How practical is it to Run Negative Camber?

[Farkel]

I'm in the process of putting new suspension on and lowering my car...

I had a camber kit for the front, but I decided to just sell it and run my car with some negative camber. I have adjustable camber arms for the rear, but likewise I also plan on a little negative camber.

Aside from a little better cornering, I'm also hoping my wheels will tuck enough so I won't have to roll my fenders... but I'm worried about how dramatic it'll affect tire wear. How many of you guys do it and are fine with negative camber? I'll probably only run a slight negative, or whatever the drop gives

I heard someone who runs noticeable negative camber actually has pretty even tire wear :aw:

[Dousan_PG]

depends how much camber.

and it depends on WHAT you are doing
daily driver?
track car?


search for alignment threads
theres at least 3 of them that are decent

[yokotas13]

i have aroun d-10* of camber
aside from my tires wanting to spin sometimes from only having like a 1/4 of the tire touching the ground at all, no crazy problems, i change my tires every 4 months or so...really just flop the sides, so the good side is inwards

[!Zar!]

Camber kills tires, but not as bad/fast as toe does.

Camber is only as practical as the application you're using it for.

I mean My tires were wearing evenly in the front with a lot of camber due to the fact that during a drift and hard cornering the contact patch changed as camber changed.

Using camber is a fine idea for wheel fitment. But not a good idea because you are lazy/don't have the means to roll/pull fenders. Function before form imo.


Now a days I don't even care about tire wear. I'd rather have great tire wear or great performance. No point trying to have both. If that were the case I would just stop driving my car all together.

[azndoc]

negative camber is overrated.

Positive camber is where its at.

Also understeer is better than oversteer.

[FIlthy 24O]

fit those nasty rims

[BustedS13]

in the real world, no, negative camber is not practical. at all.

[MELLO*SOS]

negative camber is overrated.

Positive camber is where its at.

Also understeer is better than oversteer.

beat me to it. :cj:

[Bushido]

don't pussyfoot about rolling your fenders. it's not hard and only takes 15mins.

[Quigs]

I agree what most people have already said. Rolling/pulling fenders is not difficult at all, especially up front. Using negative camber as a means to fit wheels is somewhat pointless IMO.

However, negative camber will indeed help out with some cornering/drifting.

And to reiterate once again, good tire wear and performance definitely don't go hand in hand...

I am running maxed out negative camber up front (Ksport basics) and my tire wear is fine. It's not great by any means, but my front tires are at least wearing evenly. I daily drive and track the car, and haven't had any issues with running negative camber on the street or at the track.

It shouldn't hurt your car's performance if set up right, but please don't do it just because you are too lazy to roll fenders...

[nissan240sxkid]

eastwood makes a nice fender rolling tool....I have it works great, I would let people barrow it if I knew I would get it back...LOL

[ripnbst]

eastwood makes a nice fender rolling tool....I have it works great, I would let people barrow it if I knew I would get it back...LOL

Just go over there to drop it off so you know where they live. Or have them paypal you like 10$ to borrow it and bam, you get their address too.

To be on topic like others have said really the only way to get even tire wear when running neg camber is to drive your car really hard to the point where the camber is doing what it should, increasing your contact patch during cornering. Running more than that to get the tires to break loose easier/cleaner is gonna whoop your tires quick, fast, and in a hurry. Bottom line if you're worried about tire wear you should not run any more camber than absolutely needed. Rolling fenders is not that hard. Most people on here who run lots of neg camber drift their cars so the tires are dead much more quickly than a camber setting would ever yield. So to those people it makes sense to run that amount of camber.

[trsilvias13]

You can always use the newspaper method I keep reading about. I run -2* in front and -3* in rear, however 0 toes. Toe kill tires, not camber(sort of).

[Lurpin]

i have negative camber and rolled fenders on my car to get my rims under there and it does just fine on the back two tires, but the front two are a bitch. =) need to fix that.

[BustedS13]

quick question. almost every single s13 i've seen with rolled fenders has a fat indentation above the rear wheel wells. is there any way to avoid that?

[SimpleSexy180]

simple..

do it right.

[ixfxi]

negative camber shouldnt be used as a patch-fix to make wheels fit, unless you're a fag who cares only about looking cool

your camber should be set in accordance to your driving terrain. even me, who drives a lot of mountain roads.. dont run more than about 2 degrees rear, 1.5 front...

you CAN run more, but you be the judge as to how your tires wear in regards to your driving style

[Johny5]

your wheels are gonna blow up if you run negative camber.

[sikkk240]

negative camber is overrated.

Positive camber is where its at.

Also understeer is better than oversteer.

lol =]

is that what all the cool kids on the block are doing?

[!Zar!]

You can always use the newspaper method I keep reading about. I run -2* in front and -3* in rear, however 0 toes. Toe kill tires, not camber(sort of).

That is meant to be used when a minimal pull is needed.

Not to roll fenders.

[Bushido]

just bang the inner lips with a hammer, done.

run less than 3 degrees if you can manage with your wheel size.

toe kills tires way faster than camber does.

[sijia10358]

negative camber is overrated.

Positive camber is where its at.

Also understeer is better than oversteer.

thats very true! thats why ACCORD, CAMRY, ALTIMA, CIVIC, COROLLA, SENTRA are all FWD!!!!

[nissan240sxkid]

quick question. almost every single s13 i've seen with rolled fenders has a fat indentation above the rear wheel wells. is there any way to avoid that?

you may want to use heat if you dont live in hot climate and roll slow and evenly with small increments made made to the angle of the roller untill you get what you want. Watch what your doing is the best way not to get a football dent in your quarter...