Check out this ebay scam, I have seen this Pic on zilvia before!!

[inertiadrft]

I know I have seen the same picture of the 15 and the 34 here on Zilvia before..


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Nissan-240SX-215-s13-s15-jdm-rhd-6-speed-skyline-gtr-sr20det_W0QQitemZ160195685772QQihZ006QQcategoryZ63 96QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I'm not saying the actual owner of the car is the same person selling this,
I think it might be a stolen pic or something..

I can only Imagine the amount of work it must of took'n for a conversion of this magnitude.. its 100% converted!!

[ThatGuy]

Bad link.

[inertiadrft]

Bad link.

oops! I'm on it!!

2min later..

There it is!!

[ThatGuy]

Probably the same guy. His Threads got closed here on Zilvia, so selling them on eGay makes sense.

[Tops*]

Someone's already placed a bid too.

The guy's sn here on Zilvia isvchad_everson. I remember checking out his sale.
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=167105&highlight=s15

[inertiadrft]

Someone's already placed a bid too.

The guy's sn here on Zilvia isvchad_everson. I remember checking out his sale.
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=167105&highlight=s15

Ahhh!! chad!! I remember now..
I wonder if its really him trying to e-scam..

[BustedS13]

"replica"? somebody swapped vins and doesn't want to admit to a felony.

[DOOK]

yeah, that is definately no replica...

[Phlip]

That is definitely what he does, since he was banned from the marketplace here for continuing a pissing contest with another seller about his gray market cars.

[s13Dr1ft]

i reported it to ebay, Id hate to see someone waste money on a over priced car with a 240sx vin.

[eastcoastS14]

yeah lol def not a replica....i wonder if you can really get away with that...swapping vins and telling the registry you did a full conversion...I mean how would they really find out??

[BustedS13]

yeah lol def not a replica....i wonder if you can really get away with that...swapping vins and telling the registry you did a full conversion...I mean how would they really find out??

they'd find out when you get in an accident and they go over your car with a fine tooth comb. better have all the vins swapped/ground off.

[jackjack]

oooOOo shady.

[ThatGuy]

yeah lol def not a replica....i wonder if you can really get away with that...swapping vins and telling the registry you did a full conversion...I mean how would they really find out??

You can "get away with it" just like you can get away with selling drugs or killing someone. It's still illegal, and when you do get caught, it's going to cost you. :nono:

[arkive43]

s13 s15 jdm rhd 6 speed skyline gtr sr20det

lol wtf is it ?!?! def shady good lookin out. of course i have enough sence not to bother with these things....

[Matej]

yeah lol def not a replica....i wonder if you can really get away with that...swapping vins and telling the registry you did a full conversion...I mean how would they really find out??
There are two local R33's "legally" registered as S14's with S14 vins.


While I would never go through all that trouble just to go through even more very serious trouble if I ever got caught, at the same time I have to think, why is it such a huge deal to drive an imported S15 or an R32 in the U.S.?
I know it has to do with crash testing, but do the police officers seriously care that much about your life that they're willing to crush your expensively imported car, put you in jail possibly for years, and make you pay outrageous fines? If it came down to it I'd probably rather crash and die in the car than go through that. People drive those cars everywhere else in the world and they're perfectly fine, the police go about this as if these imported cars were about to randomly blow up in a nuclear explosion any minute.

[sxe]

everyone with an ebay account shud report it, this guys SHAAAAADDDYYY!!!

[s13Dr1ft]

There are two local R33's "legally" registered as S14's with S14 vins.


While I would never go through all that trouble just to go through even more very serious trouble if I ever got caught, at the same time I have to think, why is it such a huge deal to drive an imported S15 or an R32 in the U.S.?
I know it has to do with crash testing, but do the police officers seriously care that much about your life that they're willing to crush your expensively imported car, put you in jail possibly for years, and make you pay outrageous fines? If it came down to it I'd probably rather crash and die in the car than go through that. People drive those cars everywhere else in the world and they're perfectly fine, the police go about this as if these imported cars were about to randomly blow up in a nuclear explosion any minute.

those 2 r33's are illegal anyway you cut the shit. Registering it as a whole different chasis/car doesnt mean anything. Thats chop shop type shit.
BMV doesnt physiclly check the car to make sure its a XXXXX XXX XXXXXXXXX.

There is so much crap to get into about everything you posted, But everything has been covered on vast amounts of forums. Crash testing is a fraction of legal cars.

Hell im looking for a HCR32 for a track car, I could care less about driving a JDM car on the street. I could get away with driving it on the streets here, but its an investment i dont want to end up paying for a paperweight if the wrong cop pulls me over.

[Turtle]

So, thats a real s15 with s13 vin numbers? I'm confused.

[BustedS13]

So, thats a real s15 with s13 vin numbers? I'm confused.

ding. he's claiming it's all custom, but there's no way in hell. all the glass and roof is pure s15. unless he had an s15 to cut the entire body off of, that's just a gray market s15 with s13 tags. a felony if caught.

[ALEXTHESUS*PECT]

So, thats a real s15 with s13 vin numbers? I'm confused.

that's what they're saying!:newbie:

[RedStage]

just looking at the shock towers alone tells you it's not an S13, but how many DMV/Police personnel would know that...?

[eastcoastS14]

You can "get away with it" just like you can get away with selling drugs or killing someone. It's still illegal, and when you do get caught, it's going to cost you. :nono:

yeah I only asked cause i mean I was thinkin who is really gonna know? Even if a cop pulled u over and ran the license and registration and you pull out one for a 240 is he gonna know? doubt it....and if he asks about the RHD tell him its a conversion....I mean I could imagine cops in a place like cali being up on their import knowledge....but im pretty confident that I could drive an S15 with 240 tags around where I live for probably the next few decades without any cop ever knowing the difference, I pop the hood and tell him my SR is a KA why would he question me? prob no idea what either looks like or the difference ...if I had to guess Id say most cops dont know their imports and if they couldnt see the emblems probably wouldnt know the difference between a 240 and an accord

[BustedS13]

yeah I only asked cause i mean I was thinkin who is really gonna know? Even if a cop pulled u over and ran the license and registration and you pull out one for a 240 is he gonna know? doubt it....and if he asks about the RHD tell him its a conversion....I mean I could imagine cops in a place like cali being up on their import knowledge....but im pretty confident that I could drive an S15 with 240 tags around where I live for probably the next few decades without any cop ever knowing the difference, I pop the hood and tell him my SR is a KA why would he question me? prob no idea what either looks like or the difference ...if I had to guess Id say most cops dont know their imports and if they couldnt see the emblems probably wouldnt know the difference between a 240 and an accord

that doesn't make it any less of an unarguable felony. they day you get caught (read: the day you're in an accident, at fault or not, and a claims adjuster, who DOES know what cars look like, inspects the damage) is the day you take it in the ass, and hard.

[SeattleSilvia]

you guys are funny. it is real, and so is the 34. i know chad personally and my car is in the same shop as his 2001 white Spec R. whether or not its him posting it on ebay i dont know, i dont personally like the guy, but go on, this is entertaining.:drama:

[DreamN]

^ what are you talking about? no one's debating that's a real s15. fact is we know it's a real s15. what the problem is it's being advertised as an s13 converted into an s15.

[Tenchuu]

is not that chad guy. that chad guy is from oregon and that is where his cars are. he has tried to sell them on other forums too that i know off. always wants an arm and a leg and wants to say they are legal when it is not exactly so.

[DreamN]

^ If you read his for sale thread then you would know that he posted this exact car was in Mississippi. Whoever is listing this is giving Hattiesburg, MS as the location so 1+1= Someone is selling fraudulent car!

"Chad" did claim his car was "legal" and this might shed some light onto how it was "legalized."

[Phlip]

s13 s15 jdm rhd 6 speed skyline gtr sr20det

lol wtf is it ?!?! def shady good lookin out. of course i have enough sence not to bother with these things....

You put ALL that shit in there so a google search might pull one in on your ad.
Using bullshit that people happen to search for all the time is a time-tested and very effective technique.

[DALAZ_68]

the police go about this as if these imported cars were about to randomly blow up in a nuclear explosion any minute.

like if it was a pinto or something :cj:

lol

[Tops*]

The fact that the seller's feedback score is a whopping zero should sway potential buyers away from the sale. I guess some people just don't give a fuck if they're out $10,000.

[firelizard]

Engine: 4 Cylinder 2.4 Liter


lol

[DreamN]

The fact that the seller's feedback score is a whopping zero should sway potential buyers away from the sale. I guess some people just don't give a fuck if they're out $10,000.

The bidder is new as well. Pretty certain they're somehow connected.

[s13Dr1ft]

Me---

Why are you selling a S15 as a replica? Its obviously not a replica considering its 100% S15. Im sure you didnt skin the roof and pilars yourself. Selling a car with a chop shop vin from a car over 10 years older is illegal.
I hope your cars get impounded and crushed. good day Chad.


This is the response i got from him on Ebay.. Notice the name Kendall Noble, I dont think this is Chad.

From: [email protected] on behalf of kendall Noble ([email protected])

Thanks for your words of encouragement. The car is registered under its japanese vin. No VIN switching here. Deusch bag.

[DreamN]

He spelled "douche" wrong. lol

That person is definitely connected to Chad. I believe he was posting in the FS thread for this car.

[s13Dr1ft]

Yea they are connected, Go through the other thread with Chad and the dude that was doing the R33 raffle thing, Kendall comes up a bit.

I had asked him to send me pictures of the VIN plate that an officer had put on the car since it was legal, i also asked to have pics of the certificates stating the car to be 1000000000% legal to drive in every state without any trouble.

My guess is...I wont get them. More people need to report his auction

[DreamN]

I've reported it, but don't know the whole process that ebay takes on these matters.

[skylindrftr]

I contacted him as well because he said he had a r33 with a real cali title, seemed suspicious. There are also two sites those guys run that claims the cars were redone for us spec in japan, hard to believe, if anyone has extra cash sitting around try it out lol...

[drftwerks]

so what??

who the fuck would buy rhd for the street anyway???

if i had money, it would be a track car.

[DreamN]

SeattleSilvia tried neg repping my post in which I think both current bidder and seller might be connected.

maybe mods should check into him for being connected to all this. lol

[SeattleSilvia]

yeah that didnt work as i planned. connected to selling these cars? hahahah, if someone seriously wants to waste their time go for it. nice pics on your myspace by the way lol. by the way, my ebay handle is Preciseye, go snoop around a bit ;)

[DreamN]

lol yeah it was more meant as a joke. damn you check out the goods, but you don't add. weak! :D

[SeattleSilvia]

aww u want a friend? there, add request. now u can poke fun at me too!

[DreamN]

hmm... I don't know you though. don't know if I want to add you or not. haha

^ way off topic haha.

I'm actually still wondering if reporting the auction and seller have any affect. I would thought it would have been deleted or something by now.

[ThatGuy]

He may not have swapped VINs. There are other ways of going about it, but it is all Gray Market and Illegal.

Loopholes gentlemen, loopholes.

[DreamN]

Yes loopholes, but it's listed as a converted s13 -> s15. That just screams vin swap. I'd like to give the benefit of the doubt to anyone importing and trying make the process of legalization easier, but it's hard when shit like this pops up.

[s13Dr1ft]

He may not have swapped VINs. There are other ways of going about it, but it is all Gray Market and Illegal.

Loopholes gentlemen, loopholes.

I will put $5,000.00 on it that he swapped the vins. I asked him to show me the state appointed VIN that started with S15-xxxx and he said the vin they gave him was the one that comes up as a 1992 Nissan 240sx.

Any true legal import's american appointed vin uses the chasis code and then numbers etc.

[ThatGuy]

Heh, relax. There is no need to put money on it. I was just throwing another idea out there. It's not like I'm defending this guy. We banned him from the Marketplace.

[S14DB]

yeah that didnt work as i planned. connected to selling these cars? hahahah, if someone seriously wants to waste their time go for it. nice pics on your myspace by the way lol. by the way, my ebay handle is Preciseye, go snoop around a bit ;)No it didn't SlideWell, BUH BYE

[s13Dr1ft]

Heh, relax. There is no need to put money on it. I was just throwing another idea out there. It's not like I'm defending this guy. We banned him from the Marketplace.

Im relaxed, I didnt mean to come off like i did ha ha. I only used the "put 5K on it..." as an expression.

[Edgar]

And people called me an asshole, i'm staying away from all shady people and i'm going to just keep my mouth shut.

[s13Dr1ft]

You are an asshole. =0D

[ThatGuy]

Im relaxed, I didnt mean to come off like i did ha ha. I only used the "put 5K on it..." as an expression.

Cool. Good to hear.

[LloydXmas]

Well I need to know if this kendall guy is vin swaping or is legit b/c I have been talking to a close friend of his about purchasing a r32 through him. I live in kentucky where it is low key, I just want to make sure it is atleast a kit-car title and not another 240 vin...

[Farzam]

Hahah

I'd totally call the popo and tell on him...but i'm not a douchebag.

[slidingsky]

Well I need to know if this kendall guy is vin swaping or is legit b/c I have been talking to a close friend of his about purchasing a r32 through him. I live in kentucky where it is low key, I just want to make sure it is atleast a kit-car title and not another 240 vin...

Kendall does not swap Vin numbers, they are 100 percent legit cars.
My friend owns an R33 that was bought through Kendall and it is a 50 state federalized car.

As far as that ebay auction goes..... If I didn't know Kendall then I would think that was a scam as well but I don't think Kendall himself created that auciton. He usually doesn't mask over the truth or actual fact of whatever car he sells so something is amiss.

[S13SilviaGirl]

Well I need to know if this kendall guy is vin swaping or is legit b/c I have been talking to a close friend of his about purchasing a r32 through him. I live in kentucky where it is low key, I just want to make sure it is atleast a kit-car title and not another 240 vin...

I would be careful. Never hurts to dig further on something like this.

[LloydXmas]

yes, I have been trying to dig for info b/c I am being very cautious. If anyone has info on kendall, good or bad please pm me with what you know. Thanks.

[s13Dr1ft]

Kendall does not swap Vin numbers, they are 100 percent legit cars.
My friend owns an R33 that was bought through Kendall and it is a 50 state federalized car.

As far as that ebay auction goes..... If I didn't know Kendall then I would think that was a scam as well but I don't think Kendall himself created that auciton. He usually doesn't mask over the truth or actual fact of whatever car he sells so something is amiss.

If your in good with him, tell him to send me the info I asked for.

[slidingsky]

Ok I will see what I can do.

[Bubba]

I used to work with Kendall and have seen quite a few of the cars he has sold around MS. The cars I have seen and checked out have been legal and I have never heard of any VIN swapping on any of them. If you want to say I am connected with him then go right ahead, but you would be wasting your time even typing it.

We never took a liking to each other really, but I am not going to knock him by saying untruthful stuff about him or what he does. I do not know the specifics of the legalization but I do know the cars he had have all had titles and state issued tags on them. I would have gotten the green S15 he had if I had the money, but God only knows I am drowning in debt at the moment so I didn't. All I have seen are nicely built and/or well maintained cars in his posession. If you are close enough to MS and want a car, check him out. If not, flame on like every other internet occupant.

[s13Dr1ft]

Well, when he takes on of these legal cars to Cali and it passes and get registered there thats when ill belive it.

Ebay: the land of suckers.

[Bubba]

I would never take a car to Cali. Hell, even my stock 91 won't pass any inspections in Cali. MississippiFTGDMFwin

[s13Dr1ft]

Sadly for a car to be 50 state legal...It has to pass cali.

I thank god we dont have emissions and inspections. Everywhere else around us does, even front plates.

[LloydXmas]

yeah, kentucky is the same way, or better when it comes to registering, and emissions. No emission testing ftw!

[S14DB]

If they aren't Federalized they are not legal. Flat out. I don't care if you can con your state DMV into giving you a tag. Fed DOT can fuck you up way worse than any state DOT can.

[Bubba]

MDOT only cares if you deplete the breakfast food supplies for the state, as long as Awful House is open and you aren't DUI you are good to go.

[Slidewayz Inc.]

could be liget

[sr_zenki]

I know this car is legit. I was the one that put the silver R34 for up sale. If you are interested in the car than I can get pictures to show that it's real. As far as the VIN goes, Ebay won't let you put S15s on there, so he used a S13 VIN.

[S14DB]

As far as the VIN goes, Ebay won't let you put S15s on there, so he used a S13 VIN.
I wonder why...

[chibo]

I wonder why...

Because ebay checks VINs against a set of criteria, if they aren't meant it spits the VIN out as invalid. I'm sure you see what I'm getting at.

[Bubba]

Wow, I get neg rep for not "knowing true US legality".

Who gives a fuck asshat?

I live in a state where money talks and bullshit walks.
If I wanted to be environmentally friendly or pass inspection in every state I would buy a damn hybrid or a POS Civic for gods sake.
So to whoever gave me neg rep for that lame ass excuse, go sit on it dry. :bigok:

Have a nice day. :jerkit:

[DreamN]

I know this car is legit. I was the one that put the silver R34 for up sale. If you are interested in the car than I can get pictures to show that it's real. As far as the VIN goes, Ebay won't let you put S15s on there, so he used a S13 VIN.

did you even read the description of that auction? it says it's an s13 that's been converted to an s15. The auction is definitely not legit, this car may or may not be, but I definitely wouldn't want myself or any fellow member learning that the hardway.

[s13Dr1ft]

looks like its been removed.