Im personally building my own cage. I know most of you don't have the ability too, But your seriously getting screwed on this product.

TougeLabs
05-27-2008, 09:05 PM
Would love to see your cage man...I leave safety to others that excel in doing it for a living and Tim is the man would rather pay him and have a cage that will function "knock on wood" if i need it to. Also last time i checked the pipe alone costs like 300 dollars to make a 10pt let alone a 16pt unless your planning on using pvc piping :) Anyway show us some cage work that you have done. And ability also takes the right tools to execute I think your forgetting that.

Dustxking
05-28-2008, 02:08 AM
Arg i want to order a cage and this price is way better then cusco, I want to know if i should pick this up or not.

TougeLabs
05-28-2008, 09:37 PM
Im still some what on edge with this whole situation as of right now...Tomorrow I am going to call them again...The issues are as stated by Tim from TIP...All of the bends did not lay flat, the price is great and the two different options for our S chassis are a nice setup...If you do order call and speak to Scott and tell him Joe Hansen with the Silvia sent you...
Cages do kick ass and cusco is a giant waste of money so If your trying to choose between the two go S&W with out a doubt...I would rather see you use pvc piping then cusco at least you wont expect it to work if ever needed...Sorry if i offended anyone rocking a Cusco but you cant disagree with me....Anyway my car will be back Monday and I will take some more pictures and shit...

At least my car will be safe sitting in my garage totally apart :)

McRussellPants
05-28-2008, 09:53 PM
Sorry if i offended anyone rocking a Cusco but you cant disagree with me.


uhhh, there are lots of pics floating around with cars balled around cusco cages and the cage still isn't compromised.


They're not the death trap the great wizard that compiles the SCCA rulebook would want you to believe.

Dustxking
05-29-2008, 02:45 AM
Im still some what on edge with this whole situation as of right now...Tomorrow I am going to call them again...The issues are as stated by Tim from TIP...All of the bends did not lay flat, the price is great and the two different options for our S chassis are a nice setup...If you do order call and speak to Scott and tell him Joe Hansen with the Silvia sent you...


So if i order one of these with the specs that i want, will i have to do fabrication for my s13 hatch for it to fit in right and weld into place?

550sx!
05-29-2008, 01:27 PM
I just installed one of the s&w 10 pt cages in my car.
It is only 50 percent welded, going to finish welding this weekend
ran out of gas for mig.
My main hoop and roof hoop were both flat. maybe I was lucky.

Did not use side bars , used them to reinforce the rear braces,
from 5 inches up from floor on main hoop to about 20 inches down length of rearbraces, my rear braces are long running past the subframe and
connect right above frame rails behind wheel tubs.
also connected rearraces horizontally close to where the other braces tie in.
Might connect horizontal bar down to subframe and then short braces out to
shock mounts.

TougeLabs
05-30-2008, 11:19 AM
sounds like a good old jungle gym to me...My car will be back on Monday :) so the rest of the work will begin then I also plan on adding some additional bars like an x brace under the chassis itself and some front lower bracing...But post up some piks of your cage I would love to see the drag cage installed...I have a "drift" cage or so they call it. Good luck this weekend man

gunluvS14
05-30-2008, 11:29 AM
Chromoly isn't SCCA Legal due to poor welding making it brittle. not really an issue since this isn't 1970 but SCCA is retarded.

just a side note, poor welding doesn't make chromoly brittle, any welding on 4030 steel will make them brittle, you just have to anneal it afterward.

Mr. Jesse
05-30-2008, 07:31 PM
can you get these cages ordered for "interior out" cars so they sit closer to the pillars.

TougeLabs
05-31-2008, 06:42 AM
Yes Mr.Jesse...They have a few options I want to get piks up of the other cages they supply we only have pictures of the "drift" style cage.

canuckster240
05-31-2008, 06:57 AM
lol "drift style" how paradocailly comical, aah marketting woes...

I'd be interested in ones for a stripped out s13... no interior.

slideways2004
06-01-2008, 12:26 AM
can you get these cages ordered for "interior out" cars so they sit closer to the pillars.

same question. i could care less how they fit with stock panels. i want to sit close the actual pillars and roof

TougeLabs
06-01-2008, 08:27 PM
Well its really up to the person who is installing the cage. Are any of you guys really interested in making a purchase I can try to see what i can do for zilvia members on a price.

Get a list going!

Dustxking
06-01-2008, 09:12 PM
+1 i am going to be getting mine.

Dustxking
06-04-2008, 02:01 PM
Any updates yet?!?!

TougeLabs
06-04-2008, 06:48 PM
Hey sorry man I spoked to Scott and sent him over an Email stating the issues and what not he going to take care of me "I hope thats true" The cage looks f*$king killer though.

When would you want to order the cage ?

Dustxking
06-04-2008, 07:41 PM
My whole situation is, there is a company a state away from me, about a hour away. That makes these cages so i could go pick it up myself so i dont have to go pay for shipping.

And i can customize it how i want it online and then they call me/email me when it is done.

So i just want to see how yours looks and how you Fab'd it so i can make my final decision.

TougeLabs
06-04-2008, 08:46 PM
I will try to take some pictures but piks are up on the 2 pages b4 this one...Of my car and Dennis George's, I am a big fan of my cage thats all I know really.

Dustxking
06-04-2008, 09:22 PM
Also i am saying if i do get this cage Will i have to fab it to fit?

Or what? Do i need to take some steps into making this cage fit right. I dont want a 2 week project that could be a couple day gig.

TougeLabs
06-05-2008, 02:43 PM
The cage it self will come mostly cut and ready to fit no bending is involved. just notch and cuts really.

Dustxking
06-06-2008, 01:40 AM
Sweet deal so all i need is a welder basically?

TougeLabs
06-15-2008, 08:58 AM
Yea and everything is good to go with these cages. So if your planning on making an order let me know and I will get things rolling for a real nice price.

brian m
06-15-2008, 09:50 AM
Let me know what the prices could be. I know 2 others that might be ready for a cage here and it should cut down on shipping.

2JZGTE
06-16-2008, 06:13 AM
I can vouch for S&W. Using their 8pt chromoly cage in my S13 :) Here's pics of it after we finished all the TIG welding.

We added the X in the rear bars with some 1.75" chromoly same thickness that was sourced locally.

I weighed the entire cage including mounting plates before install. She came out to 62lbs for this chromoly version, not bad!


http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6233/mg3275gl6.jpg

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/8793/mg3292ew3.jpg

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/2295/s138ek6.jpg

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9473/s139tv7.jpg

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/6378/s1310ga9.jpg

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/8972/mg3272ut2.jpg

sidewaysil80
06-16-2008, 06:20 AM
i have one in the sil80 and its pretty good. the thickness is on point and it's really well designed. the only problem is the door bars sit kinda high (but i'm a fat kid and anything i have to lift my leg up for is "kinda high" lol). also, a buddy from another forum borrowed it for formula d and it passed tech with flying colors.

2JZGTE
06-16-2008, 06:35 AM
Ya any pre-bent pre-notched weld-in cage isn't going to be perfect and is going to require a little bit of work to get it perfect. Damn though, this was an awesome buy at $399 for an 8point chromoly cage.

Billy

a_ahmed
06-16-2008, 06:39 AM
mm Moton hehe

Devens240
11-27-2008, 04:31 PM
for those of you with nascar style door bars in an S13. are you still able to roll your windows up and down?

550sx!
06-08-2009, 10:41 AM
so hear is some pics of my cage, did not realize they made cages for different styles of racing when I bought mine. damm would have like an scca aproved cage. mine is just to reinforce car and add some safety for open track days and mountain driving.

don't know how to embed images. looks like it was trying but not working, this was all I could get
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_SGUbRsSMrvQ/SZrTOJA8moI/AAAAAAAAAxw/_rnJKcu3NJs/s400/ew.JPG

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/fYUKk1e93B1kZ9gRtnnPGg?feat=directlink

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/A9DkXfJ6lT8Ia2zfraus2A?feat=directlink

uthemofo
07-21-2010, 12:18 AM
that shit sucks

soreballz
07-21-2010, 12:44 AM
Awesome thread resurrection, dude.

bftII40
07-21-2010, 12:56 AM
haha. message length acheived