View Full Version : SoCal Fix-It Ticket.
Suk02Si
01-14-2008, 04:03 PM
I scored a Fix-it ticket a while back for not having license plate lights. The cops were cool about it and didn't hassle me for anything else.
My deadline is the end of this week. I'm just worried that they might get me for something else on the car, or not write of this ticket because of something else. A buddy went to CHP to have his front plate ticket written off. They wouldn't sign it off because he had tint on his front windows. :-/
I can pick up a truck and trailer from U-Haul and tow the car, but would it make a difference? Has anyone else been hassled for other items while trying to write off a Fix-it ticket?
HWYKING
01-14-2008, 05:25 PM
edit: i read this wrong, have you removed the bulbs completely? or are they just not working? if they arent working just replace them and visit local CHP station and they should sign off for you. i doubt theyd want to be jerks and try to hassle you for anything else. good luck
brndck
01-14-2008, 05:32 PM
unless the officer decides to go out of his way to be a dick, you should be able to just go to chp and have them sign it off. i got a ticket awhile ago for my headlights being too dim (i had silvia bricks) and the officer didn't even leave the desk. he just told me to turn the lights on (he could see my front end from his desk) and then he signed it off. so good luck, you should be ok.
DUFFM4N
01-14-2008, 06:04 PM
you'll be fine...ur friend was prolly being a dick to the officer who was writting off his ticket...because ive taken my car to the Sherriff station or CHP and their only concern should be the infraction listed on the ticket...and pluss u wont know until you try, worse thing they tell u is "no"
Suk02Si
01-14-2008, 06:45 PM
edit: i read this wrong, have you removed the bulbs completely? or are they just not working? if they arent working just replace them and visit local CHP station and they should sign off for you. i doubt theyd want to be jerks and try to hassle you for anything else. good luck
I'm not worried about the lights themselves, I've already fixed them. I'm just worried that they may hassle me for my exhaust, motor, etc...
Its &80 to rent a truck and trailer, but I doubt it'll make a difference. I'll just drive it in.
BTW, my buddy wasn't being a dick to the officer when he went. It was for his Astro van too, not a 240.
ALEXTHESUS*PECT
01-14-2008, 07:11 PM
should be a routine sign off. take 5 minutes and you're out.
eli_eli
01-14-2008, 08:20 PM
what you can also do for these types of tickets is stop a CHP officer and have him sign off the ticket for you if you got it fixed and then show that to the court, i am not sure if the police can sign it off for you, but i know CHP can....i just recently got another no-front plate ticket
1five10
01-14-2008, 09:19 PM
Go to the Westminster CHP office and park right in front of the door. They probably won't even get off their ass to sign off on the front license plate because they'll see it from where they're sitting.
Regarding the front tinted windows, just roll your windows down because they definitely won't ask you to roll them up to see if they are tinted or not...
DALAZ_68
01-14-2008, 11:06 PM
key things from experience
return to stock suspension...some are dicks and they see some crazy green color (TIEN) or red (KYB) theyll get u for that too
remove front window tint... obvious reason
add cat to exaust...homie took his car to be signed off on the tint he removed...got another fix it for his straight pipe...assholes
just shit from experience u know :)
Suk02Si
01-14-2008, 11:53 PM
key things from experience
return to stock suspension...some are dicks and they see some crazy green color (TIEN) or red (KYB) theyll get u for that too
remove front window tint... obvious reason
add cat to exaust...homie took his car to be signed off on the tint he removed...got another fix it for his straight pipe...assholes
just shit from experience u know :)
That's what I'm worried about. There's no way for me to replace anything with stock pieces. My front windows aren't tinted, my buddies were. He rolled up with his Astro van to get his front plate ticket written off, they told him to roll up his windows, saw they were tinted, and didn't sign off his plate ticket.
Thanks for the heads up guys, we'll see what happens.
Teddy
01-14-2008, 11:56 PM
I got a fix it for my headlight in November, I'm due by next week as well, so I've been holding off all of my mods until I get it signed off, just to be on the safe side. I don't think towing it is going to make a difference though.
DALAZ_68
01-15-2008, 12:07 AM
I got a fix it for my headlight in November, I'm due by next week as well, so I've been holding off all of my mods until I get it signed off, just to be on the safe side. I don't think towing it is going to make a difference though.
u can if u tell them its not running...they might ask u to start it...alll my homie did was take off his spark plugs so it sounding like turning over but no go...
they didnt bother asking ot pop the hood
eli_eli
01-15-2008, 01:48 AM
That's what I'm worried about. There's no way for me to replace anything with stock pieces. My front windows aren't tinted, my buddies were. He rolled up with his Astro van to get his front plate ticket written off, they told him to roll up his windows, saw they were tinted, and didn't sign off his plate ticket.
Thanks for the heads up guys, we'll see what happens.
i still say ur better off getting a CHP to sign it off for you out on the road, now that i heard so many people getting busted by going to the office, now i am kinda worried too :ugh:
DALAZ_68
01-15-2008, 10:52 AM
i still say ur better off getting a CHP to sign it off for you out on the road, now that i heard so many people getting busted by going to the office, now i am kinda worried too :ugh:
maybe...but if ur ticket has the white sticker on the back...its state ref or nothing...
or u could just pay the fine i think
HWYKING
01-15-2008, 12:09 PM
should be a routine sign off. take 5 minutes and you're out.
yeap. just be as polite as possible and they should just check to see that you fixed the issue. if he asks why they were out, just tell him the car had a short and now its fixed. they have better things to worry about. let us know how it goes.
Suk02Si
01-18-2008, 09:23 PM
So everything went to complete shit.
He saw the exhaust and asked me if anything else was modified. He told me that my car was a "typical street racing vehicle" and asked to pop my hood. One look and he called another officer to inspect it further. After whispering some sweet nothings and a little cock swinging, they decided to hand me a Referee ticket as a gift. Then they noticed the interior and looked at the VIN. They called a Vin Inspector to check it out, he told them to impound the car.
I'm assuming they think its stolen. I have a newer black dash, not the original feces-encrusted dash that was in the car. The VIN number "looked to be tampered with". Even though the firewall VIN and door jam VIN are original and not tampered with, they decided to keep the car for inspection.
The first officer got in my car, and drove it to the impound lot in the back. The one thing that pissed me off the most, was the fact that he felt compelled to redline the car three times from a cold start, to hear the motor and exhaust. He then proceeded to drive straight out of the lot, smashing my bumper in the process. He then made a right turn and decided to punch it in first gear.. lift.. then punch it again.
MLK day is Monday, so the office is closed. The inebriated ferrets that inspected my car don't know what the next step is. I have to call and speak to their inspection officer on Tuesday.
I acted mature, cooperative, and polite. In the end, one of the officers was somewhat sympathetic. Regardless, I still want to physically hurt someone.
I don't street race. I don't drift on the street. I always take it to the track. But in their eyes, I'm just some punk ass street racer that promotes global warming and vehicular manslaughter.
gotta240
01-18-2008, 11:04 PM
WOW. I'm sorry to hear about such a shitty experience. Where exactly did you take it?
T H I S is the reason so many people bash police and the law. I'm not exactly one to bash the law at all times, but this GIVES GOOD REASON TO.
Damn that sucks are you running a KA? You should have just told him your exhuast meets the db level and talked him in to just giving you another ticket. It seems he just went to town after he saw an exhuast and if your car wasn't running then dayum!
BTW what station did you go to so no one else will pull up and meet the same fate.
Suk02Si
01-18-2008, 11:21 PM
CHP station in Altadena off Arroyo. The car has an SR, FMIC, Straight 3" fence pole exhaust
Correct me if i'm wrong but your car was impounded due to the VIN appearing to be tampered?
Suk02Si
01-19-2008, 01:03 AM
Correct me if i'm wrong but your car was impounded due to the VIN appearing to be tampered?
Its iffy.. they were going to impound it first because of the SR + other mods, but they were talking about it amongst themselves for a few mins, were thinking of letting me drive it home. Then one officer started peeking inside the car more because of the cage.
Teddy
01-19-2008, 01:12 AM
Wow, on a scale from 1 to 10, thats pretty gay. I can't wait for Tuesday to come when I get to go pay them a visit. Woopie.
Suk02Si
01-19-2008, 01:20 AM
Just ask them if they have lube. I didn't and it still hurts.
kdashy
01-19-2008, 01:31 AM
Wow, that is the worst outcome ive ever heard from trying to get a fix it ticket written off.
Ever other time ive heard, the CHP just wants to get you out of there.
gripstr
01-19-2008, 01:36 AM
Prolly some new recruits.......
Good luck with it man and keep us updated.
MrChow
01-19-2008, 01:55 AM
Shiet that sucks!
240on430
01-19-2008, 02:04 AM
damn, I thought I had it had when I waited about 30 minutes for a cop I. A squad car to meet me infront of the station. He signed it off after writing some shit down.
He crashed your car and redlined it???
240on430
01-19-2008, 02:07 AM
damn, I thought I had it bad when I waited about 30 minutes for a cop I. A squad car to meet me infront of the station. He signed it off after writing some shit down.
He crashed your car and redlined it???
Suk02Si
01-19-2008, 03:49 AM
damn, I thought I had it bad when I waited about 30 minutes for a cop I. A squad car to meet me infront of the station. He signed it off after writing some shit down.
He crashed your car and redlined it???
haha no, he didn't crash it. He just drove it straight out of the lot. The car is pretty low, so there went my bumper. He probably didn't know how to drive... turbo car+welded diff=not cool for noobs. When he probably didn't know how to modulate the throttle.
*full throttle like a crown vic*
*tire spin* "agh oops"
*lift*
repeat
gotta240
01-19-2008, 09:39 AM
I would SPEAK TO an attorney and see what can be done. You may
1. get out of any additional tickets (your car wasn't moving or on when the cops were there, was it?
2. Possibly(kinda doubt it) get reimbursed for damage to car and hopefully get a douche bag in trouble.
Suk02Si
01-19-2008, 10:12 AM
I would SPEAK TO an attorney and see what can be done. You may
1. get out of any additional tickets (your car wasn't moving or on when the cops were there, was it?
2. Possibly(kinda doubt it) get reimbursed for damage to car and hopefully get a douche bag in trouble.
Another buddy suggested the same thing, legal action. Bottom line, they can do what they want. It sucks, but there are ways around everything and I'm sure they're legally well protected.
The thing that's been bugging me the most is what they may do to the car during their "inspection". A few years ago I had another friend that had his car impounded. They had his car for over a month, when he got his car back, he noticed they had pulled the motor and even pulled the head off the motor. They said it was required because they needed to verify that the motor, and parts inside the motor, weren't stolen.
brndck
01-19-2008, 10:12 AM
wow. that effing sucks. thats like the worst possible outcome. if i was you you should immediately get those officers badge numbers and demand in writing the vehicle codes you were allegedly violating and then consider contacting a lawyer.
I would SPEAK TO an attorney and see what can be done. You may
1. get out of any additional tickets (your car wasn't moving or on when the cops were there, was it?
2. Possibly(kinda doubt it) get reimbursed for damage to car and hopefully get a douche bag in trouble.
I see where your coming from but he drove the car there and he had to drive it back so I doubt that will stick. You should have stalled starting it, in hopes he woud just sign it off or you could come back another time.
Could Should Would is irrelavent now. Just go down again when they open and hope noone else touched it and ask them can you just take your car back to get it ready to pass the ref.
Teddy
01-19-2008, 03:06 PM
This makes me want to raise my car before I go over there now, since I've already been pulled over twice for having a lowered car.
Anywho, I hope it works out for you man. I hope your car doesn't get raped.
S13Boosts
01-19-2008, 05:49 PM
thats sucks, i hate fix it's
eli_eli
01-19-2008, 06:19 PM
Another buddy suggested the same thing, legal action. Bottom line, they can do what they want. It sucks, but there are ways around everything and I'm sure they're legally well protected.
The thing that's been bugging me the most is what they may do to the car during their "inspection". A few years ago I had another friend that had his car impounded. They had his car for over a month, when he got his car back, he noticed they had pulled the motor and even pulled the head off the motor. They said it was required because they needed to verify that the motor, and parts inside the motor, weren't stolen.
SHIT!!! i am so sorry to hear that about your car man, hopefully it doesnt get striped at the impound, i have a friend who it happened to, but hopefully its not at a regular impound, but as far as the REF ticket that sucks man, i hope they give you the car back and set up a different date for inspection because in that case there is a solution for that, it happened to my best friend in LA and he did write up a thread how to go about it...i am gonna edit my post as soon as i find it, sorry to hear once again man and best of luck...
edit* ok i found it, but it wasnt a complete thread about it, he just gave someone advice, but let me know if you need any help further, cause this really sucks man, hope this helps
to clear your ticket do the following.. sell the car to someone you know.. put a date like 3 weeks before the time you got the ticket.. that should cost you no more then $25 buck.. this is all of course after and if the ticket comes in, then go to judge and explain car was sold before you had gotten pulled over.. he will just make you pay the fine "around $300-400" and you're done.. transfer it back to yourself.. yes its expensive but at the same time it isnt what you would have to do to make it pass at the ref..
eli
Suk02Si
01-20-2008, 09:19 PM
Thanks for the heads up eli_eli, I've heard that trick used a ton of times. From what I remember, the state has heard of it too and that trick doesn't seem to work anymore.
At this point, I'm willing to accept the fact that I cannot register the car anymore. It will be registered as non-op, and I will trailer it to the track. I only use it on the track as it is, now the only problem is trying to find the money to buy a truck and trailer.
I just hope they don't hand my car over to me in a paper bag.
Teddy
01-20-2008, 09:36 PM
Damn son. All of this for not having plate lights..
gripstr
01-22-2008, 04:27 PM
Whats the update on this?
sillydrift
01-22-2008, 07:01 PM
man that sucks, thats why im kind of hesitating swaping an sr in my s14,
good luck, hopefully you get your car complete
brndck
01-22-2008, 07:11 PM
it really really sucks but more and more i'm considering doing the same thing; having another dd and just keeping my car "track only" or the rare meet-up. it's almost not worth the hassle or the paranoia. i'm constantly worried about my car either being stolen or having my hood popped. fuck. now i know how honda dudes have felt for the last decade.
driftcardotnet
01-22-2008, 07:22 PM
first off, bringing it on a trailer looks more suspicious than driving the car, kinda like running to hide when a cop drives by. secondly, i have never tried to stop a chp, but they haven't tried to stop me either. i've seen them stop other people though.
UNISA JECS
01-22-2008, 07:26 PM
Thats sucks man, got me wondering how you go about the "legal" way of changing your dash and replacing your VIN plate, I have swaped my dash but I also removed the previous owners VIN off of my dash.
Teddy
01-22-2008, 07:45 PM
This is making me lean towards selling off my turbo now, and just throwing all of my money into my next car, making my 240 my DD
ericcastro
01-22-2008, 08:09 PM
any news today Gary?? can you just get it back and swap a Ka engine back in to pass Ref??
Im sure we could get a couple of us together to do it??
Suk02Si
01-23-2008, 04:35 AM
any news today Gary?? can you just get it back and swap a Ka engine back in to pass Ref??
Im sure we could get a couple of us together to do it??
My g/f spoke to the VIN inspector today and was told that if everything checked out 'OK', then he'll stamp the VIN verification on the dash and release the car.
I still have to worry about the state ref, the car will never pass, so I won't even try. Even if I swap a SOHC back in, it will be difficult to pass. It has to have all the emissions equipment in place, the way it was when it rolled off the showroom floor.
From what I've been told, I can just pay the bail amount since its the first time. if I pay it, then it clears the ticket and I can still drive the car. I'll give the inspector a call tomorrow to see if it can be released.
UNISA JECS
01-23-2008, 10:35 AM
My g/f spoke to the VIN inspector today and was told that if everything checked out 'OK', then he'll stamp the VIN verification on the dash and release the car.
I still have to worry about the state ref, the car will never pass, so I won't even try. Even if I swap a SOHC back in, it will be difficult to pass. It has to have all the emissions equipment in place, the way it was when it rolled off the showroom floor.
From what I've been told, I can just pay the bail amount since its the first time. if I pay it, then it clears the ticket and I can still drive the car. I'll give the inspector a call tomorrow to see if it can be released.
Hey if you can ask the VIN inspector if its possible to go see him before you get pulled over becasue I got another dash with no VIN however I have my old VIN plate still and its in my glove box, or maybe a phone number because I hate other people to take my car from me and molest it, expecialy cops, I have a few Sheriff and PD friends which are cool as fuck but thats just them.
Suk02Si
01-23-2008, 12:50 PM
Hey if you can ask the VIN inspector if its possible to go see him before you get pulled over becasue I got another dash with no VIN however I have my old VIN plate still and its in my glove box, or maybe a phone number because I hate other people to take my car from me and molest it, expecialy cops, I have a few Sheriff and PD friends which are cool as fuck but thats just them.
When I get a hold of the inspector, I'll ask for you.
BTW, this is the infraction that they wrote on the impound slip: V.C. 10751
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d04/vc10751.htm
:confused:
UNISA JECS
01-23-2008, 01:06 PM
When I get a hold of the inspector, I'll ask for you.
BTW, this is the infraction that they wrote on the impound slip: V.C. 10751
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d04/vc10751.htm
:confused:
Thanks, it appears here you need to get approval to do so from I assume teh DMV or someone as per V.C. 10750
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d04/vc10750.htm
UNISA JECS
01-23-2008, 01:17 PM
When I get a hold of the inspector, I'll ask for you.
BTW, this is the infraction that they wrote on the impound slip: V.C. 10751
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d04/vc10751.htm
:confused:
What sucks is that the VIN still exist on the door jam sticker, it is inscribed on the firewall passanger side and then there is a metal I.D. card on teh firewall as well, im sure they were just being dicks becasue they can.
UNISA JECS
01-23-2008, 01:28 PM
Well I called the DMV and they said I need to bring my car down and then they will verify that the vehicle is legit or what not and then either reassign a VIN or RE-VIN the original vin plate or what not, the imprtant thing here is that you get something done that is legally recognizable to any cop that may pull you over is my main mission, fuck paying for impound fee's let alone having someone else drive yoru car, fuck that.
DUFFM4N
01-23-2008, 01:30 PM
my friend gets ref tickets all the time...he just pays the fine, pricey but he doesnt wanna spend the money to pass ref...he figures it just evens out
Suk02Si
01-23-2008, 03:02 PM
my friend gets ref tickets all the time...he just pays the fine, pricey but he doesnt wanna spend the money to pass ref...he figures it just evens out
How much is the fine?
DUFFM4N
01-23-2008, 03:20 PM
i think he said his very first one was around $400...you can always take the ticket down to the courthouse window and have them pull it up and check how much the fine is
eli_eli
01-23-2008, 04:02 PM
i think he said his very first one was around $400...you can always take the ticket down to the courthouse window and have them pull it up and check how much the fine is
i heard the fine is $400 if you do what i recomended, but you never know...that would be a good case scenario...worth a try
cisco(K.i.S.)
01-23-2008, 04:32 PM
just today. cop pulled up behind me waited for me to pull into the intersection an...pulled back about 30 feet maby and hit the lights.
so you know why i pulled you over...
cuz mai car is bad ass!!
i herd your muffler over fifty feet...
i got a fix-it ticket because my muffler can be herd over fifty feet...wat the hell...
brndck
01-23-2008, 06:50 PM
thats arbitrary and bullshit. check what the v.c. # he wrote you up for. according to the dmv website (v.c. 38370) you're required to be under 82 db at 50 feet. you have the option of buying a db meter (they're about $40 at radioshack) and you can contest it. if you're in compliance you can prove so. however, most of us are not, especially with the style of exhausts many of us run. but just cuz he can hear you doesn't mean that you aren't in compliance with the law.
gripstr
01-24-2008, 02:15 AM
i think he said his very first one was around $400...you can always take the ticket down to the courthouse window and have them pull it up and check how much the fine is
I believe its also a 2 point penalty on your records :coolugh:
Suk02Si
01-24-2008, 06:43 PM
I believe its also a 2 point penalty on your records :coolugh:
So the car is done and I can pick it up tomorrow. I also asked about dash changes.. he said you have to bring the car in to CHP before you change the dash, and bring the new dash with you. The VIN inspector will approve the new dash and stamp it with an approval plate.
gripstr
01-25-2008, 01:00 PM
So the car is done and I can pick it up tomorrow. I also asked about dash changes.. he said you have to bring the car in to CHP before you change the dash, and bring the new dash with you. The VIN inspector will approve the new dash and stamp it with an approval plate.
So you are clear on the engine?
Suk02Si
01-25-2008, 08:29 PM
I just got home from the CHP station, my bitch is back in the garage. The engine isn't in the clear, only the VIN issue has been cleared. I still have a Ref ticket to deal with. :-/
DreamN
01-25-2008, 10:52 PM
^ damn dude, sucks you're going through all this bullshit just to be able to drive you car. hopefully it all turns out well in the end. can't you register your car as a track car which allows you to drive the car as long as you're going to and from the track? i remember being told or having read something similar to that. if so you wouldn't need to purchase a truck and trailer, just a nice daily.
Suk02Si
01-26-2008, 12:06 AM
I've never heard of that type of registration, only Non-Op. I'll look into it though!
DreamN
01-26-2008, 12:12 AM
Or maybe I'm thinking about custom/kit car registration...
kikit-sideways
01-26-2008, 09:45 AM
yeah it is to bad, my homie just got a ticket for his exhaust, the shty part about it was that there was a fixed up nova next to him at the light, both of them were equally loud, and he is the one that was pulled over, i guess the cop wasnt an import fan, shame shame, so now its a fix it. i love cali!
DataXUnknown
01-27-2008, 01:34 PM
My friend got pulled over last night. It was raining hard, and he has a welded diff. He slipped a little bit (not even noticing) and the cop pulled him over. He had his helment in his passenger seat and the cop was questioning if he was a street racer and all that. He ended up giving him a warning for the "slip" and gave him a ticket for his "modified exhaust" (apexi N1 full catback).
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