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nep
01-03-2008, 01:50 PM
finishing up a 5 speed swap, my question is this: is it alright if the driveshaft doesnt seat completly forward against the transmission? i have to pull the shaft about an inch off the trans so that it can bolt up to the diff. the picture below indicates the area i am talking about:

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/2024/dshaftpw2.jpg

another question- the first section of the drive shaft determines if its auto or manual, and the second section determines if its abs or non-abs, correct? because the rear sections of the shafts measure the same between my old auto one and the new one i picked up. thanks
ManoNegra
01-03-2008, 02:03 PM
finishing up a 5 speed swap, my question is this: is it alright if the driveshaft doesnt seat completly forward against the transmission?


It's normal.



another question- the first section of the drive shaft determines if its auto or manual, and the second section determines if its abs or non-abs, correct? because the rear sections of the shafts measure the same between my old auto one and the new one i picked up. thanks

Not sure, but all the lenghts measurements have been posted before. If you don't find them here, check FA too.
nep
01-03-2008, 02:09 PM
It's normal.




Not sure, but all the lenghts measurements have been posted before. If you don't find them here, check FA too.

just found them on FA, thread was moved to the archives so many of the links were broken. and thank you for the reassurance, time to finish this project up
burnsauto
01-03-2008, 02:33 PM
as far as the driveshaft coming out a little...manonegra was correct. usually theres a collar that comes off the back of the trans that covers up that little bit of the shaft.
ManoNegra
01-03-2008, 03:28 PM
as far as the driveshaft coming out a little...manonegra was correct. usually theres a collar that comes off the back of the trans that covers up that little bit of the shaft.

That collar usually gets in the way when doing SR swaps. Dremmel about 1/2 inch off and presto.
jspaeth
01-03-2008, 03:32 PM
as far as the driveshaft coming out a little...manonegra was correct. usually theres a collar that comes off the back of the trans that covers up that little bit of the shaft.

you wanna make sure that the shaft is covered well, otherwise fluids can leak out, and before you know it, you have kids and have to get rid of the 240
Fries
01-03-2008, 03:38 PM
Dont mean to thread jack....
If I were to swap a s13 KA24DE Tranny into my '97(non abs), would I need the front piece of a s13 driveshaft and the rear of a s14 (obviously nonabs) driveshaft?

School me fools.
ManoNegra
01-03-2008, 03:48 PM
Dont mean to thread jack....
If I were to swap a s13 KA24DE Tranny into my '97(non abs), would I need the front piece of a s13 driveshaft and the rear of a s14 (obviously nonabs) driveshaft?

School me fools.

Are you doing a 5 speed swap aswell? Intution tells me that the non-abs 5 speed ds should work, trannies are the same afterall. Maybe Russ can chime in.
exitsine
01-03-2008, 03:50 PM
Dont mean to thread jack....
If I were to swap a s13 KA24DE Tranny into my '97(non abs), would I need the front piece of a s13 driveshaft and the rear of a s14 (obviously nonabs) driveshaft?

School me fools.


speed sensors are different on s13 and s14 trannys. Other than that I dont know of any difference.
Fries
01-04-2008, 08:06 AM
Yes I am swapping to 5 speed, but due to lack of OBDII trannys in Kansas and the surrounding areas, I'm being forced to use a OBDI transmission. Just want to get the facts before I buy something I cant use.
projectRDM
01-04-2008, 09:25 AM
There is no such thing as an OBD-I or OBD-II transmission.

89-90 (reverse, neutral, 5th gear switches)
91-94 (added 4th gear switch)
95-98 (deleted 4th gear switch, added CPS, changed VSS)

Transmissions are all IDENTICAL, just changes in switches. Any one will work in any chassis. You know this.

As for the driveshaft, use the one to fit your chassis. S13 or S14, and ABS or non ABS.
Fries
01-04-2008, 09:30 AM
I was under the impression that if I didnt use a 96-98 transmission that I would have a CEL. Obviously I would know what caused it and it wouldnt be that big of a deal, but I would like to avoid it if possible.

Thank you for the info on the driveshaft though.
projectRDM, if he don't know it no one does!
nep
01-07-2008, 01:01 PM
you wanna make sure that the shaft is covered well, otherwise fluids can leak out, and before you know it, you have kids and have to get rid of the 240


:rofl: that got me.
projectRDM
01-07-2008, 03:19 PM
I was under the impression that if I didnt use a 96-98 transmission that I would have a CEL. Obviously I would know what caused it and it wouldnt be that big of a deal, but I would like to avoid it if possible.

Thank you for the info on the driveshaft though.
projectRDM, if he don't know it no one does!

You'll have a CEL regardless because the chassis is an auto. The CPS code will trip if you don't have a 95-98 transmission, but you'll still throw neutral and 5th gear codes regardless of transmisison unless you hardwire them in to the ECU. The chassis is not wired for either.
But the addition of a CPS does not make the transmission OBD-II since the 95 models are still OBD-I, they just have the CPS for misfire monitoring.
unicoladron
01-07-2008, 04:46 PM
it is actually a good thing that the shaft doesn't seat completely forward, otherwise the shaft would rub and wear on the tranny tail end. the clearance you have is perfect. the reason that gap is there is because the drive shaft uses a "slip yoke" mechanism. under varying torque conditions, this gap will actually increase and/or decrease depending on the conditions and how hard you are pushing the drivetrain.