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RiversideS13
01-24-2008, 04:25 PM
please read it for your own benefit
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/about/leg/leginfo.htm

In case you haven't seen them, here are the new California vehicle laws
for 2008:

(LOS ANGELES, Dec. 27, 2007) - California will usher in a host of new
laws in 2008 related to traffic safety, driver behavior and vehicle
fuels, according to the Automobile Club of Southern California.
Among the laws taking effect on Jan.1 is one that actually was signed
into law in 2006. Senate Bill 1542 provides drivers of cars sold or
leased after Jan. 1 with a convenient and safe system to obtain a
replacement car key if their key is lost, stolen or damaged. The Auto
Club sponsored the legislation to help ensure that motorists can replace
keys quickly through a licensed, bonded, registered locksmith instead of
being forced to wait hours or even days for the manufacturer or a dealer
to make a replacement.

Two other important traffic safety laws will not take effect until July
1. SB 33 prohibits teens from using cell phones or any other "mobile
service device" while driving; and SB 1613 prohibits all other adult
motorists from using a cell phone while driving unless they use a
hands-free speaking and listening system.

Another new law that will take effect July 1 is AB 118, which increases
the "smog abatement fee" for newer vehicles from $12 to $20, and the
vehicle registration fee for all automobiles from $31 to $34. The new
fee will be used to fund research for alternative fuels, alternative
fuel infrastructure projects, and air quality improvement. The Auto Club
opposed the law because the fee increases also will fund a variety of
programs that have nothing to do with automobile use, ownership or
operation.

"The Auto Club considers the goals of the law to be laudable, but we
question whether car owners should be required to pay for projects that
benefit industry and business," said Alice Bisno, the Auto Club's vice
president for public affairs. "We also question whether it's fair for
car owners to have to pay for the cleanup of diesel trucks, farm
equipment, and lawn mowers."

Motorist-related laws taking effect on Jan. 1 include:

* Key Codes. SB 1542 gives motorists a convenient and secure
option for getting replacement keys when theirs have been lost, stolen,
or damaged. Automakers must provide, at any time, the key codes
necessary for a licensed and registered locksmith to make a replacement
key for vehicles sold or leased in California on or after January 1,
2008. Exceptions include automakers that sell fewer than 2,500 vehicles
annually, and manufacturers that make their own keys-i.e. BMW and
Mercedes-Benz- who have until 2013 to comply with the law provided that,
in the interim, they send a replacement key by overnight mail.

* License Plates. Drivers will have a harder time evading "red
light" cameras and similar devices. AB 801 makes it illegal to sell or
use a product that obstructs or impairs the recognition of a license
plate by an electronic device operated by police or toll authority. The
fine for using a product to obscure a license plate is approximately
$146, and the fine for selling such a product is approximately $900.

* School Zones. In an effort to make school zones safer for
children, AB 321 will now allow local jurisdictions to adopt an
ordinance establishing a speed limit of 15 miles per hour in a school
zone. The 15-mph speed limit must be posted and applies up to 500 feet
from the school when children are present or arriving at or leaving the
school, either during school hours or during the noon recess. The 15-mph
limit will also apply when the school grounds are being used by children
and are not separated from the street by a fence, gate, or other
physical barrier. A 25-mph limit will apply at a distance of 500-1,000
feet from the school.

* Street Racing. In a further crackdown on dangerous and illegal
street races, SB 67 reauthorizes a law that lapsed in 2006. It allows
police to impound a vehicle for 30 days when a person is arrested for
street racing, exhibition of speed, or reckless driving. Registered
owners of vehicles impounded under this law can claim their vehicles if
the owners were neither the driver nor passenger at the time of the
violation and were unaware that the vehicle was being used to violate
one of the prohibitions.

* Smoking in Vehicles. SB 7 is intended to prevent children riding
in vehicles from being subjected to the dangers of second-hand smoke.
The law makes it an infraction, punishable by a fine of up to $100, to
smoke a cigarette, a cigar, or a pipe in a vehicle, whether in motion or
not, in which there is a minor. This measure is a "secondary
enforcement" law. A law enforcement officer can only cite a motorist for
a violation of this measure in connection with a stop for a suspected
violation of another driving offense.

* Traffic School. AB 645 prohibits a court from allowing a driver
who commits a two-point violation from attending traffic school.
Two-point violations include drunk driving, hit-and-run, speed contests,
evading an officer, and vehicular manslaughter. In 2004, there were 773
instances in which two-point violators had their driving records
expunged by attending traffic school, allowing them to maintain their
"good driver" insurance discount and elude DMV negligent-driver
oversight.

* Gasoline Dispensing. Concerns about the high cost of gasoline
have prompted scrutiny into whether gasoline loses fuel efficiency when
it is stored, delivered or dispensed at a higher temperature than 60
degrees Fahrenheit. AB 868 requires the state to conduct a study on the
effects of temperature on fuel deliveries and to report the study
findings. Fuel expands when it is delivered, stored, or dispensed at
temperatures higher than the government standard of 60 degrees. This
means that, depending on the temperature, motorists might not get the
amount and quality of fuel they paid for. When the study is complete,
recommendations will be made to address its findings.
Motorist laws that will not take effect until July 1 include:

* Cell Phones and Driving. SB 1613 (adopted in 2006) prohibits the
use of handheld cellular telephones while driving. Starting July 1,
2008, an adult driver may use a cell phone only if it has a hands-free
listening and speaking system. Drivers ticketed for a violation will be
subject to a fine of at least $70 (base fine plus penalties) for a first
offense and at least $175 (base fine plus penalties) for subsequent
offenses. Push-to-talk systems (such as those made by Nextel) are exempt
from the hands-free requirement until July 1, 2011.

* Teen Drivers and Cell Phones. In an effort to improve the safety
of some of the most crash-prone drivers - teenagers - a new law will not
allow minors to phone or text message friends from the road. SB 33
prohibits drivers under age 18 from using any cell phone or other
"mobile-service device" while driving, even if it is equipped with a
hands-free device.

The term "mobile-service device" includes, but isn't limited to, a
broadband personal-communication device, specialized mobile radio
device, handheld device or laptop computer with mobile-data access,
pager, and two-way messaging device. Teen drivers ticketed for a
violation will be subject to a fine of at least $70 (base fine plus
penalties) for a first offense and at least $175 (base fine plus
penalties) for subsequent offenses. Unlike the ban on handheld cell

k's_silvia2.0
01-24-2008, 04:30 PM
I only agree with this one:


* Teen Drivers and Cell Phones. In an effort to improve the safety
of some of the most crash-prone drivers - teenagers - a new law will not
allow minors to phone or text message friends from the road. SB 33
prohibits drivers under age 18 from using any cell phone or other
"mobile-service device" while driving, even if it is equipped with a
hands-free device.

steve shadows
01-24-2008, 04:51 PM
fuck this state

Street Racing. In a further crackdown on dangerous and illegal
street races, SB 67 reauthorizes a law that lapsed in 2006. It allows
police to impound a vehicle for 30 days when a person is arrested for
street racing, exhibition of speed, or reckless driving. Registered
owners of vehicles impounded under this law can claim their vehicles if
the owners were neither the driver nor passenger at the time of the
violation and were unaware that the vehicle was being used to violate
one of the prohibitions.

what the fuck? how do you prove that in court?

drunk idiot law makers fucking ruined

HWYKING
01-24-2008, 04:58 PM
and this one

* Traffic School. AB 645 prohibits a court from allowing a driver
who commits a two-point violation from attending traffic school.
Two-point violations include drunk driving, hit-and-run, speed contests,
evading an officer, and vehicular manslaughter. In 2004, there were 773
instances in which two-point violators had their driving records
expunged by attending traffic school, allowing them to maintain their
"good driver" insurance discount and elude DMV negligent-driver
oversight.

i was hit head on by a drunk driver hit & run and the bastard got away clean. i got no remorse for drunk drivers.

sk33ny
01-24-2008, 05:14 PM
Thanks for sharing. +1

MrChow
01-24-2008, 05:34 PM
YaY! Off the cell phone when driving!!! Sorry almost everyday I drive around I'll see some idiot on the cell phone and not watching out.

* Cell Phones and Driving. SB 1613 (adopted in 2006) prohibits the
use of handheld cellular telephones while driving. Starting July 1,
2008, an adult driver may use a cell phone only if it has a hands-free
listening and speaking system. Drivers ticketed for a violation will be
subject to a fine of at least $70 (base fine plus penalties) for a first
offense and at least $175 (base fine plus penalties) for subsequent
offenses. Push-to-talk systems (such as those made by Nextel) are exempt
from the hands-free requirement until July 1, 2011.

* Teen Drivers and Cell Phones. In an effort to improve the safety
of some of the most crash-prone drivers - teenagers - a new law will not
allow minors to phone or text message friends from the road. SB 33
prohibits drivers under age 18 from using any cell phone or other
"mobile-service device" while driving, even if it is equipped with a
hands-free device.

sk33ny
01-24-2008, 05:38 PM
http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/images/smilies/yeahthat.gif I see so many people on there phones not even paying attention to what there doing.

Addicted2Kouki
01-24-2008, 06:00 PM
I'm all for the cell phone law.

S13Boosts
01-24-2008, 06:02 PM
been heard about this, they just never inforced it,now they are!

Suk02Si
01-24-2008, 06:38 PM
Pretty cool, thanks

Shmex
01-24-2008, 07:54 PM
Yeah tell me about it. I just recently got hit by a lady on her cell phone going 35. I was in my little Geo Metro, and bam i got hit so hard the buttons on my clutser console popped off, and got pushed a whole car length into a bmw...

Even though that sucked, i did get paid a little over 950, witch that check ended up buying my 240 i just copped for 900 bux...

still though. I yell at people to get off there cellphones when im driving...theyre almost as bad as drunk drivers...theyre definately not concentrated on the road and what theyre doing.

Cantcha phone call wait????

Temple240
01-24-2008, 07:58 PM
* Smoking in Vehicles. SB 7 is intended to prevent children riding
in vehicles from being subjected to the dangers of second-hand smoke.
The law makes it an infraction, punishable by a fine of up to $100, to
smoke a cigarette, a cigar, or a pipe in a vehicle, whether in motion or
not, in which there is a minor. This measure is a "secondary
enforcement" law. A law enforcement officer can only cite a motorist for
a violation of this measure in connection with a stop for a suspected
violation of another driving offense.

I don't smoke and I'm not even on the west coast but it is real fucked up when you can't smoke in your own car.

projekt_s13
01-24-2008, 08:20 PM
fuck this state

Street Racing. In a further crackdown on dangerous and illegal
street races, SB 67 reauthorizes a law that lapsed in 2006. It allows
police to impound a vehicle for 30 days when a person is arrested for
street racing, exhibition of speed, or reckless driving. Registered
owners of vehicles impounded under this law can claim their vehicles if
the owners were neither the driver nor passenger at the time of the
violation and were unaware that the vehicle was being used to violate
one of the prohibitions.

what the fuck? how do you prove that in court?

drunk idiot law makers fucking ruined



I think that is for parents that let their son drive their car and the son ends up taking it to a street race. Then the parent can claim the vehicle and take it out of the impound.

Xandy Boosts
01-24-2008, 09:59 PM
loving the cell phone law. Who the hell do these people need to be talkin to while driving. We have ipods now that keep us from having to listen to crappio (crappy radio)

I almost got hit yesterday by a cell phone PARKER. Mofo was parked and as I passed him, he decided to come out into my lane. I had to swerve and my car slid a little (FWD accord) luckily there was no car in the other lane. I hate cell phone drivers with a passion.

hunter8411
01-24-2008, 10:25 PM
All for the cell phone law. Not that hard to get a hands free device, I use one everday while working.

azndoc
01-24-2008, 10:32 PM
Yeah people who drive while on their cells suck ass.

Major ass.

I thought the law was in effect already. Hmmmm....

This friend of a friend of mine got a ticket for that down in Irvine area. I guess OC is a lot quicker than LA.

gripstr
01-24-2008, 11:02 PM
Not only are we gonna pay $400 for swapped motors, but the those two points are gonne be stuck with us for the rest of our lives...

Damn insurance companies, i know they are behind this.

debby
01-25-2008, 12:30 AM
i saw lots of cops talking in their cell when driving.........WTF

DALAZ_68
01-25-2008, 12:39 AM
the cell phone laws i agree wiht 100%

but the smoking one

* Smoking in Vehicles. SB 7 is intended to prevent children riding
in vehicles from being subjected to the dangers of second-hand smoke.
The law makes it an infraction, punishable by a fine of up to $100, to
smoke a cigarette, a cigar, or a pipe in a vehicle, whether in motion or
not, in which there is a minor. This measure is a "secondary
enforcement" law. A law enforcement officer can only cite a motorist for
a violation of this measure in connection with a stop for a suspected
violation of another driving offense.

so i cant smoke a cig in my own car...then WTF am i gonna do wiht the ash tray...ohh wait **takes ash tray off** CUP HOLDER!!!...but still :loco:

widegts
01-25-2008, 12:46 AM
wow, makes me 2nd think driving my future company car on the streets hehehe, man i live in west covina, and shop is in walnut... -=o(

i am not upset with it though... we have track days, and other things, not much but still there ...

drift freaq
01-25-2008, 12:47 AM
Not only are we gonna pay $400 for swapped motors, but the those two points are gonne be stuck with us for the rest of our lives...

Damn insurance companies, i know they are behind this.

you don't know much about the traffic laws and point systems do you? The points can only stay on your record for 3 years after that they drop. What they are basically saying is if you get a two point violation you cannot take traffic school to get out of it being on your record for the next 3 years. After 3 years though it comes off.

P.S. you want violate the law be prepared to face consequences if you get caught. Thats the way it is. If you don't got the stomach for it don't do it.

r6_240sx
01-25-2008, 01:03 AM
I think u guys are misreading the cigarette smoking. I believe it states u can't smoke when there is a minor in the car.

I think that's what it says. I hate the way laws are worded...

revat619
01-25-2008, 01:08 AM
I'm all for the cell phone thing. i do see cops on the phone A LOT around where i work though. Well...it is El Cajon PD and they're considered BY OTHER COPS, to be the most worthless cops in all of SD. Yeah, i doubt anybody is gonna get a cell phone ticket in east county....:rolleyes:

DALAZ_68
01-25-2008, 01:17 AM
I think u guys are misreading the cigarette smoking. I believe it states u can't smoke when there is a minor in the car.

I think that's what it says. I hate the way laws are worded...
sweet i can smoke...i nver have minors in my car anywho lol

r6_240sx
01-25-2008, 01:24 AM
Either way u have to get pulled over for something else first. They can't just go off ticketing everyone they see smoking a cigarette.

Although I wouldn't doubt in the next couple years they'll find ways to make this more strict.

DALAZ_68
01-25-2008, 01:46 AM
my cup holder idea rules though lol :rawk::boink:

kikit-sideways
01-27-2008, 06:51 PM
i am with the cell phone idea, i am always driving for my work, everyday there is atleast one incident where i am clipped or sideswiped by a person on the cell phone, feel like getting out and smashing thier phones, but the impound thing, i think that is baloney,

blackrms13
01-27-2008, 07:12 PM
the cellphone one should have been put into effect long time ago...
and they should also ban women putting on make up while driving!!

Rob's S14
02-01-2008, 01:00 AM
yeah cell phone law is good. not sure how you would use a laptop though as the law says...posting on zilvia while driving. sounds crazy.

+1 for good info

RiversideS13
02-01-2008, 11:21 PM
can we make this thread sticky for a while?

HyperTek
02-02-2008, 10:14 AM
+1 For the cell phone thing

So many times i been called at work and people are reading me their credit card numbers while driving..

horrible people...

If you call me while im driving, i usually answer and say im driving ill call you later. esp if its a potential job interview calling me, its not hard to let them know your driving lol

Skullavera
02-02-2008, 04:02 PM
Sometimes when I see someone on their cell phone while driving and they're not paying attention to the road (you can tell just by looking at them) I lock up my brakes and scare the shit out of them. That usually helps them pay attention to their driving haha.... Of course I do this only when it is safe to do so but from my arsenal of cell phone talking driver tactics, this is the most effective lol.