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S14lover
10-12-2002, 09:15 AM
Im lookin at a Nsport Turbo Kit and/or a Sr20 swap but i dont knwo what is more cost effective there is alot of shit you gotta do for both in the long run i just wanted to know how they compared and the like

jonathanvolk
10-12-2002, 09:27 AM
heres my opinion on the situation....if you dont have a ton of miles on the ka i would probably just turbocharge that. If your engine has alot of miles on it your probably better off installing an sr b/c it will most likely be in better shape for the type of use its going to see. btw, the sr swap will be more expensive in most cases.

just my .02

S14lover
10-12-2002, 09:35 AM
Im pushing very close to 70k ..is that "alot" or is that workable?

Kreator
10-12-2002, 09:45 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (S14lover @ Oct. 12 2002,10:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Im pushing very close to 70k ..is that "alot" or is that workable?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
That's what i'm gonna have when i'm gonna be putting my turbo on. In other words, 70K is fine for ka-t.

jonathanvolk
10-12-2002, 10:09 AM
70k is fine, i was thinking more along the lines of 110k+...which is still doable but i wouldnt trust it in the long run.

S14lover
10-12-2002, 10:18 AM
Besides the turbo kit what else do i need to make this work ..also i heard i can only boost at 8psi &nbsp;and anything above that engine detonation is this true?...parts wise do i need new pistons , rods, etc?

gabossie
10-12-2002, 06:43 PM
You only need to build up the bottom end with new pistons, rods, etc.. if you want to push more boost than 7 or 8psi. If you have the money, do it. If not, do it at a later date <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/alien.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':alien:'>

Jeff240sx
10-13-2002, 06:24 PM
You need fuel for more than 4 psi. &nbsp;And s14 engines can handle 10psi on stock internals with proper tuning. &nbsp;Also, I turbo'd my car at 83K, and have put 6k on it so far...
-Jeff

ca18guy
10-13-2002, 06:27 PM
Mileage Smileage, get a compression test before you decide.

Jeff240sx
10-14-2002, 09:38 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ca18guy @ Oct. 13 2002,9:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Mileage Smileage, get a compression test before you decide.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Yeah. &nbsp;I agree with CA18guy here. &nbsp;I did a compression test before I bought my turbo, because if the test results sucked, I would have a SR now. &nbsp;But my compression was 180-180-181-180. &nbsp;Hence KA-T. &nbsp;If your compression results are iffy, like 160's, have a leakdown test done. &nbsp;That will give definative results on your engine's life.
But anyway... Have fun. &nbsp;And if you go turbo and need help... IM or email or PM me.
-Jeff

Steeles
10-14-2002, 10:49 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Jeff240sx @ Oct. 13 2002,7:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You need fuel for more than 4 psi. And s14 engines can handle 10psi on stock internals with proper tuning. Also, I turbo'd my car at 83K, and have put 6k on it so far...
-Jeff</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
actually most of the "bolt on" turbo kits out there will have you running at 7psi. &nbsp;after THAT is when you need fuel. &nbsp;4psi maybe if your not running an intercooler. &nbsp;but yeah its all about the shape of your KA, &nbsp;if its not giving you any problems now go for the KAT. &nbsp;stock internals have held up to 350RWHP so no need to rebuild it yet. &nbsp;but its all in your tuning at that point. &nbsp;know what your doing <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> make sure you have plenty of fuel. &nbsp;little stupid things can blow a 150hp engine

Jeff240sx
10-14-2002, 11:14 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Steeles @ Oct. 14 2002,1:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">actually most of the "bolt on" turbo kits out there will have you running at 7psi. after THAT is when you need fuel. 4psi maybe if your not running an intercooler. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I really HATE getting corrected. &nbsp;So don't do it.
First off, Intercoolers don't deal with the ammount of fuel you need. &nbsp;Horsepower and RPM determines the ammount of fuel you need. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/withstupid.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':withstupid:'>
Second, the "bolt on" turbo kits out there give you a rising rate fuel pressure regulator. &nbsp;More pressure, more fuel. &nbsp;270cc/min injectors will top out at 6000rpm at 4psi. &nbsp;When you increase the pressure, you increase the flow rate, and can get more fuel, so you can go to 7-8psi.
And intercoolers are used to cool the air, because heat is created during the compression, and a 10*C temp drop in the intake air gives about 1% more power. &nbsp;
Anyway... I'm digressing.
-Jeff

uuninja
10-14-2002, 12:43 PM
Actually fuel is used to cool combustion/prevent detonation as well. Many nonintercooled turbo systems do run richer or on higher octane to compensate. But anyway.

I am still very curious about this myth that running over 10lbs psi on a stock bottom end is not possible. I would direct you to a mr. TY who recently posted his dyno run at 1.3 bar ~18psi on a t3/t4 with a stock bottomed KA making ~330 HP. This with a damaged compressor and running lower than a 10.0 AF on the top end for safety.

10 pounds is not the limit 15 pounds is not the limit. I don't know that we have hit the HP potential of the stock KA with out detonation. Maybe a stock KA will make 400whp on a dyno queen run if the ring lands hold up.

-Matt- (whos is still stoked that his KA-T ran hard all weekend VIR and did not blow

S14lover
10-14-2002, 12:45 PM
Hey jeff just added you to my AIM list hope you dont mind I will be using your for your brain....... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'> &nbsp;thanks for the info though man it really helped out ill keep you updated on when i finally get the loot to time of purchase

Steeles
10-14-2002, 02:06 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Jeff240sx @ Oct. 14 2002,12:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Steeles @ Oct. 14 2002,1:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">actually most of the "bolt on" turbo kits out there will have you running at 7psi. after THAT is when you need fuel. 4psi maybe if your not running an intercooler. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I really HATE getting corrected. So don't do it.
First off, Intercoolers don't deal with the ammount of fuel you need. Horsepower and RPM determines the ammount of fuel you need. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/withstupid.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':withstupid:'>
Second, the "bolt on" turbo kits out there give you a rising rate fuel pressure regulator. More pressure, more fuel. 270cc/min injectors will top out at 6000rpm at 4psi. When you increase the pressure, you increase the flow rate, and can get more fuel, so you can go to 7-8psi.
And intercoolers are used to cool the air, because heat is created during the compression, and a 10*C temp drop in the intake air gives about 1% more power.
Anyway... I'm digressing.
-Jeff</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
well dont be wrong again &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

and I should made those more seperate. &nbsp;the no IC was not meant to tie in with the fuel statement. &nbsp;sorry for any confusion. &nbsp;do all the kits use RRFPRs? &nbsp;i thought Nsport came with a JWT ecu to compensate and the XS didnt have any fuel compensation... been too long since I looked at turbo kits. &nbsp;so I may be standing here corrected...

Me!

Jeff240sx
10-14-2002, 02:35 PM
UUNinja. &nbsp;T.Y. Yap. &nbsp;We have all heard of his tales of mega-power on a stock bottom KA. &nbsp;But keep in mind he has cams, and many other things that a stock engine won't have. &nbsp;Also, when he boosted to 1.3bar, he busted his engine. &nbsp;He says that his wristpin is knocking, and on FA, he said "Dont boost over 10psi!" &nbsp;Also, many people don't know that he is intending on "Destroying his engine in the name of science." &nbsp;A lot of people like their engines, and if they do, it shouldn't go over the 10psi mark. &nbsp;I would hate to say "It is okay to boost to 18psi," and have people with blown engines pissed at me. &nbsp;Also, he drives at 12psi, races at 15psi, and WENT to 18psi for a dyno pull. &nbsp;Not for a lap, or any longer. &nbsp;Finally, he bought his car new, and knows exactly what shape his engine was in. &nbsp;A lot of people don't know the details of their engine, how it was broken in, ect. &nbsp;So, knowing that, please don't think that I'm spreading a myth that people should not drive daily over 10psi on stock internals. &nbsp;They shouldn't, if they like their engine.

S14Lover- Cool.

Steeles- Goto Nsport.com, click on power stages. &nbsp;For $4k, they give you a Walbro pump and a RRFPR, 7:1 ratio. &nbsp;They USED to give a JWT ecu, but they stopped, cuz they save $520, and can charge the same ammount. &nbsp;XS Engineering uses a Vortec FMU (RRFPR). &nbsp;So they both use them.
-Jeff

Steeles
10-14-2002, 02:58 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Jeff240sx @ Oct. 14 2002,3:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Steeles- Goto Nsport.com, click on power stages. For $4k, they give you a Walbro pump and a RRFPR, 7:1 ratio. They USED to give a JWT ecu, but they stopped, cuz they save $520, and can charge the same ammount. XS Engineering uses a Vortec FMU (RRFPR). So they both use them.
-Jeff</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Like I said its ben awhile since I looked at any of them. &nbsp;and wasnt Nsport having trouble with JWT keeping up with the orders too? &nbsp;I dunno. &nbsp;anyway I've said my peace &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> &nbsp;im going home &nbsp; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/yin-yang.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':yingyang:'>

S14lover
10-14-2002, 04:30 PM
Hey Jeff my handle is abnmedic508 so dont freak out when you see it

Hey Steeles whadda you doin over here?!?!?!...they not treating you right over at 240s over ATL? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/satisfied.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':satisfied:'>

Steeles
10-15-2002, 06:34 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (S14lover @ Oct. 14 2002,5:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hey Jeff my handle is abnmedic508 so dont freak out when you see it

Hey Steeles whadda you doin over here?!?!?!...they not treating you right over at 240s over ATL? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/satisfied.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':satisfied:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
lol me I'm just bouncin around <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> &nbsp;we keep running people off the atl list. &nbsp;once the boards shut down Scream 504 and I got a little rambunctious on the list <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> &nbsp;you know how we do &nbsp;all good though its been quite on there so I figured I'd branch out. &nbsp;ya know share the madness and all &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'>

uuninja
10-15-2002, 07:05 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Jeff240sx @ Oct. 13 2002,4:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">UUNinja. T.Y. Yap. We have all heard of his tales of mega-power on a stock bottom KA. But keep in mind he has cams, and many other things that a stock engine won't have. Also, when he boosted to 1.3bar, he busted his engine. He says that his wristpin is knocking, and on FA, he said "Dont boost over 10psi!" Also, many people don't know that he is intending on "Destroying his engine in the name of science." A lot of people like their engines, and if they do, it shouldn't go over the 10psi mark. I would hate to say "It is okay to boost to 18psi," and have people with blown engines pissed at me. Also, he drives at 12psi, races at 15psi, and WENT to 18psi for a dyno pull. Not for a lap, or any longer. Finally, he bought his car new, and knows exactly what shape his engine was in. A lot of people don't know the details of their engine, how it was broken in, ect. So, knowing that, please don't think that I'm spreading a myth that people should not drive daily over 10psi on stock internals. They shouldn't, if they like their engine.

S14Lover- Cool.

Steeles- Goto Nsport.com, click on power stages. For $4k, they give you a Walbro pump and a RRFPR, 7:1 ratio. They USED to give a JWT ecu, but they stopped, cuz they save $520, and can charge the same ammount. XS Engineering uses a Vortec FMU (RRFPR). So they both use them.
-Jeff</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Yes I am aware of the details. However he had been running at 12 to 15 psi for better than a year at hot lap events in AZ in AZ heat. So 10 psi the limit? Don't think so.

I really doubt that the cams are responsible for his HP numbers. I think he did a 15 psi pull before the cams and made plenty of power.

As far as poping his motors in the name of science. Well I have long said that all I want out of the old KA is 300 rwhp. I am not going to build the motor. If I pop it getting there that is ok with me. Once I am there I am looking for a larger motor anyway. No point, in my opinion running a 4 cylinder ragged, KA or SR.

240racer
10-15-2002, 10:27 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well I have long said that all I want out of the old KA is 300 rwhp. I am not going to build the motor. If I pop it getting there that is ok with me. Once I am there I am looking for a larger motor anyway. No point, in my opinion running a 4 cylinder ragged, KA or SR.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Good call, I'm working on the toyota 2jz swap after I have a reliable KA+T with 300rwhp. &nbsp;I think it would be pretty crazy to have 900+hp 240, what about the rest of you?

turbo240sx
10-15-2002, 11:28 AM
a 2jz 240sx. that would be a wet dream. but alot of cutting and welding would be involved. anything is possible. on the sr or ka topic. im for ka. longer stroke, more torque. bigger dissplacement direct bolt in no splicing wires. and with forged pistons and good fuel supply you can get 400 hp. im going all ka. sr's arent my favorite

Jeff240sx
10-15-2002, 03:19 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (240racer @ Oct. 15 2002,1:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well I have long said that all I want out of the old KA is 300 rwhp. I am not going to build the motor. If I pop it getting there that is ok with me. Once I am there I am looking for a larger motor anyway. No point, in my opinion running a 4 cylinder ragged, KA or SR.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Good call, I'm working on the toyota 2jz swap after I have a reliable KA+T with 300rwhp. I think it would be pretty crazy to have 900+hp 240, what about the rest of you?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Both of you need to go Here (http://members.blackplanet.com/osofast/)

The 2JZ 240 has been done. &nbsp;I know that it says "Home of the only RB26DETT powered 240sx..." but if you click the links, it goes in-depth about his 2JZ. &nbsp;900hp at 9000rpm+. &nbsp;And nice pics of a beautiful 2JZ-GTE.
-Jeff

S14lover
10-15-2002, 05:41 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Steeles @ Oct. 15 2002,07:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (S14lover @ Oct. 14 2002,5:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hey Jeff my handle is abnmedic508 so dont freak out when you see it

Hey Steeles whadda you doin over here?!?!?!...they not treating you right over at 240s over ATL? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/satisfied.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':satisfied:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
lol me I'm just bouncin around <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
we keep running people off the atl list. &nbsp;once the boards shut down Scream 504 and I got a little rambunctious on the list <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> &nbsp;you know how we do &nbsp;all good though its been quite on there so I figured I'd branch out. &nbsp;ya know share the madness and all &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'>


cool ...where are they going and for what

Jeff those are some sick pics yo <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/notify.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':notify:'>

turbo240sx
10-15-2002, 05:46 PM
i met that guy who has a rb26 in his 240sx. hes cool. he told me about the 2jz in a 240 i thought about it. but it cost alot of $$$$$

obruT ES 41S 79&#39;
10-15-2002, 06:24 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Jeff240sx @ Oct. 14 2002,3:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">UUNinja. T.Y. Yap. We have all heard of his tales of mega-power on a stock bottom KA. But keep in mind he has cams, and many other things that a stock engine won't have. Also, when he boosted to 1.3bar, he busted his engine. He says that his wristpin is knocking, and on FA, he said "Dont boost over 10psi!" Also, many people don't know that he is intending on "Destroying his engine in the name of science." A lot of people like their engines, and if they do, it shouldn't go over the 10psi mark. I would hate to say "It is okay to boost to 18psi," and have people with blown engines pissed at me. Also, he drives at 12psi, races at 15psi, and WENT to 18psi for a dyno pull. Not for a lap, or any longer. Finally, he bought his car new, and knows exactly what shape his engine was in. A lot of people don't know the details of their engine, how it was broken in, ect. So, knowing that, please don't think that I'm spreading a myth that people should not drive daily over 10psi on stock internals. They shouldn't, if they like their engine.

S14Lover- Cool.

Steeles- Goto Nsport.com, click on power stages. For $4k, they give you a Walbro pump and a RRFPR, 7:1 ratio. They USED to give a JWT ecu, but they stopped, cuz they save $520, and can charge the same ammount. XS Engineering uses a Vortec FMU (RRFPR). So they both use them.
-Jeff</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Jeff, please, in the future, only use the first name. It's rude to mention full names on the net... So...

Now, couple of myths of yours that I have to put down...

What my motor has is a larger intake cam (Motorsport), and ignition system. Everything else is standard F-Max stage 2. Nothing fancy. So how can you say the my motor has extras??? What? Powdercoated valve cover... oh, that makes more power... Yeah right...

As for busting the engine, had you actually read the threads, the engine is not busted. The wrist pin knock is minor. It doesn't kill engines. Heck, I'm still running 1.0bar on the motor. The timing chain is louder than the wrist pin. FYI, I'm still driving around in my car with said motor. No issues there.

I didn't say don't go over 10psi.. I said, don't go over 1.0bar!!! Big difference... Read next time...

As for me intending on destroying my engine, that's a myth... You are making up assumptions on that. I do care about the motor, but I do know the risk associated with running high compression and high boost, and I've planned in advance to have a built replacement motor. It's called risk management. Not being stupid... So another wrong asumption by you.

As for saying the boost limit... Do you know who originally said the 10psi limit??? The same person that's now saying don't go over 1.0bar... That was about 1.5 years ago, when I was running 0.8bar with 257rwhp with stock cams, and no ignition system. At that time, I havent' gone into the realm of the 1.0bar boost level, so I told folks that were riding my coat tails, to stay under 0.8 bar. So, the 10psi limit was born. Now, since I've played plenty of times in the 1.0bar realm, I tell folks to not go over that, while I find a bigger flowing turbo and let me play in the 1.0+bar realm.

Also, how do you know what boost level I drive at? You are making more assumptions on stuff you don't know. I used to drive at the 0.8bar level 1.5 years ago. Since then, it's at 1.0bar. Yes, even right now. 1.0 bar.

As for the dyno pull, you werent' there. You are making more and more assumptions on what you don't know... I didn't do ONE pull at 1.3 bar. It was a series of pulls from 1.1 to 1.3bar. Heck, there was about 4 pulls that was in the 1.2 bar to 1.3 bar range. Two of those were heat soaked, back to back pulls. No bags of ice here... The only part that's dyno queen is the 98 octane, and the fact that I'm not ready to run 1.3 bar on the street yet. Not your typical dyno queen run. And if you want, I have about 10 witness to the dyno pulls. They can tell you how the run was done. That way you don't have to make more assumptions on stuff you don't know.

Yes, I did buy my car new... So did many folks, but how many do you know that actually took their brand spanking new car with ~980 miles on the odometer to an all day open track event??? I do, me... I can easily say 95% of new car owners don't even have the guts to do that. Can you say I babied the car???

Heck, @ 20k miles, I have a brand new transmission. Do I baby the car? I can also post up RallyX pictures of my car... Yes, on dirt road, going sideways, during a RallyX event... So, can you still say I baby my car??? Or how about running track events in the summer where the track temperature was about 130F!!! How's that for babying the car?

It's all about the risk management. All the stuff I do with the car has been all planned out. Stuff will break and wear out, and I already have stuff planned for those.

The possible damage is from the 240SX national convention track event, where I was testing out the Granetalli MAFS. IT unfortunately, ran the motor lean, and got it hot. There's even a post about that on FA, titled "I've officially damaged my motor"... Go search for it... It's there.

Knowing all these, you can safely say you are spreading a myth... You make too many assumptions.

My car is not for looking pretty or making hp number. It's a toy, that I paid good money for, and that I planned on getting the full monetary value/enjoyment out of. I've got a sports car, and I'm not afraid to use it as designed... The car is definetly not a poser. It has tons of rock chips/streaks on the hood to show from the highspeed freeway runs, to the road course battles.

So, in conclusion, you have no idea what you are talking about, so don't make assumptions on stuff you don't know. Otherwise, makes you a hyprocrate since you don't want to spread a myth, when in fact, you are...

uiuc240
10-15-2002, 06:28 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Jeff240sx @ Oct. 15 2002,4:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (240racer @ Oct. 15 2002,1:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well I have long said that all I want out of the old KA is 300 rwhp. I am not going to build the motor. If I pop it getting there that is ok with me. Once I am there I am looking for a larger motor anyway. No point, in my opinion running a 4 cylinder ragged, KA or SR.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Good call, I'm working on the toyota 2jz swap after I have a reliable KA+T with 300rwhp. I think it would be pretty crazy to have 900+hp 240, what about the rest of you?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Both of you need to go Here (http://members.blackplanet.com/osofast/)

The 2JZ 240 has been done. I know that it says "Home of the only RB26DETT powered 240sx..." but if you click the links, it goes in-depth about his 2JZ. 900hp at 9000rpm+. And nice pics of a beautiful 2JZ-GTE.
-Jeff</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Sure, that's cool and all...but I just can NOT imagine driving a car with 900 hp that weights 2600 lbs. &nbsp;Insanity.

Eric

Steeles
10-15-2002, 11:15 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (S14lover @ Oct. 15 2002,6:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">cool ...where are they going and for what</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
bah who knows they still keep intouch for the most part. &nbsp;just sandy manginas. &nbsp;so folks been on eggshells for a minute now. &nbsp;we're all still cool.

S14lover
10-16-2002, 01:21 PM
well as long as i have people to show off my car too im fine wit that

uuninja
10-16-2002, 01:25 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Jeff240sx @ Oct. 14 2002,5:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (240racer @ Oct. 15 2002,1:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well I have long said that all I want out of the old KA is 300 rwhp. I am not going to build the motor. If I pop it getting there that is ok with me. Once I am there I am looking for a larger motor anyway. No point, in my opinion running a 4 cylinder ragged, KA or SR.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Good call, I'm working on the toyota 2jz swap after I have a reliable KA+T with 300rwhp. I think it would be pretty crazy to have 900+hp 240, what about the rest of you?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Both of you need to go Here (http://members.blackplanet.com/osofast/)

The 2JZ 240 has been done. I know that it says "Home of the only RB26DETT powered 240sx..." but if you click the links, it goes in-depth about his 2JZ. 900hp at 9000rpm+. And nice pics of a beautiful 2JZ-GTE.
-Jeff</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Yeah that car is owned by a guy that occasionaly posts on FA. osofast240 is his SN IIRC. Looks liek a fast car. He mentioned that the swap at least as far a mounting the motor was not too bad. No crazy crossmember fabrication and such to mount it. I am kicking around the idea of a RB25. Though after this weekend up at vir I think 300hp will be a lot for me to handle on track for the time being. I don't want to be scared of my car. Ya know?

boosteds14
10-16-2002, 02:10 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (uuninja @ Oct. 16 2002,4:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Jeff240sx @ Oct. 14 2002,5:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (240racer @ Oct. 15 2002,1:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well I have long said that all I want out of the old KA is 300 rwhp. I am not going to build the motor. If I pop it getting there that is ok with me. Once I am there I am looking for a larger motor anyway. No point, in my opinion running a 4 cylinder ragged, KA or SR.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Good call, I'm working on the toyota 2jz swap after I have a reliable KA+T with 300rwhp. I think it would be pretty crazy to have 900+hp 240, what about the rest of you?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Both of you need to go Here (http://members.blackplanet.com/osofast/)

The 2JZ 240 has been done. I know that it says "Home of the only RB26DETT powered 240sx..." but if you click the links, it goes in-depth about his 2JZ. 900hp at 9000rpm+. And nice pics of a beautiful 2JZ-GTE.
-Jeff</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Yeah that car is owned by a guy that occasionaly posts on FA. osofast240 is his SN IIRC. Looks liek a fast car. He mentioned that the swap at least as far a mounting the motor was not too bad. No crazy crossmember fabrication and such to mount it. I am kicking around the idea of a RB25. Though after this weekend up at vir I think 300hp will be a lot for me to handle on track for the time being. I don't want to be scared of my car. Ya know?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
YA i saw that s14 at Englishtown
pretty cool lookin. at the time it had the supra motor in it but it definitly was ready for the strip