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TRU_DAH-V
01-04-2008, 06:48 AM
I removed my bushings and sleeves today I used a reciprocating saw, chisel, and hammer.
I cut i line going through the sleeve and began to chisel down the line, then i hammerd the sleeve out and i notice that i cut a small bit of the inside and about a eighth of the lip am i going to be in shit when i go to install the spl aluminum bushings? should i weld a bead in there and smooth it out?
hellaflush
01-04-2008, 07:03 AM
pics may help?
TRU_DAH-V
01-04-2008, 07:05 AM
i'll post pics tomorrow its early morning right now.
statik
01-04-2008, 07:10 AM
id have to see the cut to say for sure but as long as its not very long/deep you should be fine, just use a dremel or something and smooth it out inside
JDS Performance
01-04-2008, 07:46 AM
My buddy cut his a good bit too - and his are fine - of course we are using our subframe bushings - so I can not vouch for SPL bushings
you really did not even need to cut anything - just concave them in on 1 side and they should hammer right out
you should check out our custom hard rubber inserts - www.NIPerformance.org
ManoNegra
01-04-2008, 10:36 AM
Buddy of mine and myself have done that - cut a bit into the sleeves - when doing the regular bushings. Figure the subframe would be the same.
BTW, thanks JDS for that youtube vid, I'll be doing SPL solids in a week and it gave me good pointers.
JDS Performance
01-04-2008, 12:03 PM
Buddy of mine and myself have done that - cut a bit into the sleeves - when doing the regular bushings. Figure the subframe would be the same.
BTW, thanks JDS for that youtube vid, I'll be doing SPL solids in a week and it gave me good pointers.
No problem - if you havent bought your bushings yet - please check our design out as well - www.NIPerformance.org
TRU_DAH-V
01-04-2008, 09:32 PM
Heres the shots i took today hopefully i dont have to do any welding.
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z206/tru_ching/DSC02689.jpg
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z206/tru_ching/DSC02687.jpg
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z206/tru_ching/DSC02686.jpg
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z206/tru_ching/DSC02685.jpg
hellaflush
01-04-2008, 11:44 PM
i personally dont think that will be a problem at all... it only looks to be 2mm deep if that... nothing to worry about... if you really wanna to weld it and file it - go for it but i dont see issues
if you wanted to fix it - it would only take 30mins maybe...
btw what are you replacing the old ones with? nismo bushings and solid spacers ontop?
racepar1
01-05-2008, 12:06 AM
I've done that to the suspension arms on my car and my buddies cars when installing energy bushing kits and I haven't had any break. You will 100% for sure be fine.
TRU_DAH-V
01-05-2008, 12:30 AM
my girlfriend orderd me aluminum subframe bushings from SPL for christmas. so i was forced to take out the old ones hahahaha.
thanks for the advice!
TRU_DAH-V
01-05-2008, 12:38 AM
No problem - if you havent bought your bushings yet - please check our design out as well - www.NIPerformance.org (http://www.NIPerformance.org)
yeah thanks for that youtube video i tried to do it how you guys did in the video but it wasn't working out for me so i ended up cutting.
hellaflush
01-05-2008, 01:18 AM
show us some pics of your insall of the bushes afterwards
would be interested to see
ive always only used subframe full collar spacers... never replaced the actual bushings - much difference?
TRU_DAH-V
01-05-2008, 04:25 AM
i'll have my girlfriend take pics of the install once the bushings arrive, it should be here by monday.
JDS Performance
01-05-2008, 07:23 AM
Your welcome - I have quite a few ways to get them out on the full video - that YouTube was just a sneak peek.
Yes my buddy cut 1 side deeper than that - so you should be fine
As for the colllars to solid bushing - yes there is a big difference - no more rubber/poly at all - plus they will last forever - the collars are just bandaids so to speak as the old bushings inside will still go bad leaving the collars usless.
I have a few pix of one of our customers I will share - he has our Custom Hard Rubber inserts installed as well - you can see the one on top in pix.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j274/joshds25/DSC06219.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j274/joshds25/DSC06223.jpg
TRU_DAH-V
01-05-2008, 07:18 PM
do those plastic inserts make a noticeable diffrence? and how long would they last?
JDS Performance
01-05-2008, 07:57 PM
do those plastic inserts make a noticeable diffrence? and how long would they last?
yes they make a big difference - life span is guaranteed for 10 yrs
they are hard rubber not plastic
check them out at our site - http://www.NIPerformance.org
TRU_DAH-V
01-07-2008, 02:43 AM
Bushing installation
nuts bolts and washers
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z206/tru_ching/DSC02772.jpg
(L-R) 3/4 4" bolt, 3/4 6" bolt, 4 3/4 washers, and 3/4 bolt.
My brother lubing the subframe with some napa grease
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z206/tru_ching/DSC02725.jpg
using the impact to press in the bushings.
it should be assembled in this order 2 washers up top, flat bushing, bushing with concave facing down, 2 washers, 3/4 bolt, and then the nut.
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z206/tru_ching/DSC02745.jpg
Final Product.
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z206/tru_ching/DSC02767.jpg
Install was a sucess i though it was going to turn out bad because the bottom bushing was a tight fit.
video of me pressing the bushings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjDDf-Kyczc
hellaflush
01-07-2008, 06:33 AM
im gonna get a set off of JDS in the near future
cheers for the pics of install btw :)
also looking at doing drum handbrake conversion and building a 2nd cradle without pulling mine off of the road
are z32 cradles the same as s14? if so i have cheap access to one as id like to strip it down, weld some box sections into it and paint it -then do the JDS bushings and also at the same time ill be able to do drum handbrake conversion with r33 rear twin pots as z32 shares same drum setup as r33
is it as simple btw for the drum handbrake setup to just use r33 cables on s14... theyre the right length? cheers
TRU_DAH-V
01-07-2008, 06:41 AM
im gonna get a set off of JDS in the near future
cheers for the pics of install btw :)
also looking at doing drum handbrake conversion and building a 2nd cradle without pulling mine off of the road
are z32 cradles the same as s14? if so i have cheap access to one as id like to strip it down, weld some box sections into it and paint it -then do the JDS bushings and also at the same time ill be able to do drum handbrake conversion with r33 rear twin pots as z32 shares same drum setup as r33
is it as simple btw for the drum handbrake setup to just use r33 cables on s14... theyre the right length? cheers
Im thinking cradle means subframe?
I think there diffrent im not to sure and yes you can use r33 cables for the z32 brake setup i think its the best cables to get for the conversion.
hellaflush
01-07-2008, 06:53 AM
yeah cradle (aussie terminology) = subframe
im just thinking its gonna be easier to build a cradle other than my own to minimize garage time as my zenki is my DD (that and the mrs hates my car off the road)
and also if i can use a z32 subframe - its cheap and already has the drum handbrake setup - ill just remove the LCA's and get new balljoints pressed in, uras handbrake shoes, box section the subframe, install JDS solid bushings and all my adjustable rear links at once
JDS Performance
01-07-2008, 12:13 PM
"TRU DAH-V" Man why was it so hard for you to get that bottom bushing to press in?
What brand bushings are you using?
I use a 5" 5/8 bolt/nut with 3 washers on top and 3 washers on bottom - to press them in with.
Grease is a good idea - be sure to grease your stud as well.
Just LMK when you are ready for a set "hellaflush" - by the way it would be NIP's bushing kit - I wouldnt wanna make my parnters mad :bow: www.NIPerformance.org
I am not sure if the z32 subframe is the same as the s14 or not - I do know alot of the suspension parts are really close if not the same between the 2 chassis though. Its worth a try!
You should not have much down time - if you watch the install video I include with our bushing kit - it shouldnt take you longer than 4-5hrs as long as all goes well. Usually takes me 3-4 hrs going slow.
The s14 subframe will take a bit longer as you have a extra sleeve to remove in the fronts - where in the backs its the same deal as the s13 chassis.
TRU_DAH-V
01-07-2008, 03:20 PM
I have the spl bushings not sure why it was so hard though lol maybe my subframe was bent from jamming it with a hammer.
Yup the fronts have 2 layers.
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z206/tru_ching/DSC02771.jpg
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