FLipping A - not again.

[racer98]

http://www.10news.com/news/14145574/detail.html#


:axe: :axe: :axe: :axe: :whip:

[azndoc]

Gang$tur.

At lea$t it $aid that citation$ were in$$ued.

[k's_silvia2.0]

Sd sucks!!!
nuff said.

[Bobafreak]

hahaha its been going on here in the 909 montclair area they struck 2 days in a row.

[!Zar!]

Dare I $ay.

Glad I live in norcal.

[kaotic]

wow.. california has too much money.. they should donate some to our school districts..

[ericcastro]

Profiling?

violation of civil rights anyone??

someone call the ACLU !!!

[HyperTek]

i wonder if joining law enforcement as a career might help you get away with doing whatever you want to your car since you are the ultimate connection.. hmmm something to think about lol

damm tempted to join the police so i could get away wiht it lol.. u know.. hide behind the badge lol

[tknbkthrsdy4anfg]

$ounds like $ocal i$ $tarting to $uck.
hahahahahaha

[racer98]

Profiling?

violation of civil rights anyone??

someone call the ACLU !!!

thanks I think that sounds like a plan.

[projectRDM]

I think it's a great idea. Whether you agree with the law or not, it is the law.

[fliprayzin240sx]

So i wonder if they caught any tuners...dont sound like it. If they had a civic in the picture, id say pwnage...

[thedecapitator]

i wonder if joining law enforcement as a career might help you get away with doing whatever you want to your car since you are the ultimate connection.. hmmm something to think about lol

damm tempted to join the police so i could get away wiht it lol.. u know.. hide behind the badge lol

im headed that road to be a pig :]
i will stop you speeding assholes on the street whenever i see a 240sx and check under the hood for those engine swaps :rant: and then tell you to kindly rev it and let you go with a big :bigok:

[Matej]

So they only stopped vehicles that looked like they won't pass the test? Wow, I wonder if they caught a lot of schoolbuses and 18-wheelers.

[ericcastro]

I think it's a great idea. Whether you agree with the law or not, it is the law.

thats the point, its not "the Law".

its a violation of your civil rights. Just like road side sobriety checks are.

They need to have "cause" to pull you over, run your ID on the sidewalk, or search you here in the states.

SoCal is becoming more and more of a police state :(
and BTW, I would avoid BurBank area if you drive a tuner.

I got a ticket for modified exhaust at 8AM thursday morning on the corner of the court house. I showed the officers that I had my exhaust signed off at 3PM the previous wednesday, and they didnt care. popped the hood(its all stock SOHC), searched the car, threatened to have it taken and the engine and car vin#'s checked (after I told them the engine was a rebuild).
Then they proceeded to give me a ticket for no Tabs, (I have the red #1 paper in the window,exempting me from tabs till its finished registration), and a tint ticket.
3 violations, 2 of which i had proof they were fine right there!!
And law enforcement wonders why they put a sour taste in peoples mouth.

[GoodOl'S13]

So they only stopped vehicles that looked like they won't pass the test? Wow, I wonder if they caught a lot of schoolbuses and 18-wheelers.
Probably not, being that diesel powered vehicles are smog exempt.

[murda-c]

thats the point, its not "the Law".

its a violation of your civil rights. Just like road side sobriety checks are.

They need to have "cause" to pull you over, run your ID on the sidewalk, or search you here in the states.

SoCal is becoming more and more of a police state :(
and BTW, I would avoid BurBank area if you drive a tuner.

I got a ticket for modified exhaust at 8AM thursday morning on the corner of the court house. I showed the officers that I had my exhaust signed off at 3PM the previous wednesday, and they didnt care. popped the hood(its all stock SOHC), searched the car, threatened to have it taken and the engine and car vin#'s checked (after I told them the engine was a rebuild).
Then they proceeded to give me a ticket for no Tabs, (I have the red #1 paper in the window,exempting me from tabs till its finished registration), and a tint ticket.
3 violations, 2 of which i had proof they were fine right there!!
And law enforcement wonders why they put a sour taste in peoples mouth.

From what i have seen on these forums and the people i have talked to about how to get past emissions, having a tuner car with an exhaust is probable cause for a smog check.

Because a large portion of them aren't smog legal.

[Pank]

since they test on a dyno, i wonder if you could slip them a few extra bucks and have them do some test pulls and hook your wideband up.

cheap tuning ftw

[PhilVia]

GREAT!
my phobia feeling is coming back and i thought hawaii's friday night road block was bad ....

[PhilthyS13]

i wonder if joining law enforcement as a career might help you get away with doing whatever you want to your car since you are the ultimate connection.. hmmm something to think about lol

damm tempted to join the police so i could get away wiht it lol.. u know.. hide behind the badge lol

If you were to get hired, I don't think you'd want to lose your job fraudulently smogging your car. I don't think it would be worth it.

[OptionZero]

wow.. california has too much money.. they should donate some to our school districts..

Much of the waste in educational spending occurs at the county level, not the state. Arnold can shovel money into the educational budget all he wants, but if Supervisor X decides to give himself a raise every time, the kids are still screwed.

Multiple choice tests are also a collossal waste of time, but I disgress.

[Aeroscraper326]

$hit $uck$ $uper $ucky.

May i ask why you use dollar $ign$ a$ $'$

[trsilvias13]

since they test on a dyno, i wonder if you could slip them a few extra bucks and have them do some test pulls and hook your wideband up.

cheap tuning ftw


smog dyno are only rated for like 100 or 200hp, not a lot. It suppose to simulate runs from certain mph (25 iirc) and test for emission. My friend owns a shop and when the govt initial smog up in norcal, we sort of put a 400hp car on it for run, burnt out the motor and call the warrenty guy for repair.

[thedecapitator]

$ .

May i ask why you use dollar $ a$ $'$

probably because his "s" key doesnt work idunno:keke:

[dirtdiggler666]

waaaaaaaaaaaay back my cousin had a civic you know the whole deal lowered rims intake ect, well we drove by one of the smog check things of coures they made him go on the rollers. we asked what the whp was and they got pissed then after he passed the smog check, my cousin popped the trunk and showed him the full catback exhaust that was going on the car the next day. but thats the only smog check thing i have seen

fuckin ass bags

[revat619]

this is such bull shit. If they're gonna do this then why do we have to have a MANDATORY smog check every 2 years. This is such a waste of tax payer money. Stop fucking with emissions stuff and get us out of debt, renovate our schools, get people off welfare. Shit.....

[OptionZero]

The article states that the CHP is stopping cars they "feel" might not pass emissions.

That is a stoppage and a search and temporary seizure and way, way too much discretion for individual officers.

Were I bar certified and a local community member, I would be inclined to challenge the legality of their scheme.

[Slidewayz Inc.]

thanks god i live in FL

[svensko]

SoCal is SoCool, right? Oh wait... :ugh:

[SidewayZ-s14]

SoCal is SoCool, right? Oh wait... :ugh:

LOL no! Thank god i've never even seen one of those road side smog checks. :bigok:

[svensko]

That's one good thing about the south. No emissions in most counties. In the words of my dad, "They don't care if you have cow shit coming out the tail pipe as long as it doesn't get on their hood." :keke:

[racer98]

Probably not, being that diesel powered vehicles are smog exempt.

Um starting this year 2008 - Light trucks and Passenger vehiciles 97 and newer are now in the smog program.:loco: :keke:

[racepar1]

That's nothing! They have vans that are fitted with test equipment that can check your emissions as you pass by them. Obviously it is not exactly reliable and the technology is not 100% ready to go yet, but their working on it! ASSHOLES!

[Aoshi112]

they've already got one of those machines that performs a roadside emission test as they drive by on the freeway and will take pics of your license plate if they think your car emits too much smog. A friend of mine spotted one in the OC.

http://lh5.google.com/buylowersellhigher/R1RvqdB31RI/AAAAAAAADwk/uwS5dQrMG4U/IMG_5906.JPG?imgmax=1024

[powersteeringless180sx]

they could at least use the money we pay in fines to fix all the fucked up roads in Cali. I'll be making my anual contribution to the state in Febuary. Fucking Ref.....:madfawk:

[racepar1]

they've already got one of those machines that performs a roadside emission test as they drive by on the freeway and will take pics of your license plate if they think your car emits too much smog. A friend of mine spotted one in the OC.

http://lh5.google.com/buylowersellhigher/R1RvqdB31RI/AAAAAAAADwk/uwS5dQrMG4U/IMG_5906.JPG?imgmax=1024

YUP! They are targeting probably less than 5% of the total air pollution in california with this program, and by that I mean gross polluters not cars in general. I bet about 75% of it comes from industrial plants/vehicles, but of course nobody wants to fuck with big businesses! Our fucking tax dollars at work man! :loco:

[PRADOgy]

No citations according to chp :keke:


:fawkd: is what i think




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geesh those dollar $ign$ are fucking with my eyes

[smelly240]

see all those cops driving around should be on bicycles :P... or some hydrogen cars... that will drop the pollution.

[98koukile]

I don't see why this is a big deal... shouldn't you want your car to pass smog? Oh noez I lost 2whp because I have a hi flow cat instead of a test pipe! Passing smog is easy as pie and doesn't fuck with your horsepower too much.

[Rob's S14]

Stock SR's do pass smog as far as polluting, but they don't pass the visual inspection. That's the problem.

[ericcastro]

I don't see why this is a big deal... shouldn't you want your car to pass smog? Oh noez I lost 2whp because I have a hi flow cat instead of a test pipe! Passing smog is easy as pie and doesn't fuck with your horsepower too much.

My car does pass. But it doesn't mean I am ok with my rights being violated, being harassed, wasting my time, having to sit there embarraesed while other motorist drive by and stare, and I bet I get harassed about other stuff once they have me over.

Thats why I usually start letting them have it as soon as they pull me over now days :) I also stop right after large driveway entrances so they have to block the exit entrance to stores or things like that :fawkd: It is awsome when they are trying to sweat me and people are honking at them to move, and all Im giving them is some "your profiling!! you dont even have a reason to pull me over, youv'e got no cause, that shit wont hold in court, your lucky I let you look at my license..." They usually let me go quik:naughty:

[fcukven1]

and i was thinking about moving to the west coast ....mmm fuck that ..... specially when my car has an SR, coilovers, and a modified exhaust, and im a latino im sure ill be enemy #1 in their eyes douch bags

[ericcastro]

just depends where you live. I feel like the opertunity in CA and the weather still outweigh the negative.

[TheSquidd]

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=142155

For all further arguing I refer you to read this thread.

1. Testing is NOT mandatory, you can refuse it. This has been stated 100x before. I think CARB even released a statement saying this to be true.

http://smogcheck.ca.gov/stdPAge.asp?Menu=/includes/Menu_GenInfo.htm&Body=/Geninfo/Factsheets/Roadside_Emissions_Survey-Jun_2007.htm

2. No citations are given, because how wrong is that that you volunteer to take this smog SURVEY and get cited for failing?

3. This is just SURVEYING, they're testing average cars and seeing who can and can't pass smog. If you fail they simply tell you how to fix it and send you on your way.

4. They've been doing this is the 909 for years.

They will continue to do this for YEARS more, in more counties, in more cities, more machines, and they'll ticket you and do whatever you want because why? Because NONE of us on this forum, or any tuner forum that gives a rats ass has ANY legal or financial power great enough to take on the CARB.

Why is it that we get picked on? Because we're young, dumb and have disposable income. Rhymes!

F.

I think it's a great idea. Whether you agree with the law or not, it is the law.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. You live in ATLANTA, GA.

That fact alone means you know NOTHING of what it's like to own a 240sx in California.

Also, that kind of attitude is SHIT. People with that kind of complacent outlook on law and government are the bane of this country's existence. You have this bull shit attitude of "Oh it doesn't affect me so it's a great law." Well what happens when they make a law outlawing something YOU love? You're just going to obey? Great. Enjoy your sad, empty life of submission. The rest of us meanwhile are going to fight injustice in whatever way possible.

Blah. Read that thread above. That pretty much sums my ideas up.

And no god damnit, I will not move. They could chase me around firing bullets at me. This is fucking CALIFORNIA. The greatest state in the country. I'll fight to the death to stay here because it is awesome and sunny and we have Horse Thief Mile.

**EDIT I just realized ProjectRDM is the same ass-clown I OWNED in that thread above. Hhahahaha don't you ever learn?

Seriously, everyone just read that thread I posted. It's HILARIOUS. R240NA = ProjectRDM

[CoasTek240]

great! and im supposed to move to SD next month. My car has no emissions reducing equip. and no cat.
i suck!

[xplicit240]

cali is super strict.gg guys i feel for you out there.

[TheSquidd]

great! and im supposed to move to SD next month. My car has no emissions reducing equip. and no cat.
i suck!

That hasn't stopped the rest of us.

There's always a way... :angel:

[Bobafreak]

yessssiirrrrr. what happen to your ticket though? dismissed? save any $?

[TheSquidd]

I'm going to court in March. Gonna tell them I sold the car.

[ericcastro]

when you get a ticket reduced, its just $10 then. I know, just did 2 different ones before Xmas.(plate placement and modified exhaust)

got 3 coming up (modified exhaust, tabs, tint.)




And we all know someone who will pass us through smog:) its just usually $100 instead of the $50 you would pay normally. plus, us OB1 guys got it even easier!

[ROUGE180]

thanks god i live in FL

Dude!!!.. Im soooo moving there just for that reason.. I can deal with the heat and the hurricanes.. I was born in the tropics so no biggie. My cousin keeps jabbing me in the side with the "I can do whatever I want to my car nyeh ne nyeh ne Nyeeeeh nyeeeeh".

[TheSquidd]

Yeah you can do whatever you want to your car but.... then you live in FLORIDA.

If you don't understand how wrong that is, there is no hope.

[revat619]

Yeah you can do whatever you want to your car but.... then you live in FLORIDA.

If you don't understand how wrong that is, there is no hope.


exactly.

We dont say Florida Fail for nothing.

Although, if enough of us Cali guys moved there, it'd probably cease to suck as much. :p

[dsc4130]

Yeah you can do whatever you want to your car but.... then you live in FLORIDA.

If you don't understand how wrong that is, there is no hope.haahhaha owned, im really hoping the west coast laws dont come to the midwest but just like everything else they will, so everyone that says thank god i live in were ever, our days are numbered, cause its comming.

[dsc4130]

That's nothing! They have vans that are fitted with test equipment that can check your emissions as you pass by them. Obviously it is not exactly reliable and the technology is not 100% ready to go yet, but their working on it! ASSHOLES! as gay as this sounds in missouri if you tailgate someone while going though those(cause here there on the on ramps to the highway) and the people in the van arent looking you can pass you emissions for the year. it sounds stupid and you think it wont work ibut ive seen it happen

[TravisSW]

POSTED: 4:47 pm PDT September 18, 2007
UPDATED: 6:22 pm PDT September 18, 2007

Old?

[hijack3d]

You know what? I'll bitch and moan about California traffic and their stupid emission laws... but the fact is this is the place to be if you're into motor sports. Events every month, the auto industry next door...Since moving here I've come across a lot of opportunities, so whatev about emissions...

But then again, I haven't lived here for long. And I'm not registered in California because I'm in the service also.. So you can ask me about it again in a couple months. My opinion may change...

[TheSquidd]

My opinion may change...

It won't. California IS it's own country. And that country's name is AWESOME.

[!Zar!]

Exactly.

Fuck all those other states.

[fcukven1]

It won't. California IS it's own country. And that country's name is AWESOME.

hahahha thats siiiiiick you should put that on ur siggy, but i guess ur right nothing is perfect but cali is as good as it gets, i remember driving thru the city and is awesome roads being super smooth but then you get on the freeway

[racepar1]

Yeah you can do whatever you want to your car but.... then you live in FLORIDA.

If you don't understand how wrong that is, there is no hope.

Seriously dude, florida is where old people go to die! The bottom line about cali is that if you are into cars and motorsports (other than nascar) it is the place to be! Ya the smog laws suck, ya the cops are dicks, and ya traffic is gay as fuck. But it is worth it! We as a community have to get better at tuning our cars and smarter about swapping engines. There are possible options for CARB legal engine swaps.

[!Zar!]

Cali just isn't about cars and modding.

If you want a better life you live here, because life is hands down better here.

If you want a life that sucks and is full of wondering then you can move out to some other state.

[UfoZ8myCow]

Ive seen one of these like right down the street from my house in San Gabriel. They were just putting beater ass cars on it, they had like three of those trucks filled with Mexican gardeners lined up to get on the thing. As if they arent broke enough already, let's fuck with them some more and give them smog tickets! If they could afford better cars... Im sure they would have them.

[420sx]

fuck that.

hey you. yea you. bacardi and cola. do it. do it

[genericforumname]

as far as I know profiling is legal, only racial profiling is illegal, am I incorrect? also yes, Florida DOES fail, in virtually everything that matters.

I remember reading that Florida has the highest per capita old people rate in the country, only beaten by some county in New Mexico or something.

and for you saying that California traffic sucks, I've never been there but on my way to school I hit rush hour like traffic at 9 o damn clock

plus I almost get hit virtually every day.

also, I think I may have multiple aneurysms and be at risk for a stroke

[GooseXRS]

as far as I know profiling is legal, only racial profiling is illegal, am I incorrect? also yes, Florida DOES fail, in virtually everything that matters.

I remember reading that Florida has the highest per capita old people rate in the country, only beaten by some county in New Mexico or something.

and for you saying that California traffic sucks, I've never been there but on my way to school I hit rush hour like traffic at 9 o damn clock

plus I almost get hit virtually every day.

also, I think I may have multiple aneurysms and be at risk for a stroke



So sad. I now say fuck Florida for sure. I have never left cali in my life. I have had no reason to. Everything you could possibly need is here. You like hick white chics move to modesto, you like gangster chics move to fresno, you like asian chics, move to garden grove. But socal is where its at when it comes to cars. Yeah we pay tax on shit online but we can also pick it up most of the time. meets EVERY night. Rich older women(mid to late 30's) to be my sugar moma.Every type of food imaginable. The best taco shop in the world is in westminster. As for smog we just got to be smart about it.

No matter what you gotta pay to play and we pay a little more than the other states but we play a hell of a lot more than the other states.

Hands down we win.

And the terminator is our governor. +1 for that right lol

I think I would only move to Japan so When it comes to the u.s no one else can compete. I mean everyone foreign knows where california is. EVERYONE, that should tell you something

I just had some young people from china move in next door and I asked them why cali, why so cal. They said Its the only place worth it.

Plus you can do every outdoor sport know to man in cali.

Another thing is alot of people that have nice modded cars here have a DD so they only need to sweat a couple times a week if that.

[swiftdrift]

WOW theres one of those smog things set up in front of my house a few times a year!

Glad i can see when i come out and go the opposite direction:keke:

[ericcastro]

...... only racial profiling is illegal....

Yeah, my last name is CASTRO. And they dont like minorities in lowered cars in Burbank. Yet I put in almost 40 hrs overtime a week, so i pay WAY more taxes than them. And I still gotta take there shit:confused:

Oh well, thats the trade to live in the country of AWSOME!:bigok:

(are we latin people still minorities???)lol

[Pank]

I could drive around in a top fuel dragster powered by sewage and land mines and it'd be legal as long as the lights and horn worked

NC, the middle state

[jworks]

Thank god we don't see those in (818) (213) area lol
I'm pretty sure its going to climb up cali

[GooseXRS]

Yes FUCK FLORIDA. Do we need to make this a poll? California vs. Florida? Ill do it. I mean there is a reason why events are so plentiful in cali. Its because we are better than florida drivers and our dicks are bigger. Thats why the porn industry is here and we get laid just for saying we are from cali. and because nobody is really into old people porn, thats supposed to be a joke. Im sure we can even win with it being So Cal vs. Florida. Lets try it...:)

[ericcastro]

+1 me,
nother ticket on the way home from the DRIFT626 meet in arcadia!!

thanks CHP :)

[!Zar!]

+1 me,
nother ticket on the way home from the DRIFT626 meet in arcadia!!

thanks CHP :)
But for what is the question and did you deserve it?

[ericcastro]

Naw, more profiling.

I took my proof of insurance out of my car after horse thief mile tis weekend and forgot to put it back in. So the tickets for no proof of insurance. (show proof at CHP monday, $10 fine, easy)

But on the freeway they passed me up alittle, and hit the brakes. then they paced me for over a mile. right next to me. I knew they were just looking for a reason then.
then they pulled behind me for another half mile. At this point, i have been pulled over so much in Ca, im just wishing they would hurry up and hit the lights.
once they got me over, they asked why i didnt have tabs. so i pointed to the red #1 paper taped to the window and told them that was my temp registration.

then they started asking me questions about my engine while shining a flashlight on the hood. the other cop during this 7 minute questioning is going around my car looking for violations with his flashlight.

finally they ran my info and had to settle on a no proof ticket.

Im getting tired of CHP and other departments making me pop the hood all the time, or asking me about my engine. then giving me a look like i am lying tothem. IT'S A BONE STOCK SOHC!!!!!

[!Zar!]

Well... yeah. Tickets that are avoidable suck.

But if your car looks the part...