watcha guys think? (go turbo?)

[HellaSlowAndOld]

<(A little update on page two )> :D


So i have my '92 SE 240sx for almost three months now, it almost has 200Kmiles on it (199,334 to be exact) the car is in SUPER good condition, yesterday i did a leak down lest, heres what i got:

cylinder 1: 180
cylinder 2: 178
cylinder 3: 175
cylinder 4: 180

Also did a fuel pressure test and got around 38psi at idle.

all four cylinders held compression good as well. So far i put new NGK spark plugs, new fuel filter. tested the distributer and wires, which tested out good and look like there not that old, car has a good alternator and starter, got a vlsd but didn't install it yet, and the car has no oil leaks (YAY!) everything works so far. and everything is stock ex; exhaust intake suspension all stock.

So what do u guys think, what would u do? turbo? or stick to n/a?

if i stay n/a my plans would be header 4-2-1, 2 1/2 exhaust, and maybe intake? and later down the road bigger injectors and maybe a slight tune?

KA24DET sounds so good right now lol! i wanna hear what u guys would do.

Current state
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee116/WRX240SX/P1000281.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee116/WRX240SX/P1000275.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee116/WRX240SX/P1000283.jpg

[Deftec]

Wow....clean S13. I'd keep it in good shape like that man, and find another one to build up.

[S14DB]

How much oil does it consume between changes?

[civilized_drifter]

super clean car, if i had a clean car i wouldnt mess with it. find a beater

[916S14]

if you can keep it that clean while turboing it and modding it go for it. And you should buy my gasket kit even though it doesnt leak, new gaskets wont hurt =)

[burnsauto]

see...now with situations like this, im torn.

its a super clean chassis and it'd be fun. if you did a really good and clean job on the turbo install...it'd be awesome.


or.. its a super clean chassis...and shouldnt be fucked with (10 years from now its going to be next to impossible to find a stock s13 in this good of shape.)

[jussjepbrox]

Ka-t is a beast and u have a healthy engine DO IT if u got the money

[statik]

wow thats really clean for the mileage. I'm assuming you did a compression test, and not a leakdown, based on those numbers. I would do a leakdown to see how the rings are holding up, then decide on a turbo.

[HellaSlowAndOld]

wow thats really clean for the mileage. I'm assuming you did a compression test, and not a leakdown, based on those numbers. I would do a leakdown to see how the rings are holding up, then decide on a turbo.

what u mean exactly?

[Deftec]

I still wouldn't touch it man, too beautiful of a car to screw up. A few years from now, it'll be like finding a stock hemi cuda(without the power or name haha).

FIND ANOTHER BEATER AND DON'T MOLEST THISSSSS

[HellaSlowAndOld]

How much oil does it consume between changes?

i haven't done any old changes on the car yet, i had it almost three months, and put 1.8K miles on the oil that was put in right when i bought it, i got the car at a Nissan dealership, and it has the penzoil sticker =)

[lflkajfj12123]

even better chasis to molest!

don't listen to that crap to find a shittier car to molest

if you start with a good car in the beginning you'll be happier

[jackjack]

crazy. i have almost the same thing. mileage and condition of motor, except its a 95. i say go for it.

[pignose4life]

yeah you should go for it, if the car is in tip top condition it will handle the turbo much better and longer than a beater.
super clean car make a build thread if you end up going turbo i wanna see what you end up throwing on it =]

[916S14]

are you selling that car? Because there is one on craigslist that looks exactly like that one. Just curious

[norcal_black240]

If it was me I would go ka-t. My friend turbo'd his sohc KA with 260,000 miles on his orginal engine and that thing took a lot of abuse and it still runs great.But if that is your only car and if money is hard to come by for you I would say keep the engine stock until you can afford a ka-t. Dont bother going n/a KA because it is not cost effective at all.

[dirtdiggler666]

its a damn 240 who cares how clean it is, if you wanna have fun i say ka-t that bitch

[Jtuned_andy]

Leave it alone, it's too nice...you'll fuck it up

[Gnnr]

If the turbo job is done clean, not some hack job, I don't see the problem.

[SHIFT_Slide]

Since you bought it at a Nissan dealership I'm going to assume you payed ALOT for it. What are your plans for the car? Is it your daily driver? Your car is extremely clean, keep it that way. Don't do some janky cheap turbo kit, don't cut corners.

In the end its really up to you.

[prang11]

turbo it, and dont wreck it.

[LongGrain]

everyone loves having an unmolested chassis so that they have a solid platform to BUILD from, not so they can look at a nice stock car for the rest of their lives!

build it, boost it, then rock the shit out of it!

edit: 500th post!

[genericforumname]

if it was me, I'd daily that one and buy a beater for fun, or at least find a lower mileage engine. I wouldn't feel comfortable putting a turbo onto a 200k+ engine.

good find though, looked at the prices on s13's to find a nice daily and couldn't find anything worth paying for

[Subzeroqc]

I'd invest in suspension, brake, sway bars and bushings way before thinking of going turbo. Theres no point of having 300whp if you can't put it to the ground.

[statik]

what u mean exactly?

you said "i did a leakdown" but then you posted your compression numbers. a compression test is different than a leakdown test. A leakdown will tell you the % of pressure leak in each cylinder, which you can use to determine if you rings are still sealing well.

[HellaSlowAndOld]

are you selling that car? Because there is one on craigslist that looks exactly like that one. Just curious

naw man, i know the car that ur talking about, he wants like $4K for it right?

[HellaSlowAndOld]

Since you bought it at a Nissan dealership I'm going to assume you payed ALOT for it. What are your plans for the car? Is it your daily driver? Your car is extremely clean, keep it that way. Don't do some janky cheap turbo kit, don't cut corners.

In the end its really up to you.

sticker price was $6999 and they wanted like $7700 out the door....HAHAH YEAH RIGHT!!! :loco:

i got it for a lil over $3k out the door....$4500 less then wat dealer wanted for it and i have 3k or 3month warranty :naughty:

yeah its my daily now, i had a Stage2 '05 WRX before my s13 so i got the money to turbo it, just dont know if i should. i was planning on doing a greddy kit with a T28 turbo. Reason to go with greddy, my brother had a greddy turbo kit on his rx8, i liked the quality of the kit as well as all the peaces that came with it seemed like good stuff not half ass crap that barley holds.

my old wrx (i miss her everyday so friggen much :cry: )

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee116/WRX240SX/P1000259.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee116/WRX240SX/P1000238.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee116/WRX240SX/P1000244.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee116/WRX240SX/P1000232.jpg

[eli_eli]

that is ridiculously clean lol.....nice find man and congrats on the car...just enjoy it and try to keep it clean...and do what ever your car budget allows you to do and of course what you like...good luck

[Rockogtr]

nice s13 ...turbo it up

[sijia10358]

wow...thats a really clean s13....ill say...BLACKTOP!

[thatdrifterguy]

do whatever, just dont go cheap on it cuz that body is too nice for cheap stuff
edit: i ment, turbo the bitch!!!! yeayuhh!

[KA-T_240]

KA-T FTW!. With the amount of low quality motors coming into the US, keep the KA. Insperation for you.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/2165000-2165999/2165252_153_full.jpg

[JRas]

car is so clean it's almost wrong but if your going to keep it clean like the rest

or get a s13 beater

[Anto]

I'd shy away from the Greddy Kit, you can piece together a good one for less that what it costs / piece together an even better one for the same $.

It's reaaalllly up to you

[SnakeKack]

Why did you get rid of the WRX?

[HellaSlowAndOld]

Why did you get rid of the WRX?

pops got cancer, i had to pay bills......thats life, haha yeah....sux

[ManoNegra]

Suspension and brakes.. then think about power.

[ripnbst]

I say do some basic upgrades first like brakes and susp. some nice wheel tire then boost it after saving a little more money and doing some research and seeing whats out there. I am also against buying the greddy kit. You could be running a better setup with more power for less money or about the same. You should be running a T3 turbo on a KA imo, it will spool it plenty easy being 2.4 Liters.

[origin_s135]

man that's a clean car reminds me of my car when i first bought. i'd say stick with the KA; turbo the beezy. this is coming from a SR owner. but like RIPNBST said, just do all the basics first, suspension, brakes, etc.

[unicoladron]

hey, post some interior shots too.. hopefully the interior is as clean as the exterior.

but don't get a beater, it's always best to start with a platform in such good condition, less headaches down the road(no pun intended).

i feel your pain in selling a fast car then going back down to NA lol

[HellaSlowAndOld]

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee116/WRX240SX/P1000279.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee116/WRX240SX/P1000284.jpg

thats the only ones i got right now, ima go take some more pics right now...my cly #3 feul injector went out...im ganna get 4 new ones....might as well...ill post in a bit

[240cracker]

im not gunna even read the hole thing. yes TURBO

clean ass s13

[HellaSlowAndOld]

well heres a little update, i guess u can call that....

i haven't cleaned the car in almost a week...so its a little dirty, oh yeah the shift knob...umm...its the stock one with a little homeade JDM addition to it with some friends

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee116/WRX240SX/P1000347.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee116/WRX240SX/P1000338.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee116/WRX240SX/P1000340.jpg

i need new injecter(s?)!!!!!!
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee116/WRX240SX/P1000346.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee116/WRX240SX/P1000345.jpg
the bad cly#3 injecter...
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee116/WRX240SX/P1000344.jpg

So i went out with my girlfriend yesterday to the cheesecake factory, since my car is not in working state my bother lets me brow is rx8....some redneck in a nissan truck hits me when i was on a stoplight.....fawww....

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee116/WRX240SX/P1000352.jpg

[thedecapitator]

dude that fukn sux good thing it wasnt the 240 though but still it was ur bros car damn :(

[swpdwgn]

i wish my hatch was that clean... if i were you i would def. got ka-t because then you dont have to worry about having the swap problems and all but, on the other hand turbocharging the ka does have it's problems as well. but with a good fuel management system and some minor things it should work out fine. plus there's nothing like the sound of a ka-t growling at 15lb's of boost lol

[KA-T_240]

HOLY SHIT CLEAN!

IMO do some none power mods to start out with. Nice suspension and some z32 brakes for starters would really make it a fun car to drive.

[racepar1]

Suspension and brakes.. then think about power.

Exactly what I was thinking. Lots of power is stupid if you don't have the brakes to stop it at the end of the straight and if you don't have the suspension to carry at least some of that speed through the corners. I say:
1. Mod the suspension, brakes, and drivetrain
2. Learn how to actually DRIVE the car.
3. Go for horsepower

[colexcore]

Do a nice NA setup. Greaser down here in Southern Virginia is working on his NA dual cam. He used SOHC pistons, decked head and bock .030 and used a metal HG to bump the compression, Ported head, 46mm ITBs, Brian Crower V3 cams, Brian Crower spring/ret kit, JWT cam gears, custom exhaust, vacuum pump, staged injection, tuned on AEM EMS.

yielded this:

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/files/1041068_ytjjx/breakthrough%20200.jpg



he came to a few events i was filing and it sounds amazing. And the 200NAWHP def got him around the course sideways without a problem. The car is simply amazing.

[skylindrftr]

sticker price was $6999 and they wanted like $7700 out the door....HAHAH YEAH RIGHT!!! :loco:

i got it for a lil over $3k out the door....$4500 less then wat dealer wanted for it and i have 3k or 3month warranty :naughty:

yeah its my daily now, i had a Stage2 '05 WRX before my s13 so i got the money to turbo it, just dont know if i should. i was planning on doing a greddy kit with a T28 turbo. Reason to go with greddy, my brother had a greddy turbo kit on his rx8, i liked the quality of the kit as well as all the peaces that came with it seemed like good stuff not half ass crap that barley holds.

my old wrx (i miss her everyday so friggen much :cry: )

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee116/WRX240SX/P1000259.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee116/WRX240SX/P1000238.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee116/WRX240SX/P1000244.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee116/WRX240SX/P1000232.jpg

Hey are you Ivans brother lol? That sucks about his rx8... i guess we wont be driving it back down to cal poly anymore....

[colexcore]

and if you do decide to go turbo check out www.jgsturbo.com


they have a quality dual cam kit.

[trsilvias13]

You bought a clean s13 to dd? Just think, dd car will get more abuse and have a better chance of getting messed up - you can the best driver in the world, but it will take one just one bad driver out there to ruin your clean s13.

Why did you buy the car in the first place? If the reason above, then you bought too clean of a car. If you bought it as a collectors car, then all it will do is sit in your garage and you will have the pleasure of saying "I have a clean s13 that is 155hp, runs 15+ in the 1/4 mile and is cherish by 16yr boys aspiring to be drifters." (woopeedoo). And dont forget that one thread with a car that ran into someone garage and totaled garage ferrari.

Mod it, drive it, enjoy.

I have a very clean 97 240sx, and you can bet I will turbo it once I get my 7 out of the shop.

[HellaSlowAndOld]

Hey are you Ivans brother lol? That sucks about his rx8... i guess we wont be driving it back down to cal poly anymore....

yup that his car...hes pissed at me a little, but it wasn't my fault, hes actually trying to sell it and get a 95-99 gsx (can we say crankwalk 97-99?)

[HellaSlowAndOld]

You bought a clean s13 to dd? Just think, dd car will get more abuse and have a better chance of getting messed up - you can the best driver in the world, but it will take one just one bad driver out there to ruin your clean s13.

Why did you buy the car in the first place? If the reason above, then you bought too clean of a car. If you bought it as a collectors car, then all it will do is sit in your garage and you will have the pleasure of saying "I have a clean s13 that is 155hp, runs 15+ in the 1/4 mile and is cherish by 16yr boys aspiring to be drifters." (woopeedoo). And dont forget that one thread with a car that ran into someone garage and totaled garage ferrari.

Mod it, drive it, enjoy.

I have a very clean 97 240sx, and you can bet I will turbo it once I get my 7 out of the shop.

AMEN to that!
its my dd car for sure...i dont wanna take the bus, while it sits in the garage, and getting a beater...um well i dont wanna..more insurance and if i gotta drive somewhere far i got worrie if ill make it, not worth it to me

[statik]

^^ if it's your DD I wouldn't turbo it, or swap motors

[1985zcar]

KA-T is the suck for reliability...Maybe not so much with something like the GReddy kit, but I pieced together a kit when I turbo'd my KA...always had shit breaking...

With 200k I wouldn't recommend turboing it unless you plan on doing a rebuild and stuff, otherwise you're probably gonna break stuff.

[posdrift240]

Sell it buy a camaro!!! V8 and Turbo that!!! You will not be disappointed :}

[HellaSlowAndOld]

Well heres another little update...

i went ahead and took the advise of people that posted about not rushing in doing engine mods, but focus on "control" first, i bought these fromcc4usmc and picked them up this morning: Tein HA's in the rear, HE's in the front.

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee116/WRX240SX/P1000355.jpg
gatta get my car running befor i can install them :-/

and heres a pic of my vlsd, needs to be installed...
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee116/WRX240SX/P1000357.jpg

My poor baby not running at the moment...
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee116/WRX240SX/P1000358.jpg

im not too sure about going the n/a bulid, i always liked boost better then n/a (im a sucker for BOV 's:fawk2:) and personally i dont want to build my motor yet, if at all, its my only ride to college and work..

ill most likey post pics when installing all this crap :D

maybe i should change my threads name.....hmmm...

[posdrift240]

As soon as you go boosted you will Never have a reliable car again. ONLY an money pit!!!! So be prepared!!!

[HellaSlowAndOld]

^^ if it's your DD I wouldn't turbo it, or swap motors

yeah i thought about that as well, dont wanna miss class or work because i broke an oil line or worse..

so im still considering doing the header 4-2-1 and a 2.5inch exhaust, and intake, i know i wont get a whole lot of horsepower, but it'll take a some stress off the motor witch will improve my reliability and most likely increase my mpg a little. watcha think?

[HellaSlowAndOld]

and if you do decide to go turbo check out www.jgsturbo.com (http://www.jgsturbo.com)


they have a quality dual cam kit.

thanx, ill look into it a little more

[CrimsonRockett]

The moment you switch out one to two things, you'll be tempted to start tearing it apart completely.

I know that all too well.

I bought my '92 Fastback with only 41k miles(7 months ago). Clean as hell, but needed some loving. Interior was immaculate, exterior was pretty clean, and engine ran friggin' awesome. Bone stock.

Then...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/XxXxXAtreyuXxXxX/000_0696.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/XxXxXAtreyuXxXxX/000_0699.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/XxXxXAtreyuXxXxX/100_8266.jpg

Now...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/XxXxXAtreyuXxXxX/102_9406.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/XxXxXAtreyuXxXxX/102_9370.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/XxXxXAtreyuXxXxX/102_9329.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/XxXxXAtreyuXxXxX/102_9233.jpg

Now, it's at 52k miles, 5-speed swapped, swapped suspension, interior still immaculate, exterior still pretty clean but would much rather respray the entire thing red again, and engine still runs pretty smooth besides the fact that I have a shitty tranny that clunks a lot(already have a new tranny to replace, just need a weekend to do it).

It all depends on how much time you're willing to spend to keep it as clean as possible.

Also, spend the money on quality parts the first time around. Don't cheap out on shit because "it's just as good", etc etc.

You'll be much happier knowing your car will still be as reliable as when it was stock.

Just my 2¢.

[Viet-Tam]

What kind of wheel and suspension setup do you have?

[Subzeroqc]

Very sound decision, you won't regret it when its all done with! Theres nothing like handling to enjoy a car to it's fullest!