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gsracer
12-23-2007, 05:05 PM
So i cut my quarter panels, im thinking im gonna do a mini tub as i didnt like the way it would have coe out if i had welded the inner fender back to the quarter.

I still have to straighten the cut a bit as it was getting late and i was running out of light.

What do you guys think is the best option?



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tiresmokes13
12-23-2007, 05:13 PM
i hate to see perfectly good panels get chopped up haha

nissan240sxkid
12-23-2007, 05:20 PM
it looked good before but good luck on new tubs...nice wheels

1CLNS14
12-23-2007, 05:34 PM
Wow scary., i wouldnt have the guts to do that. Good luck, cant wait to see how it comes out.

tt99ol
12-23-2007, 05:37 PM
yeah tub it it will look cleaner

20 til 3
12-23-2007, 05:43 PM
ballin

molding the 1/4's... or just riveting them on?

Overdose
12-23-2007, 05:44 PM
get some wide body Quarter Panels to slap on it now. and some candy paint ;)

Matej
12-23-2007, 05:45 PM
You should cut way more than that.

gsracer
12-23-2007, 05:48 PM
i havent decide to mold or rivet yet.

this is not the hood going on the car lol

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sfljdmej2
12-23-2007, 05:57 PM
looks like it gonna come out great. cant wait to see it on the street or at the next event down hear.

SoCal-s130
12-23-2007, 06:00 PM
That loooks wayyy better then a huge pull!

projectRDM
12-23-2007, 06:09 PM
Tub, just take a flat sheet of steel and roll it to the contour of the inner wheelhouse, weld a bead and you're done.

On another note, Kouki front? Why? You ruined it, I always liked your car.

thetopcow
12-23-2007, 06:12 PM
Take it from a body guy and a man who molded his quarters on. DON'T MOLD THEM!!! Just rivet them on. Seal up the metal really good then paint the quarter, then paint the over fender. Then rivet on the over fender. My reasoning is that: You will then have good corrosion protection underneath the new quarter and water will drain through the over fender rather than pooling in between the old and new quarter.

midnight zenki
12-23-2007, 06:42 PM
I second the why kouki question, but either way it's gonna look sick. What fenders front and rear did you use and are you happy with the fitment?

joefresh
12-23-2007, 06:46 PM
those tires are rediculous...i would cut the fender about 1'' above the body line

Full-Lock
12-23-2007, 07:08 PM
shit looks AWESOME!
what rotors are those?

thanks

ms!3
12-23-2007, 07:11 PM
looks good. please don't mold.

kingkilburn
12-23-2007, 07:32 PM
You could use trailer fenders for the tubs. I think I saw that on Muscle Car on SpikeTv.

gsracer
12-23-2007, 07:57 PM
I think what im gonna do is glue them on then remove the rivets and fill up the holes so the panel is smooth but bonded on. I dont really want to mold them.

As for why i went kouki, i really liked the whey it flowed as a zenki, i just really hate the foggy look of the zenki headlights , even the german ones. I wanted to update the look of the car a bit so thats why.

Gumballf355
12-23-2007, 08:04 PM
If you're planning on competition or tracking the car hard... just rivit the overfenders on. Molding them on is only for show cars and ballers with cash to burn. (Alot of extra work)

gsracer
12-23-2007, 08:11 PM
Yea no molding, just smooth panel bonded on with epoxy, that fusor shit

sbanzer123
12-23-2007, 09:07 PM
gsracer i love your car so much. everything about it is awsome. + rep for you

muddafakka
12-23-2007, 09:10 PM
Not quite on topic but...

When you get the chance, I wanna see more videos of your car!

PhilVia
12-23-2007, 09:20 PM
i havent decide to mold or rivet yet.



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/wiring-cage/IMG_5821.jpg



Waterproof sealant and Rivet that babie .... looking good!

projectdrifter
12-23-2007, 09:34 PM
rivit it. looks great man.

downshift_sideways
12-23-2007, 09:35 PM
Coming along real nice, Keep up the good work.

kyles1988
12-23-2007, 09:43 PM
lovin it. Lovin the meaty tires...stretched tires FTL!

jrocslider
12-23-2007, 09:56 PM
one of my favorite S14's ever

it looks good and sounds even better

i loved it as a zenki but dont blame you for goin kouki

DJButton
12-23-2007, 10:19 PM
Fantastic man, love it, love it.

gsracer
12-23-2007, 10:58 PM
got some more pics uploaded, just some spot welding in key areas.

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McRussellPants
12-23-2007, 11:12 PM
omg, someone actually stitch welded a chassis right.



touche.

nwmrkt
12-23-2007, 11:13 PM
err, i loved the flared stock fenders but the new ones too! Also let us know how the spot welds feel after? difference in handling?

nwmrkt
12-23-2007, 11:14 PM
omg, someone actually stitch welded a chassis right.



touche.
care to elaborate please?

gsracer
12-23-2007, 11:18 PM
Also let us know how the spot welds feel after? difference in handling?

I wont be able to tell you because havent been able to drive the car in a while since I blew the motor the day i got this,



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gsracer
12-23-2007, 11:20 PM
care to elaborate please?

a spot weld in between the factory spot welds is more than adequate to stiffen the chassis, any more than that is over kill and will likely create stress points in other areas.

nwmrkt
12-23-2007, 11:24 PM
a spot weld in between the factory spot welds is more than adequate to stiffen the chassis, any more than that is over kill and will likely create stress points in other areas.ic thanks, i may come to you on advice regarding this subject later if you dont mind ;). Btw is this car track only?

gsracer
12-23-2007, 11:25 PM
Btw is this car track only?


no but i dont daily drive it, i drive it on the street only occasionaly to meets and shows, the rest is track.

EJ253
12-24-2007, 01:41 AM
fuckin hot.
good job and keep it up

TougeLabs
12-24-2007, 03:17 AM
Yea i molded my rear qtrs did them myself took forever but the end result looks stock...I am a huge fan of riveted over fenders makes the car look mean as hell...nice look though man clean and that cage is sick...thats a maz cage ?
keep up the good work i wish i was not snowing and shitty all the time in ny so i can work on my car the exterior is done just need to get my cage and some other misc. things...cant wait to see what you do with it...

PhilVia
12-24-2007, 04:05 AM
Damn thats hard core solid

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Waaaaaaaa ....... please cover the wheels or sell them to me

ms!3
12-24-2007, 09:27 AM
cant wait to see progress. anymore sound clips of the vh? haha

Fries
12-24-2007, 10:53 AM
Clean car bro!

OBEEWON
12-28-2007, 08:36 AM
Man you sold Zenki's out. Still love the car. You should move that fender harness inside the engine bay.

hellaflush
12-28-2007, 10:03 AM
ive always wanted to ask you... your original pull on the rear... was that guard roller only? or did you go over it with some filler to smooth it and make a higher rise in the flare and repaint?

gsracer
12-29-2007, 09:09 AM
I used the fender roller on the og pull, no body work was ever done.

Hopefully ill have more progress this weekend

Slammed Assassin
12-29-2007, 09:14 AM
nice build man..

burnsauto
12-29-2007, 09:19 AM
yeah im interested in seeing where this build goes..

gsracer
12-29-2007, 11:38 AM
me to, lol im thinking of scrapping the vh45 for an rb 26, dont know yet though

oldschoolsilvia
12-29-2007, 12:02 PM
Nice build :yum:


lol interested in selling your zenki headlights :D

gsracer
12-29-2007, 05:48 PM
driverside, almost done

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The metal donor


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gsracer
12-30-2007, 05:11 PM
finishing up the driverside

no cracks / leaks

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got undercoat, looks glossy now but dries like stock , it looks like stcok you cant even tell from looking up in there, used it inside and out

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jacked up wheel doesnt hit anything good to go


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4 rivets just to make sure it fits right before i glue it on

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startinig passeneger side


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ThatGuy
12-30-2007, 05:15 PM
Oooh, sparks next the gas cap. :rawk:

Hahaha, looking pretty good. Can't wait to see it finished. I've always been a fan of your wheels and tire fitment. :bow:

rican_nick
12-30-2007, 05:28 PM
bare-footed metal work..lol we must be related.

works looking awesome man

Gumballf355
12-30-2007, 05:45 PM
hahahha... metal splinters inbetween your toes doesn't make for good dancing.

PROJECT240SX
12-30-2007, 07:43 PM
Fenders are coming along nice.

How do you like your Dewalt grinder? Been thinking of picking one up.

sxe
12-30-2007, 07:55 PM
NOOO!!!! the flairs lookd so clean, loks good, keep up the good work..

NICE WHEEELS!!

rps13sr20det
12-30-2007, 07:55 PM
tight ship....love it.

bo2o
12-30-2007, 08:28 PM
so going to mold or rivet?

unicoladron
12-30-2007, 08:55 PM
so going to mold or rivet?

he said he's going to glue them...or epoxy.

chibo
12-30-2007, 11:25 PM
me to, lol im thinking of scrapping the vh45 for an rb 26, dont know yet though
Why? I'd gotten the impression that you liked how the VH45 worked from previous posts but something has changed? Do they not hold up to abuse well?

I'm interested in how the handling feels with the VH compared to a KA... did it make it too nose heavy?

gsracer
12-31-2007, 12:29 AM
Why? I'd gotten the impression that you liked how the VH45 worked from previous posts but something has changed? Do they not hold up to abuse well?

I'm interested in how the handling feels with the VH compared to a KA... did it make it too nose heavy?



handling i found was just the same as the ka, but it did end up being about 50 lbs lighter in front after i removed all the crap.

I love the vh dont get me wrong its just the lack of aftermarket support, nothing i repeat nothing is made for this motor so if i get 330 whp i better be happy with it forever cuz thats it, at least with the rb theres something to do, plus it sounds great.

20 til 3
12-31-2007, 03:47 AM
idk about rb over the v8 lol... i know its hard to find parts, but have you thought of a sts style turbo setup(rear mount) and if you want n/a with it... figure out itbs :)... would be insane, but goddam hard haha

looking amazing, still sad its going to be a kouki now... but i'm sure i'll get over it

irax
12-31-2007, 08:38 AM
Please for the LOVE OF EVERYTHING S14 PLEASE repaint it the same color!

what you need are some ITB's and 180 degree headers and some cams, that should make you happy forever.

gsracer
12-31-2007, 09:05 AM
actually the car isn't gonna be green any more

Either bmw imola red and polish the wheels
mercedes gunmetal metalic and leave the wheels the way they are

Or

Paint the car flat black and powder coat the wheels and the lips in flat black. I think this will look hot especially with flat black lips

irax
12-31-2007, 09:22 AM
awww... i just cried a little, cuz thats the hottest stock color and looks fuckin perfect with a kit but no one does it :'(

CylonFrakker
12-31-2007, 09:51 AM
i agree that color is the hotness my first s14 was that color and I loved the look of it as well the fitment...

gsracer
12-31-2007, 10:48 AM
problem is the last three s14's I've had over the last 5 years have been green and before that my integra was green so I'm just a little bored of the color to say the least.

PoorMans180SX
12-31-2007, 11:18 AM
Wait wait...you blew the VH? Isn't that a perfect reason for an NA build?

I say new intake manifold, cams, 11:1 pistons, valves and springs.

Nice overfenders, it looks good. Really good.

idriveattz32
12-31-2007, 11:38 AM
looks like the work is coming along pretty well, i guess the ls1/2 isn't an option.

chibo
12-31-2007, 11:48 AM
Wait wait...you blew the VH? Isn't that a perfect reason for an NA build?

I say new intake manifold, cams, 11:1 pistons, valves and springs.

Nice overfenders, it looks good. Really good.
There is really no aftermarket for the VH45. I can't find any cams, not to mention there are four so it'll be $$.

There are very few, if any manifolds. I've yet to run across one, people seem to be doing ITB setups over on Hybrid Z with these engines.

etc.

PoorMans180SX
12-31-2007, 01:08 PM
Well poop.

You could always go custom with the intake. Cams too, but you're right, those are $$$.

Turbo then? I just think an RB after all that work would be lame.

codyace
12-31-2007, 01:50 PM
Love the fact that you're flushing in the kit....

Now could you also mold those front fender 'vent' thingies too? hehe....I mean, just so I can get an idea ;)

I love the vh dont get me wrong its just the lack of aftermarket support, nothing i repeat nothing is made for this motor so if i get 330 whp i better be happy with it forever cuz thats it, at least with the rb theres something to do, plus it sounds great.

Nothing beats a V8....

....with that said, you know deep down you want big boy ls1 power. Plenty of aftermarket there. Oh man, what a nice 450whp LS1 would do in your car....tire sponser anyone?

actually the car isn't gonna be green any more

Either bmw imola red and polish the wheels
mercedes gunmetal metalic and leave the wheels the way they are

Paint the car flat black and powder coat the wheels and the lips in flat black. I think this will look hot especially with flat black lips

I too love your stock color...my turbo altima was the same color, and I loved it when clean :D

However in my plain jane opinion only:


Red is to tacky. Leave that to the Bimmers

Gunmetal metallic would look ok, I love silver s14's

However if you paint that bitch flat black, you HAFTA leave the wheels alone. Rat rod body with bling wheels is the mofuggin ticket my friend :D My buddy shaved and rolled his MK3 GTI and put some baller Schmidts on with a polisheed lip they loook siccck....

PoorMans180SX
12-31-2007, 02:31 PM
Nothing beats a V8....

....with that said, you know deep down you want big boy ls1 power. Plenty of aftermarket there. Oh man, what a nice 450whp LS1 would do in your car....tire sponser anyone?



Fail.

twin-turbo VH would sound so much better. Blow-off, raspy DOHC V8 sounds, wastegate. Dual GT28's would spool so fast.

I'm tired of hearing how great the LS1 is. You didn't do it in the first place, don't do it now.

Oh, and you might have to sell me those long-tube headers. It might push me to do a VH swap in mine.

300hp owen
12-31-2007, 02:57 PM
hmmmmmm, widebody in flatblack on S1's, very nice idea.
but the mercedes gunmetallic would be sick.

the fender work looks amazing, nice pics too.
cant wait to see the finished setup!
damn those wheels are so sweet, oy oy oy!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)

codyace
12-31-2007, 03:02 PM
Fail.

Fail? Please. Lets use an even trendier term. You can't prove me that the VH is better in ANY shape or form, aside from intiial cost.

twin-turbo VH would sound so much better. Blow-off, raspy DOHC V8 sounds, wastegate. Dual GT28's would spool so fast.

You act like a LS1 sounds any worse? Please. Nice healthy head/cam LS1 will rock out, and sound bad bad bad (in such a good good good way).

I'm tired of hearing how great the LS1 is. You didn't do it in the first place, don't do it now.

I know I didn't do it in the first place, because, like you, I was a e-hater, that had no first hand experience and or knowledge of the engine. The more I palyed with them, the more I saw them in action, and the more I learned about them, the better they became. Oh, you broke something? Swing by the GM dealer to pick up any part in the book, for nothing. Trying doing that with an RB, VH, or other 'non common' v8 swap...

...and FWIW: If you were to talk to any of my friends, they all know what I would love to do .... Sell my s14, find a booger old s13, gut it, swap in an LS1...and well....rock out of course. I would love to have 'torque on demand' coming out of slow speed corners on track...not that my car is laggy, but it would be having 50-100 more ft lbs at the same spot in the RPM range...

Unless you have ANY LSx experience, please don't judge. I don't tell pilots learn how to fly when the plane comes down hard on a landing do I?

....I wish I could be involved in an grown up discussion about LSx motors in S chassis cars, however everytime one comes up, some 'dare to be different' sack rider comes and and ruins it. Performance > being different, or being brand loyal. The LSx is the superior engine.

PoorMans180SX
12-31-2007, 03:23 PM
Say what you want. I know my engines. I know all the facts behind the LSx swap. I have seen several swaps in person. "Superior" is a statement of your opinion.

I was talking to gsracer. I just don't want him to do it.

/argument

McRussellPants
12-31-2007, 03:53 PM
Fail? Please. Lets use an even trendier term.

I can agree to that.

You act like a LS1 sounds any worse? Please. Nice healthy head/cam LS1 will rock out, and sound bad bad bad (in such a good good good way).

LSx's sound like dicks without long tubes, and rev like shit without flywheels. Maybe he has the money to make longtubes, but they're a bitch to fit in the S13, and its LSx's only hope of being not completely weak to drive.


I know I didn't do it in the first place, because, like you, I was a e-hater, that had no first hand experience and or knowledge of the engine. The more I palyed with them, the more I saw them in action, and the more I learned about them, the better they became. Oh, you broke something? Swing by the GM dealer to pick up any part in the book, for nothing. Trying doing that with an RB, VH, or other 'non common' v8 swap...

My only geuss on this, is that nissan people are too poor to realize you can go to nissan and get any part you need, at least in the VKs case, and most dealers can get you any international part if they've got the computer to look it up.

....I wish I could be involved in an grown up discussion about LSx motors in S chassis cars, however everytime one comes up, some 'dare to be different' sack rider comes and and ruins it. Performance > being different, or being brand loyal. The LSx is the superior engine.

Why not just buy a FRC or Z06 and have a faster car? S13s blow dicks man. Thats my deal, LS1 drifting isn't entertaining at all, and the only thing S-chassis does well is drift. so I don't get it.

"LS1 is superior" is the battle cry of people who have only seen them on paper, and have pipe dreams about 400ftlbs from 2k to 6k. they're fun and they do burnouts like mad. but a 3071 car is more entertaining to drive imo.

genericforumname
12-31-2007, 04:21 PM
My only geuss on this, is that nissan people are too poor to realize you can go to nissan and get any part you need, at least in the VKs case, and most dealers can get you any international part if they've got the computer to look it up.

Why not just buy a FRC or Z06 and have a faster car? S13s blow dicks man. Thats my deal, LS1 drifting isn't entertaining at all, and the only thing S-chassis does well is drift. so I don't get it.

wow, don't tell that to the members of this board that race s-chassis cars:doh:

oh, and most dealers cant get "international parts" thats usually only when the person working in the parts department actually knows what they're doing or is an enthusiast and knows what you're looking for, which is not that often

gsracer
12-31-2007, 04:44 PM
ill probly stick with the vh and put a vortech on it.

anyways back on topic

this is the paint and wheel color scheme im liking at the moment ala rahl s15.



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SoSideways
12-31-2007, 05:10 PM
^That satin black is so hawt.

If you end up doing it, you'll be my #1 hero again lol

ThatGuy
12-31-2007, 05:15 PM
Flat Black with Gunmetal powder coat on the wheels looks pretty good.

Flat Black gets confused easily with crappy primer. There are many color choices available if you just like the Satin finish. Even Metallics.

Zilvia4eva
12-31-2007, 05:43 PM
Props to you and thanks again for the fender work....goodluck

:bigok:

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codyace
12-31-2007, 06:10 PM
I can agree to that.

I just hate that effin term. It's like the whole 'owned' deal.

LSx's sound like dicks without long tubes,

If you cut me, I'd bleed Ford blue, so in general I don't think they're the best sounding V8, but they sound fantastic with a nice set of Kooks and some cutouts...

and rev like shit without flywheels. Maybe he has the money to make longtubes, but they're a bitch to fit in the S13, and its LSx's only hope of being not completely weak to drive.

I wouldn't say they rev like shit...then again I grew up v8, so to me they aren't bad at all. Maybe not as rev happy as 302's, but close!


My only geuss on this, is that nissan people are too poor to realize you can go to nissan and get any part you need, at least in the VKs case, and most dealers can get you any international part if they've got the computer to look it up.

I hate having to wait days for parts. I'm lucky to deal with two very very good parts departments through our shop, and have never had an issue of getting international parts either. I can agree however to their being some parts desks with uber lazy people. I remember a guy breaking down up @ the Glen, calling a dealership a half hour south, the parts guy saying 'we can't get that at all', then me calling back to my town, and the guy saying 'we can get it in two days' (throttle cable)....grrr lazy parts desks...



Why not just buy a FRC or Z06 and have a faster car? S13s blow dicks man. Thats my deal, LS1 drifting isn't entertaining at all, and the only thing S-chassis does well is drift. so I don't get it.

Can't afford a Z06, as much as I want one (C5 though please).

Ok, so maybe I'd stick with my s14 ;)

And they corner pretty well if setup properly.

I guess to me, an S chassis car doesn't really excel at anything, but can do many things 'well'. Good enough for me, being one dimensional for a non devoted car isn't fun for me at this point in my life...

"LS1 is superior" is the battle cry of people who have only seen them on paper, and have pipe dreams about 400ftlbs from 2k to 6k. they're fun and they do burnouts like mad. but a 3071 car is more entertaining to drive imo.

Having two 440+ whp N/A ones near me (well one makes 470, 620 on a 150 shot, and just shy of 700 on the 250....the other being a big boy stalled auto), I know ALL about what they are good and not good at.

They respond excellent to mods, aren't very expensive to mod, and last all day long at that power level. If I could find that one video of the First Gen Camaro drift car (I know not an LSx, but the american v8 point remains the same) where the driver is like 'there ain't nothing like all american horsepower, no fancy turbo gauges, no fancy widebands', that is what I would post now...

In a light ass little car, with real tires, and a good suspension, it would be one heck of a runner....man, 2600ish lbs, 265-285 R compounds on each corner, 400 ft lbs and HP....talk abotu scary. If my car already out runs Vettes, I would hate to see it with more torque :D

And I'll pass on a 3071r car....to much of a '2 stroke dirtbike' type of powerband. The only thing worse than lag is humping a cousin. I'll gladly stick with my 2871r powerband.

With me not enjoying drift at all, and having a hardon for a nice long, falt useable torque curve, I will naturally be biased to smaller turbos, or v8's. Why rev to the moon for power....power from 2500k-7k or from 4500-8k? The choice is toooo easy

ill probly stick with the vh and put a vortech on it.

anyways back on topic

this is the paint and wheel color scheme im liking at the moment ala rahl s15.



Incredible looking car :D

I tried reading, but mut have skipped over it, but what size Rear tire do you run with?

PoorMans180SX
12-31-2007, 06:23 PM
305 width rear tire.

gsracer
12-31-2007, 06:24 PM
315 falken azenis rt615

ALEXTHESUS*PECT
12-31-2007, 06:25 PM
ill probly stick with the vh and put a vortech on it.

anyways back on topic

this is the paint and wheel color scheme im liking at the moment ala rahl s15.



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/DSC01763.jpg

that shit looks super clean!:faint:

irax
12-31-2007, 06:37 PM
I love how this thread turned into bickering about what motor to replace the vh with.

gsracer
12-31-2007, 06:48 PM
lol, i know.

hellaflush
12-31-2007, 07:09 PM
coming along nicely

check your inbox gsr :)

McRussellPants
12-31-2007, 07:13 PM
They respond excellent to mods, aren't very expensive to mod, and last all day long at that power level. If I could find that one video of the First Gen Camaro drift car (I know not an LSx, but the american v8 point remains the same) where the driver is like 'there ain't nothing like all american horsepower, no fancy turbo gauges, no fancy widebands', that is what I would post now...


First off, don't kid yourself, LS1 is retarded expensive.

[QUOTE=codyace;1739878]In a light ass little car, with real tires, and a good suspension, it would be one heck of a runner....man, 2600ish lbs, 265-285 R compounds on each corner, 400 ft lbs and HP....talk abotu scary. If my car already out runs Vettes, I would hate to see it with more torque :D

Don't get me wrong, its quick. The fastest 240 I've ridden in is an LS1 car.

450whp, 255/275 2500lbs.

it can also mask bad driving really well due to the torque and powerband, if you know what you're doing it can do pretty funny stuff though.

its just not my cup of tea, If I wanted a fast car it would be a vette. because a vette on tire is faster than 90% of 240SXs


And I'll pass on a 3071r car....to much of a '2 stroke dirtbike' type of powerband. The only thing worse than lag is humping a cousin. I'll gladly stick with my 2871r powerband.

I don't know what 3071 you rode in to complain about powerband, but it was prolly broke

With me not enjoying drift at all, and having a hardon for a nice long, falt useable torque curve, I will naturally be biased to smaller turbos, or v8's. Why rev to the moon for power....power from 2500k-7k or from 4500-8k? The choice is toooo easy

its fun but not great imo.

dvdevo
12-31-2007, 07:35 PM
any new developments on the car? or pics of motor?

300hp owen
12-31-2007, 07:43 PM
smoothy satin black like that s15 would be totally badass for sure.

you make me mad I didnt go for 10.5" or 11" rears on my wide FC :(

EDacIouSX
01-01-2008, 12:18 AM
i hate to see perfectly good panels get chopped up haha

me too...

at leasti ts coming out nice though.

McRussellPants
01-01-2008, 09:19 AM
Omg, I just started drilling to spot my frame runners and shock towers.



what a hooker, I can't beleive people do this to their entire car.

codyace
01-01-2008, 03:50 PM
315's is no joke for sure!


and are you going to be filling in the front vents at all???


and thanks for the negy rep (from whoever) :D I love no name reps haha.

gsracer
01-01-2008, 05:03 PM
I took a different approach on the passener side as the inner wheel house was so drasticly different from the drivers side i was able to reuse alot of the metal savin me a lot of time, anyway heres the pics.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/wiring-cage/IMG_5964.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/wiring-cage/IMG_5968.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/wiring-cage/IMG_5971.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/wiring-cage/IMG_5973.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/wiring-cage/IMG_5974.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/wiring-cage/IMG_5976.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/wiring-cage/IMG_5980.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/wiring-cage/IMG_5981.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/wiring-cage/IMG_5984.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/wiring-cage/IMG_5986.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/wiring-cage/IMG_5997.jpg





at this time id like to thank origin gor making such a subpar product.
any thought on what to do with this??


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/wiring-cage/IMG_5989.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/wiring-cage/IMG_5990.jpg

ryan hagen
01-01-2008, 05:48 PM
i used origin on my s13, i had to cut the part that went around the tail light off, and the parts that hung below the lower body line. when they molded them the edges of those areas like twisted, also had some thickness sanding issues to even the edges before 3m and rivits.

fukdishiet
01-01-2008, 05:58 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/DSC01763.jpg


anymore pictures of this car?

RHS13KNetics
01-01-2008, 06:07 PM
sexy s14, i can already see that thing glistening

OptionZero
01-01-2008, 06:52 PM
anymore pictures of this car?

there is a pic request thread

300hp owen
01-02-2008, 08:41 AM
cut the tail end off and add some bondo under the panel so it fits like you want it to?

I had the same issue on my FC. also on my FC, I was able to do both inner wheel wells like you did on your 2nd one. cut only the outer metal along the wheel well arc then use the inner sheetmetal (the roof of the wheel well) to cover the gap, just slice it for flexibility and then peel out the metal to meet with the outer metal, and weld to the outer metal then cut the extra off. easy peasy.

Gumballf355
01-02-2008, 02:15 PM
cut the corners off, they're useless.

deesz
01-02-2008, 02:26 PM
If you're planning on competition or tracking the car hard... just rivit the overfenders on. Molding them on is only for show cars and ballers with cash to burn. (Alot of extra work)


I agree. Also if it is an everyday driver or track, using epoxy over time will promote cracking in the paint. epoxy will give a little where as rivets wont and you wont have to worry about cracked paint. you can get rivets to smooth out real nice where you cant tell that they are there...

i would say rivet it...

SlideWell
01-02-2008, 08:45 PM
nice post, good lookin DYI

RedSVTFlareside
01-02-2008, 10:43 PM
looks very nice...

Jlee
01-11-2008, 03:18 PM
any new updates? your s14 is one of my favorites!! positive rep for you.. these pictures will help me alot when i throw overfenders on my s14. extremely helpfull.

Jon

ps. i loved the crazy pull before too... and if you don't mind me asking.. what are the specs on your wheels?

PoorMans180SX
01-11-2008, 03:36 PM
18 by 10 265/30 F
18 by 11 295/30 R

I want updates as well!

YucA
01-11-2008, 03:45 PM
18 by 10 265/30 F
18 by 11 295/30 R

I want updates as well!

315's in the rearrrrrrr

KwKouki
01-11-2008, 04:08 PM
you work too slow, I hate you for going Kouki.

I need to talk to you btw, you suck at getting back to people

bziggers13
01-11-2008, 04:47 PM
lookin good!
use heat and form it around the end?
seems like it'd work.. frp are weak against heat, right?

bardabe
01-11-2008, 06:58 PM
cut the tail end off and add some bondo under the panel so it fits like you want it to?

I had the same issue on my FC. also on my FC, I was able to do both inner wheel wells like you did on your 2nd one. cut only the outer metal along the wheel well arc then use the inner sheetmetal (the roof of the wheel well) to cover the gap, just slice it for flexibility and then peel out the metal to meet with the outer metal, and weld to the outer metal then cut the extra off. easy peasy.

whatever you do DON'T I repeat DON'T use bondo. fuck bondo bondo is used to fill MINOR inperfections, use Kitty hair. the can look kind of like bondo but its allot different. you are pretty much laying down actual fiberglass like if it was bondo. it will flex and it won't crack. so mold it with that. and once you got it for the most part straight, and u wanna be anal and make it look like glass just break out a real nice thin layer of body filler aka bondo and make it look smooth as glass. i molded quite a few wide body's when i worked @ a body shop so take it from my experience. DON'T MOLD WITH BONDO.

dr1ft32
01-11-2008, 09:07 PM
beautiful work buddy. cant wait to see the turn around gl

irax
01-12-2008, 07:34 AM
origin rear fenders used to be know for their perfect fit... used to be

gsracer
01-12-2008, 07:59 AM
yea the fitment sucks now, im having such a problem gettig those rears to fit right you dont know, i hope to be done today actually.

gsracer
01-12-2008, 02:54 PM
finnally got the damn thing to fit decent, heres some pics


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/wiring-cage/IMG_6005.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/wiring-cage/IMG_6007.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/wiring-cage/IMG_6013.jpg



and just for fun


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/wiring-cage/IMG_6012.jpg

Tearlessj
01-12-2008, 03:00 PM
I love those tires.

Sweet looking dog btw.

1CLNS14
01-12-2008, 03:04 PM
fucking nuts! love wheels,

ross.cottrill
07-20-2008, 06:40 PM
Take it from a body guy and a man who molded his quarters on. DON'T MOLD THEM!!! Just rivet them on. Seal up the metal really good then paint the quarter, then paint the over fender. Then rivet on the over fender. My reasoning is that: You will then have good corrosion protection underneath the new quarter and water will drain through the over fender rather than pooling in between the old and new quarter.

?im a body guy too...if you mold the quarters on there shouldnt be a (puddle)effect as it would be molded/smoothed out.as long as the panel is sealed underneath there shouldnt be a corrosion problem.also if your reallt worried about that issue you coulg seal it and then run a sheet of 3m over it.they use this method on new cars(usually seen underneath the rear quarters where the bumper meets up with it.)they do this so that if the chassis flexis abit it wont chaffe the metal.Hope that helps and sorry to ramble on!!

1CLNS14
10-23-2008, 08:43 AM
Any Updates? Did this ever get done?

Om1kron
10-23-2008, 09:03 AM
http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/210776-450sx-part-2-a.html?highlight=450sx

he moved onto the motor.