Trials of Early drifting

[RHS13KNetics]

sup everyone. i find this strange....

well i got a 90' 240sx rockin that single cam... just installed the welded differential a few days ago so it was time to practice..

i feel that maintaining a donut is like 5x harder for me than maintaining a drift.. i mean i even got shift lock down yesterday but doing more than 2 donuts is still a PAIN :rant:

anyone else got this goin on with them?

typically people want to learn donuts first.. bleh iono

[azndoc]

Hmm.... I didn't do donuts prior to drifting. I was able to drift but not really that good.

But however after mastering donuts it was a lot easier for me drifting wise.

Donuts is cool just for the fact that for me it helped me with throttle control and being as ease being sideways.

Just keep on practicing the donuts because its of course the basic foundation of a drift.

Then move onto figure eights to help you with transitions.

Also practice getting closer and closer to the cones if you can set those up to help you with clipping points.

Hope that helps.

[SiI40sx]

uhhh i thought donuts were the easiest things to do? lol

[azndoc]

uhhh i thought donuts were the easiest things to do? lol

Not always.

Sometimes it take people a while to get used to it.

Not everyone is a drift master as yourself there Cesar.

Now could you please sign my titties.

Thanks.

[SiI40sx]

Not always.

Sometimes it take people a while to get used to it.

Not everyone is a drift master as yourself there Cesar.

Now could you please sign my titties.

Thanks.

I cant talk shit until i pop my cherry. I hear so many different stories

"blah blah blah dont get a welded"
"just get a welded it works best"

wtf!?!? if I do an event this weekend or next I can only afford a welded so.... yeah....

But anyway, donuts = easy.

[s13poop]

Not always.

Sometimes it take people a while to get used to it.

Not everyone is a drift master as yourself there Cesar.

Now could you please sign my titties.

Thanks.

hahahahaah

cesar isn't a drift master he thinks ueo's drifting is fake! :coolugh:

i keed i keed :keke:

[Dousan_PG]

i bet money your 'drifts' are power slides
shits not drifting try again

donuts are easiest thing ever
i taught a lot of pepole donuts
once i understood the donuts and figure 8s drifting just accelerated from there

1st gera 2nd gear and 3rd gear donuts are fun.
great way to kill tires and work on throttle control.
its fun times


i dont beliv anything jack says
he almost killed me in his car at HTM
who clutch kicks in 2nd gear at the edge of the track corner?
serious
you got lucky son!

[RHS13KNetics]

i bet money your 'drifts' are power slides
shits not drifting try again

donuts are easiest thing ever
i taught a lot of pepole donuts
once i understood the donuts and figure 8s drifting just accelerated from there

1st gera 2nd gear and 3rd gear donuts are fun.
great way to kill tires and work on throttle control.
its fun times


i dont beliv anything jack says
he almost killed me in his car at HTM
who clutch kicks in 2nd gear at the edge of the track corner?
serious
you got lucky son!


i didnt post this for people to come flame. im sorry man you know me, youve seen me in my car. you know that what i do isnt drifting at all because you were there. my bad man.. i now realize that i cannot drift for shit because you said so:mrmeph:

[SiI40sx]

i bet money your 'drifts' are power slides
shits not drifting try again

donuts are easiest thing ever
i taught a lot of pepole donuts
once i understood the donuts and figure 8s drifting just accelerated from there

1st gera 2nd gear and 3rd gear donuts are fun.
great way to kill tires and work on throttle control.
its fun times


i dont beliv anything jack says
he almost killed me in his car at HTM
who clutch kicks in 2nd gear at the edge of the track corner?
serious
you got lucky son!

hahahah oohhh jack got tooooldddd, haha :kiss:

One thing Ive noticed from messin around in the rain is that power sliding is just a clutch kick quiick countersteer and letting the car correct itself. I think if you can do that you can pretty much drift, only difference is not being afraid to give it gas and keep holding the wheel.

[Dousan_PG]

i have no idea who u are and i dont recall seeing you drift
im sorry
im not insulting you im just saying

geeeeez
ddint know it was that time of the month for you.

[Mister.E]

dont have any worries. it was the same exact thing for me. once you get the hang of the donuts, though, your throttle control during a drift will be way better.

[koukikat180sx]

sup everyone. i find this strange....

well i got a 90' 240sx rockin that single cam... just installed the welded differential a few days ago so it was time to practice..

i feel that maintaining a donut is like 5x harder for me than maintaining a drift.. i mean i even got shift lock down yesterday but doing more than 2 donuts is still a PAIN :rant:

anyone else got this goin on with them?

typically people want to learn donuts first.. bleh iono

i agree with Jack, dounuts and figure 8s are foundations for drifting. to some, drifting doesn't come to you over night. keep practicing and GL.

[arkive43]

azndoc dousan have it exactly right thats what i learned first. also my first drifts were powerovers wrd. then i moved to clutch kicks till my clutch felt like jello rofl...when your learning its good to keep your car the same/consistent. get use to it first. got that from a friend. ;) and lol @ callin dousan an ass thats just how he communicates :rofl:

[!Zar!]

i didnt post this for people to come flame. im sorry man you know me, youve seen me in my car. you know that what i do isnt drifting at all because you were there. my bad man.. i now realize that i cannot drift for shit because you said so:mrmeph:

You're the one coming on here bitching about drifting.

I mean you can't be doing anything too crazy with an open diff and an naska.

Ninja you trippin.

All it is, is car control. If you can't control your car going like 5mph sideways, what makes you think you can control it at the top of third?

[lflkajfj12123]

everything is progessive thats the best way to get better at anything

especially in drifting

start small and go bigger, start slow and go a little faster each time so that you have control each time.

things will become much more natural with consistent practice rather than hitting top of 2nd and pulling the e-brake for an uber power slide

learn your car before you learn to drift anyways

[Matej]

Are you trying to do lame show car spinning donuts, or large radius controlled donuts?

[arkive43]

im asuming lame show car not even wana be j-turn donuts....

[Dousan_PG]

im asuming lame show car not even wana be j-turn donuts....

how is a jturn a donut???

[azndoc]

i dont beliv anything jack says
he almost killed me in his car at HTM
who clutch kicks in 2nd gear at the edge of the track corner?
serious
you got lucky son!

Still giving you nightmares I see.

Maybe if my "instructor" on my first lap let me have a chance to do a couple of parade laps then I wouldn't of almost killed us.

Thanks for almost killing us with your help.

[arkive43]

its not see what im sayin.....;) im sure youve seen some noob try to do donuts. and they end up being j-turns ....

[sijia10358]

i have no idea who u are and i dont recall seeing you drift
im sorry
im not insulting you im just saying

geeeeez
ddint know it was that time of the month for you.
lol haha..i didnt know that guy was a girl! j/k :p :p

i agree with Jack, dounuts and figure 8s are foundations for drifting. to some, drifting doesn't come to you over night. keep practicing and GL.

i woke up one day and got into my moms 4dr civic and pulled the e-break at a stop sign and did a couple dounts!! j/k!!:rolleyes:

i think you should listen to everyone! if theres more then 1 person said dounts is the foundation of drifting...then i think i might just is!

[RHS13KNetics]

Are you trying to do lame show car spinning donuts, or large radius controlled donuts?

the large ones but ya know.. being in a tiny lot doesnt help lol. we dont have many open lots down here to practice in

[RHS13KNetics]

eyyyy wtf is all this about.. yea im a noob i know that. and noobs ask noob questions. some of you have actually helped but whats the deal with all this negative BS.. ask a question and get Neg repp? went from +417 to -300 because of a noob question.. im just gonna stick to the for sale threads..

[Matej]

Start out with small donuts and then slowly go bigger, and when you get them down one way, start going the other way.
At the first practice event I've ever been to, everyone who hasn't drifted there before was required to do a few controlled donuts around a cone to show they have at least some car control down. I've drifted around parking lots before that, but I've never done a single donut, but I thought it turned out to be pretty easy, I spun out once and then I had it down, you just have to get used to how much power your car has.

[TRU_DAH-V]

Heres a video from the beginning of last year when Ueo came to Guam and held a drift school and mini competition. he taught donuts and transitioning to another donut then later in the day held a competition. it pretty much shows the basic setup for learning to drift.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-BmpI3_1-o

heres one from the end of the year to show the progression.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqBOheL0xIk

[Matej]

Wow those cement barriers were scary close, good to see no one's car got totalled, and it looks like those dudes learned to kill it, cool vids.

[TRU_DAH-V]

Yeah everyone was scared when we saw those barriers! one of the guys hit but it wasnt too bad. it helps us alot that Japan is close by and the drifters like to chill with us so we are learning alot.

[SoCal-s130]

Just don't come back asking what you need to fix after curbing your car. :bigok:

[TRU_DAH-V]

lol dont gotta worry about that theres no curbs...
Just light poles and barriers :bigok:

[SoCal-s130]

My post was directed towards the op.

[S13SilviaGirl]

Yeah everyone was scared when we saw those barriers! one of the guys hit but it wasnt too bad. it helps us alot that Japan is close by and the drifters like to chill with us so we are learning alot.

Cuz Guam is like the vacation spot for the Japanese! haha. Gawd, dare I say it? I miss some things in Guam! :tweak:

[Tops*]

Definitely learn donuts and figure-8's like most have already mentioned. They're the fundamentals of car control. In one of Keiichi Tsuchiya's drift technique videos with a red hachiroku, he takes very small steps in teaching how to drift. I believe the first few steps were 180 turn, 90 turn, donuts, then figure-8's. There's also a video of Ken Nomura teaching a businessman how to drift in his R34. He, as well, starts out with donuts of different radii to teach car control. I learned from watching these vids over and over again. I'm still learning. Take it easy, man.

I'm a little surprised someone hasn't posted these to help out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy7zANjiJJw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYpGbrYPSwk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWLdvBg0MP8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pqXqz1Ox80

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7Ack_i4dOw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6gzwWv9UrI

I still watch these vids..

[Dousan_PG]

i studied taniguchi and mostly koguchi videos FOREVEr. still do
those guys are the best
taniguchi's a robot
koguchi is a lunatic

i watched a koguchi video a good 6 mos before i got my 240sx in around aug '01

[arkive43]

yep, same here. if u havent seen drift bible more than a couple times why are u drifting...that was the main vid i watched over and over before i got my coupe.

[bamaboy]

http://www.ehow.com/how_2041864_make-donuts.html

follow the link......says it's easy

[RHS13KNetics]

Definitely learn donuts and figure-8's like most have already mentioned. They're the fundamentals of car control. In one of Keiichi Tsuchiya's drift technique videos with a red hachiroku, he takes very small steps in teaching how to drift. I believe the first few steps were 180 turn, 90 turn, donuts, then figure-8's. There's also a video of Ken Nomura teaching a businessman how to drift in his R34. He, as well, starts out with donuts of different radii to teach car control. I learned from watching these vids over and over again. I'm still learning. Take it easy, man.

I'm a little surprised someone hasn't posted these to help out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy7zANjiJJw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYpGbrYPSwk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWLdvBg0MP8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pqXqz1Ox80

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7Ack_i4dOw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6gzwWv9UrI

I still watch these vids..

Yea ive seen the drift bible and the nomuken vid aswell, its good stuff.

well all this advice drove me to practice more tonight and i finally felt "in control" got about 5 in a row now

[Z33dori]

OP here is a good vide o on how to do donuts....

courtesy of Shift-lock.net

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5AqUwarbKs

[azndoc]

You should be doing it until you throw up.

Then you'll be good.

lolz

Damn Colin got me all worked up talking about massaging the throttle.

lolz

[Dousan_PG]

i only get sick as a pseenger
driving not so much
wellmaybe after a LOT of donuts like 10 mins? no idea never did donuts so long.
passenger sick after 2 mins

bad driver and me passenger? sick after 30 seconds
taught donuts to so many newbs
almost puked on at least 80% of them!

hahaha

[thatdrifterguy]

Heres a video from the beginning of last year when Ueo came to Guam and held a drift school and mini competition. he taught donuts and transitioning to another donut then later in the day held a competition. it pretty much shows the basic setup for learning to drift.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-BmpI3_1-o

heres one from the end of the year to show the progression.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqBOheL0xIk

the guy in the silver zenki is pretty good:fawkd: lol.

damn everyone improved a lot compared from the beginning of the year. its funny seeing how bad some were compared to now.:bigok:

[Matej]

i only get sick as a pseenger
driving not so much
wellmaybe after a LOT of donuts like 10 mins? no idea never did donuts so long.
passenger sick after 2 mins
I took out my passenger door handle, it's funny to see people used to riding in 240's automatically reach out for it by instinct and get startled when they grab nothing, and then they start panicking looking for something to hold onto, no one wants to ride with me anymore haha.

[Mister.E]

i only get sick as a pseenger
driving not so much
wellmaybe after a LOT of donuts like 10 mins? no idea never did donuts so long.
passenger sick after 2 mins

bad driver and me passenger? sick after 30 seconds
taught donuts to so many newbs
almost puked on at least 80% of them!

hahaha

you and me both bro. i get sick really easy riding passenger while someone else is doing donuts

[TRU_DAH-V]

the guy in the silver zenki is pretty good:fawkd: lol.

damn everyone improved a lot compared from the beginning of the year. its funny seeing how bad some were compared to now.:bigok:

Yeah everyone got much better then the beginning of the year and that silver zenki is hott much better then the "FORPLAY".

[drifting.8]

I see in this thread lots of takes on drifting and whats the best way to learn.

i cant do donuts

never ever.

but i can drift 3rd gear and can control it

but no donuts for me.