Sneak Peek. LS1 S14 Turbo setup.

[blu808]

Well Since I am making a turbo kit for the Fc3s with Ls1 engines. I thought it would be nice of me to make one for the s14 ls1 guys as well. Here are some pre production shots.

T304 stainless manifold. Turbonetics t62/t04 with ??ar.
Should make around 550 whp on 6-7 psi. 750 whp on 13-15 psi with forged pistons and other junk.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g204/turboskeet/turboproject007.jpg

Down pipe clearance.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g204/turboskeet/turboproject005.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g204/turboskeet/turboproject003.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g204/turboskeet/turboproject002.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g204/turboskeet/turboproject001.jpg

hood clearance.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g204/turboskeet/turboproject006.jpg

S14 intercooler, dp, and piping coming shortly.

And yes It fits the Ls1 Fc3s as well.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g204/turboskeet/fc2.jpg


Please let me know if you would have interest in this kit for your car. Demand will base if we offer the kit for sale.

[bbejj123]

thats hot!!!! +1 for a clean ass setup

[blu808]

Thanks bbejj123

Interested people list:

rh4motorsports
slapwig
alexs14
fark barcinal
Jared

[DreamN]

I'm just a wee tiny bit jealous lol. looks freakin sick luke. are both those swaps carb legal or did you not worry about that?

[blu808]

I dont think the turbo setup will be carb legal. lol.

[Gumballf355]

Wow, 750WHP would be good for an easy 200mph. You should really think about building a landspeed car for Bonneville Luke... I think you'd really enjoy that.

[blu808]

I would love to do silver state classic, or land speed record, but i dont have any money. lol

[tknbkthrsdy4anfg]

Hey luke what do u have connecting the two manifolds? a flex pipe or something.

[blu808]

No it is a mandrel bent piece of stainless tubing that goes from the dr side manifold to oval 2.5" tubing then connects to the pass side.

[txrxs]

Jesus, that's beast.

[Gjohnson7]

That is Hottt!!!! I would definately pick one of those up for next setup. NICE!!!!!!!!

[jussjepbrox]

LS1+turbo OVERKILL NICE

[DreamN]

LoL Luke, well I know the turbo would definitely not make it CARB legal, but I was wondering if the stock swap was a CARB legal one?

[blu808]

Thanks guys.

Gjohnson7: Does that mean you would be interested anytime soon?

[blu808]

LoL Luke, well I know the turbo would definitely not make it CARB legal, but I was wondering if the stock swap was a CARB legal one?


Yes it is completely possible to make a ls1/ls2/ls7 swap legal into a any s chassis or rx-7

The blue car was originally built to carb specs. But since I sold my white race car, I have decided to build the blue (sleeper) rx-7 into my track/ mountain (thanks rivards) car.

[DreamN]

ahh I see. are you guys only limited to swaps in RX-7s and S-Chassis cars?

Ever consider sanding down or removing the GTO lettering and replacing it with a Silvia emblem? lol I know it's just bullshit cosmetics, but it'd be a nice touch and a good laugh.

[florante rea]

how much for turbo setup? really sick setup.

[blu808]

ahh I see. are you guys only limited to swaps in RX-7s and S-Chassis cars?

Ever consider sanding down or removing the GTO lettering and replacing it with a Silvia emblem? lol I know it's just bullshit cosmetics, but it'd be a nice touch and a good laugh.

No I build everything from bikes, pro touring, drift cars, ls1 swaps, sr swaps, rb swaps, vq swaps, etc.

Check the fabrication thread for pics.


Anyways. I have a source on some carbon fuel rail covers that I can cut vinyl for if anyone wants.

I tend to keep the factory covers to showcase which motor it is since we are one of the pioneers of these swaps, and like to get people into the idea of a reliable, light, affordable engine.

[blu808]

how much for turbo setup? really sick setup.


Prices will be based on how many people are seriously interested. If you are let me know.

[blu808]

Interested people list:

rh4motorsports
slapwig
alexs14
fark barcinal
Jared
ttyner1212

[unicoladron]

that's awesome. The exhaust outlet looks cramped, it looks like you're gonna have to use really small piping..? or maybe hte picture is just deceiving.

[HaNgTyMe]

looks clean wouldnt mind havin on of those in my s14

[blu808]

Thanks.

There is actually room for a 3.5" down pipe.

[blu808]

Interested people list:

rh4motorsports
slapwig
alexs14
fark barcinal
Jared
ttyner1212
MMdb

[blu808]

rh4motorsports
slapwig
alexs14
fark barcinal
Jared
ttyner1212
Ken200
MMdb

[bigtiger1810]

when is the turbo setup going to be complete man?

[Z U L8R]

good stuff man =] i was just thinking of this swap on the way home. but i don't think my pockets could afford a third obsession lol. plus i wouldn't be able to compete in import showdown if i had a v8 (even though q45's come with v8's.....pfft)

i give u much props. don't know if you know of Charlie over at Mazcare here in GA but he's doing a lot of ls1 swaps in his fc's, my shops across the street from him if u ever heard of him. i know the rx7 world pretty much everyone knows everyone lol steve kahn asked me to diag a car he was tuning once muahhahah i felt special lol.

anyways, ur doing a mighty fine job sir, keep up the good work :D

Dave =]

[blu808]

Alex: Hit me up man. Almost ready for production.

Z= Thanks man. Yea it is hard to decide on which cars to build. lol. Good luck.


Ok now for an update on the turbo system.

I decided to make a cold air intake system for the turbo so it wont suck heat off of the radiator.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g204/turboskeet/wastegate012.jpg

It is a K&N cold air intake tube from a chevy truck system.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g204/turboskeet/wastegate013.jpg

Fits perfectly. Yes it took me about 3 hours to find an off the shelf tube that fit correctly. This will be included in the kit we will be offering.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g204/turboskeet/wastegate014.jpg

Then I finished the intercooler piping, and mounted the huge turbonetics blow off valve.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g204/turboskeet/wastegate021.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g204/turboskeet/wastegate022.jpg

Then onto the turbonetics racegate.

After a few hours of finding the best location. Here it is. All tacked up. T304 stainless.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g204/turboskeet/wastegate034.jpg

Looks like business.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g204/turboskeet/wastegate035.jpg

Easy adjustment.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g204/turboskeet/wastegate036.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g204/turboskeet/wastegate037.jpg

Clears the hood with 2+ inches to spare.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g204/turboskeet/wastegate039.jpg

This kit is shaping out to be a great fit for the car. I think it adds some personality as well.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g204/turboskeet/wastegate040.jpg

Thats it for now. I will post more pics later.

[300hp owen]

personality?
hahahha, yeah, like the HUGE PERSONALITIES we all know Dolly Parton for!

sick shizzle, that would be an insane setup for the street or track, wow. Ive driven a 450whp n/a LS1FC and if that spun 335s out back, then I cant imagine how the hell you'd even put that turbo to good use on the street without Rcomps and major suspension work... wow.

[Ninjabread]

Wow nice work Luke!

Meziere water pump?

[Viet-Tam]

Can you post a video of this. I want to hear what it sounds like.

[steve shadows]

Why did you go single on one bank?

And if this is for drifting why did you not utilise two small T3 turbos.

Same HP capacity better response easier to tune because both banks are seeing equal back pressure and VE.

Do you have a newer Motec system, are you planning to tune each individual cylinder in each bank?

[Slicedbreadno2]

How much would it be for just a basic engine, without any forced induction. Since my 240sx is not running at the moment.

[tknbkthrsdy4anfg]

Luke thats fucking RAD! It looks like ceramic coating or heat shielding would be a good idea, there is gonna be a lot of plastic melting heat under there.

[blu808]

Fuel rail cover will be trimmed. All hot parts will be double ceramic coated, and heat wrapped.

Steve. Both manifolds feed the turbo. There is no lag with this turbo on a completely stock ls1. It is similar to a buick grand national with a cross over pipe feeding the other manifold. We did not go twin because with the ls1 we can easily make power with just 1 turbo. This will also make the kit much more affordable.

Thanks.

[Slidin240Wayz]

How and where does the manifold crossover?

[DreamN]

I've viewed this thread at least 5 times in the last 2 day just looking at this setup and the FC's setup. I wish I had the funds to have Luke and his crew Frankenstein an LS1 into my Town Car with a twin turbo setup :p

[blu808]

Dreamn: thanks bro. Hit me up if you are interested.


Sliden: It will cross over under the bell housing.

[jrocslider]

i would maybe be interested in an S13 setup. idk if you have checked but what are the fitment differences for the S14 kit into the S13.

[Luvs2slide]

Good stuff here...I let some guys know in my crew that have somne LS1 S14's. They will probably be interested in this kit...

[azndoc]

WOw looks really clean and nice.

Kinda makes me want to go LS1 now.

If only I had the money though.

Awesome work.

[Gumballf355]

Sweet kit luke.... super sweet.

[steve shadows]

ok yeah F my question :aw:

[gotta240]

Are you making mount kits yet to install the ls1 into an s14(no FI, just mounts and everything required to drop the ls1)?

If so, pm me prices please.

[blu808]

Thanks everyone.

Steve: I thought I answered your question above?

Anyways.

gotta240: No we are teamed up with hinson for their mounts. Check out www.hinsonsupercars.com

[LS240]

Any idea on pricing yet? Also, will it fit an S13?

Kit's looking good!

[blu808]

will fit the s13, S14, FC, and maybe others.

Pricing will come soon.

[bbejj123]

so is this for an s13 or s14... i saw the title but i also see the pop up projectors...or is this a s14.3?

*edit* sorry i didnt see that there was two pages and didnt read the 2nd page forget the question...haha free bump!

[Kelly.]

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g204/turboskeet/turboproject007.jpg

what upper radiator hose is that??

looks good,
i wil be doing a single 76mm or twin 60s once my tranny is rebuilt this winter (drag car)

[Silverbullet]

my god those are crammed engine bays!

lovely monster.

[dmragecm]

You're a sick fuck and I love it! Whats your suspension setup going to be like?

[s13 @ fullboost]

Very clean and respectable set up you have maid there I like it =] +1

[blu808]

Thanks everyone.

That radiator hose is part of the hinson kit.

Sorry I have been lagging on the turbo kit. It was out in Alabama at hinson supercars being replicated. I will get some pics of the completed kit on a 240 soon.

Here are some pics of the completed kit on the fc. It made 488 wheel tq and 476 wheel hp at only 9 psi on pump gas. On a completely stock ls1. Only upgrades were 60 # injectors, and tuning.

Here is the completed kit on the fc. Looks the same on the 240s.

http://a896.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/23/l_02330ad1e8d4df4bc85d196b23e49497.jpg

http://a647.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/78/l_3bcbe621531b15d797abf4df73fb963e.jpg

true cold air intake.

http://a693.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/34/l_59d013631689abedf77a8630c326932c.jpg

The money shots.

http://a850.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/79/l_a40965782e5d509ca406e2b6f74a48f1.jpg

http://a547.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/67/l_fbe4eb128d8efd5d76a42b327c07c802.jpg

http://a947.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/78/l_1c020416667e82d64d23b70f5ffbcfb2.jpg

http://a5.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/85/l_8e2a873fd94090045ec5731bb504d5fc.jpg

[rightcoastimports]

we need video!! now!

[Quail]

we need video!! now!

Cosigned!

Any chance of vids soon?

[ost911]

Thanks everyone.

That radiator hose is part of the hinson kit.

Sorry I have been lagging on the turbo kit. It was out in Alabama at hinson supercars being replicated. I will get some pics of the completed kit on a 240 soon.

Here are some pics of the completed kit on the fc. It made 488 wheel tq and 476 wheel hp at only 9 psi on pump gas. On a completely stock ls1. Only upgrades were 60 # injectors, and tuning.

Here is the completed kit on the fc. Looks the same on the 240s.

http://a896.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/23/l_02330ad1e8d4df4bc85d196b23e49497.jpg

http://a647.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/78/l_3bcbe621531b15d797abf4df73fb963e.jpg

true cold air intake.

http://a693.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/34/l_59d013631689abedf77a8630c326932c.jpg

The money shots.

http://a850.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/79/l_a40965782e5d509ca406e2b6f74a48f1.jpg

http://a547.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/67/l_fbe4eb128d8efd5d76a42b327c07c802.jpg

http://a947.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/78/l_1c020416667e82d64d23b70f5ffbcfb2.jpg

http://a5.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/85/l_8e2a873fd94090045ec5731bb504d5fc.jpg


car is sex! nice kit btw

[Landers]

I want an FC!!!! I wish i was baller enough for that setup

[Z33dori]

dam that is once gangsta FC...

pretty nice numbers for a 9psi tune... perfecto for el dorifto

[sub9lulu]

total fawking hawtness



on the FC

correct me if i m wrong, from the pics it looks like it will fit BOTH a/c and power steering ?

and I assume it fits the granny kit perfect as well since that sits the engine 1/2 inch towards the firewall

i *might* be interested in the FC kit depend on price

[blueshark123]

hey luke do u sell lsx motor mount kits for s14s if so pm me on pricing

[95KA-Turbo]

No, they use Henson's mounting kits.

[Kelly.]

i was trying to avoid buying the hinson radiator kit.

the turbo kit looks good, cant wait to see final numbers :)

[Gavster]

Very clean! Great job!!

[carnagexxxx]

Wouldn't it be great to have some geezer in a Z06 pull up next to you while riding in this thing? He'd soil his armor.

Keep up the good work!

[Kelly.]

Wouldn't it be great to have some geezer in a Z06 pull up next to you while riding in this thing? He'd soil his armor.

Keep up the good work!

i lined up against a c6 z06 at the track,
he was on street tires and not a very good driver, but i beat him down the track.
i wish i had it on video :)

Edit: i have a 408 cu in LSx in my 96 240 :)

[Magical Trevor]

Any updates? I've been an LS1 guy forever, and just recently switched over to the S chassis. I would LOVE to do a turbo LSX in mine.

[redline racer510]

seen the turbokit in jason's white 240sx man that thing is a beast, wow luke didnt know your turbo manifold was going into production I thought it was just a custom piece just for that car??

[s14unimog]

I'm still waiting to see the cross over pipe. Turbonetics makes the single kit for the 350Z, its got the same cross over pipe design as you described; if anyone is curious for comparison.

Very impressed with the fab work good job!!!!

are you going to need a turbo blanket for the coilpack cover?

[Fam0uZ]

that thing is friking siiicckkk niceee i lyk it! =P +1

[TTrx7Pete]

Does the car lose any drivability? Handle well still or has it just become a straight drag car? I enjoy doing road courses, so I'm just curious...

[IntensePower]

CHEE CHEES RICE... that is a beautiful setup and will be one hell of a beast no doubt. Good Gawd sir, it takes quite a bit to impress me and impress you did. Bump for originality and EXCESS POWER!!!!!:bowdown:

[blu808]

Thanks guys.

Thanks Intense power that means alot coming from you guys.

[turbocrazy07]

omg that is super sexy. i wish you had audio or video! sick!!

[nismo-joe]

what will the kit include? ball park price?:wan: very interested.

[redline racer510]

Yea this $h!t rocks post a vid asap jason

[g-mo]

Any updates on this kit?

[jamben]

your a sick man

[SidewayZ-s14]

This is pure ownage.
I honestly love what you're doing!


Keep up the good work!
:]

[Devius]

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a149/8790/icame.jpg


nuff said

[GSXRJJordan]

Haha, Luke, busting nuts all over the world. I saw this kit in person, it's baller. Turbo setups for the LSx series motors in cramped bays are tricky (that's the biggest reason why centrifugal superchargers are so popular), and Luke really pulled it off.

He's one of the original guys behind Hinson's LSx kits, and has amazing fab skills, so this is no suprise.

Come out with the final pricing Luke!11!one!!1

[fouz]

So, any updates?

[dato]

:lockd::bash::bash::bash:

[blu808]

I have not had time to pull my car apart to remove the manifold and make a jig. I will be doing so in the fall. The car needs to remain running to finish the rest of the season.

So far the car is making 706 rwp (thats with the tires spinning on the dyno) has 23 events on the setup, including grip driving. The system has not had any issues. The car remains drivable, and response is great. Here are some links.

ASB
YouTube - Blu808 at All Star Bash 2009 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CI4AGxN4DZM)

Dyno
YouTube - VID 00006 20090701 1241 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpxq-vgOHiI)

compilation
Blu808 - Luke Lonberger on Vimeo (http://www.vimeo.com/8505307)

http://www.abmotorsports.com/wp-content/gallery/mustachedrift09/mustache029.jpg

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs085.snc1/5039_95539269102_553679102_2087932_6416805_n.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a126/345ikadizzle/thunderdrift/IMG_4762.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a126/345ikadizzle/thunderdrift/IMG_4819.jpg

[zaquanh]

what wheels are those in the last pic

[blu808]

ame circlar rs

18x10 +6 and 17x9 +12?

[Couped_up'd]

Just when the ls-1 was not good enough. lol

[fouz]

I tried to pm you but your box is full. I spent a good bit of time searching for info yesterday and seen just about everything you posted on it but still have some questions if you dont mind answering.

1: what is the stock manifold on the driver side?
2: what size is the cross over and DP? IIRC you said 3.5" on the DP?
3: about how much for the pass side manifold when it comes available?

Thx.

[GSXRJJordan]

I tried to pm you but your box is full. I spent a good bit of time searching for info yesterday and seen just about everything you posted on it but still have some questions if you dont mind answering.

1: what is the stock manifold on the driver side?
2: what size is the cross over and DP? IIRC you said 3.5" on the DP?
3: about how much for the pass side manifold when it comes available?

Thx.

Luke is in Buttonwillow for the Redline Time Attack this weekend with Conrad Grunewald's Camaro, hopefully he won't mind me answering these questions to the best of my knowledge.

1) D/S manifold starts small and ends at ~2.5". Each runner's diameter is tuned and the overall diameter is tuned (tuned meaning purposefully chosen).
2) Crossover pipe is 2.5", obviously 2.5" diameter on a 4cyl bank is not a horsepower-limiting factor, he's making very close to 1000hp at the crank. Downpipe has room for 3.5" and I believe that's what he's using.
3) Last we talked about pricing he was interested in selling them as complete kits, but I'm sure once he makes a few manifold he would sell one to you.

Luke pop in here and correct me if I'm wrong on any point.

[TougeLabs]

Count me in Luke, I was just about to start fabbing up some manifolds last week but...as always you nailed it. total for just the manifolds and down pipe ?

[Toddy]

Interested in this. Would like to see a price

[Tantwoforty]

my question about this is, since you only using one side on the engines exhaust to spool the turbo, wouldn't it create more back pressure on one bank?

wouldn't twin turbo be a better option?

i mean i see its running great, but im still curious

[GSXRJJordan]

my question about this is, since you only using one side on the engines exhaust to spool the turbo, wouldn't it create more back pressure on one bank?

wouldn't twin turbo be a better option?

i mean i see its running great, but im still curious

The driver's side loops around under the transmission, like a Grand National (GM's very successful V6 turbo setup). Both banks feed to the turbo, and the runner lengths and diameters are tuned as well as can be, from what Luke's explained to me.

[Initial_R90]

did you guys ever make manifolds for this ?

[vas570sx]

luke.

i love you.

that is all.

[GSXRJJordan]

did you guys ever make manifolds for this ?

I don't think Luke ever did a production run, but he still has the manifolds and could probably copy them...

... if anyone could afford it.

[volcomprodigy02]

price for kit to fit a s13?

[turbociv910]

i know its an old thread, but do you think he realized that the waste gate was bolted on backwards?

[rovi-dovi]

...the price never came... it never came

[chernandez240]

is this real?

[redline racer510]

Luke, I see your getting a little bored in that shop of yours.