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luke91
10-02-2002, 01:31 PM
First of all, what do oil catch cans do?

I thought they were used to keep oil out of the intercooler pipes, but I'm not sure.  

Anyway, who makes some nice ones, and where can I find them?

How do I route the vaccum lines, and hook one up?  Any help is greatly appreciated.  

--luke

Jeff240sx
10-02-2002, 01:47 PM
Dude.  You want one, but don't know what it does.  That is entirely too stupid.

It is used only for drag strips, and other race tracks.  It prevents oil from dripping onto the track.  Hence, "Catch"Can. You don't need one.
-Jeff

Foxcolt
10-02-2002, 01:59 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Jeff240sx @ Oct. 02 2002,2:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Dude. You want one, but don't know what it does. That is entirely too stupid.

It is used only for drag strips, and other race tracks. It prevents oil from dripping onto the track. Hence, "Catch"Can. You don't need one.
-Jeff</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
It was my understanding that a catch can prevents blow through. Therefore keeping oil out of your intercooler pipes etc..

damn must be wrong then...oh well

Jed

Edit: I think pdm-racing sells some nice one's. Greddy has one but it's boku bucks. Don't know what motor you have so I can't tell you how to install it.

Beef
10-02-2002, 02:08 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Jeff240sx @ Oct. 02 2002,3:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Dude. You want one, but don't know what it does. That is entirely too stupid.

It is used only for drag strips, and other race tracks. It prevents oil from dripping onto the track. Hence, "Catch"Can. You don't need one.
-Jeff</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
...and you're a real bright one too. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzz:'>

An oil catch can is used to prevent oil from recirculating back in your motor. It is primarily used for anyone that has a forced induction or high revving motor. Whether or not someone needs one depends on there set up and application.

The implication that it is only necessary for track use is ludacris. Oil dripping from your motor on the street is ok then, right?

You can get all sizes and brands of catch cans. I have the GReddy catch can. Other brands are readily available such as Cusco, Uras, Moroso, etc.

One more edit... &nbsp;There's no vaccuum lines to hook up. &nbsp;Simply route a hose from the breather to the catch can and you're done.

luke91
10-02-2002, 02:14 PM
Dude, Jeff240sx, you sound like, like, an ass, dude. &nbsp;

You don't even know who I am, and you want to start with me. &nbsp;"That's entirely too stupid." &nbsp;Dude. &nbsp;Dude. &nbsp;Dude.

I want to find a way to keep oil out of my intercooler and piping, and if an oil catch can will do that, then that's what I want. &nbsp;That's why I ASKED. &nbsp;Dude.

Guess what?
read this:

"Greddy Oil Catch Tank catches the oil and moisture in the blow-by gases that causes carbon and sludge build-up in the intake system and the engine. It keeps the engine clean even under hard driving conditions."

That's a quote from Greddy, regarding their oil catch cans. &nbsp;Dude. &nbsp;

How does it "prevent oil from dripping onto the track", as you claim? &nbsp;I'm interested.

Beef
10-02-2002, 02:16 PM
It prevents oil from dripping onto the track/surface because a lot of people just put a breather filter on the valve cover rather than a proper oil catch can.

luke91
10-02-2002, 02:20 PM
I'm being taught about oil catch cans by someone who spent $13,100 &nbsp;to be able to "chirp 2nd and 3rd" and run 14.8 in the quarter...

That's priceless

luke91
10-02-2002, 02:22 PM
Good answer, beef. &nbsp;I guess it does help with oil spillage.
Thanks

uiuc240
10-02-2002, 02:57 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Beef @ Oct. 02 2002,3:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The implication that it is only necessary for track use is ludacris. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Ludacris is a rapper.

Ludicrous is a word.

Just FYI Kieth...:)

Eric

Jeff240sx
10-02-2002, 03:00 PM
Yup. &nbsp;I am an ass.
Also... can you chirp 3rd on Z-rated tire with an AUTOMATIC?
Anyway... it's retarded to say you want something that you don't know what it does. &nbsp;It's almost like saying that you want an RB26DETT, but you don't know if it gives more power than a stock engine.
And yes! &nbsp;The main thing that catch cans are used for are tracks. &nbsp;Just as beef said, people put air filters on the end of their PCV valve, and oil pressure builds under the crankcase, and forces oil through the element. &nbsp;This only happens under high load conditions, such as drag racing, and staying in high revs for a long time. &nbsp;
Don't tell me that you leak oil driving around town, or I will tell you that your engine has a problem. &nbsp;I don't see anyone staying in the upper rev range for 16 seconds on the street, or you would be doing 90. &nbsp;And you don't autocross on the street, either!
And the term "blowby" is usually used pertaining to oil passing between piston rings. &nbsp;A catchcan will not change the fact that a car is running on shitty rings.
Any other flames?
-Jeff

Beef
10-02-2002, 03:13 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (uiuc240 @ Oct. 02 2002,4:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteBegin--Beef+Oct. 02 2002,3<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Beef @ Oct. 02 2002,3<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>8)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The implication that it is only necessary for track use is ludacris. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Ludacris is a rapper.

Ludicrous is a word.

Just FYI Kieth...:)

Eric</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I was trying to be funny (and failed evidently!<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> &nbsp; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

...and my name is spelled Keith.

So yeah...take that! &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>

luke91
10-02-2002, 05:12 PM
nope.

adey
10-02-2002, 05:51 PM
Coh! POST SLUT!
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (luke91 @ Oct. 02 2002,4:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">nope.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I think Sard makes them too. they are, in most cases, engine bay "dress up" items -- i.e. they look cool in there even though you probably don't need one.
"...Hmmm, I'm going to speedrialUSA next month, what a good excuse to buy an oil catch can..." <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'> Or maybe I should just spend that money on a fat rear sway bar and tires!! heh heh.

drifterx
10-03-2002, 09:53 AM
OKOK!!! for anyone that puts something in there car and dont see any advantage or dont know why they r doing it, well i think that is dumb.....

but if u dont know what it does technically but u know u get more HP from it then i guess that isnt dumb at all.....

better question is "what is an oil catch can?" or "what does a oil catch can do?"

HippoSleek
10-03-2002, 09:56 AM
Yeah - catch cans are a waste of money. &nbsp;They're right up there with branded oil caps and plug wire covers. &nbsp;

If you have a problem with head pressure leading to clogging of the PCV valve/filter, you might want a catch can. &nbsp;A catch can can be anything from a m4d tizzite Greddy or Cusco unit to a beer can and a piece of tubing. &nbsp;There is NO difference!!!!
When I was at the National Grand Prix in DC, I noticed that many of the Speed WC cars had catch cans for either the tranny or the motor. &nbsp;Most were soda or beer cans - none were Greddy.

bbp
10-03-2002, 10:07 AM
I use a catch can on my track car. It doesn't catch much (fortunately), but there is always a little oil in it. Without the can that oil would be dumped back into the intake.

The car is driven pretty hard, full throttle for extended periods of time. Astreet car doesn't see that kind of driving all the time (I hope not).

BTW, QUOTE]And the term "blowby" is usually used pertaining to oil passing between piston rings. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Isn't blowby usually pertaining to compression passing thru the rings, not oil. It is the compression escaping past the rings that causes the crankcase to pressurize and blow oil out the breather. As noted, gets worse as the rings wear.

drifterx
10-03-2002, 10:10 AM
i see what u guys are talking abt now..... cuz on my eclipse GST i can feel a little bit of oil stains inside the intake pipe... it isnt anything major but yea u can feel a little bit

luke91
10-03-2002, 12:38 PM
You're all a bunch of haters. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'>

Drifterx
you're being ignorant. &nbsp;Part of my question WAS, "How do they work". &nbsp;I was looking for answers like, "they work well" or, "they suck ass". &nbsp;I didn't get any. &nbsp;

Hipposleek: &nbsp;I'm not about to rig up a beer can for a catch can. &nbsp;I don't care if it works or not, it's ugly. &nbsp;It looks like ass. &nbsp;

bbp: &nbsp;I do drive my car at high throttle or high rpm for extended periods of time. &nbsp;That's called having fun. &nbsp;That's why we build our cars. &nbsp;There's nothing wrong with that, as long as you're not wreckless. &nbsp;

drifterx again:
That little bit of oil in your intercooler piping is also in your intercooler, too. &nbsp;Guess what? &nbsp;Oil has a hard time conducting heat. &nbsp;That means that you intercooler isn't working as efficiently as it could be. &nbsp;

I have oil coming out of my blow-off vavle. &nbsp;Part of this is caused by worn-out oil seals in my turbo. &nbsp;The other part is because the turbo produces high boost all day long. &nbsp;I beat the f&ck out of it and love every minute of it. &nbsp;If a catch can will help me out a little bit, then what's the harm? &nbsp;It's only a hundred bucks or so, it's not like it's a major fu&king investment. &nbsp;And it sure beats a beer can.

--luke

bbp
10-03-2002, 03:48 PM
dood, relax.

i was trying to help you out. &nbsp;the car shouldn't blow that much oil on the street no matter how hard you drive, as someone mentioned before, there is another problem if that is the case. (your leaking oils seals)

there is no harm in dropping $100 bucks in a catch can, it's your money. &nbsp;

one more thing, Alice, don't ask question's if you can't handle the answers.

luke91
10-03-2002, 09:41 PM
bbp, I didn't mean any respect with my last post. &nbsp;I re-read it just now, and I understand how you could've thought I was beign disrespectful. &nbsp;Sorry. &nbsp;I appreciate you trying to help me out.

But, what answers can't I handle, exactly? &nbsp;And who the hell is Alice, hombre?

--luke

luke91
10-03-2002, 09:43 PM
"bbp, I didn't mean any respect with my last post"

what I meant was:

bbp, I didn't mean any DISrespect with my last post. &nbsp;

--luke