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Fractur3

11-29-2007, 08:05 AM

just picked up a 95 s14 shell and i want to know what the rear end is swapable with. I just watched drift society and in there it looks like there are 2 silvia's with like an r33/r32 rear end on them. I like the look of an r33 or 32 over the stock 240 look so im wondering how hard of a swap it is, because i know anythings possible through fabrication.

240sx_LE

11-29-2007, 08:09 AM

i think youre going too far with the whole being different from everyone else deal.. but what ever floats your boat..

Fractur3

11-29-2007, 08:11 AM

haha i take it that the swap is gonna be a bitch? Im not worried about making everything fit im just worried about the wiring

punxva

11-29-2007, 08:12 AM

how is that being different, ok so check it, since your new, try searcing, it's been done before, and i'm sure you can find plenty of information if you just searched. or else you'll just be ignored or flamed here...

and btw what wiring, it's a diff and subframe, there's no wires at all ;)

murda-c

11-29-2007, 08:16 AM

i think he means bumper/taillights.

wiring is easy, the only things there are tail and brake lights, and tag lights.

if you can do all the fab yourself, go for it.

Fractur3

11-29-2007, 08:18 AM

dude trust me i did search it was the first thing i did but all it came up with were classified ads.. Ive belong to a couple subaru forums and when i cant find what im looking for searching, i make a thread.. maybe im not searching for the right thing??

Fractur3

11-29-2007, 08:20 AM

i think he means bumper/taillights.

wiring is easy, the only things there are tail and brake lights, and tag lights.

if you can do all the fab yourself, go for it.
ya rear end not the front.. i know the front is swappable, id be an idiot if i made a thread asking a question about that but apparently im idiot for making this thread...

ManoNegra

11-29-2007, 12:22 PM

pbcstylez

11-29-2007, 12:28 PM

you need to first ask yourself how deep are your pockets? there will be a good deal of cutting and welding involved and paying lots of fab$

Fractur3

11-29-2007, 12:43 PM

No, you're an idiot for being a noobie and thinking this is a good idea... jp :wiggle:
Arghh, don't do it - lot of work and $$$ not to mention 99% or conversions don't look right.

Drive the car for a while, take care of the suspension and brakes and then ret-think this idea.

hey, all i have to say to you, is :fawk2:

lol sry i had to, this forums has the sweetest smilies hah

but this is my project car so why wouldnt it be a good idea? i just wanna go crazy with it and do something thats rarely seen.. hell my friend came up with the idea to put a moto bike exhaust on it. But the car is just a rolling shell so theres no driving anytime soon..

i dd an 04 sti making about 400whp and i want a project car because the sti is expensive

ManoNegra

11-29-2007, 12:54 PM

hey, all i have to say to you, is :fawk2:

lol sry i had to, this forums has the sweetest smilies hah

but this is my project car so why wouldnt it be a good idea? i just wanna go crazy with it and do something thats rarely seen.. hell my friend came up with the idea to put a moto bike exhaust on it. But the car is just a rolling shell so theres no driving anytime soon..

i dd an 04 sti making about 400whp and i want a project car because the sti is expensive

Fair enough, wish you look with it. Make sure to keep us updated.

Pank

11-29-2007, 01:20 PM

just wanna go crazy with it and do something thats rarely seen.. hell my friend came up with the idea to put a moto bike exhaust on it.

Both of those have been done MANY times. If you want an R33 rear end, save up and get an R33, everyone hates those anyway

ms!3

11-29-2007, 01:56 PM

haha, i thought we were talking about diffs, those kinda rear ends. please dont put an r33 r/e on a 240.

eastcoastS14

11-29-2007, 02:08 PM

^^ lol same here, honestly like other ppl said you gotta ask yourself how much $$ you have....if you were to do it it should be done correctly with oem parts and skilled body work....a hack job tail light conversion will look like total ass, a skilled job will only somewhat look like ass. If you have the cash at 16 to do this then more power to you but know that it will be expensive....IMHO if you have the cash put it into some other aspect of the car....it is ur money tho so do what you like

Landers

11-29-2007, 02:18 PM

I suggest you just check out some of the cars on this page and spend your money on other things maybe a kouki front??? i know its been done and all but it will make you feel like a master fabber yo!....r33 rear end on a 240 is a bit much...dont ruin a good s14. Waste of money in my opinion :ugh: :ugh: :down:

DALAZ_68

11-29-2007, 02:52 PM

fliprayzin240sx

11-29-2007, 03:11 PM

Lemme get this straight, you wanna put the R33 read end on it as in cosmetic?!?! Can you imagine how much fabrication that is? S14s have a flat rear end. Skylines have a wide, tall and boxy rear end. How good are you and your friend in fabrication? Im not talking about welding fucking exhausts. Sheetmetal? Bondo? Engineering degree?

In Subaru terms, imagine turning a wrx sedan rear end into a wagon...thats about how complicated it would be. If you wanted to put a skyline rear end on a car, you should have bought a 95 prelude, shape of the rear end is pretty close and it wouldnt be as complicated as on a S-chassis.

Also, you've been misinformed, Skyline front end wont bolt up to an S-chassis without making it look like a complete utter shit.

*Edited for being a dick*

DALAZ_68

11-29-2007, 03:24 PM

PS: Modding STis aint expensive, just ask mommy and daddy for more money...

no offense, but thats a pretty arrogant comment of you...he might actually work for a living and be making good bank...

unless its true that its mommy and daddy's money...then i look like an ass and i deserve it...if not then not...

i just dont like jumping to assumptions...anymore anyway lol

fliprayzin240sx

11-29-2007, 03:33 PM

no offense, but thats a pretty arrogant comment of you...he might actually work for a living and be making good bank...

unless its true that its mommy and daddy's money...then i look like an ass and i deserve it...if not then not...

i just dont like jumping to assumptions...anymore anyway lol

There I fixed it, but how often do you see 16 yr olds with decent jobs, able to afford $400-500 car payments with expensive ass insurance on top? :doh:

DALAZ_68

11-29-2007, 03:54 PM

There I fixed it, but how often do you see 16 yr olds with decent jobs, able to afford $400-500 car payments with expensive ass insurance on top? :doh:

to be honest bro...me my sister my bro and 3 cuzins...though i opted for an s13 and bought my mom a Rav4 when i was 17...only 4 payments left...

but respect to you for the maturity level bro...its appreciated

MomentumGT

11-29-2007, 04:26 PM

u wanna do something rare as fuck to see...

240z front on a s13 H/B

talk about unique...

ive only seen one in the devil z blue...fucken sick

kinda reminds me of the new mustangs that take it back to the fastback days but a modern style...

search that ... just my .02

Here in Cali I saw a early 80's trailer park z front end on a s13 coupe. That was terrible!!! The 240z lines may look like it would flow better tho'. I have a rusted 73' in my back yard so the gears are turning in my head.

-Jon

Addicted2Kouki

11-29-2007, 04:31 PM

its gonna look like crap.

sounds like something straight outta hot import nights.

DALAZ_68

11-29-2007, 04:44 PM

its gonna look like crap.

sounds like something straight outta hot import nights.

different taste i guess...

Fractur3

11-30-2007, 08:18 AM

damn i didnt think that it would be completely different.. i never thought it would be THAT hard to do, but i guess ill just keep it the way it is lol

and i work 25hrs a week and go to school to afford the sti and i pay for all my shit.. but i must say i couldnt get the sti without my parents because the car is in my moms name so insurance is WAY cheaper.. but i still have to pay for that too.. payments arent even 400 a month on it, i saved up a ton of money to put down and i have car payments through college but its worth every penny

Koopa Troopa

11-30-2007, 08:35 AM

25hrs a week? I was working 40+ at a car wash when I was your age and I was going to school. :rofl:

In order to swap the rear end you'll need a cutting torch and a welder...

Fractur3

11-30-2007, 09:57 AM

well if i could work more i would lol, but i cant physically keep good grades and work a shitload so it works

alex_s817

11-30-2007, 10:19 AM

i love chicken

eastcoastS14

11-30-2007, 10:23 AM

^^ nice first post

alex_s817

11-30-2007, 10:28 AM

yea i know, i didnt even know it was my first post. i have accounts on too many forums lol

Flipzide

11-30-2007, 10:29 AM

i feel like an idiot. when i first read the topic title, i thought he wanted to swap the whole rear suspension, differential, etc... but it turned out to be just cosmetic bs. awwwwww...

on topic, don't do it.

alex_s817

11-30-2007, 10:33 AM

yea i thought the same thing. i am the friend he said will help, but i even thought he meant the rear diff, suspension, etc

3-240's-N-aMule

11-30-2007, 12:17 PM

Anywho dawg, dont do it unless you plan on takin the time to make it look good and be a str8 show stopper. As in more than just molding tail lights into your trunk.
Answere to your question is hell yeah you can put a r33/r34 ass on your car. Been done a few times, but of the 8-10 ive seen, only one looked good.

WTF?? i though i was on nico when i was writing this....

Fractur3

11-30-2007, 12:20 PM

lol now it would be pretty dumb of me to do a full REAR end conversion with axles and diff and shit, but thats just dumb, i was just talking about the rear body and lights haha

Pank

11-30-2007, 12:40 PM

"lol now it would be pretty dumb of me to do a full REAR end conversion with axles and diff and shit,"

why would that be dumb? Its loads cooler than the rice shit you're planning on doing now

Fractur3

11-30-2007, 12:42 PM

cause why not just buy an r33 in that case.. call that shit rice cause its lo mein bitch

ellisonrox

11-30-2007, 12:59 PM

lo mein is noodles

alex_s817

11-30-2007, 04:01 PM

lo mein is noodles
lol well no shit they eat more noodles then rice

godzillarb

11-30-2007, 06:28 PM

lol now it would be pretty dumb of me to do a full REAR end conversion with axles and diff and shit, but thats just dumb, i was just talking about the rear body and lights haha

I did a full rear end "conversion" over a weekend (which also included many beer breaks). R33 axles, R33 hubs, 300zx-tt 30mm brakes, R33 lsd, aluminum bushings, and tilt spaces to top it off. Only thing that was left is the s14 subframe.

But I guess that's stupid. I mean, who would want larger brakes, stronger axles, a 2way LSD, and better hubs? I must be insane.

Fractur3

11-30-2007, 09:59 PM

I did a full rear end "conversion" over a weekend (which also included many beer breaks). R33 axles, R33 hubs, 300zx-tt 30mm brakes, R33 lsd, aluminum bushings, and tilt spaces to top it off. Only thing that was left is the s14 subframe.

But I guess that's stupid. I mean, who would want larger brakes, stronger axles, a 2way LSD, and better hubs? I must be insane.
i wouldnt....

motorsnail

11-30-2007, 10:18 PM

i wouldnt....

Yeah dude you can swap them its easy they where all messing with you. Should only take like 8 hours to do it your self, it looks nice I think. But remember you need lots of orange bondo and cotton kandy tefflon tape for the lights.

Koopa Troopa

11-30-2007, 10:41 PM

godzillarb

11-30-2007, 10:51 PM

Stock rear brakes are fine, R33 uses a bigger diff so obviously a higher initial torque.. I like high initial torque but it's not for everyone.

Stock axels are fine too...

Oh good point, sometimes I forget that not everyone is launching at 6000rpm with drag radials.

Creizai

12-01-2007, 11:23 AM

This is why cincinnati fucking sucks. Yea dude you better get a adapter for your wiring harness to get your new R32 Rear End on.

Posting from cinci ohio

Fractur3

12-01-2007, 08:26 PM

why does cincy suck because of that haha? of course i would want a stronger rear end who wouldnt? i just simply asked if a rear body swap was very hard, and got bitched at... where in cincy are you?

Kn1ves

12-01-2007, 08:30 PM

admit it.. you saw it on Nico didn't you?

EDIT: Here the picture from their FAQ
Cuz you know, at NICO its one of their most frequently answered questions.

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/4118/r3321vq.jpg (http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/183490)

I think you should just go over there.. and stay for like... at least 2 years