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Boostedkouki
01-16-2008, 11:45 PM
I would like to thank Otis from Rb-Performance for helping me out with a Rb25 intercooler kit for a S14 great seller will buy more item's from him real soon... Thanks alot
yarou
01-17-2008, 05:15 AM
Otis is a cool guy, bought an aluminum overflow tank from him. Sent out and gave tracking super fast
hijack3d
01-17-2008, 11:32 AM
Another +1 for Otis. Bought an RB20 trans from him after months of looking!
Jpooks_S13
01-18-2008, 12:59 AM
+1 For sure all my queistions were answered quick,communication was also great.Ill def. come back for more
wow just to add I ordered yesterday and the fedex guy just gave it to me 5 mins ago
MELLO*SOS
01-29-2008, 04:59 PM
Otis is a good guy, just got my FMIC kit in from him. Good packaging and was pleasant to talk with on the phone. Buy his parts!
icydude
02-10-2008, 06:41 PM
+1 here as well.
Picked up a fmic for my r32. Came very promptly and was a great deal.
kouki_cody
02-10-2008, 06:53 PM
werd! picked up a fmic for my buddies CA swap and both Josh and Otis are awesome guys. would for sure recommend them
Huffydmbcs42388
02-10-2008, 06:55 PM
madd shit shipped to nj and ohio.. super fast. good parts. definitly encourage people to buy from him.
Kn1ves
02-11-2008, 01:21 AM
aside from the 2 hour traffic from LA to Irvine, would gladly do business again +1
SRpetey
02-25-2008, 03:11 PM
Has anybody had a swap done by them? Any feedback?
Huffydmbcs42388
03-05-2008, 03:41 PM
yea a ca swap and a rb swap. came out super clean
heres a picture of the ca swap
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z70/RB20DET180SX/l_4c0e5f522def5e4fe1517b1240272def1.jpg
Pakua
03-12-2008, 10:02 PM
Otis is a great guy, has lot of parts with good deals. Thanks man.
an_orange_s2k
03-14-2008, 12:45 PM
bought an exhaust from him and the transaction was smooth and easy. shipped super fast and im very satisfied. will do business with again in future
Hawaiian240
03-14-2008, 01:10 PM
Thanks Otis for the 3 row JVTR! Great communication!
conner
03-15-2008, 03:07 PM
good deal on z32 maf.
Thanks
Conner
Oo_Skyline_oO
03-23-2008, 12:38 AM
Otis is the man, I'm lucky I live right next to him n bought many parts for basically free compared to any of his competition, not to mension most of his parts you can only get through him, at like half the price of others
vutony
03-23-2008, 04:31 PM
Otis is you one stop for parts, service and tech support.
MAD legit!
Drift N Dragg
03-23-2008, 06:30 PM
Bought a RB20DET .. Excellent transaction.. Awesome to deal with.. Great to shoot the #hit with and very Knowledgeable....
roboticnissan
03-28-2008, 01:48 PM
i must say otis is the all knowing dude!!!bought an exhaust for my s13 and it rules. otis is the man
HillaBean13
03-28-2008, 05:40 PM
awwwww otis everyone loves you!! but not as much as i do!!!
jdm538
04-03-2008, 12:50 AM
great buyer too.... paid me gas to deliver wheels to his house.
carlosncdi
04-03-2008, 07:21 AM
i have to say it was good to deal with him for my catback exhaust.. and very cool guy to talk to.. well deal with him may more time...
WISH ONE
04-03-2008, 06:20 PM
Otis gets with the business!
<3 mike At connell nissan
240XTC
04-05-2008, 02:55 PM
+1 for u mR otizzle.... lets go "drive" with my new turbo this summer....
homeslice
04-07-2008, 03:06 PM
:bigok: otis the man! super clean wirring job on s14,fmic/radiator/fans!!! look and work great..... deffinetly be doing business in the future!!
Martin....http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa158/CindiiiMindy/Martin/enginebay.jpg
Stein180sx
04-09-2008, 04:54 PM
Just got my rb25det intercooler from him. Looks great, I can't wait to put it on the car in a few days. Great communication the whole way, made sure to give me a tracking number. Will buy from him again.
nismo racer
04-11-2008, 11:37 AM
got my overflow tank and it was cheap and pretty quick. thanks!
sldbyuramg
04-11-2008, 03:16 PM
just talked to Otis...havent done business but definately made me feel comfortable about who will be doing my swap...thanks for the info and thanks in advance for the RB swap
Ninjabread
04-13-2008, 08:12 PM
Good prices, fast shipping, quick communication. Nothing more to ask for!
DALAZ_68
04-15-2008, 07:12 PM
this radiator fucken rocks...:naughty:
240SX2high2aim
04-15-2008, 09:55 PM
Hey can I see some pics of the engine bay I really want to see how clean it looks
:bigok: otis the man! super clean wirring job on s14,fmic/radiator look and work great..... deffinetly be doing business in the future!!
Martin....
THEMkris
04-21-2008, 05:35 PM
legit seller. wouldnt hesitate buying from him again.
Jerrys14q
04-29-2008, 08:00 AM
Finally got my car running thanks to them did a great job and will definite to bussiness again.
acheron
04-30-2008, 04:10 PM
thanks Otis for the ruca's, packaging and shipping was great. very satisfied with the product and seller. :rawk: :rawk:
xtreme_s14
05-12-2008, 08:07 PM
awaiting a clutch and flywheel from otis. i'm hoping to receive the same satisfaction as many of you have. unfortunately, i have not heard one word from him since i've paypal'd him. i'm reasonable and can understand if he's busy and all, but if you're reading this otis.. please send some sort of response and i'll gladly edit my post! thanks!
*update: spoke with otis minutes after posting. first time ever dealing with him, but apparently it's A LOT easier contacting him by phone rather than via web. thanks for not ignoring or screening my call otis! i'll update and leave more feedback when i receive the stuff!
bunnathp
06-26-2008, 07:33 PM
called otis like two days ago, and my clutch just came in two minutes ago. =)
awesome =) very fast.
Mike3000
07-02-2008, 06:09 AM
Got my clutch yesterday, looks great, fast shipping. Will order from again!
SUPERSTAR
07-08-2008, 11:54 PM
Otis, kicks ass.....got my exhaust and clutch today. Good price and the guy knows his shit when it comes to 240's.
I will be getting my KA-T kit from him after track event.
240love
07-09-2008, 12:00 AM
hell yea otis freakin owns!!!
240love^_^
07-09-2008, 12:28 AM
Otis is a cool guy!
He bought ice cream for us while we were waiting for our car...
I also bought a clutch from him and received it in a hurry ^_^
HillaBean13
07-09-2008, 12:52 AM
otis rox my sox!!
SoguRacing
07-11-2008, 10:12 PM
sold them a fuel pump yesterday. chill guys
tamdo7114
07-22-2008, 03:32 AM
good seller, quick and easy and great prices!
Casse
07-26-2008, 05:00 PM
Tension Rods going in this week, thanks for getting them out so quickly.
keistyle
07-26-2008, 06:54 PM
otis is hella legit!
met him at an in in out on a rainy day
enjoisk8board891
08-10-2008, 01:16 PM
Just curious on what ppl had to say about this. I havent seen anything but good about this guy. But i just recently tried purchasing a clutch kit off him about 2 weeks ago. I sent payment July 25th and he told me he would send it out the following Monday. Well i PMed him a week later just checkin up seein if he send it and he said it might be lost ill send you a new one if it is. 4 days ago i PMed him askin if he found it or could get me a tracking number. And if he cant send me a kit to please send my money back. He hasnt got back to me and i see that he is online almost everyday. idk what to do. Any help would be awesome and if otis does see this please get ahold of me Asap
Thanks alot,
Darren
MELLO*SOS
08-10-2008, 01:37 PM
#1 "Otis Performance"?? Otis is the guy from "RB-Performance"
#2 His business "RB-Performance" has a lengthy review already, in the Business review section you could have found with a little searching:
http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/173031-rb-performance.html
#3 He's a good guy, I've bought parts off of him with no problem.
enjoisk8board891
08-10-2008, 03:13 PM
My bad. His name is Otis so i didnt know what to put it under. How come he is ignoring me and shit. This sucks
MELLO*SOS
08-10-2008, 03:38 PM
Have you tried calling him? He's not always online.
enjoisk8board891
08-10-2008, 04:22 PM
i never got his number. But ill try the one he has on his website sometime monday. I just dont wanna get screwed over ya know
MELLO*SOS
08-10-2008, 05:45 PM
He's a good guy and has came through for countless others, you won't get screwed. There's a phone # in the banner in his sig, I think that's the # I called him at.
bunnathp
08-10-2008, 05:54 PM
otis is legit man. you just gotta call. though he might not pick up his phone sometimes. but no one picks up all the time. gl.
otis is legit. he's helped me plenty of times, he's in the middle of moving his shop. he's just extra busy. give him a call and remind him.
S13SilviaGirl
08-10-2008, 07:32 PM
From what I know of him and his people, he is a good guy. Please try to contact him, or one of his employees through telephone. If there is still no reply, please feel free to add to his existing thread. Best wishes, and I am sure he will come through for you.
iqbbang
08-12-2008, 10:41 PM
Legit seller. Just picked up 5 lug spacers for a great price. Easy to contact through Phone calls. great seller
Sup3rsak
08-13-2008, 08:26 PM
I think Otis is leaving RB or something so I figured I'll make a private seller since technically I actually went to his house. Picked up some good stuff very decent price most people will tell you he is the man cause he is.
240esux
08-28-2008, 03:56 PM
bump for a cool guy that knows what hes doing. bought some lines off him and they were in perfect shape and fit perfect! thanks otis. i recommend doing business with him!!!!
WISH ONE
08-28-2008, 04:37 PM
Otis i am very satisfied! Last night was great! Oh, and that thing you do with... lol
ultramagnus
12-07-2008, 12:07 AM
Had great transaction with him, very nice guy friendly personality,will def be back for more parts. :goyou:
socal_kouki
12-09-2008, 10:39 AM
On October 24th I pay paled Otis (Otis Performance) $82.41 for an SR alternator. We settled on $80 but I added extra for pay pal, whatever. I received it and held on to it for a few weeks before I had it checked. It was tested with both the SR and KA pigtails and was deemed non-functional.
I contacted Otis through Zilvia on November 6th he messaged me back saying to send the alternator back and he'd check for some mark he made on it. I sent it back and I haven't heard anything from him. I called him and left two separate messages and nothing. I even left him a message on his for sale thread (which he has checked since then) offering to pay a little extra to receive merchandise instead of money. I don't really need anything but I know it's a hassle to refund money.
I'm not trying to b*tch about the entire amount.. I included in my messages that I expect to pay for the shipping/pay pal whatever. But that still amounts to at LEAST 50-something bucks... I know Otis has a faithful following here and I do business with people who have known him for years... my first experience with him was a negative one cause I feel like I've done enough chasing for $50-something bucks. :down:
On a side note: I recently sold a BMC w/booster to a gentleman using Otis' pay pal account. He pay paled me $40 for it and I almost thought it was Otis using a different screen name. After he called and told me he was a separate person I felt even more frustrated. :down: :down:
WISH ONE
12-09-2008, 11:03 AM
Really....?? not like him... at all. You call him?
socal_kouki
12-09-2008, 11:19 AM
Twice. I understand he's a busy person. But how long does it take to check an alternator for secret markings..
DUFFM4N
12-09-2008, 11:55 AM
i think otis should also fix what he did to karl wasabi's car...FOE FREE
SoCal-s130
12-09-2008, 11:57 AM
i think otis should also fix what he did to karl wasabi's car...FOE FREE
Yeah I wanna see Karl driving that car already... :-/
Om1kron
12-09-2008, 11:58 AM
Yeah he's probably busy doing more half assed engine harness work for people, to re-up when trying to charge people again to fix his fuck up work. Dude sells parts on the cheap, but if you're not picking something up from him in person and can deal with him in person I seriously would not even waste my time with that jack ass.
Z33dori
12-09-2008, 12:26 PM
i;ve had teh same problem i paid him almost 2 months ago for a tuned ecu
and i have still yet to receive it.. i have talked to him, and every time i give him my info he never replies back with an update.
i'm very unsatisfied with his business ....
Steve-O-Performance
12-09-2008, 12:58 PM
i think otis should also fix what he did to karl wasabi's car...FOE FREE
Uh no when a car leaves our shop running and then the customer decideds to do somthing that should of been left alone. THAT IS NOT OUR PROBLEM. We looked at it and found his problems due to changing a harness which didnt need to be changed We got it to run but not properly, we could of fixed it but he didnt want to pay for his mistakes.
If it was a newer car and it was repaired at the dealer do you think the dealer would warranty the work if it was tampered with? NO
Steve-O-Performance
12-09-2008, 01:04 PM
Yeah he's probably busy doing more half assed engine harness work for people, to re-up when trying to charge people again to fix his fuck up work. Dude sells parts on the cheap, but if you're not picking something up from him in person and can deal with him in person I seriously would not even waste my time with that jack ass.
Its half assed customers with no money wanting a 300 hp sr bringing me and oits there hacked harness's and we make it work within there budget. So unless you got some serious cash to get a new harness then I guess you have to deal with what you get from Japan.
Steve-O-Performance
12-09-2008, 01:10 PM
On October 24th I pay paled Otis (Otis Performance) $82.41 for an SR alternator. We settled on $80 but I added extra for pay pal, whatever. I received it and held on to it for a few weeks before I had it checked. It was tested with both the SR and KA pigtails and was deemed non-functional.
I contacted Otis through Zilvia on November 6th he messaged me back saying to send the alternator back and he'd check for some mark he made on it. I sent it back and I haven't heard anything from him. I called him and left two separate messages and nothing. I even left him a message on his for sale thread (which he has checked since then) offering to pay a little extra to receive merchandise instead of money. I don't really need anything but I know it's a hassle to refund money.
I'm not trying to b*tch about the entire amount.. I included in my messages that I expect to pay for the shipping/pay pal whatever. But that still amounts to at LEAST 50-something bucks... I know Otis has a faithful following here and I do business with people who have known him for years... my first experience with him was a negative one cause I feel like I've done enough chasing for $50-something bucks. :down:
On a side note: I recently sold a BMC w/booster to a gentleman using Otis' pay pal account. He pay paled me $40 for it and I almost thought it was Otis using a different screen name. After he called and told me he was a separate person I felt even more frustrated. :down: :down:
Me and Otis never recieved that alternator back. So unless you have tracking information to prove it got sent back then we will not send out a replacement. And I had the alternator checked before it was packaged so I know it was good cause we wouldnt ship out a broken part. And how do I know that you are not sending us back your old part to try and get something for free? So until that alternator arrives and its tested and examined then we will decide on what to do.
DUFFM4N
12-09-2008, 01:17 PM
Uh no when a car leaves our shop running and then the customer decideds to do somthing that should of been left alone. THAT IS NOT OUR PROBLEM. We looked at it and found his problems due to changing a harness which didnt need to be changed We got it to run but not properly, we could of fixed it but he didnt want to pay for his mistakes.
If it was a newer car and it was repaired at the dealer do you think the dealer would warranty the work if it was tampered with? NO
karl will post the story and pictures of the supposed "harness work" that was done to the car...
Steve-O-Performance
12-09-2008, 01:37 PM
Yea the car was hacked before he brought us the car. I bet he doesnt have a before picture of the first entire harness before we repaired it. Either way his car ran perfectly unitl Karl messed with the harness. I drove the car it hauled ass but now it wont rev due to wire tampering. Like I said we got it to run with his newer harness and he wouldnt pay to have it wired in corretly instead of temporary wiring we used to get it to run. If he wanted he could copy the wiring of the old harness and save him this frustration. Hopefully he can do wiring better than he can weld his engine bay. Maybe he should post up some pictures of his handy work and youll see why he brought the car to us.
Steve-O-Performance
12-09-2008, 01:52 PM
Any person trying to contact Otis can contact me here through zilvia only if you cant contact Otis. This way things will get handled properly. Sorry for thread jacking about Karls car. And we'll figure out that alternator issue.
karl wasabi
12-09-2008, 02:14 PM
For any persons in here discussing my car, please refrain. I do not want to start this mess in someone elses thread. I have contacted / PM'ed Steve-O-Laggins who now seems to be in charge of Q&A at RB-Otis Peformance.
socal kouki...I am sorry for this mess in your thread.
Om1kron
12-09-2008, 05:17 PM
No problemo Otis, I work on my own car anyway so I don't have to deal with Q&A reps.
socal_kouki
12-09-2008, 05:36 PM
Look i don't have time to deal with kids.
iam going to send you the full amount
send a payment request now!
I know the alternator was good because i tested before i sent it out
i never got it back in the mail
you can't even give me a tracking number for the alternator????.
my address is
15311 pipeline ln
Huntington beach ca 92649
For all you locals that are posting Bs.
Don't call me when someone scams/fucks you over and you need help fixing you car!
First of all I'd like to apologize for bringing this into public discussion but you ignored my calls. I never insulted you in any way for you to call me names. I'm a grown ass man I will have the same respect I've given you.
I SENT YOU YOUR ALTERNATOR. And you know there's no tracking number. It's pretty obvious you know I don't have one cause I never even refused to provide one.
Steve-O-Laggins: "And how do I know that you are not sending us back your old part to try and get something for free?"
I thought you never received it? And I thought Otis made a secret mark on it to identify his product?
I'm not looking for anything other than what I deserve. I will NOT send you a payment request for any amount. I think YOU should send me the amount and I will accept my money after your shipping charges have been deducted just like I told you in my phone messages and in PM. My email is the same as my Zilvia name at Hotmail.. it's on your paypal twice once paying the alt.. and once being paid for the BMC.
626 guys, no worries this is a review thread for anyone else to use as well.
JayDee M Rolly
12-09-2008, 10:06 PM
still havent gotten my speed sensor.
karl wasabi
12-11-2008, 05:23 PM
I've been PM'ing Otis and his "Rep" about my situation. Funny...there hasn't been a response. Just...waiting...:down:
Z33dori
12-11-2008, 09:58 PM
yea same here... funny how we can find the time to defend himself
but can't answer pm's from other pissed off customers....
DALAZ_68
12-12-2008, 09:30 AM
yea same here... funny how we can find the time to defend himself
but can't answer pm's from other pissed off customers....
funny how u say that, if he didnt defend himself ud bitch about him being shady and stay in the shadows off radar...
ive delt with Otis personally, he does good work...and he's right, most people who contact him have half assed hacked jobs that were done by others or themselves...u get what u pay for, he didnt want to pay to have it done to a full extent then so be it deal wiht the bare minimum if not less...
to the gent with Alt problem...maybe u should have gottena tracking number, i havent had a part sent back to me but u bet ur ass id ask them to send me a trakc # so i know that they sent it.
Otis i hope everthing gets worked out
karl wasabi
12-12-2008, 04:47 PM
Hey Hillary, YOU should tell Otis to call me. He won't answer my calls...
And I have no representative. I can handle my own shit.
WISH ONE
12-12-2008, 04:54 PM
I understand that every shop/ dealership has their fair share of come backs and unhappy customers, unless you know/or have dealt with him personally your input is worthless, and in some cases unacceptable. He has always been straight forward and honest with me, and for those who say that have experienced otherwise I apologize. This review is thread, not a free for all to bash someones business, or vehicle, or employees, especially those who have not dealt directly with him. If all of you have some personal business to handle you know how to do that, in person, not on a public forum.
socal_kouki
12-12-2008, 04:59 PM
funny how u say that, if he didnt defend himself ud bitch about him being shady and stay in the shadows off radar...
to the gent with Alt problem...maybe u should have gottena tracking number, i havent had a part sent back to me but u bet ur ass id ask them to send me a trakc # so i know that they sent it.
Otis i hope everthing gets worked out
You're completly right about the tracking number. I did return it, I'm not a thief, I'm not going to risk my reputation among my peers for 50-something f*cking dollars. I'll have to believe he didn't receive it and take my loss.
Alas, the evident fact is that Otis runs his business like sh*t. I'm not the only one complaining about it.
the wiring was correct. karl screwed up his wiring on his own. otis has his friends that represent him and help him out and so does karl obviously i mean how many people on here are sitting and talking about karls car...??? and correct me if i am wrong but according to the order of posts in this thread werent you the first one to comment on karls situation??? so im guessing your one of karls representatives also????
Mods: Can we please be less lenient on how many people in Otis' entourage are allowed to come in and drop their :2c:. I'd hate to see this thread get locked before more of Otis' customers get a chance to complain..
karl wasabi
12-12-2008, 05:27 PM
maybe you shouldnt be commenting on something that doesnt concern you.. where you there when karl picked his car up from otis?? cuz i was and i know exactly how it ran. i know whats going on first hand you dont so untill you get your facts straight. shhh
Oh, did you tell Otis to call me yet? Cause I haven't gotten one...
And by you insulting other people on this forum and feeling all superior, it really is degrading to the name of Otis/RB Performance.
socal_kouki
12-12-2008, 05:27 PM
maybe you shouldnt be commenting on something that doesnt concern you.. where you there when karl picked his car up from otis?? cuz i was and i know exactly how it ran. i know whats going on first hand you dont so untill you get your facts straight. shhh
I was refering to my own case, Hillabean.
I quoted one of your posts because there's way too many of Otis' friends in here, trying to discredit people's personal reviews in a review thread.
He's not allowed to post in this thread and neither are you.
DALAZ_68
12-12-2008, 05:44 PM
You're completly right about the tracking number. I did return it, I'm not a thief, I'm not going to risk my reputation among my peers for 50-something f*cking dollars. I'll have to believe he didn't receive it and take my loss.
Alas, the evident fact is that Otis runs his business like sh*t. I'm not the only one complaining about it.
.
just to clarify, in no way did i mean to call u a thief, and lets leave that at that, i can only comment on my experience with RB performance and honestly it was +...so i hope u dont think im just one of his ''friends'' tryin to represent him...
i hope everything gets resolved right for everyone
bardabe
12-12-2008, 06:37 PM
Uh no when a car leaves our shop running and then the customer decideds to do somthing that should of been left alone. THAT IS NOT OUR PROBLEM. We looked at it and found his problems due to changing a harness which didnt need to be changed We got it to run but not properly, we could of fixed it but he didnt want to pay for his mistakes.
If it was a newer car and it was repaired at the dealer do you think the dealer would warranty the work if it was tampered with? NO
Hey, I can honestly put my work here, im not taking sides but this is my honest Profecional opinion of what i saw. and inspected on Karl's car. when i first showed up and saw his car, it was depressing at the very least to say.
he had the car "wired up" as the way it left RB-performance.
The Tachometer didn't work
The Speedo Did not work
didn't wanna wait and find it out if the temperature needle would function properly. since it didn't move after a minute.
the wiring harness itself "looked" Clean but as i got further into the wiring on "omg the instruments don't work" situation that's where things turned... for the worst. by then i had to go and take care of personal stuff so i left karl and really thought about the quality of work that was on the car. the way it looked so far. it was already mediocre
I came back to see Karl's car a few days later to keep digging into this mess, and was amazed even more. speechless i was at the very least but i found multiple things that where done like i've never seen done before. let me tell you what i saw;
For starters, The Dash plug by the ECU wasn't there... hmm wonder why the cluster didn't work *sarcasm*
- it also explain why the car was hard to start due to no start signal
lets keep moving along, lets see how he wired up the KA engine harness plugs in to the RB, looked for them for about 10 minutes, nowhere to be found, pretty odd if you ask me, so i look into his fender harness "Ahhh there they are" but something looked off, they had nothing attached. that definitely got me thinking. i really didn't want to look at the lower harness but shit it really couldn't be much worse. so i looked at it and eh messy is the nice way to put it.
I talked to karl that day, we sat down on the curb looked at his car ate some chilly and looked at his options. from what Karl had told me these where the reasons those weren't hooked up is because his chassis harness was messed up and that was the cleanest way to do it. That i can say right there and then is just a bullshit excuse because his harness in fact was a little messed up but not fubar and they could have charged him maby an extra 100$ 150$ tops to get some salvaged plugs, and wire it up properly.
This is the way i saw them wire it up. (unwrapped the harness)
all the power wires, got cut up and crimped into one huge Green power wire, close to the ECU then ran out of the fender well into the Engine bay,
the Fuel pump relay wire coming out of the ECU was completely cut and the other wire was nowhere to be found, the Temperature gauge sensor was cut and crimped another separate wire and taped along the side of the stock harness, and crimped into the stock chassis harness on the wrong wire at that. the ECU tach signal was tapped into with the cheap vatozone wire taps and as well tapped into the stock wiring harness again on the wrong pin. the lower harness was monkey rigged beyond belief, the alternator charge signal (white wire red stripe) instead of being soldered hell even crimped on the proper plug, it was extended and crimped on to the big green wire that came off the ECU, the charge wire was just clamped to the battery terminal, speed signal, neutral switch and reverse switch weren't even hooked up. Only thing they did right was the starter wire. Now the big green wire, and the alternator charge signal, where going to a relay in the front of the engine bay.... followed by a big black wire. they are going to a relay, great an oem nissan relay with blade type connectors
1 Power feed with no Fuse
3 power outputs from 1 pin to 2 fat wires (ECU, aternator, and Fans)
1 Ground
1 signal wire
COMPLETE FUCKIN HACK JOB! i stand amazed, karl is just speech less...
either way we come to a conclusion I told Karl to get a nother chassis harness with plugs to use for the RB swap the proper way and talk to otis and see what he would say. From what i was Told Otis agreed to fix his wiring he just had to tow the car back there because he uses "his own secret way to wire it up so nobody can mess with it", no big deal.
Karl tows the car, Otis refuses to repair the hack job, instead he reconnects the signal wire to the relay, so it powers the ecu, and fans again and tells Karl that's all he can do for free That it would cost him money to have his work fixed.
I am now going to unleash myself uppon the task of attempting to repair this wiring harness, and figure out the all mighty secret ways of the wiring. worse case scenario his engine harness will cost more to be repaired than a new OEM nissan harness.
I'm going to check the Timing belt job, since the car wont even idle right. since apparently it was done real fast to get the car out of the shop last minute. Karl has pictures of the wiring wich i will leave up to him to post or not.
as the reputable Nissan specialist that i am, i really don't know what's going on in that shop, but they gotta get their shit straight before the BAR get's involved with all this bad business. Their bad Jobs are giving me good business though I'll give them that much.
Thank You RB Performance, for all the half ass job's you have done that i have to repair and send one more satisfied customer on it's way.
-Juan
socal_kouki
12-13-2008, 04:36 PM
socal_kouki i want a fucking tracking number!! you started all this shit so finish it.
I already told you there's no tracking number TWICE. Despite the fact that I don't believe you or your people, I've kept my cool and accepted my loss. Knock it off with the tough guy role. You're not speaking with an imaginary SN on "teh interwebz"...
I'm not sure exactly how I started this harness deal or the other reviews.. I assure you it was not my intent. I just wanted my money.
karl wasabi
12-14-2008, 06:46 PM
In mid September I completed my RB20 motor swap with the exception of the wiring. I wanted to wire up the motor myself, but thought a professional would be the better way to go. I decided to call Otis at RB Performance and see what some of my options were. All he said was "Bring the car down." I towed the car over to RB Performance and Otis took a look at my car. He told me all the things that needed to be done and I told him all the things I would like to be done. Later in the day I received a call from Otis saying, "Your wiring harness is completely fucked up, I'll have to pull the entire harness out and re-do everything." I asked him for a quote, and he proceeded to tell me that it wouldn't be more than an 8 hour job at the "hook-up" price of $75/hr.
I reluctantly agreed to this as my car was already at the shop and being worked on. He also assured me that if anything ever went wrong with the wiring, he would fix it FOR FREE.
A later update reveals that the timing is "way off" and the belt needs to be redone. I was somewhat in shock as I did the timing belt when the motor was out of the car with my uncle. We quadruple checked the timing and cams, making sure everything was in the proper position. I told him to go ahead and re-do the timing belt reluctantly once again. This was going to be another 2-3 $75/hr job on top of the wiring job.
When I went to the shop to pick up my "finished" car, I saw that the most of the work I asked to be done, was in fact not done. The tach wasn't wired up, the cluster didn't work, the tail lights didn't work, the temperature sensor wasn't hooked up, the alternator wasn't charging, exhaust wasn’t installed, etc. Basically, the car was not drivable. Otis seemed to be in a rush and quickly hooked up the temperature sensor and tach by splicing it into the stock KA chassis harness using butt connectors!!!
After this, one of the shop hands took the car for a test drive. He deemed it properly running and said it was fast as hell. I then took it for a test drive, and to me it felt like it bogged a little before reaching boost. I didn’t think too much of it at the time, and was just happy that my car was running.
Most of my accessories were not working and Otis told me that I could bring the car back when I got a new harness and he would get everything wired up. (ie. Cluster, speedo, etc.)
I got the car home, and tried to start it up the next day. It took a lot of cranking and a lot of revving to finally get the motor running. I took it around the block exactly once and parked the car in my driveway. I contacted Bardabe (Juan) here on Zilvia to try and help me figure out what was going on with my accessories (since Otis was no help) and he told me that there must be a short or something missing in my chassis harness. So I got a new chassis harness from the junkyard, same year and model, and threw it in.
There was a minor problem though with getting the old chassis harness out. The RB engine harness was spliced directly into the old KA chassis harness!!! WTF? I thought as there was no way in getting the old chassis harness out without cutting wires. I had to cut exactly 3 wires to get the bad chassis harness out. When I put the new harness in, I didn’t want to try and splice anything into the harness and mess up the engine wiring. Juan took a look at it and couldn’t figure it out either. He told me that he’s never seen a wiring job like this EVER! Plugs and wires that were supposed to be there, weren’t… We also discovered that there were a few wires cut from the ECU.
So I talked to Otis about this and he told me that he wired up the harness a “special way” and only he knew where certain plugs and wires were. OK…???
So I brought the car down to Otis’ shop AGAIN because he told me he would fix it. He started by cutting off all the stock KA chassis harness plugs and twisting them together. It then took him about an hour to get the car running and when it was running the bogging problem persisted. He told me that this was a new problem and it must have been something I did, or when I was driving the car around. Like stated before, I got the car, drove it around the block once and parked it the whole time. I told him, “No, the car was like that when it left the shop.” He also accused me of cutting the wires to the ECU. We argued about this for a while and basically he told me he couldn’t do anything about it, and that it would cost another $300 to fix. He said that he had to redo the wiring once again. How could all these ENGINE problems occur by changing a CHASSIS harness? He also refused to wire up my tach, speedo, temp sensor, and so on after telling me previously that he would do it once I got a new harness.
I picked up the car the next day in pretty much in the same condition I brought it in (possibly worse). Once I got the car back to my house, it was the same. About 10-15 cranks and a lot of revving finally turned the motor over. Once the motor was running the idle was horrible and had lots of hesitation and bog. It also started backfiring out of the intake. This sounds like a timing problem right? But how could I possibly have a timing problem if I paid Otis to fix the timing? I guess he didn’t fix it.
His shop conditions were…bad to say the least. Every time I’ve gone to his shop his buddies are all there just having a blast and getting drunk. He spent more than half his time chatting with his buddies than working on my car. The shop is always a mess and tools are cluttered all over the place. He also spent another hour looking for his dog that ran away instead of working on my car. I bet all these extra hours spent chatting with buddies was added to the labor cost when in fact, there was no labor going on.
So now I have a car that doesn’t run, AND I’m also out over $800 for the shotty work I paid Otis to do. He won’t even give me a partial refund, and he is now avoiding my phone calls and PM’s. I’m currently looking for a new RB engine harness to start all over again. Bardabe is going to do the swap for me this time, and his work is MUCH better for the same, if not cheaper cost.
DO NOT GO TO OTIS / RB PERFORMANCE FOR A MOTOR SWAP OF ANY KIND!!! You’ll save yourself the hassle…
karl wasabi
12-14-2008, 06:57 PM
Cliffnotes:
Do not go to Otis/RB Performance for any wiring service of any kind.
Otis wired up my car and stated that if anything ever went wrong with the wiring, he would fix it for free.
Did not complete all the work asked the first time around.
The swap was thrown together by splicing and using butt connectors!!!
The “hookup” price is the normal price.
Otis is a lazy worker (does not pay attention to detail)
He won’t back up his work if something goes wrong.
Accused me of “fucking up my harness”
Otis and his workers insult paying customers.
Otis will not fix or even try to resolve this problem.
Horrible shop conditions.
The maximum amount of time it should take to do a job will always be what you pay for.
Horrible quality of work.
krisdeezy
12-14-2008, 07:19 PM
wow. sorry to hear that man.. i called him to ask him how much would it be to install my ka-t and the ka is out of an s14..he told me that he needs to pull all the internals out of the s14 ka and put in my m s13 ka ( i have arias pistons in it ) i clearly told him it was converted to s13 already and he just went on how it wont work...
C. Senor
12-14-2008, 07:59 PM
i'm not trying to take sides, as i personally know both otis and karl. both are cool guys. otis in fact did the swap on my car. although shit went south with my motor, we were able to fix everything monatarily speaking. i've bought stuff from otis before, never had a problem. karl is a nice enough guy, and i would accuse him of lying either. obviously there is a story that no one but otis and karl are going to completely know. seriously hope both parties work things out.
karl wasabi
12-15-2008, 12:04 AM
damn this sucks
Yes it does...
wow
and i was gonna have him do my harness when i do my swap
time to look elsewhere
Hit up Bardabe.
dam karl. hope you get it up and running.
I hope so too. =/
wow. sorry to hear that man.. i called him to ask him how much would it be to install my ka-t and the ka is out of an s14..he told me that he needs to pull all the internals out of the s14 ka and put in my m s13 ka ( i have arias pistons in it ) i clearly told him it was converted to s13 already and he just went on how it wont work...
Yeah man. He's just trying to milk you of your money.
karl wasabi
12-15-2008, 12:17 AM
This is how the engine was wired up. All the positive power wires all routed into one. I don't think that's a good idea...
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f180/kismo14/1111081534.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f180/kismo14/1111081534a.jpg
Does something look wrong in this picture? That is where Otis cut off all of the KA engine harness plugs. Twisting them together seems to be safe measure.
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f180/kismo14/1209081249.jpg
The ECU wires he claims that I cut...
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f180/kismo14/1209081251.jpg
When I brought him the engine harness, it most certainly did not look like that. I guess that's how he redoes wiring harnesses.
More random splicing...
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f180/kismo14/1209081251a.jpg
Check out how the electric fans are wired up. I just love how the relay is mounted. More BUTT CONNECTORS were used.
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f180/kismo14/1209081252.jpg
More butt connectors and random splicing.
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f180/kismo14/1209081252a.jpg
I asked him to PROPERLY INSTALL my air filter...so far so good...
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f180/kismo14/1209081254.jpg
I didn't know you use wood screws to hold on air filters. Look at all those holes that can allow dirty air to get into the engine.
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f180/kismo14/1209081255.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f180/kismo14/1209081256.jpg
I wish I had pictures of how he mounted the electric fans. He used ZIPTIES looped around the radiator fins to hold the electric fans to the radiator. Now I have messed up radiator fins...
usdm180sx
12-15-2008, 12:51 AM
From what i have seen, rb performance = ghetto. I met him once at the autobacs meet. He didn't make a good impression. So, I would NEVER take my car there. But that's just me.
karl wasabi
12-15-2008, 12:59 AM
One of Otis's workers trying to back up the shop...
Uh no when a car leaves our shop running and then the customer decideds to do somthing that should of been left alone. THAT IS NOT OUR PROBLEM. We looked at it and found his problems due to changing a harness which didnt need to be changed We got it to run but not properly, we could of fixed it but he didnt want to pay for his mistakes.
If it was a newer car and it was repaired at the dealer do you think the dealer would warranty the work if it was tampered with? NO
Hmm...that's funny, cause after I changed the harness, all my lights and other accessories started working. So I guess it did need to be changed. Oh yeah, Otis also told me that he would back it up...
We got it to run but not properly
This should be the quote of the year...
karl wasabi
12-15-2008, 01:17 AM
Wow thats crazy. Wiring up a RB20 to a S13 is way too easy IDK how he messed it up. Sorry to hear about your problems.
That is exactly what I have been told. When I'm told that, it's like IDK how to explain how horrible this situation is going...
karl wasabi
12-15-2008, 01:24 AM
Yea the car was hacked before he brought us the car. I bet he doesnt have a before picture of the first entire harness before we repaired it. Either way his car ran perfectly unitl Karl messed with the harness. I drove the car it hauled ass but now it wont rev due to wire tampering. Like I said we got it to run with his newer harness and he wouldnt pay to have it wired in corretly instead of temporary wiring we used to get it to run. If he wanted he could copy the wiring of the old harness and save him this frustration. Hopefully he can do wiring better than he can weld his engine bay. Maybe he should post up some pictures of his handy work and youll see why he brought the car to us.
Now who wants to take their car to a shop that insults your work or you knowledge? I don't have a before picture of my harness, but I do have the after picture above, and it's worse than before.
Me "messing" with the harness involved cutting 3 wires that were directly wired into the chassis harness that shouldn't have been. This worker obviously doesn't understand the situation and made RB Performance look even worse.
karl wasabi
12-15-2008, 01:27 AM
Any person trying to contact Otis can contact me here through zilvia only if you cant contact Otis. This way things will get handled properly. Sorry for thread jacking about Karls car. And we'll figure out that alternator issue.
The second after I read this post, I contacted this Steve-O-Laggins. I also contacted Otis. Funny thing is that I never got a response back from them. So in other words, things were not handled properly.
karl wasabi
12-15-2008, 02:32 AM
Otis's response in a previous thread to something I didn't even start.
We got it to run but not properly. ok let me finsh this. steve is trying to say is that when you took me you car the second time( i saw everything cut out because you put in a new body harness) ernie ask me to get you car running so i said ok because he asked me. so when you dropped of your car i got it running in less then 1 min.
after that u askin me what else am i going to do for free and i said thats it so u you told it home. there was no way i was going to get you car running right. i am not a fucking slave
I never said he was a slave. I just want what was promised. For my car to run properly and function properly.
karl wasabi
First- you fucked up when you pm me tried ton threaten/Blackmail me with this (If I can't get this partial refund, which I think is completely and absolutely fair, I'm going to have to write a separate bad review thread on Zilvia, and all the other 240sx forums.
My paypal address is... I'll be looking forward in seeing that money soon. If not, I have the pictures and people to prove that you guys should not be running a
Maybe you should talk to some of your older buddy's before you even thanking about doing anything.
I don't think that is black mailing. I just wanted what was promised. If I couldn't get what was promised, why wouldn't a partial refund be fair?
Second. you paid me a week and a half after i fixed your car.
you test drove your car in front of my shop with everything working and it was running great, other then your wheel almost falling off because you did a half as job putting it on( just like the timing belt)
It was more like a week. And I had to wait to get paid to paid for the ridiculous amount of labor he charged me. After paying him to fix my timing belt, it's still messed up...
he said when he got his car back it was fucked up. but he still paid me a week and a half later.
No one on this forum would pay me a week and a half later after getting there car back fucked up.
You came down to my shop asking me to fixed your car without you having money so i told you ill fix it and you could pay me when you had the money. i only did that because some goods friends told me to take care of you. no one would have did that! now your trying to fuck me.
No, when I got my car back it wasn't fucked. The accessories were not working and I therefore put in a new chassis harness to fix it. He would then not repair what was supposed to be repaired the first time around. ie. tach, speedo, cluster.
well guess what. You just fucked it up for yourself and everyone. SO EVERYONE THANK KARL
all the people that where looking to buy parts or looking to get your car fix we don't do it anymore. rb performance is no longer doing swaps. So all the rb guys needing parts "sorry"
I had a lot of New Parts that you have never seen in the us for rb20det and at a price that no one could ever beat. i am not going to spend the money now to get them made. (lets hope someone buys the company and keep supporting RB engines if that happens I am pretty sure the price isn't going to be the same)
I will await the thanks from everyone. RB Peformance not doing anymore swaps will be a service to the whole community. People that do good work will get paid for their quality work and will not have their business stolen by shops that claim to do proper motor swaps and wiring conversions at a cheaper price.
I'm sure these "new parts" would have been thrown together and have poor quality and only cause problems down the line.
RB performance is now only working on there own cars and running drift events from west to East coast starting at the top of next year ( Sorry for all the company's that are going to take a hurt because of Karl)
For all my customers that have warranty's of any kind. Don't worry RB performance is moving into a better shop in Huntington beach top of next year. Even if i am out of town there will always be someone that can help you out.
I don't see how RB Performance no longer doing motor swaps will hurt any companies. I can only see it as helping other companies thrive.
That's strange...I had a warranty from RB Performance. It was never honored.
bardabe
1. reputable Nissan specialist Over night. (first you got to get a nissan)
2. anything you have/had did i already did had it.
3.fuck, my Track wheels for my s14 cost more car/parts you have ever own.
4.i started everything without any money there's no mom/daddy money here.. i moved from the east coast to here with no fucking money at all and every month iam doing something new. "Bigger and better aways" you been doing the same shit for as long as i can remember.
Everyone talking shit. i know who all of you are! your all running or have ran my parts. Thank you. ( if you have any personal problems I am local and you know where to find me)
There will be no more post from me.
i have said all iam going to say for along as time.
More shit talking to other Zilvia members and shops...
I just want everyone out there to know how horrible a shop this guy is running. I don't want anyone else to go through the same situation that I am going through. This is why I am writing this extensive review. I don't expect anything back from Otis anymore. It's too far gone. I just want to inform everyone now.
karl wasabi
12-15-2008, 03:23 AM
My new mechanics, Bardabe, take on this whole situation.
Hey, I can honestly put my word here, I'm not taking sides but this is my honest Professional opinion of what i saw and inspected on Karl's car. When I first showed up and saw his car, it was depressing at the very least to say.
he had the car "wired up" as the way it left RB-performance.
The Tachometer didn't work
The Speedo Did not work
didn't wanna wait and find it out if the temperature needle would function properly. since it didn't move after a minute.
the wiring harness itself "looked" Clean but as i got further into the wiring on "omg the instruments don't work" situation that's where things turned... for the worst. by then i had to go and take care of personal stuff so i left karl and really thought about the quality of work that was on the car. the way it looked so far. it was already mediocre
I came back to see Karl's car a few days later to keep digging into this mess, and was amazed even more. speechless i was at the very least but i found multiple things that where done like i've never seen done before. let me tell you what i saw;
For starters, The Dash plug by the ECU wasn't there... hmm wonder why the cluster didn't work *sarcasm*
- it also explain why the car was hard to start due to no start signal
lets keep moving along, lets see how he wired up the KA engine harness plugs in to the RB, looked for them for about 10 minutes, nowhere to be found, pretty odd if you ask me, so i look into his fender harness "Ahhh there they are" but something looked off, they had nothing attached. that definitely got me thinking. i really didn't want to look at the lower harness but shit it really couldn't be much worse. so i looked at it and eh messy is the nice way to put it.
I talked to karl that day, we sat down on the curb looked at his car ate some chilly and looked at his options. from what Karl had told me these where the reasons those weren't hooked up is because his chassis harness was messed up and that was the cleanest way to do it. That i can say right there and then is just a bullshit excuse because his harness in fact was a little messed up but not fubar and they could have charged him maby an extra 100$ 150$ tops to get some salvaged plugs, and wire it up properly.
This is the way i saw them wire it up. (unwrapped the harness)
all the power wires, got cut up and crimped into one huge Green power wire, close to the ECU then ran out of the fender well into the Engine bay,
the Fuel pump relay wire coming out of the ECU was completely cut and the other wire was nowhere to be found, the Temperature gauge sensor was cut and crimped another separate wire and taped along the side of the stock harness, and crimped into the stock chassis harness on the wrong wire at that. the ECU tach signal was tapped into with the cheap vatozone wire taps and as well tapped into the stock wiring harness again on the wrong pin. the lower harness was monkey rigged beyond belief, the alternator charge signal (white wire red stripe) instead of being soldered hell even crimped on the proper plug, it was extended and crimped on to the big green wire that came off the ECU, the charge wire was just clamped to the battery terminal, speed signal, neutral switch and reverse switch weren't even hooked up. Only thing they did right was the starter wire. Now the big green wire, and the alternator charge signal, where going to a relay in the front of the engine bay.... followed by a big black wire. they are going to a relay, great an oem nissan relay with blade type connectors
1 Power feed with no Fuse
3 power outputs from 1 pin to 2 fat wires (ECU, aternator, and Fans)
1 Ground
1 signal wire
COMPLETE FUCKIN HACK JOB! i stand amazed, karl is just speech less...
either way we come to a conclusion I told Karl to get another chassis harness with plugs to use for the RB swap the proper way and talk to otis and see what he would say. From what I was told Otis agreed to fix his wiring he just had to tow the car back there because he uses "his own secret way to wire it up so nobody can mess with it", no big deal.
Karl tows the car, Otis refuses to repair the hack job, instead he reconnects the signal wire to the relay, so it powers the ecu, and fans again and tells Karl that's all he can do for free That it would cost him money to have his work fixed.
I am now going to unleash myself uppon the task of attempting to repair this wiring harness, and figure out the all mighty secret ways of the wiring. worse case scenario his engine harness will cost more to be repaired than a new OEM nissan harness.
I'm going to check the Timing belt job, since the car wont even idle right. since apparently it was done real fast to get the car out of the shop last minute. Karl has pictures of the wiring which i will leave up to him to post or not.
as the reputable Nissan specialist that i am, i really don't know what's going on in that shop, but they gotta get their shit straight before the BAR get's involved with all this bad business. Their bad Jobs are giving me good business though I'll give them that much.
Thank You RB Performance, for all the half ass job's you have done that i have to repair and send one more satisfied customer on it's way.
-Juan
karl wasabi
12-15-2008, 03:30 AM
As of now, I am finished with this review. I want everyone to know what kind of hack job I had done to my car. I don't want this to happen to anyone else. Otis says that he will no longer do motor swaps because of this situation, and all I can say to this is THANK GOD!
I hope that this has informed everyone of the horrible work that is done at RB-Performance and of the quality of persons working there. All I asked for was a partial refund of my money to get this repaired somewhere else. This resulted to an outburst in a different thread that I didn't even start.
I was told to contact RB-Performance to fix this problem, and I did. I haven't received and kind of response or any attempt to try and resolve this situation. At this point I really don't expect anything anymore, but if I do get something back, I will be sure to inform everyone that this problem was resolved.
As of right now, if anyone was considering going to this shop to buy parts or to get a swap done, look somewhere else. Chances are you'll run into this same situation.
Thanks everyone for taking some time to read all this. I know it was a lot.
-Karl
karl wasabi
12-15-2008, 03:37 AM
My take on this whole situation can be found in the business review thread. The link can be found in my sig.
Om1kron
12-15-2008, 11:20 AM
I'm glad that you got in contact with Juan to fix your harness Karl, I've been searching extensively on the boards concerning wiring and stuff before I dove into my harness and when I saw that this little kid build his own custom harness for an rb into an s13 chassis to replace a fucked up chassis harness and engine harness I knew that this kid could help you out.
His work I've followed through what he's posted and still shows up on photo bucket and it has inspired me to take on my own work. So all I can say is good luck at this point and happy motoring when it's all done.
This is what i'm talking about when the community gets together granted it's going to be costing some coin, it's going to get done right. Shops are sometimes and not all the times tuners who have lost their soul and inspiration for quality work and have a get er done mentality to put food on the table, and while I cant fault anyone for that.
It's the main reason why you will never see a shops stickers running on my car telling you "go here for their work" because I don't trust anyone enough to work on my car. Even if it was running perfectly, my heart would break if I tore it down one day to see what you have in your engine bay. That is just godamned ridiculous man, and for Otis to insult you and anyone else who puts bad on his name or tries to bust out with the whole "see if I hook you up anymore" type of mentality...
I don't need your hook ups, I just want to deal with someone honest, and I would rather pay a higher price to get things done right and my way from the start, then twice in the end.
karl wasabi
12-15-2008, 03:27 PM
Or stop being gay and or lazy and do It your self.. It works right? does your car run? Then who gives a fuck.. Thats How I see It.. Have a friend of yours clean It up..
I'd hate to see your car's wiring or work with that kind of attitude. I know I could have done the wiring myself if I WANTED to, but I just wanted someone who has done it before to do it. I wanted it done right. I got no where with that.
That sucks man. I had this happen to me with "sleepermotorsports" AKA dynoworks, the shop owner Dave was just as shady. I lost 1300.00 or so in labor, got the runaround , my car died about 3 miles from my house and had it towed the rest of the way. The owner at the time (Dave) said that as soon as I drove the car out of his shop my warranty was no good.
I hope you get all of your money back , and do contact the BBB they may be able to do something for you.
That sucks to hear man. Did you ever get your money back?
Damn Karl, I just spent the last few minutes reading this whole thread. Sucks man. To tell you the truth, of the cars I've seen swapped at RB performance (pics wise on the forums), I am not the least bit surprised.
Hope things work out for you man.
Thanks for taking the time to read my review. I hope I do get things worked out.
Huffydmbcs42388
12-15-2008, 08:40 PM
woah woah woah.. this is crazy ive been buying parts from otis for a long time.. and i had problems wiring my rb25 and ca into a s13 and s14 here and he flew up all the way to jersey and wired it up perfectly, and had no problems since.. ac works etc. ANy problems ive had with my twin turbo supra mkiv and non turbo supra mkiv hes told me what the problem was and how to fix it over the phone. never seen him do anything but the right way of doing things when it comes to wiring only shrink wrap and soldering. keeps it super clean also. plus otis is the more honest dude i know he wouldnt hack things just to get it done.
homeslice
12-15-2008, 09:32 PM
^ Same here! I got my wirring done by Otis (red top into s14) everything work's good, car still running & look's clean,I still buy part's and go for him for any service i need. If i recall i belive i was there when you took your car to him. He found the problem and started your car, i remmeber you saying "you" put some anti-theft wires and other junk. and after that the car didnt start. Idk dude sounds like your taking this a lil to far than you should, and from what i witnessed its not to legit what your saying on here.
here's the work he did on my car. Tell me that dosent look legit??http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa158/CindiiiMindy/Martin/enginebay.jpg
majuljo
12-15-2008, 09:38 PM
im sry to hear this man and from your pictures it seems you have reason but im here just to post what i know about otis. he has always helped me with my car. never once has he done what you say he has done(not saying he did or didnt do what your saying). my wiring harness was poop when i bought it from a guy who did it himself. it actually caught on fire from the battery.
i only heard good things about otis so i gave him a call and he actually came to my house which i live about an hour and a half away from his shop. it took him about 3-4 hours to fix my wiring harness and it was back to normal. i also bought my radiator off his website and again it works great. havent had a problem.
i know what happened to sucks huge giant elephant balls man and im sure a lot of us know the feeling and im not here to bad mouth you and call you a liar because obviouslly something is wrong. im just here to tell you my case with otis and my personal opinion is that i trust otis with my car.
SR20DET_RPS13
12-15-2008, 10:00 PM
IDK about this I've know otis for a while and he has been worked on my car. I haven't had a bad job from him, infacthe fixed some problems vildini din't fix on my car. I've Been buying parts from him and have been getting good pricves one them. This doesn't sound likle Otis.
I dont know hwat happen to your car bro, you probably got a bad rb20 because i havent had problems with him nor my car. Good luck, hope you get it fix
carlosncdi
12-15-2008, 10:05 PM
^ Same here! I got my wirring done by Otis (red top into s14) everything work's good, car still running & look's clean,I still buy part's and go for him for any service i need. If i recall i belive i was there when you took your car to him. He found the problem and started your car, i remmeber you saying "you" put some anti-theft wires and other junk. and after that the car didnt start. Idk dude sounds like your taking this a lil to far than you should, and from what i witnessed its not to legit what your saying on here.
here's the work he did on my car. Tell me that dosent look legit??http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa158/CindiiiMindy/Martin/enginebay.jpg
i was also there the day you took your car in. and he cant warranty something he didn't put in, correct me if i am wrong but you put in your own body harness in, and at other shop that i know of don't warranty something that they didn't do. i have had a lot of work done by Otis and never had a problem. every shop has there goods and bad, but its not cool how everyone is talk shit and most of the people talking shit have never got work done by Otis or his shop.
PacificDrift_Nick
12-15-2008, 10:52 PM
before i post i just want to say i have meet Karl and he is a cool dude.
I know Otis and he is a cool dude as well.
Otis did my RB20 swap and it is clean and runs very well, i have had problems with my car that have nothing to do with the swap and he has gone out of his way to fix my car!
My car kept dying after about a week after my swap and i had no clue why and looked at all the main stuff and no luck. Otis drove to eagle rock from the OC at like 9 at night and found out that my fuel pump plug was truing on and off when it was not in some perfect place. he fixed it right there.
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/delishnick/DSC_0817.jpg
This is my car.
I buy my parts from Otis and I bring my car him all the time.
I'm sorry to hear about the fighting and all the shiz that is going down between you two cause you both are sick guys!
if you want me help you guys talk or get in communication LMK!
damn 240 and there electricity problems :bash:
Nick
karl wasabi
12-16-2008, 03:21 AM
Thanks for all your posts guys. As far as his wiring being super clean and all, not once did he have a soldering iron or shrink wrap near the car. Just butt connectors and black tape.
If he is such a legit person and business man, why won't he fix my car or gaurantee his wiring?
I had a bad CHASSIS harness. In order to get the chassis harness out I had to cut exactly 3 wires...3. If the harness was done correctly the first time, there wouldn't have been any engine problems when I brought the car back for him to fix the wiring. He re-spliced the engine harness into the chassis harness and the car started. Mind you it BARELY started. It required so much work to get it running. If the engine wiring was done correctly the first time, the motor would have ran perfectly when the harness was re-spliced.
The fact is that it didn't. I asked Otis to get the car running properly, but he wouldn't do it because I cut those 3 wires to get that old chassis harness out after Otis told me before that I could bring the car back once I got the chassis harness fixed.
Otis didn't gaurantee the wiring. How can a CHASSIS harness affect the way a motor runs???
Do you guys see my point? And I have tried to resolve this problem, but he just ignores all my PM's and calls.
khmerguy618
12-16-2008, 11:36 AM
I met otis before he seemed aite. He does lag on txt msgs and fone calls tho.
I think it was posted that he did take it to the source and was denied the service they agreed on. And the op stated that the person in question has been avoiding his fone calls and pm's.
It would be nice to see a amicable resolution to this.
racepar1
12-16-2008, 11:41 AM
Otis is not someone I would trust. He has had a somewhat bad reputation for a long time. A customer of mine bought what was supposed to be a s-14 KA 5-speed trans off him, you know the one with the hole for the crank sensor on the bellhousing. Well it was actually a singlecam trans, which doesn't have the crank sensor, and my customer didn't know any better. The trans was also noisy and generally shitty, I KNOW, I INSTALLED it. Otis charged top dollar for it and was un-willing to do anything to remedy the situation. Now the poor guy is driving around with a noisy ass trans and a check engine light for the crank sensor that we couldn't re-install.
HillaBean13
12-16-2008, 02:08 PM
Otis did my full build. My car runs absolutely amazing. he got me a hook up on a full kit and body work and paint he went out of his way numerous amounts of time to help me get my car up and running. Honestly everyone can talk all the crap they want on how terrible he is. but if he is really as terrible as you say he is and his work sucks as bad as you guys say it does then why is the drift alliance doing business with him huh??
socal_kouki
12-16-2008, 04:04 PM
^ Real Sh*t. It made me laugh out loud when Otis called me a kid in my thread.
I was never around for the days of unity. Back when I thought my uncle was whack for driving a Cressida. He laughed and told me I was too late back in '05. He was right now I'm being called a kid by skaters in peach fuzz, getting jacked for my money and picked on in forums.
Karl, I hope Otis takes SOME responsibility for the harness issue and redeems himself as a businessman and platform enthusiast..
Best of luck.
boogerlovers
12-16-2008, 04:51 PM
Good prices and has never done me wrong.
Dirt Nasty
12-16-2008, 07:25 PM
My friend bought a s14 starter for his DOHC, Otis gave him a s13 starter... said they were the same. They ARE the same starter but not the same size!
I installed it for him and realized wtf this is a s13 starter. So he drove all the way back from los angeles to Anaheim(whever disneyland is near) and Otis exhanged it.
He could of been a total ass and just said naw, sales a sale. But still he gave him the wrong starter in the first place.. So I dunno
Id rather just do the work myself, and if its something I dont know, Id ask Bardabe.
DataXUnknown
12-16-2008, 07:31 PM
This is such a confusing thread. First of all...Otis has an official SHOP now?? I haven't seen/spoken to him in awhile, but last time I checked he had a buncha engines and cars at his HOUSE and in his backyard. Which, looking from the work at his house, the stuff that he had finished and was working on looked decent. The prices he charged weren't super crazy or anything, I would say average.
Although I heard he fired all his "workers" and now it's just Otis Performance. From the looks of it, I can say that I am more on the "he's professional when he wants to be and gets into it, and at other times he is lazy and half-ass" side. Which I understand because I am the same way, but only because it's my own car. With other peoples cars you can't be half ass. I mean, even I know not to use butt connectors and wood screws like that.
Although I do have to point out that comment that somone quoted "We got it running, just not properly" my god that is one of the funniest lines I've ever heard. You shouldn't get paid for something you didn't do right. I think Otis should have gotten everything running right and working then made him pay. I totally understand the situation of being 19 and not having any money.
Good luck Karl, and I really hope Otis comes around and sorts things out. Don't let it get you too fired up, keep your head up and things will come around and your car will be running right.
Charlie
12-16-2008, 07:37 PM
I tried to do business with Otis a while back but he ignored my messages and such and that just left a bad impression to me.
karl wasabi
12-17-2008, 12:30 AM
Wow. I leave this thread for 24 hours and all this craziness happens? Thanks for everyones support and words once again. In no way am I trying to bash this shop or name call or anything like that. If you read my posts, you would know that I made this thread to INFORM people of the work that was done on my car. MINE. Not anyone elses. I could really care less.
After all of the drama you have caused, and your approach to the whole situation along with your buddies comments, you really think he would consider giving you a refund? You should have gone to his shop in person and settled your score with him there. NOT on a forum like some highschool kid. A review is one thing, but all the bad mouthing on all of your parts and yes I admit even Otis is uncalled for but what do you expect, this situation shouldnt have gotten to where it is. Sad to say Otis/Rb performance will always have business whether or not its from you and your 5 buddies backing all of your posts. Otis has gone more than out of his way for me plenty of times, along with about 9 other other customers I have sent his way, I have sent Dealer cars from my old nissan dealership there and have gotten compliments from my service manager. The place might not look pretty at times, but there are few shops that look immaculate nowadays, Allthe work I have seen has been excellent. I did not see karls car so I cannot comment but I think there is more to it, than what is being said. Karl my advice is you go see Otis and talk to him in person, and see what you can work out, like a professional and grown ass man that you are or claim to be.
That's fantastic man. I'm really happy Otis hooked you up with a properly running car.
If you actually read the thread, which I assume you didn't, you would know that my car hasn't been running since September. I have tried to handle this through PM's and what not, but I have just been ignored. It is now DECEMBER and this thread has finally surfaced. I contemplated writing this thread for 3 MONTHS. I NEVER wanted to write this thread. I never want to badmouth anyone's shop or anyone's work, but I thought it necessary in this situation. I never told any of my "buddies" to back me up or write in this thread. They have all done it on their own and read the thread and felt sympathy, and thought their input might help.
JXN I not trying to cause a big argument with you, Im sure Karl is a cool guy. I am just simply saying things could have been handled better. If he is such a nice guy and just wants to get his car running then he should have gone straight to the source, what is he doing running his mouth in someone elses review thread when really it has nothing to do with his car or his wiring harness, but an alternator and some shipping. I know if this happend to my car, I would be at someones shop trying to work it out. This situation is way beyond dramatic and immature. Things could have been approached better on both of their parts. anyway this is no longer my business and it never was, and I made a mistake posting in here, so I will leave it at that.
Thank you Jackson for that post. I'm blushing. haha.
WISH ONE. Did you ever read the other thread? Like completely? If you do, you will know that I didn't start any kind of shit talking or thread jacking in that thread. It was not my doing, and I did not tell anyone to intervein in that thread. Did you read my post that said:
For any persons in here discussing my car, please refrain. I do not want to start this mess in someone elses thread. I have contacted / PM'ed Steve-O-Laggins who now seems to be in charge of Q&A at RB-Otis Peformance.
socal kouki...I am sorry for this mess in your thread.
I guess not. Mind you it was one of OTIS's workers that started the shit talking...not me. After the incident I have tried to fix the situation. This was my last resort. I don't see how this thread was immature or "highschool" like in any way. Thank you for realizing your mistake in posting in this thread.
karl wasabi
12-17-2008, 01:34 AM
YES...Thank you for reminding everyone of that.
DataXUnknown
12-17-2008, 02:29 AM
Is it RB performance or is it Otis performance????
wtf plz somone tell me...and if he has an actual shop now or still does work in his backyard?
karl wasabi
12-17-2008, 02:32 AM
Is it RB performance or is it Otis performance????
wtf plz somone tell me...and if he has an actual shop now or still does work in his backyard?
The shop was originally called RB Performance, but he changed it to Otis Performance recently...I believe.
And yes, he does have what you would call a shop.
racerx2k1
12-17-2008, 07:34 AM
Merged all 5 threads and temporaly closing until I can clean out the thread.
OK,I just deleted 71 posts. Post reviews only. Any irrevelant posts will be deleted.
Thread reopened.
ObleZk
12-19-2008, 09:08 PM
I did business with Otis a while back. he used his Triple A Insurance to tow my car back to my house.(LA - Oceanside) Seems like a nice guy... that was when he was doing it out of his "Backyard" or "garage" if you will... and I will admit the atmosphere wasn't to settling. Others were drinking and being loud and whatnot, which is totally cool if I were to go there and Kick it, but If I was wanting professional work done to my car it just didn't seem like the right place. maybe now that he has an actual shop or something better then the Garage / Back yard things can get done right more often. Not that I wouldn't mind doing business with him again, I just think ill avoid it all together just in case.
But Good luck to Otis getting things back on track or whatever
And Sorry to hear that you're in that messy situation, Karl / SoCal...I probably would have taken similar actions
luckysr
12-22-2008, 07:53 PM
man iam hearing two diffrent storys i have talk to otis myself and i have done business with him for awhile now he has never f$%^&# up like that on what you have said on your wire harness and i always take my car to otis for harness wiring and dose and clean job not any half ass job
OneTekWes
01-11-2009, 01:38 AM
RB-Performance = Great experience I've been doin business with this guy for about a year now. I'm talking about analyzing the way he does business with me and others and the way he performs technical task. No he's not the best tech but anyone can turn a wrench but from what I've seen Otis is badass with diagnosis and wiring. I was shocked to meet this kid the same age as me with 240 knowledge to rival my own but I am happy with the service and pleased to see that with the new shop things are looking more professional will continue to do business with this guy. Sorry if you had a bad experience with him.
MURPHY
08-03-2009, 01:32 PM
I purchased an rb top mount exhaust manifold, and 2 silvia brick headlights off this person. one of the headlights lens is all smashed apart, a good amount of the other headlight is broken (tabs). the exhaust manifold was packaged on top of the headlights with a piece of 1/2 Styrofoam in between them. the exhaust manifold was practically coming out of the top of the box when i received it and the box looks like it was thrown together in 2 minutes. it took him 1 month in total to ship the package, after i had to open a paypal dispute with him. so for i had a horrible experience with this seller. i have yet to look but the manifold i hope isn't messed up too.
99maxgtr
09-26-2009, 09:12 PM
OK, here's my story.
So way back in may 2008, i was looking for a kaaz diff through ebay.
I see this one ad and see one for a "KAAZ SAN2655WPC 2 WAY LSD DIFFERENTIAL S14 S13 240SX" and has the listing as obo price with free shipping. so i click on it and see that the description saying something like this:
bought this brand new diff and put it into the pumpkin, found my car already had a diff so i'm selling this. never broken in yet....blah blah lbah.
so i'm like sweet deal. i also notice the seller is rb_performance. i knew that he at the time was a well known person on zilvia so i wasn't really worried at all.
BOY WAS I FUCKING WRONG.
flash to today.
my friend steve aka smelly240 calls me to inform while he was switching covers off the diff (which i hadn't opened or put on since then) was actually a welded diff and not even properly welded. pictures will be up soon.
so now i'm fucking pissed off b/c i paid 600 dollars for a p.o.s. "welded" diff.
i should have checked when i got it but i never suspected that someone could be such a scumbag.
otis if you are half a decent person please get back to me. i will kindly take back all my words if this was some sort of mistake.
oh if anyone has his number or something please let me know so i can contact him directly or try to...
WISH ONE
09-27-2009, 09:47 PM
do you have picture of the headlights that you can post I think those headlights might have been someones that I know LOL
I LUV MY S13
09-27-2009, 10:57 PM
damn im lookin into buyin an rb25...i now kno not to go to this guy
tpetrucci33
09-27-2009, 11:13 PM
Umm why do you say that?! This is one of the best shops out there!! Got my swap personally done by Otis at RB-Performance. Nothing less than Spectacular is all that needs to be said. If you need any info on him or any of his work myself and many others can vouch for him. His work speaks for itself. One of the most down to earth shops out there today. Its not all about the money to them. Its about the passion they put into their work. Most shops tend to lose that nowadays.
I LUV MY S13
09-27-2009, 11:20 PM
dude have u read this thread? take about 10 min to read pages 3 and 4
tpetrucci33
09-28-2009, 12:42 AM
Yea a shop shouldn't be held responsible for a customers "fuck ups" for lack of a better term. If it even was his fault I know he'd fix it hands down. And we all know time is money. And sometimes you should just leave it up to the pros to deal with. Still the only shop I'd EVER take my car to.
Drift N Dragg
09-28-2009, 09:39 AM
If it even was his fault I know he'd fix it hands down. And we all know time is money.
That's true to a point. I had my Car rewired by him, When I picked it up I asked the Obivious question... Can I hear it start-up and run? Did you start it... the Answer was No.. he gave me a long explaination.. I kinda understood what he said and took the car home (trailered it there and back, Mind you It's a long ass DRIVE one way)... Get it home, the next morning I put fluid in the P.S Pump, like he said to do (one of main reason's he didnt try and start it, and GUESS WHAT.. Nothing... So I called him.. after 5 hours of tring to get ahold of him he finally got back to me.. He said he would fix it for More money.. Now thats down right Jacked up...
Well I had another Fellow Zilvian come to help me out.. The Fuel pump was wired wrong, the car had wires going to the wrong places...
Now I understand that he had alot of car's in his backyard and alot of people will Give him a +1 all the time.. AND when it comes to Buying Pretty awesome parts then I will buy from Otis, But I will never take a car back to him to get Wired or Swapped.
Otis is a very Cool person, and is fun to Shoot the Shit with, But there are some things I would not go back for
Now I do not know how his business is doing now, My car was there when he was working out of his Backyard..
That's MY experience
99maxgtr
09-28-2009, 10:17 AM
lol yeah well i guess when it comes it to shipping stuff outside from locals he doesn't mind throwing shit to make some money.
i'm currently trying to get in contact with him.
let's see if he man's up.
i thought it was a bit funny that he never posted up the diff on zilvia and only on ebay. maybe now i know why....so he can't ship some p.o.s and label it and jack up the price.
to any of the people who know where his "shop" is can i get his address? pm me or what not thanks.
also don't you think it's odd that his location in his sig say's ny?
also the website he uses on his ebay account is http://www.rb-performance.co.uk
yeah...that's not fucking shady.
99maxgtr
09-28-2009, 10:23 AM
Umm why do you say that?! This is one of the best shops out there!! Got my swap personally done by Otis at RB-Performance. Nothing less than Spectacular is all that needs to be said. If you need any info on him or any of his work myself and many others can vouch for him. His work speaks for itself. One of the most down to earth shops out there today. Its not all about the money to them. Its about the passion they put into their work. Most shops tend to lose that nowadays.
dude seriously you sound like one of his lackeys.
maybe he will hook up his friends but if you read through this thread there are plenty of people who have been screwed by this guy.
tpetrucci33
09-28-2009, 11:18 AM
lol yeah well i guess when it comes it to shipping stuff outside from locals he doesn't mind throwing shit to make some money.
i'm currently trying to get in contact with him.
let's see if he man's up.
i thought it was a bit funny that he never posted up the diff on zilvia and only on ebay. maybe now i know why....so he can't ship some p.o.s and label it and jack up the price.
to any of the people who know where his "shop" is can i get his address? pm me or what not thanks.
also don't you think it's odd that his location in his sig say's ny?
also the website he uses on his ebay account is http://www.rb-performance.co.uk
yeah...that's not fucking shady.
LMAO!! You idiot, thats not his ebay account!! You got that damn diff from somebody else if you bought it from that ebayer! This website RB Performance (http://www.rb-performance.co.uk/catalog/index.php/cPath/63_65) has nothing to do with RB-Performance.net
Major fail my friend :smash:
Drift N Dragg
09-28-2009, 11:37 AM
^^ This is True, His Website is www.rb-performance.net (http://www.rb-performance.net)
99maxgtr
09-28-2009, 12:51 PM
LMAO!! You idiot, thats not his ebay account!! You got that damn diff from somebody else if you bought it from that ebayer! This website RB Performance (http://www.rb-performance.co.uk/catalog/index.php/cPath/63_65) has nothing to do with RB-Performance.net
Major fail my friend :smash:
i said, that he uses this site on his ebay account for reference.
Payment To:
Otis Dixon (The recipient of this payment is Verified)
Seller's ID:
rb_performance
Seller's Email:
[email protected]
look up rb_performance on ebay and this is what site it came up with.
i don't know if he changed it since then.
but i am 100% sure i bought it from otis.
i even remember calling him to get a tracking number b/c it was like 2 weeks and nothing.
like i said it's been a while, i had to go through my paypal history and search over a year to find the transaction.
oh genius did you actually try going to the website rb-performance.net?????
it goes to http://stickfigurebooks.com/
so hmmmm i wonder...
if he is so great he'd man up and try to settle this right. instead of getting his "crew" to fight for him.
99maxgtr
09-29-2009, 01:33 PM
of course no pick up or answers, texted and left vm's.
i hope karma get's back at him and he get's shit 10x worse.
scammer's are thieves and any thief deserves punishment.
fuck him, i hope he get's ass raped by a gorilla, and to anyone that is going to back him up you can stop trying to defend someone that screwed over 1 too many people. just b/c he's cool with you doesn't mean he is a legit guy. i can care less he hooked you up blah lbha lbah shit is weak.
so save your comments.
99maxgtr
09-29-2009, 06:50 PM
Oh and you know what's funny about this whole thing is.
I'm the victim here and your the one giving me threats?
Where the fuck do you get off.
Dumb fuck yes let me come to your "hood" and you show me tough guy how you do things.
Here's a deal.
Tell your buddy to pay me the money he owes me and ill buy a ticket over there.
I'm already heated about getting screwed but your really adding fuel to the fire.
God damn you've got some nerve.
99maxgtr
10-02-2009, 08:25 PM
just an update of what happened.
otis finally text's me back. i tell him what happened. he sounds sympathetic.
he tells me that this happened when rb performance was around and he was not at fault and it was one of his partners. ok so anyways he says that he's willing to pay for half and get the other half from his partner. he asks for the paypal info etc.
today he texts me and says that he saw what i wrote on here.
granted i already told him that i wrote a bad review on the forum and now he wasn't going to help me. big suprise.
oh and icing on the cake.
he tells me not to call or text him anymore otherwise he'll get the cops on me.
LOL i'm done i said have a nice life and that karma is a bitch.
he had his chance to clear his name which i said that i was willing to take everything back and apologize for.
my opinions on him haven't changed. fuck scammers and fuck otis.
peace.
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