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beetlejuice
11-26-2007, 01:27 PM
I've been pondering the idea of buying a 350z. I've done a bit of research on the car, and the issues I came across are trans & axles issues with the 03s, and oil burning issues with the 05-06 300hp rev-up models (due to piston rings?).

Is there anything else I should be on the lookout for?

Any insight, experiences, theories, thoughts, etc is/are greatly appreciated.


thanks

azndoc
11-26-2007, 01:32 PM
I like mine.

status:one
11-26-2007, 01:36 PM
Considering getting a Z also.

jskateborders
11-26-2007, 01:44 PM
My freind has one, I drive it all the time
Notes
Heavy, you can feel it
Still handles decently
Not much room for anything though
Pretty fast stock, about the same as a stock sr
Decent gas milage
Driving from pheonix sucked though
The steering is so sensitive, long trips make you really, really tired, because you are literally Driving the whole time. Not really cruising
Very, very tail happy with tc off
chicks dig it

Ca_laurier
11-26-2007, 01:57 PM
meh, i steal my friends to from time to time

its a cool car, but for sure something i wouldn't buy myself. he even regrets it, the rx-8 was alot better imo

PRADOgy
11-26-2007, 02:00 PM
meh, i steal my friends to from time to time

its a cool car, but for sure something i wouldn't buy myself. he even regrets it, the rx-8 was alot better imo

+1 for the rx8..
even though its not faster it was more fun.. exept filling her up every 18 miles

Alan_no.1
11-26-2007, 02:02 PM
its alot fast than a stock sr.......
since we dyno the 350z and s13 before
stock s13 sr is about 180hp to the wheel
350z is about 240hp to the wheel...
there is alot 350z dyno movies on the youtube,
so please dont use ur "BUTT DYNO"...
I only trust the number

http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/july04/240sr/images/image005.gif
here is a stock s13 sr use 92 octane!!!

anxiouz
11-26-2007, 02:04 PM
In the earlier model years the transmission was definitely the weak link. They've revised it enough now that it's no longer an issue though. It's covered under the factory warranty so they'll replace it if you've got a bad one (and your warranty hasn't expired...it has for 03's and 04's).

Specifically the 06's have had oil consumption issues. Definitely not all cars but for 06 this is the only real issue. 05's aren't seeing the same occurances of this issue even though they share the revised engine. Something specific to 06 changed this.

Each year the Z has gotten a bit heavier. Not much but there seems to be a good 200lb increase from 03 to 06 although on the scale we're not seeing that weight. Some 06's have weighed in at 3300lbs and roughly the same as previous years. It's inconsistent car to car but Nissan claims the 06 car is 200lbs heavier. The 07 gained a bit on top of that as well (the revised HR engine). The 03's typically weigh in under 3300 because they lack some road noise insullation and other weighty perks.

I have an 03 and haven't had any real issues. Minor nuisances like grease on the windows (fixed under warranty) and some misc rattles are really all I've encountered.

I have Hotchkis springs and sways which make things more pronounced, but I agree that you have to pay attention on long drives. It can be twitchy. But my MPG on the highway when cruising at 80mph is around 31mpg. You really can't beat that for a sportscar!

Storage is non-existent because of the rear strutbar. You can do a piece of luggage, some stereo equipment, or a gym bag, but not much more. I have 2 replacement rear tires (275/40-18) that I simply cannot get both in the Z to get to the tire shop for mounting. Gotta call a friend with more space. :hs:

And anyone that's in So Cal and wants a Z owner to help check cars out, LMK.

unicoladron
11-26-2007, 02:05 PM
my friend has one, it's pretty torquey and comes with masive swaybars so handling is decent. the rear suspension is very similar to s-chassis and z32's. obviously alot of aftermarket support. it gets decent gas mileage for a 3.5 litre v6 tho. i like my s13 better.

Bobafreak
11-26-2007, 02:19 PM
Nice car good for the single person but if you have kids (makes the family fued buzzer noise) not gonna happen unless your payin for a babysitter and using it as a weekend car with the lady. sighhhh the single life....lol

McRussellPants
11-26-2007, 02:23 PM
Its heavy, but extremely balanced.


which makes it very easy to drift.

godzillarb
11-26-2007, 02:29 PM
+1 for the rx8..
even though its not faster it was more fun.. exept filling her up every 18 miles

Isn't there a massive recall where most of the engines are being replaced on the Rx8?

EJ253
11-26-2007, 02:38 PM
i only like 350Zs if they have perfect fitment.and theyre slamed
otherwise i think theyre not that great

motorsnail
11-26-2007, 02:46 PM
i only like 350Zs if they have perfect fitment.and theyre slamed
otherwise i think theyre not that great

:werd: I agree 100% G35 FTMFW!!

JH
11-26-2007, 02:56 PM
my friend has one, it's pretty torquey and comes with masive swaybars so handling is decent. the rear suspension is very similar to s-chassis and z32's. obviously alot of aftermarket support. it gets decent gas mileage for a 3.5 litre v6 tho. i like my s13 better.

Unfortunately, the rear suspension on the 350Z is totally unlike that on the 240s and 300ZXs... if anything, it actually appears to be a tad inferior, with quite a bit more bump steer, and potential binding of the links, esp when you run alignment specs beyond oem. It *is* nissan's "new generation" rear multi-link irs though, but one has to wonder if a lot of its design had more to do with cost-saving measures than all-out performance. Usually it's gotta be a compromise between the two, but the new rear multi-link design seems to have had a little more input from the corporate bean counters than the engineers. But with that said, it still is a pretty solid car overall, and as long as you like the styling, it's probably one of the best bang-for-the-bucks out there.

i only like 350Zs if they have perfect fitment.and theyre slamed otherwise i think theyre not that great

That pretty much ain't gonna happen in the US!
But how bout this one:
http://www.vertex-usa.com/D1GP/pras1.jpg
http://www.vertex-usa.com/D1GP/pras2.jpg

Bobafreak
11-26-2007, 02:58 PM
^^ Whooooooooooooooooooooooooo! ballllllllllllllllllllliiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnn! !!!!!!

PRADOgy
11-26-2007, 03:04 PM
Isn't there a massive recall where most of the engines are being replaced on the Rx8?

yeah for the granny drivers.. the carbon buildup is not burned off causing the engine to take a turd =/ rotaries need to be raped once in a while for the well being

jskateborders
11-26-2007, 03:05 PM
its alot fast than a stock sr.......
since we dyno the 350z and s13 before
stock s13 sr is about 180hp to the wheel
350z is about 240hp to the wheel...
there is alot 350z dyno movies on the youtube,
so please dont use ur "BUTT DYNO"...
I only trust the number

http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/july04/240sr/images/image005.gif
here is a stock s13 sr use 92 octane!!!
Ok so um... Usually Im not an ass
But im in a bad mood
And posting up a dyno sheet doesnt mean shit
Considering that you have no Idea what your talking about.
First off a 350z weighs How much
And an s13 weights how much
and How fast your car is is not how much hp you have.
Its how your powerband is and your power to weight ratio, and how you put that power down.
FYI a stock 350 wieght 3500+
and a stock 240 weighs about 2700
Think people
and dynos are nice
but its real life that counts

Peter_North
11-26-2007, 03:41 PM
They are great cars, with exhaust they sound like sex and they look damn good with deep dish rims and dropped a little. But they are heavy and every college girl these days has one...

Oh and the guy who said a stock SR is much slower, you must be getting some shitty beat to hell SR's with low compression.

motorsnail
11-26-2007, 03:51 PM
Ok so um... Usually Im not an ass
But im in a bad mood
And posting up a dyno sheet doesnt mean shit
Considering that you have no Idea what your talking about.
First off a 350z weighs How much
And an s13 weights how much
and How fast your car is is not how much hp you have.
Its how your powerband is and your power to weight ratio, and how you put that power down.
FYI a stock 350 wieght 3500+
and a stock 240 weighs about 2700
Think people
and dynos are nice
but its real life that counts

Weight doesnt matter when you gots twos turbos.......

Olivia350z
11-26-2007, 04:04 PM
i like my Z =)

i have an 06. no oil consumption problem. no real problems whatsoever. a few interior issues (door handle scratches easily). but that is about it.

IGSDann
11-26-2007, 04:12 PM
I drive them at work (nissan dealership), I don't see alot of them come in, and usually they are there for pretty minor things, and they're a blast to drive, I am driving a stock KA everyday though so my view is probably askew. Still lots of fun, and a nasty oem exhaust growl, love it!

MrFairlady
11-26-2007, 04:41 PM
I had an 03 when they 1st came out....loved the [email protected] 1st...now EVERYONE has one where I live of course.

power band always felt like... Just as you got going...BAM...Rev limit - Every Gear it seemed.
$$$$ bigtime to make any power.Too many Elec. Grandmas..though aftermarket was scarse back then...NOW its everywhere.No Plenum Spacers..Turbo Kits (except Greddy).
cat pipes was about the only thing that would DO ANYTHING.

Never had any Trans issues..granted I had the Base model...couldn't quite spend the extra for the LSD/HID's.

handling was Great...fun car to drive...damn window Grease was the only thing i had but put up w/ it.... in Every car I've had I've never had anything Fixed under warranty/nor needed anything except my 6th Gear Grind on my old STi.

NOW..them seem to imporvede aLOT.
The NEW Models Hood is awesome....kind of a Reverse of the Old 2003 hood.Way better wheels now.

S14_Cookie
11-26-2007, 04:42 PM
I am thinking of selling mine, if anyone is interested send me a pm. Not in a hurry to get rid of it, but since there are people asking, i'll just throw it out there. Its a 2005 MT w/ custom paint, all authentic JDM parts, clean title, well taken care of, and low mileage. Asking around 37K OBO. Has perfect fitment custom wheels which cost close to 9K and they are brand new, not even mounted or fitted. Here is a pic...for more please email me at [email protected] Serious inquiries only please and no low ballers!

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x43/jyshin84/350z.jpg
Picture taken two days ago, needs to be washed.

Too many specs to list, will add if needed. Here is an abbreviated list of parts:

1. HKS Hi Power Dual (Ti) Exhaust
2. HKS Super Suction Intake
3. ARC Cooling Panel
4. ARC Oil Cap
5. ARC Oil Catch Can
6. Cyberspeed Hyper Voltage System
7. Cyberspeed Hyper Gauss System (2)
8. Cyberspeed Hyper Force System
9. Cyberspeed Mini Voltage System
10. Cyberspeed Pedals
11. Bride Brix II w/ Gradiation (2)
12. Bride Seat Rails (2)
13. Takata 5 pt. Harness (2)
14. Veilside Version 3 Widebody kit
15. Veilside Version 3 C/F Wing
16. Veilside Widebody C/F Hood
17. Veilside Version 3 Aero Mirrors
18. Motordyne Iso thermal Plenum Spacer
19. UTR Test Pipes w/ Resonator
20. JDM Fairlady Z sidemarkers
21. JDM Fairlady Z Tail lights
22. 10" JL W6 Subwoofers (2)
23. JL 1000/1 amp
24. JL 450/4 amp
25. Custom Trunk w/ monitor in the back
26. Eclipse AVN 5435 w/ Navigation
27. Defi Control Unit Version II
28. Defi HUD
29. Nismo C/F B Pillars
30. Splash Short Hub
31. Nardi Classic Steering Wheel
32. NRG Gen II C/F Quick Release

and much more...

Awards and Features:

-Best of Nissan (1)
-Best 2 dr (2)
-1st Place Nissan (1)
-Was in Fast and Furious: Tokyo Drift
-Sun Auto Poster (Cyberspeed)
-Sun Auto Catalogue (Cyberspeed)
-Couple pics here and there in different mags

Fun car, very reliable and draws alot of attention. (Especially with the ladies) lol! Much better than the RX-8 IMHO. My best friend has an RX-8 and I test drove it a couple of times, its fun on turns but its lack of power makes it a bore. The 350z is basically the poor man's porsche and I loved every second of driving it!

edit: btw, its an enthusiast model with like 21,xxx miles on it. No track time, no abuse, Premium 91 fuel only (No ARCO), oil change every 2500 miles, and fuel injector cleaner every 3000 odd miles.

Kougeki
11-26-2007, 04:44 PM
Only Z i like, is the AMUSE Z.
That is one sexy looking mutha-shutyoumouth!

S14_Cookie
11-26-2007, 04:49 PM
Shot of the rear for those that are interested, from this past summers Huntington Beach meet in Ca.

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x43/jyshin84/IMG_4568.jpg

edit: BTW if you want to see more pictures you can check them out at www.myspace.com/panda350z.

fliprayzin240sx
11-26-2007, 05:05 PM
K i've been looking into this since I left the states. Im basically trying to make a decision before i go back to the states in roughly 3 yrs. Had a S14 in the states, and I got another S14 w/ a S15 SR here in Japan. Only reason I did it is cuz im planning of taking everything back minus the chassis. Catch now is that finding a decent chassis in the states has been shitty and expensive. So i've been contemplating on getting a Z or a G35.

Z is great because its a newer car. Wont have as much lil shiet to annoy the fuck out of you as a 10-19 yr old S-chassis. The only things thats making me reconsider the Z are: a)parts are fucking expensive b)insurance is gonna butt rape me w/ no vaseline c)do I really want a $450-550 car payment???

Alan_no.1
11-26-2007, 05:21 PM
Ok so um... Usually Im not an ass
But im in a bad mood
And posting up a dyno sheet doesnt mean shit
Considering that you have no Idea what your talking about.
First off a 350z weighs How much
And an s13 weights how much
and How fast your car is is not how much hp you have.
Its how your powerband is and your power to weight ratio, and how you put that power down.
FYI a stock 350 wieght 3500+
and a stock 240 weighs about 2700
Think people
and dynos are nice
but its real life that counts


I already race with my friend stock s13 sr.....
I have s13 and s14 before.
my shop have all kind of sr, s15 ,s14 ,s13....
stock s13 sr is slower than the 350z Vq for sure.
I can test it every day man.:w00t:
u can take ur car here race with my car. haha
but only if ur sr is stock.:bowdown:

beetlejuice
11-26-2007, 06:57 PM
Thanks for the info so far.

SlowCoupe
11-26-2007, 07:52 PM
get one. i did. vq35hr!

i might be selling my s13 soon though. still undecided.

drift freaq
11-26-2007, 08:11 PM
I am getting one soon. Let me dispell some of the misinformation here and lay down some facts as well. Some 2003 models had overheating issues not all. The trasmission issue was actually a minor thing and can be fixed. On the the oil consumption stories of 2005-2006 models. I know a tech at Infinity and Nissan and the only cars that came in for oil consumption issues were the 6 speeds. Guess why?Damn near veryone driving the 6 speeds were hot dogging the cars right off the lot. I.E. not properly braking their engines in. Constantly pushing them. None of the semi auto's were coming back for oil consumption issues which kinda explains the history of that.
As far as weight goes thats interesting that the cars have gained weight according to some people but I want to see facts on that. The 2007 engine and hood just rock in my opinion.

Omarius Maximus
11-26-2007, 08:24 PM
Ok so um... Usually Im not an ass
But im in a bad mood
And posting up a dyno sheet doesnt mean shit
Considering that you have no Idea what your talking about.
First off a 350z weighs How much
And an s13 weights how much
and How fast your car is is not how much hp you have.
Its how your powerband is and your power to weight ratio, and how you put that power down.
FYI a stock 350 wieght 3500+
and a stock 240 weighs about 2700
Think people
and dynos are nice
but its real life that counts

Using the weights you have listed, a 350z will still have a better power to weight ratio. And we're talking about the slower 350s with the 287hp. A stock SR is slightly slower than an RSX type S. Same power to weight, but the aggressive gear ratios make the Acura faster. Nobody in their right minds would compare a stock SR to a 350z. Just like nobody in their right minds would compare a stock RSX type S to a 350z.

genericforumname
11-26-2007, 08:48 PM
it shouldn't make any difference but I remember hearing a while back that there was a recall on the 03's because people were bitching about their tire life, only about 10k for a full set. Nissan did some adjustments to fix it but no one else mentioned it so I thought I should.

although I feel anyone with a car like that that complains about tire wear should be shot in the face

P.S. I've heard that with only the plenum spacer and the new manifold will pick you up like 25hp, not bad for an N/A, that plus exhaust and headers would make a mean street car

edit-if I had the choice, g35>350z, same engine better interior(opinion) and better body(opinion), plus used ones can be had for good prices

buzzfast
11-26-2007, 09:06 PM
some gained weight due to massive weights to help balance the car out and reduce some vibrations etc...

jskateborders
11-26-2007, 09:19 PM
I already race with my friend stock s13 sr.....
I have s13 and s14 before.
my shop have all kind of sr, s15 ,s14 ,s13....
stock s13 sr is slower than the 350z Vq for sure.
I can test it every day man.:w00t:
u can take ur car here race with my car. haha
but only if ur sr is stock.:bowdown:
If your 350z is stock... Ill run you. Stock sr, exhaust, 7lbs, sidemount
And Ill race for pinks.
But it has to be for pink slips, cause thats a hell of a drive

jskateborders
11-26-2007, 09:33 PM
ok Im a little confused..... Ive raced all kinds of 350z's with bolt ons and had no problems. Also no prob with the rsx s.... And I never boosted over 7:wtf:. So unless I have some magical sr....
Did I mention the bent valve I found when I pulled my head off, and The bad rings in 4 and the fact that I had a boost leak out the pcv.... Unless that makes for some crazy equation for more power

Irukandji
11-26-2007, 11:18 PM
I like my Z.

Problems:

03-04 : transmission problems
04.5 - 05 are all gravy
05 aniversary and 06 have oil consumption problems due to bad piston rings. You can avoid it by checking the manufacture date on the VIN sticker. I think anything after March 06 is fucked up. Mine was August 05.
07-08 A whole new motor, VQ35HR, 327bhp (catalog only says 306), and gets about 270whp bone stock. 07-08 are awesome, but they're pricey.

I really like my Z, it's a bit heavy, but I like the way it drifts. Stock suspension on 2006 and above is actually really stiff, I barely get any body roll while drifting, but I haven't really pushed the car since it's my DD

anxiouz
11-26-2007, 11:48 PM
In the real world, the 287hp vs 300hp Z's have pretty much been even on the street. The 300hp higher redline DOES make a difference but most of the 287hp's are slightly slimmer so it evens out. But yeah, the Z hits readline WAY quick w/ any model. Drive an ITR and then a Z and you won't believe it.

FWIW if I could sell my Z and get into a SR20DET 240 and also save some $k coin the bank, I'd do it. I seriously love my Z but it takes to mods like a fish takes to walking on land...it doesn't. A plenum spacer maybe nets 5 whp at best. Intake and exhaust maybe 5-6whp. Whippde fudging do. A few $K for 10whp? meh.

To me the main negative of the Z is that it's NA and doesn't mod well. Compare $1k on an EVO vs $1K on a Z and there is a good 30+whp difference. :-/

beetlejuice
11-27-2007, 12:03 AM
In the real world, the 287hp vs 300hp Z's have pretty much been even on the street. The 300hp higher redline DOES make a difference but most of the 287hp's are slightly slimmer so it evens out. But yeah, the Z hits readline WAY quick w/ any model. Drive an ITR and then a Z and you won't believe it.

FWIW if I could sell my Z and get into a SR20DET 240 and also save some coin the bank, I'd do it. I seriously love my Z but it takes to mods like a fish takes to walking on land...it doesn't. A plenum spacer maybe nets 5 whp at best. Intake and exhaust maybe 5-6whp. Whippde fudging do. A few for 10whp? meh.

To me the main negative of the Z is that it's NA and doesn't mod well. Compare $1k on an EVO vs $1K on a Z and there is a good 30+whp difference. :-/

In the 350Z, I'm not looking for the fastest car on the street. I'm looking for a reliable daily driver that is fun to drive, has a modern look, and will last me 5-6 years or more before I have to replace a starter, power steering pump, etc.

The guys at the local Autozone and Nissan dealer practically know me by name. Getting tired of replacing this and that on a 17 year old car.

Alan_no.1
11-27-2007, 12:36 AM
ok Im a little confused..... Ive raced all kinds of 350z's with bolt ons and had no problems. Also no prob with the rsx s.... And I never boosted over 7:wtf:. So unless I have some magical sr....
Did I mention the bent valve I found when I pulled my head off, and The bad rings in 4 and the fact that I had a boost leak out the pcv.... Unless that makes for some crazy equation for more power

u got boost gauge?? I have 1 customer runing his car with

leaking hose on the wastegate,with no boost gauge.... that

mean he run 14 psi all the time, and blow the motor...... and

sorry my 350z is not stock anymore. :sadwavey: but I dont

think ur car can beat RSX type S , cause the stock s14 SR is

slower than the integra TYPE R.....

here is the movies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjuIUX5VhIw

or and sorry I dont have the pink slips. hahaha I havt pay off my car yet lol.
but I will race u for a T25 turbo.

driftsilvias13
11-27-2007, 12:43 AM
ive owned 3 240sx's and a 350z track model and i can honestly say i loved the 350z more than the 240sx. but i have a 240sx since i know the car will get beat since i do a lot of track driving..

Z33dori
11-27-2007, 12:48 AM
z is a great car.......they have great motor very large Hp potential

you wont disappointed

pos13
11-27-2007, 12:57 AM
i have a 06 z and love it. there is no way a stock sr is the same. i have had both! U cant compare na 300hp (powerband hp/trq) and a turbo sr.
no way in hell is the sr faster or equal. it cant be compared.Z=power,alot more money plus better looks and higher p*ssy levels. S= personal fun, alot of money and Girls "honestly" think your car is junk.:D

916S14
11-27-2007, 01:08 AM
Have you ever test drove or drove one? I did and i didnt like the interior. And it was kinda slow in my opinion....though it would be faster. I liked the Navi system. Thats all.

jdizzy204
11-27-2007, 08:17 AM
i own a g35 and let me tell you, these cars are great fun to drive. but if you are looking for large power, dont do it unless you have DEEEEEEEEP pockets. intake and exhaust get you 15-20 hp at the most and to see any REAL gains, you have to go turbo or SC which are both expensive tasks. if you get a 350z, lower it, put wheels and lip on it, maybe an exhaust an call it a day.

sncs14
11-27-2007, 08:33 AM
My friend has an 04' enthusiast with a few things done to it. It's a blast for a nearly stock car. I'd think about getting one if something happened to my S14.

DustinZ33
11-27-2007, 08:41 AM
I don't really know much about running a stock sr20 in a s13 but I have seen a couple stock block ka-t s13 and s14. I can tell you that my 350z does not beat my friend's s13 with a ka-t. His ka-t is stock block. The 350z will beat it off the line but by the 1/4 mile, his s13 will have passed the Z.

Other than that, I love my Z. I also own a s13 but it is stock. I drive my s13 to work. I don't think that weight comparison is right either. The 350z is not 3500+. The only Z that ways that much is the grand touring. I have a base with nismo lsd and love it. The base is around 3100-3200 lbs.

posdrift240
11-27-2007, 09:34 AM
I just Briefly read through this thread, But there is a guy I use to go to school with (daddy's rich kid) That bought a 350z and thinks he ownes the world! He says its the fastest car in the town! The only problem is I have called him out 5 times and he has yet to show up! (Bastard) But me personaly If I had the cash I would be saving for a new Camaro!! Im a huge fan, I know your prob wonting to stay Nissan go with the G35!! I hate 350z's.

wylin
11-27-2007, 10:14 AM
Please, no more fighting about stock s13 vs Z. its off topic.

to summarize:
People think for a DD the Z is a pretty good car if purchased used, the 04, and 05-3/06 production ones should be a good purchase if the previous owner broke it in properly.

Why doesn't the original poster test drive it and see how he likes it. I suggest he try the 02-05 glass window and cable throttle S2000 as well they are in roughly the same price range as the Z33 and are definitely a solid rival in handling and for daily drive.

Personally i replaced my s14 w/ SR with an later 06 Ap2 s2000, it dyno's lower between 209-216(my car)@wheel but also weights 2800lb unlike the z's 3300lb. Its also easily modified w/ turbo or supercharge in 00-05 form.

i looked at the then 06 Z as well and i came to the conclusion (as a former g35 owner) the Z while nice had some quirks, I didn't like the the transmission too much and weird pedal take up, and i really didn't like how it would loose power with some mods (www.phase2motortrend.com bought one and dynoed things and got a minimal net gain), and the weight was ponderous for a 2 seater especially compared the s2000.

i'd also look at the 03-04 g35 coupe w/ 6mt/ brembo as they are a few grand more than a comparable used Z.
- will

drift freaq
11-27-2007, 10:48 AM
Please, no more fighting about stock s13 vs Z. its off topic.

to summarize:
People think for a DD the Z is a pretty good car if purchased used, the 04, and 05-3/06 production ones should be a good purchase if the previous owner broke it in properly.

Why doesn't the original poster test drive it and see how he likes it. I suggest he try the 02-05 glass window and cable throttle S2000 as well they are in roughly the same price range as the Z33 and are definitely a solid rival in handling and for daily drive.

Personally i replaced my s14 w/ SR with an later 06 Ap2 s2000, it dyno's lower between 209-216(my car)@wheel but also weights 2800lb unlike the z's 3300lb. Its also easily modified w/ turbo or supercharge in 00-05 form.

i looked at the then 06 Z as well and i came to the conclusion (as a former g35 owner) the Z while nice had some quirks, I didn't like the the transmission too much and weird pedal take up, and i really didn't like how it would loose power with some mods (www.phase2motortrend.com bought one and dynoed things and got a minimal net gain), and the weight was ponderous for a 2 seater especially compared the s2000.

i'd also look at the 03-04 g35 coupe w/ 6mt/ brembo as they are a few grand more than a comparable used Z.
- will

Will, Unless your comparing a S2000 to the 350z roadster your comparing Apples to Oranges. A lot of People do not want verts. Your break in statements are indeed correct and fall right in line with my comments earlier about the oil consumption issue being a driver treatment of car issue.
Your comments about the Z as well as several others are more of a personal statement than real bad comments about the cars actual performance.
As far as HP upgrades go. You can do a fair amount of things to up the HP if your good at tuning and really study certain issues on the stock form. I.E. factory exhaust headers are very restrictive and should be changed and a intake plenum plate does work. On top of that getting a JWT ECU retune does a world of good. Anyways all said and done two different cars that are hardly comparable unless your comparing roadster version to the S2000.
Also ponderous while you consider correct for the description of extra weight is a little off the mark in the description. Unless you really feel the extra weight creates lack of fluency and grace and is labored and dull. LOL I think saying its a little heavy would have been a more clear and to the point description. Instead of you trying to show you can use bigger words.

bizcotch
11-27-2007, 10:52 AM
Love mine...you would too! you wont regret it. handling and power are great but it's looks are its best feature.

wylin
11-27-2007, 11:09 AM
Will, Unless your comparing a S2000 to the 350z roadster your comparing Apples to Oranges. A lot of People do not want verts. Your break in statements are indeed correct and fall right in line with my comments earlier about the oil consumption issue being a driver treatment of car issue.
Your comments about the Z as well as several others are more of a personal statement than real bad comments about the cars actual performance.
As far as HP upgrades go. You can do a fair amount of things to up the HP if your good at tuning and really study certain issues on the stock form. I.E. factory exhaust headers are very restrictive and should be changed and a intake plenum plate does work. On top of that getting a JWT ECU retune does a world of good. Anyways all said and done two different cars that are hardly comparable unless your comparing roadster version to the S2000.
Also ponderous while you consider correct for the description of extra weight is a little off the mark in the description. Unless you really feel the extra weight creates lack of fluency and grace and is labored and dull. LOL I think saying its a little heavy would have been a more clear and to the point description. Instead of you trying to show you can use bigger words.

dave the flaming king, u still have a 240, i remember u the old guy who used to stalk mike mamos, tyrone, and alex chang. While personal attacks are fun, but they are quite trite and childish for a 40 yr old man with a 240.

To me (who has driven the Z plenty of times and owned a G35 since 03) the extra weight in the Z to me is indeed ponderous, it makes every corner for that type of car muted and u feel it transfer alot of weight in braking and acceleration it makes the car to me feel like kind of numb especially when doing a switch back or S curve. in my opinion the Z is more of a GT car than the S2000. As a former owner of a 240 (i might ad since 1996) an owner stepping up to a Z would definitely feel the weight and overall isolation of the car, hence the s2000 or even rx-8 should be looked as well as they represent a lighter and purer expression of the modern FR car.

The s2000 roadster is about as stiff as a open top car can get, in both stock and Club Racer (08+) form its about as solid as the Z33 closed top. Last time i checked it makes a decent rival to the Z and is probably as good a choice for Daily drive.

The roadster Z33 is pretty crappy, and exacerbates the problem with weight and adds cowl shake and a very complicated convertible top mechanism.

beetlejuice
11-27-2007, 01:31 PM
Thanks for the suggestions and insight.

Not a big fan of the s2000. I know they are very capable cars, but just not my thing.

My cousin has an '05 G35 6mt that I've both ridden in and driven. I really like that car, but I'd rather have the Z at this point.

wylin
11-27-2007, 05:32 PM
then definitely test drive it make sure u like, I like the 07 and up ones since most of my complaints about the low revs and notchy transmission were fixed.

smellslikecurry
11-27-2007, 06:57 PM
my 04.5 gave me no problems

Alan_no.1
11-28-2007, 02:45 AM
I think HP doest mean shit, all u need is put ur

love into ur car!!! hahahha LOVE=MONEY

so it will be FAST.

drift freaq
11-29-2007, 05:00 PM
dave the flaming king, u still have a 240, i remember u the old guy who used to stalk mike mamos, tyrone, and alex chang. While personal attacks are fun, but they are quite trite and childish for a 40 yr old man with a 240.

To me (who has driven the Z plenty of times and owned a G35 since 03) the extra weight in the Z to me is indeed ponderous, it makes every corner for that type of car muted and u feel it transfer alot of weight in braking and acceleration it makes the car to me feel like kind of numb especially when doing a switch back or S curve. in my opinion the Z is more of a GT car than the S2000. As a former owner of a 240 (i might ad since 1996) an owner stepping up to a Z would definitely feel the weight and overall isolation of the car, hence the s2000 or even rx-8 should be looked as well as they represent a lighter and purer expression of the modern FR car.

The s2000 roadster is about as stiff as a open top car can get, in both stock and Club Racer (08+) form its about as solid as the Z33 closed top. Last time i checked it makes a decent rival to the Z and is probably as good a choice for Daily drive.

The roadster Z33 is pretty crappy, and exacerbates the problem with weight and adds cowl shake and a very complicated convertible top mechanism.

Will, you still are ignorant and uniformed as ever, Mike Mamos happens to be a very good friend of mine and I stalk no one.

I pointed out my opinions of your post and brought up good reasons for your comparision sucking. I did not attack you, but here you are trying to attack me personally . I think your the one that needs to grow up. I could make other comments, but I won't.
See, my response to your post was a informed, non flaming response, but you came back, blowing flames out your asshole. Real grown up there Will.
I still say, both cars you use as examples are different classes and guess what? I am right, they are. For you to compare them, just because they are FR, is uneducated about cars.
Sure you have experience with them. I give you that, but to compare them, is well not exactly correct from a car class perspective.

Now, why don't you just go skulk off in your S2000 and shut up, because you know what? You talk out your ass. I am friends with a lot of people and have been dealing with and building Nissans before you could talk. I suggest you show some respect.

There was a reason I never liked you and you proved it once again. Oh this is not childish and trite and I love how you try to hide behind the English language to look superior. I guess you don't want to look ESL because you are. Grow up young man your still a punk.

status:one
11-29-2007, 05:15 PM
I'm not saying that all 350z owners don't know about perfect wheel fitment, but when a former s-chassis owner gets a 350z you get flush wheel fitment :)



http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/9052/vertexpn9.jpg
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/1494/vertex4om7.jpg
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/3483/vertex2tb8.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/858/vertex5ri5.jpg

jskateborders
11-29-2007, 05:15 PM
Yea I have a boost gauge and it always tops out at 7psi, if it gets there. Thats the boost inside the throttle body.
Also, Im contemplating letting my ca motorset go... I had an sr t25 with it I might be considering parting out.
u got boost gauge?? I have 1 customer runing his car with

leaking hose on the wastegate,with no boost gauge.... that

mean he run 14 psi all the time, and blow the motor...... and

sorry my 350z is not stock anymore. :sadwavey: but I dont

think ur car can beat RSX type S , cause the stock s14 SR is

slower than the integra TYPE R.....

here is the movies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjuIUX5VhIw

or and sorry I dont have the pink slips. hahaha I havt pay off my car yet lol.
but I will race u for a T25 turbo.

wylin
11-29-2007, 07:00 PM
Will, you still are ignorant and uniformed as ever, Mike Mamos happens to be a very good friend of mine and I stalk no one.

I pointed out my opinions of your post and brought up good reasons for your comparision sucking. I did not attack you, but here you are trying to attack me personally . I think your the one that needs to grow up. I could make other comments, but I won't.
See, my response to your post was a informed, non flaming response, but you came back, blowing flames out your asshole. Real grown up there Will.
I still say, both cars you use as examples are different classes and guess what? I am right, they are. For you to compare them, just because they are FR, is uneducated about cars.
Sure you have experience with them. I give you that, but to compare them, is well not exactly correct from a car class perspective.

Now, why don't you just go skulk off in your S2000 and shut up, because you know what? You talk out your ass. I am friends with a lot of people and have been dealing with and building Nissans before you could talk. I suggest you show some respect.

There was a reason I never liked you and you proved it once again. Oh this is not childish and trite and I love how you try to hide behind the English language to look superior. I guess you don't want to look ESL because you are. Grow up young man your still a punk.

The dislike, it goes the same as we 240sx originals from back in the 240sx mailing list, remember you with distaste and distrust as: a tagger along when we had our 240's, shaddy seller, and online "E-gangster"/ rabble rouser.

Last time, i checked you are still playing with our old toys and doing the same thing I was doing back in 2002 playing with the 240.

Also as someone who has owned a FM car (something i doubt u can afford and i remember comparing your old car to the price of a pair of my wheels back then), a s2000, and a 240. And has also test driven pretty much every car in the class while i was shopping for the s2000 last year and over the years.

A old school Nissan friends who? Last time i remember u had burned your bridges with most of the 240 club back a few years ago, especially us old-school Taiwanese guys.

Actually i need not hide behind anything, last time i checked i had an MBA...u know a graduate school degree. As for reputation here, i remember yours being vilified w/ nitekids and mine has always been pristine and you can ask plenty of people who i've been kind too & helped over the years in the car hobby.

if you want respect, show it with your check book by not having a ghetto swap ( Have Air conditioning for god sakes) and owning a vehicle(s) fit for someone of your age. As well as learning not to personally attack someone of higher financial and intellectual status.

Also ESL, why cuz I'm Taiwanese and you are i think some type of nativist grand ol' KKK hard core mofo, please i can barely understand your english over your squeaky high pitched voice.

drift freaq
11-29-2007, 08:16 PM
The dislike, it goes the same as we 240sx originals from back in the 240sx mailing list, remember you with distaste and distrust as: a tagger along when we had our 240's, shaddy seller, and online "E-gangster"/ rabble rouser.

Last time, i checked you are still playing with our old toys and doing the same thing I was doing back in 2002 playing with the 240.

Also as someone who has owned a FM car (something i doubt u can afford and i remember comparing your old car to the price of a pair of my wheels back then), a s2000, and a 240. And has also test driven pretty much every car in the class while i was shopping for the s2000 last year and over the years.

A old school Nissan friends who? Last time i remember u had burned your bridges with most of the 240 club back a few years ago, especially us old-school Taiwanese guys.

Actually i need not hide behind anything, last time i checked i had an MBA...u know a graduate school degree. As for reputation here, i remember yours being vilified w/ nitekids and mine has always been pristine and you can ask plenty of people who i've been kind too & helped over the years in the car hobby.

if you want respect, show it with your check book by not having a ghetto swap ( Have Air conditioning for god sakes) and owning a vehicle(s) fit for someone of your age. As well as learning not to personally attack someone of higher financial and intellectual status.

Also ESL, why cuz I'm Taiwanese and you are i think some type of nativist grand ol' KKK hard core mofo, please i can barely understand your english over your squeaky high pitched voice.

Ahem you have mistaken me with other people and you have no idea how much money I have. If you think I am poor well guess what? I am far from from it. Fact is my financial well being is really none of your business regardless.
I do not run around bragging or acting like I have money. I do not need to. Obviously you do. Once again a case of you feeling inadequate and feeling the need to have to show people.

I chose to play with S chassis's because I liked them. I have not burned any bridges in the community. In fact I am still friends with a lot of people from the old day. You talk about your Taiwanese buddies as the originators lol. Get over yourself.
If you think money equates prestige in life you have a lot to learn. Money does not make happiness or prestige.
I never ran a swap without air. You just seem to think your so great because you happen to show your s14 swap with air. Man your ego runs rampant.

I owned and was building 240z's before you were born. You know absolutely nothing about me and slander me with accusations and assumptions. I owned and ran a RB25 swapped S13 with air. Of course you not being around in the community were not there to see it.
You really must have an axe to grind for coming out swinging like this. Its rather funny because though I disliked you, I did not dis you. You started this Will and your ego is having the better of you in it.
I did nothing to you yet you hate. I am glad I was never friends with you because a friend like you full of such vitrol and venom would be worse than a enemy.
Have a nice life loser who thinks he has made it.

Oh ya and burned my bridges with the socal240sx. I don't think so. Let me see, I still talk to Sam Chang, I still talk to Jason, I still hang with Diego, Mike Mamos, Glenn Sato, I still see Alex Chang from time to time and he says hi. I even loaned Benson at set of Rotors for the 2002 convention. That does not sound like burning bridges. You seem to be a bit out of touch. I still talk to, ken Flores, Kevin who is a moderator here, George,Daniel, Trung when he is around, plus a few others. Hmmm they do not have a problem with me like you do. I think this is your issue. Which you know what is on you.

KKK hahahhahaha I am Italian American and go out with Japanese women. that is a laugh you clueless fool.

P.S. your attempt at neg rep looks like a cheap shot at best. I also have nothing to hide.

Oh Ya and why your lauding yourself as a original take this into account. I drove a 240sx in 1989. Oh ya and thanks for driving this thread completely off topic with your personel attack and vendatta.

wylin
11-29-2007, 08:40 PM
actually i'm just stating the facts that i have observed about you and from the times we laughed at you. Most of those ppl u mentioned laughed at you as well, and continue too.

no i have nothing really to prove to some so childish guy with manboobs.

actually i never liked you because u were a hanger on, nothing more nothing less. If that makes your squeaky voice tremble with anger thats wonderful, but trite.

Exactly i made it w/ education mr. squeaker, and your money excuse is laughable at best, thats what the poor say to their masters.,.

usdm180sx
11-29-2007, 08:57 PM
Damn

alskdjfhgmsglength

racer98
11-29-2007, 09:00 PM
I've been pondering the idea of buying a 350z. I've done a bit of research on the car, and the issues I came across are trans & axles issues with the 03s, and oil burning issues with the 05-06 300hp rev-up models (due to piston rings?).

Is there anything else I should be on the lookout for?

Any insight, experiences, theories, thoughts, etc is/are greatly appreciated.


thanks

you get what you pay for but if you do all of the reseach its all out there about the 350z

illxs14
11-29-2007, 09:00 PM
my buddy has a chance to pick up a 07 z for 25 out the door, as we were leaving the dealer the guy was throwing out better offers. I think 25 out the door is a good price for a 07 with 400miles.
what do you guys think?

racer98
11-29-2007, 09:06 PM
my buddy has a chance to pick up a 07 z for 25 out the door, as we were leaving the dealer the guy was throwing out better offers. I think 25 out the door is a good price for a 07 with 400miles.
what do you guys think?

nice, unlike one dealership I will leave namless was trying to tag me for the touring with that funky paint for $5k over sticker. when I asked them about it I was fed so much bs . I simply walked out.

found the same car for for invoice at the next dealer over.

apexis13sx
11-29-2007, 09:32 PM
I love mine it handles great nice ride at times i would never go back lol.

Irukandji
11-29-2007, 09:40 PM
FYI a stock 350 wieght 3500+
and a stock 240 weighs about 2700
Think people
and dynos are nice
but its real life that counts


350z's range from 3200-3400 lbs depending on trim

nice try though


i own a g35 and let me tell you, these cars are great fun to drive. but if you are looking for large power, dont do it unless you have DEEEEEEEEP pockets. intake and exhaust get you 15-20 hp at the most and to see any REAL gains, you have to go turbo or SC which are both expensive tasks. if you get a 350z, lower it, put wheels and lip on it, maybe an exhaust an call it a day.

I agree 100%

blitzkrgCT9A
11-29-2007, 10:39 PM
dayam, Shiatsu's Z is clean!

IngS14
11-30-2007, 03:59 PM
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/9052/vertexpn9.jpg


yo,that is so right!!check out my buddy saru's 06 z33 with work meister 3pc wheels/federal tires 19x9.5 +19 & 19x10.5 +23 he spent $3600.00,so,fcuking baller dude !!
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/Quikmr2/VeryQZ33e.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/Quikmr2/VeryQZ33b.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/Quikmr2/VeryQZ33c.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/Quikmr2/VeryQZ33d.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/Quikmr2/VeryQZ33a.jpg

beetlejuice
12-03-2007, 01:33 PM
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/9052/vertexpn9.jpg


Care to share the specs on the wheels?

kaotic
12-03-2007, 01:51 PM
yeah for the granny drivers.. the carbon buildup is not burned off causing the engine to take a turd =/ rotaries need to be raped once in a while for the well being

an ex-coworker of mine has an RX-8, and his engine kept on flooding.. +1 for mazduh
:goyou:

nevaland9
12-03-2007, 02:03 PM
its alot fast than a stock sr.......
since we dyno the 350z and s13 before
stock s13 sr is about 180hp to the wheel
350z is about 240hp to the wheel...
there is alot 350z dyno movies on the youtube,
so please dont use ur "BUTT DYNO"...
I only trust the number

http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/july04/240sr/images/image005.gif
here is a stock s13 sr use 92 octane!!!

who cares about numbers when your talking about how fast a car is?
numbers mean nothing when you take gears (6spd vs 5spd & final drive.) and weight (3320 vs 2700) into consideration.

"butt dynos" work fine when comparing speed.
Real dynos are good for measuring number which isnt what this discussion is about.

ixfxi
12-03-2007, 02:41 PM
Ok so um... Usually Im not an ass
But im in a bad mood
And posting up a dyno sheet doesnt mean shit
Considering that you have no Idea what your talking about.
First off a 350z weighs How much
And an s13 weights how much
and How fast your car is is not how much hp you have.
Its how your powerband is and your power to weight ratio, and how you put that power down.
FYI a stock 350 wieght 3500+
and a stock 240 weighs about 2700
Think people
and dynos are nice
but its real life that counts



350Z is much faster and much more of a car, period.

i dont want to hear this shit

my stripped car with SR got beatup at highway speeds by Z/G35.. its faster. Not a whole lot, but it is.

the neck-snapping turbo power is fun in an SR, but its inconsistent. the Z on the other hand, is fucking BORING with its flat and plain powerband... but speeds come fairly quick.

personally, i prefer the lightness and agility of my s13, obviously. but the Z or G35 is more of a high speed car.. period.

a 4cyl will always be a 4, and a 6 will always be a 6. no sense in comparing apples with oranges. a built 4 is good and can compete (or even beat) a stock 350Z.... but the motor deals with more stress and wont last as long.

....

as for the Z/G, i hear constant complaints from all my customers about oil consumption and tire feathering. that, plus the cost of mods. if you buy a Z, expect to pay through the nose for parts...

Irukandji
12-03-2007, 03:00 PM
350Z is much faster and much more of a car, period.

i dont want to hear this shit

my stripped car with SR got beatup at highway speeds by Z/G35.. its faster. Not a whole lot, but it is.

the neck-snapping turbo power is fun in an SR, but its inconsistent. the Z on the other hand, is fucking BORING with its flat and plain powerband... but speeds come fairly quick.

personally, i prefer the lightness and agility of my s13, obviously. but the Z or G35 is more of a high speed car.. period.

a 4cyl will always be a 4, and a 6 will always be a 6. no sense in comparing apples with oranges. a built 4 is good and can compete (or even beat) a stock 350Z.... but the motor deals with more stress and wont last as long.

....

as for the Z/G, i hear constant complaints from all my customers about oil consumption and tire feathering. that, plus the cost of mods. if you buy a Z, expect to pay through the nose for parts...


Finally someone who makes sense.
And yes, 350z parts are fucking expensive.
Oil consumption is only really common within 05 aniversarys and 06's. I would personally either get a 04.5 or 05 since they go for 15-19 on craigslist anyday.

To the guy who got the 07 for 25 out the door, that's an absolute steal. I was negociating with the dealership for a good 2-3 hours trying to get 26 out the door for a 07 Z with 4 miles on it. The lowest they would go was 27, so I left. Ugh

vq35HR is a lot of fun.

tanman8181
12-03-2007, 03:29 PM
Care to share the specs on the wheels?

This is actually my car!

my wheel specs are 19x9.5 +2 and 19x10.5 +7 VS-KF in burning black :)

DustinZ33
12-06-2007, 08:03 PM
I know this subject has been beat to death but I wanted to add something. I would personally stay away the 07 if you don't want to deal with bringing it in for warranty work. Many people are having problems with slave cylinder failure which is resulting in them losing their clutch and flywheel as well. The failure is occuring with the seal of the piston. Nissan redesigned the slave for the 07. It is also now inside the transmission which means when it goes out, it is a PITA to replace. There is now a revised slave which is being installed on the 07s with "the problem". Two of my friends here in New Orleans are having this problem right now. One lost his clutch last night at a test n tune. Be careful messing around with the 07.

PS - I have an 06 and I don't have the oil consumption problem.

Dustin(keeps his fingers crossed that he doesn't develop the oil consumption now)

fliprayzin240sx
12-06-2007, 09:06 PM
This is actually my car!

my wheel specs are 19x9.5 +2 and 19x10.5 +7 VS-KF in burning black :)

Damn now im intrigued with the car. Simple and clean, just the way I like em. Tire size? What year Z is that? I noticed the brakes and the LED light, always thought they didnt go together. Side skirt and lip stock? Damn...FUCK looking for an overpriced, beat down donor S14 when i come back to the states. Anybody gonna need a S15 Spec R engine mated to a S14 tranny with a Greddy T518Z stuffed with Greddy 87mm slugs tuned with a PFC D-jetro with lots of bolt ons?!?! Ill need that money for a down payment for a Z33!!! :bigok:

racer98
12-06-2007, 09:21 PM
Looking for a Z33 but want something good priced.

unaffiliated240sx
12-06-2007, 09:27 PM
ive actually got an 04 enthusiast 4 sale and with all that i have heard i wouldnt get a rev up. ive heard the new hr motors are awesome. u should look out for camber issues on the 03, 04's and some tranny issues. i just had my tranny replaced bc the synchro from 5th to 6th went out. i thought that was crazy bc i only have 34,000 miles on the car. but i still love mine and i hate that im getting rid of her

unaffiliated240sx
12-06-2007, 09:31 PM
Side skirt and lip stock? :bigok:


:aw: i believe that is the vertex lip kit:aw:

unaffiliated240sx
12-06-2007, 09:33 PM
As far as weight goes thats interesting that the cars have gained weight according to some people but I want to see facts on that.

i weighed mine and it weighed 3175

fliprayzin240sx
12-06-2007, 10:10 PM
i weighed mine and it weighed 3175

So its not that fat compared to an S14. Atleast my S14. My old car weighed in at a hair over 3000lbs.

driftsilvias13
12-07-2007, 01:02 AM
http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/3919/350z21pf5.jpg
my Z which i miss very much... s14 is fun but damn the Z was just a nice car overall

tanman8181
12-07-2007, 02:42 AM
Damn now im intrigued with the car. Simple and clean, just the way I like em. Tire size? What year Z is that? I noticed the brakes and the LED light, always thought they didnt go together. Side skirt and lip stock? Damn...FUCK looking for an overpriced, beat down donor S14 when i come back to the states. Anybody gonna need a S15 Spec R engine mated to a S14 tranny with a Greddy T518Z stuffed with Greddy 87mm slugs tuned with a PFC D-jetro with lots of bolt ons?!?! Ill need that money for a down payment for a Z33!!! :bigok:


Its an 03 track model. The tails are from 06+. As for tires I am running fk452 245 35 19 and 275 35 19. The lip kit is authentic vertex :)

racer98
12-07-2007, 10:26 AM
ive actually got an 04 enthusiast 4 sale and with all that i have heard i wouldnt get a rev up. ive heard the new hr motors are awesome. u should look out for camber issues on the 03, 04's and some tranny issues. i just had my tranny replaced bc the synchro from 5th to 6th went out. i thought that was crazy bc i only have 34,000 miles on the car. but i still love mine and i hate that im getting rid of her

Toook a roadster up to button willow and its an 07 version , man that engine is very nice,. Gave a good run for the money on the vipers and also the P cars had a lot of fun , destroyed the tires and the rear brakes. :) :bigok:

Gnnr
12-07-2007, 11:04 AM
If I didn't get quoted 3600 for 6months in insurance I'd get one. :Ownedd:

xamraci
12-07-2007, 11:12 AM
I love them...plan on getting a red one in august of this coming year...just gotta knock out two more semesters of hell:ugh:

Great cars...the interior is nice, a bit plasticy...but if you have a S14 it wont bother you...its a step up and they are just really fun cars and astheticly they are SmOKIN

Bushido
12-07-2007, 01:30 PM
350z = heavy, expensive, limited on functionality with cramped space...

for the money, i'd have a vq35de in an s chassis.

Naughty240
12-07-2007, 03:25 PM
I wanted one, then a g coupe, instead i got a g sedan 6mt. The z has great looks get red!

blackcoupe
12-07-2007, 03:31 PM
the Z is a step up for sure. the power feeels soooo nice and the car is built pretty solid. heres my brothers car.
http://www.fatlace.com/hellaflush/?p=162

16 yr old drftr
12-07-2007, 03:42 PM
350Z is much faster and much more of a car, period.

i dont want to hear this shit

my stripped car with SR got beatup at highway speeds by Z/G35.. its faster. Not a whole lot, but it is.

the neck-snapping turbo power is fun in an SR, but its inconsistent. the Z on the other hand, is fucking BORING with its flat and plain powerband... but speeds come fairly quick.

personally, i prefer the lightness and agility of my s13, obviously. but the Z or G35 is more of a high speed car.. period.

a 4cyl will always be a 4, and a 6 will always be a 6. no sense in comparing apples with oranges. a built 4 is good and can compete (or even beat) a stock 350Z.... but the motor deals with more stress and wont last as long.

....

as for the Z/G, i hear constant complaints from all my customers about oil consumption and tire feathering. that, plus the cost of mods. if you buy a Z, expect to pay through the nose for parts...


my s13 with full interior no lsd, shitty kumos, blah, blah, blah, with sr on 11.5 psi rolled 350z all day

status:one
12-07-2007, 03:50 PM
The Silver Z33 that I posted up with the Work wheels is not mine....but the specs of the wheels that I found on it are 19x9 +2 19x10.5 +7

Here is some other flush fitment on a Z.

19x10-25 in the rear:

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc81/shiatsu16n/19x10-25.jpg
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc81/shiatsu16n/19x10-252.jpg

19x10.5 +18
19x11 + 20

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc81/shiatsu16n/19x10518offs19x1120offs.jpg
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc81/shiatsu16n/19x10518offs19x1120offsbbbb.jpg
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc81/shiatsu16n/19x10518offs19x1120offsbbbbb.jpg

Dont know dimension on this wheel, but its sick.
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc81/shiatsu16n/CIMG0053.jpg

tanman8181
12-07-2007, 03:54 PM
the white car is running

19x10 -4
19x11 -16

status:one
12-07-2007, 04:02 PM
awesome thanks for sharing that. +1 You the owner of the Silver Vertex?

tanman8181
12-07-2007, 04:44 PM
awesome thanks for sharing that. +1 You the owner of the Silver Vertex?

Yes I am :naughty:

unit_121
12-07-2007, 04:51 PM
They drive smooth man, chicks love the car. get it

Bushido
12-07-2007, 09:37 PM
seeing an s30 next to a z33, even that busted orange 280z... makes me sad that the 350Z doesn't honor its heritage in it's design. How did the Z turn into such a bubbly looking pod?

If i was in the market for a Z, I'd definitely buy the G coupe, its the better looking more practical one of the two.

In my opinion the g coupe is going to look great in 20 years, and the 350Z is going to look how the 280zx looks today.

1985zcar
12-08-2007, 12:05 AM
My moms got one, granted it's an auto, it's still pretty fun, seems to be a good car, we haven't had any problems with it yet.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/skylinegtracer22/350Z/350Edit7.jpg

Bushido
12-08-2007, 10:19 AM
i wonder if nissan targeted the 350Z to 40-50 year old mom's... because thats definitely the majority of it's drivers...

ixfxi
12-08-2007, 11:06 AM
http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/3919/350z21pf5.jpg

ugh........... not to be a dick, but that front bumper and hood are reminders of why i hate when people modify they're Z's. a great looking car STOCK, but looks like complete shit when people start doing the wrong things to it. just like the FD RX7 and NSX, its great STOCK!!!!!

the wheels are nice though, obviously... cant go wrong there. but god that hood sucks and the bumper needs to be painted

status:one
12-08-2007, 02:30 PM
i wonder if nissan targeted the 350Z to 40-50 year old mom's... because thats definitely the majority of it's drivers...

I disagree. I think their are more owners in that age group with a G35. Ultimately, I see more late 20s to mid 30s age group driving the Z and the G

beetlejuice
12-09-2007, 12:09 AM
Depends on where you live.

In Las Vegas, you see 20 year old female strippers driving lifted full-size trucks.

In North Carolina, you see 16-58 year old male rednecks with gun racks driving lifted full-size trucks.

Here, I mostly see 20-30 something males driving 350z's, with the occasional mid-life crisis gray haired dude or 40 something chubby female.

There are a million G35's in vegas (coupes and sedans), not nearly as many 350z's on the road here.

fd3s14
12-09-2007, 12:11 AM
This guy at my schools drives a Turbo 350z with Te37 time attack. Super sexy, truly a chick magnet.

ixfxi
12-09-2007, 12:18 PM
dave the flaming king, u still have a 240, i remember u the old guy who used to stalk mike mamos, tyrone, and alex chang. While personal attacks are fun, but they are quite trite and childish for a 40 yr old man with a 240.

To me (who has driven the Z plenty of times and owned a G35 since 03) the extra weight in the Z to me is indeed ponderous, it makes every corner for that type of car muted and u feel it transfer alot of weight in braking and acceleration it makes the car to me feel like kind of numb especially when doing a switch back or S curve. in my opinion the Z is more of a GT car than the S2000. As a former owner of a 240 (i might ad since 1996) an owner stepping up to a Z would definitely feel the weight and overall isolation of the car, hence the s2000 or even rx-8 should be looked as well as they represent a lighter and purer expression of the modern FR car.

The s2000 roadster is about as stiff as a open top car can get, in both stock and Club Racer (08+) form its about as solid as the Z33 closed top. Last time i checked it makes a decent rival to the Z and is probably as good a choice for Daily drive.

The roadster Z33 is pretty crappy, and exacerbates the problem with weight and adds cowl shake and a very complicated convertible top mechanism.

ooooooooooooh god, here we go again. Another "Will" thread...

I cant believe I didnt see this. I skimmed this thread a few days ago and completely overlooked the banter between you and dave. Seriously though.............


HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU COMPARING, a Honda S2000 with a 350Z? Even worse, an RX-8?!?! AGH.

Glenn and I were talking to Dave yesterday about this and it made no fucking sense... the cars are ALL different. But come on Will... RX-8?!? Are you smoking crack? In stock form, that car is a terd. Its bad enough being a Mazda, but an under-powered one at that! The dealerships were actually buying them back because they advertised more HP than they really had. Plus its fuckin ugly...


Out of all the cars, I consider the Z the sexiest of the bunch. The S2000 isnt a bad car, but its way too "HONDA" for me. After driving the car for a while, I found it fuckin TIRING to constantly shift this whiney bitch of a motor with no torque. Gaddamn... I got tired of listening to 8-billion rpms of buzzing, and having to reach 5k just to PASS other cars. Its a horrible highway car, but fun for the twisties...

The Z is a strong, sexy & stable car. Highway speeds are seamless. The braking is good. The only things that I didnt care about for the Z was the motor's monotonous/ubiquitous sound, plain and unentertaining powerband, bland interior, and over-sensative steering - it makes long drives twitchy, and canyon driving a bit touchy. Combine that with shitty stock tires and TCS becomes a necessity for almost every spirited driving occasion. I drove it with TCS off and got the car sideways, but the instant-delivery of power and short wheelbase makes the car snap rather quickly... unlike a 240 which gives you much more notice when it swings.

No matter, at the end of the night the Z will get all types of international panties thrown in your face. The S2000......... well, its ok... if you're into impressing 20 year old asian girls (hmmm dave, maybe something to consider here!)

oh yeah, the drive by wire sucks... but goes for so many newer cars nowadays.

ixfxi
12-09-2007, 12:26 PM
actually i'm just stating the facts that i have observed about you and from the times we laughed at you. Most of those ppl u mentioned laughed at you as well, and continue too.

no i have nothing really to prove to some so childish guy with manboobs.

actually i never liked you because u were a hanger on, nothing more nothing less. If that makes your squeaky voice tremble with anger thats wonderful, but trite.

Exactly i made it w/ education mr. squeaker, and your money excuse is laughable at best, thats what the poor say to their masters.,.


come on will.... its obvious you have something to prove or you wouldnt have wasted your time trying to romance dave with this fuckin novel you're writing him. not only are you observing dave's features (which i might add.. is rather gay)... but you're not even a thin guy! shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiet.... you're taiwanese but built like an american! ha


if you dont like dave and want to talk shit, no problem.. just be a man and be up-front about it. makes no sense why you say "WE," who are these other people on your team of anti-dave haters? one simple test: compare your rep and compare daves rep. dave wins, you lose. just because you own (or owned) a 240 doesnt mean you're a part of the community - its what you do with your time and how you help others that makes you part of the community. even take alex chang for example, hes put in SO MUCH time & effort..... (regardless if hes weird and anti social online)... he's helped a LOT of people throughout the years and done a lot of good things.


dave has literally helped *billions* of people in the 240 community, which is more than i can say for you. Personally, I dont care if a person has a masters, doctorate, or a fuckin high school dropout - all i care is that they are good natured and respectable individuals. Who cares what car(s) they own or if they dont own a car. Who cares if they are rich or broke. Who cares if they speak proper english or dont. Who cares if they were born in US, China, or Iraq. That shit has NOTHING TO DO with being a good person, let alone being apart of the community.

You're a good guy Will, you just gotta stop being so damn snotty and learn that theres much more to life than material possessions.

mike / clearcorners

Jimmy Up
12-09-2007, 04:26 PM
This has been really helpful seeing as I'm going to look at an 04 Z in about 3 hours. It's rockin 60,000 miles though and I'm a bit skeptic just because not all motors can handle upwards of 200K like the KA and I was just wondering if there is anybody in here that is drivin one with that kind of mileage or is this guy just trying to get rid of his car before everything takes a shit.

status:one
12-09-2007, 05:43 PM
I want a Pikes Peak White 350z. If it had 60,000 miles I'd still take it considering I only do about 7000 miles a year. Go to my350z.com and search for high mileage Zs to see if they have any issues.

posdriftin
12-09-2007, 05:50 PM
seeing an s30 next to a z33, even that busted orange 280z... makes me sad that the 350Z doesn't honor its heritage in it's design. How did the Z turn into such a bubbly looking pod?

If i was in the market for a Z, I'd definitely buy the G coupe, its the better looking more practical one of the two.

In my opinion the g coupe is going to look great in 20 years, and the 350Z is going to look how the 280zx looks today.


i think it still keeps it heritage.. as far as the interior goes.. like the dual gauges for speed and tach ,,, and the three gauges in the middle of the dash like the s30,s130 chassis and z31.... and buckets with long center console

Bushido
12-09-2007, 08:34 PM
apart from the 3 center auxiliary gauges, the 350z only shares one other direct z car design cue, which is a weak one at that since it was used only on the Z32... the hatch shut line. apart from those 2 things, there aren't any other similarities to Z's of the past.

Jimmy Up
12-09-2007, 10:09 PM
so i drove the car and it pulls, i loved it! but there is a noise from the right rear of the car, im assuming the axle. I forget if i read it here or on another forum but from what i read its pretty common. he encouraged me to take it to a mechanic and he'll pay for whatever is makin the noise but I dont know any nissan techs...

articdragon192
12-09-2007, 10:12 PM
www.corner3garage.com

Call them up. Steve, the main tech there is a Nissan Master Tech and has various Z33s come into his shop. I'm sure he has a name for himself on the Z boards in the local OC area.

Jimmy Up
12-09-2007, 11:08 PM
Thanks much bro, I will definitely give them a call. All I need after that is a zilvia sticker and I'll be MOBBIN :)

drift freaq
12-10-2007, 11:12 PM
seeing an s30 next to a z33, even that busted orange 280z... makes me sad that the 350Z doesn't honor its heritage in it's design. How did the Z turn into such a bubbly looking pod?

If i was in the market for a Z, I'd definitely buy the G coupe, its the better looking more practical one of the two.

In my opinion the g coupe is going to look great in 20 years, and the 350Z is going to look how the 280zx looks today.

Actually In Japan the Z33 is already consider a long term Classic while the G35 is not really liked. The G35 is a car for Americans, i.e. a luxury sports GT not a sports car. The Z is a Sports car. Looks are in the eye of the beholder. One mans fine women is another mans ordinary looking women.


Oh and I will not pander to Wylin's trite childish combacks and name calling. I defended myself as anyone would. He was proven wrong by I and others . All he is doing is retorting with personel attacks and name calling. I think we all know who the child is by his actions.

Jimmy Up
12-12-2007, 10:47 AM
i picked it up last night- im 15,000 in debt but its already worth every penny. 350Zs are bonerific

Peter_North
12-12-2007, 11:05 AM
my s13 with full interior no lsd, shitty kumos, blah, blah, blah, with sr on 11.5 psi rolled 350z all day

350z's run 14s bone stock, making an SR S13 beat one in a drag race is easy. People are running 12s with stock turbo SR's.

ixfxi
12-12-2007, 11:26 AM
People are running 12s with stock turbo SR's.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAAHAH






sorry

edit: hey peter north, stick to porno baby...

Creizai
12-13-2007, 12:17 AM
350z's run 14s bone stock, making an SR S13 beat one in a drag race is easy. People are running 12s with stock turbo SR's.

I've heard this before but I've never seen proof. I did a youtube search and most 12s were with T28s. I guess that would put T25s with upped boost in 13s though. God... why are we even talking about drag racing. What cars stock for stock drifts better :2f2f: and drops panties better :keke:

ixfxi
12-13-2007, 12:31 PM
I've heard this before but I've never seen proof. I did a youtube search and most 12s were with T28s. I guess that would put T25s with upped boost in 13s though. God... why are we even talking about drag racing. What cars stock for stock drifts better :2f2f: and drops panties better :keke:

http://www.carforums.net/showthread.php?t=10251

just a reality check for people, incase they forgot what most stock cars TYPICALLY run.

yeah, the holy NISSAN motor... the S-R-2-0-D-E-T... runs 11's without a fuckin flinch, right?


please, as much as i love my blacktop.... shits far from holy. great motor? yes. super-car fast? no.

beetlejuice
12-13-2007, 01:25 PM
If I'm not mistaken, Aubrey Bailey (guy on FreshAlloy from Georgia) ran a 12.9 on a t-25 with bolt-ons (250whp) back in 98 or 99.

I'm mildly entertained by the 240sx vs 350z talk and the personal attacks between a few of the zilvians.

That aside, I appreciate the insight into the 350z.

In the spring, I'll be on the lookout for an 04-05 350z.