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whomiked
12-19-2007, 11:53 PM
Alright well heres whats going on. When ever i'm turning sort of hard the wheel jerks in the direction i'm turning forcing the car to swerve a bit. Anyone have any ideas what could be wrong???

Here are the suspension mods I have:
Tein inner and outer tie rods
Poly Urethane control arm/tension rod/steering rack bushings
Cusco coilovers

Dousan_PG
12-19-2007, 11:55 PM
stuff could be bent
bushings can be blow
could be out of alignment
why dont u get under there and see

we cant be internet mechanic.

rlpinoy
12-20-2007, 12:29 AM
might be messed up rack and pinion but can also be many things. better take it to an alignment shop and have them look at it.

DaPCWiz
12-20-2007, 07:28 AM
honestly if its fairly minor... my car used to do that too. I was just low on power steering fluid. Topped it off and bam, problem solved. check that before anything else...

(well to be perfectly honest, I actually changed the PS pump, then realized that I was an idiot and the old pump was fine, fluid level was just low... but I wanted to make a long story short, lol)

aznrib
12-20-2007, 07:35 AM
honestly if its fairly minor... my car used to do that too. I was just low on power steering fluid. Topped it off and bam, problem solved. check that before anything else...

(well to be perfectly honest, I actually changed the PS pump, then realized that I was an idiot and the old pump was fine, fluid level was just low... but I wanted to make a long story short, lol)

so thats what it was..... alex must have been pissed hahah

DaPCWiz
12-20-2007, 07:42 AM
so thats what it was..... alex must have been pissed hahah

alex? you mean rockstar? lol... I actually made Carlos change my pump, in exchange for some parts I gave him, lol. could've done it myself... but I was lazy.

g6civcx
12-20-2007, 08:08 AM
When ever i'm turning sort of hard the wheel jerks in the direction i'm turning forcing the car to swerve a bit. Anyone have any ideas what could be wrong???

Wait a minute. Let me understand the question.

You turn the wheel "sort of hard". The wheel jerks in the direction you turn and the car swerves.

How about stop turning the wheel "sort of hard"?

Here are the suspension mods I have:
Tein inner and outer tie rods
Poly Urethane control arm/tension rod/steering rack bushings
Cusco coilovers

Otherwise, your geometry needs to be adjusted, or you're just not used to how a vehicle should respond. Solid bushings = no sloppiness = instant response.

98s14inaz
12-20-2007, 09:34 AM
honestly if its fairly minor... my car used to do that too. I was just low on power steering fluid. Topped it off and bam, problem solved. check that before anything else...

(well to be perfectly honest, I actually changed the PS pump, then realized that I was an idiot and the old pump was fine, fluid level was just low... but I wanted to make a long story short, lol)

Nissan ps pumps take import compatible atf iirc.

whomiked
12-20-2007, 10:14 AM
Wait a minute. Let me understand the question.

You turn the wheel "sort of hard". The wheel jerks in the direction you turn and the car swerves.

How about stop turning the wheel "sort of hard"?



Otherwise, your geometry needs to be adjusted, or you're just not used to how a vehicle should respond. Solid bushings = no sloppiness = instant response.

Well when i'm taking a hard turn, it jerks more into the direction then i'm actually turning it.

SHIFT_*grind*
12-20-2007, 10:42 AM
So you're saying it steers tighter? I.E. further than it used to with the same turn of the steering wheel?

If so, that's probably a result of your Tein tie rods, if you installed the spacer. I had Tein tie rods with the spacer installed on my old S13, and I could make a U-turn on a small 2-lane road.

DaPCWiz
12-20-2007, 12:18 PM
Well when i'm taking a hard turn, it jerks more into the direction then i'm actually turning it.

Its called oversteer... it happens when the tail comes out on a rwd car... :rofl:

nah seriously tho, top off the power steering fluid. You might want to bleed it too.... after you top it off, with the car running, and power steering fluid cap open, cut the wheel all the way left and right a few times. You should see air bubbles come out. Top it off again, and close it up. Instant better. air bubbles in the power steering lines lead to inconsistency in fluid pressure, esp when you are turning hard. This will vary the effectiveness of the power steering and make it get stiffer and softer as you turn.

whomiked
12-20-2007, 01:49 PM
Its called oversteer... it happens when the tail comes out on a rwd car... :rofl:

nah seriously tho, top off the power steering fluid. You might want to bleed it too.... after you top it off, with the car running, and power steering fluid cap open, cut the wheel all the way left and right a few times. You should see air bubbles come out. Top it off again, and close it up. Instant better. air bubbles in the power steering lines lead to inconsistency in fluid pressure, esp when you are turning hard. This will vary the effectiveness of the power steering and make it get stiffer and softer as you turn.

Alright thanks, i'll give this a shot right now.

Does anyone know if you're supposed to install the lock plates when you install the spacers with the Tein tie rods?

DaPCWiz
12-20-2007, 09:30 PM
Alright thanks, i'll give this a shot right now.

Does anyone know if you're supposed to install the lock plates when you install the spacers with the Tein tie rods?

the lock plates don't fit when you use steering angle spacers. I used loctite on the threads when I installed mine, and have done the same on friends' cars.

whomiked
12-20-2007, 10:05 PM
the lock plates don't fit when you use steering angle spacers. I used loctite on the threads when I installed mine, and have done the same on friends' cars.

Hmm... well some how we got it to fit. Maybe that could be the issue.

DaPCWiz
12-20-2007, 10:09 PM
Hmm... well some how we got it to fit. Maybe that could be the issue.

you can get them to fit, but they will only sit around the spacer, not the actual inner tie rod. Maybe that's what you did? In either case, it should have no effect on the consistency of the steering...