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pablo180
11-26-2007, 12:10 PM
Dont know if this is a repost or not....

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/11/s16-a_opt.jpg

http://bp3.blogger.com/_FiUMvNVayFc/R0cpQi-82yI/AAAAAAAAApA/3wHHkd16wPQ/s400/s16-b.jpg

http://bp2.blogger.com/_FiUMvNVayFc/R0sYDS-820I/AAAAAAAAApQ/qhvGfUa8bNs/s400/scoop_1126

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/11/26/rendered-speculation-nissan-sylvia-on-comeback-trail/
http://rocketpunchautoblog.blogspot.com/2007/11/if-you-build-it-they-will-buy-nissan.html

hsoj_v
11-26-2007, 12:13 PM
I like it. =)

Unholy S14
11-26-2007, 12:13 PM
1 - looks like a new SI

2 - looks like a 07 STI coupe

3 - there will always be speculation about a new silvia but thats just it, speculation. When i see something from nissan then i will believe it.

Bushido
11-26-2007, 12:17 PM
uuuh, no.
not going to look anything like that.

steve shadows
11-26-2007, 12:17 PM
does everything nissan makes now have to be a fucking renault? :ugh:
god

MELLO*SOS
11-26-2007, 12:18 PM
What is so hard about just posting the image in the thread.. I hate the click thru game

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/11/s16-a_opt.jpg

Last December we reported that Nissan was seriously considering a rear-wheel-drive replacement for the much missed 240SX, a.k.a. the Silvia in Japan. Rumors have continued to surface since then of Nissan's plans, with Winding Road even posting spy shots of a mule this past summer that may have been such a car undergoing testing. Another blog by the name of Rocket Punch Auto Blog claims to know that a new Silvia has gotten the green light and will arrive by 2010 with a price point between ¥2,000,000 and 2,500,000 ($18,435 and 23,044 USD). These renderings (click here to view rear shot) show what a new 240SX and Silvia might look like when it debuts on a modified version of the 350Z's platform. Regardless of how the car looks, the prospect of a new reasonably-priced rear-wheel-drive offering from any automaker is exciting news to us. We await the day in the near future when Nissan's 240SX/Silvia descendant shares a stoplight with a new incarnation of Toyota's famous AE86, which is also rumored to be in development. Throw in a Pontiac Solstice Coupe for good measure and we have ourselves a new bang-for-the-buck performance segment.

CKAMC
11-26-2007, 12:18 PM
headlamps and tail lamps make sense

body mimic's a mini G35.... makes sense

front bumper..... needs some more work

I think Mel has this posted in his thread, not sure, dont read off topic much

Edgar
11-26-2007, 12:19 PM
I think it looks like a Altima/Maxima RWD :(

SimpleSexy180
11-26-2007, 12:20 PM
mutha fuckas ill buy it.

25k price would be real nice.

MURPHY
11-26-2007, 12:20 PM
they can't bring back the sylvia. never was made

slidingsky
11-26-2007, 12:20 PM
I will cry if they do the headlights like that. I understand that is Nissan's styling que and all but its not a Silvia with headlights like that.

azndoc
11-26-2007, 12:21 PM
I like the wheels in that image.

Hmmmm....

SimpleSexy180
11-26-2007, 12:21 PM
well we still have two or so more years until release..

CKAMC
11-26-2007, 12:24 PM
mutha fuckas ill buy it.

25k price would be real nice.

dont forget dealer mark up

like that automate BS

Bushido
11-26-2007, 12:25 PM
that rendering looks like shit.

it shares nothing with silvia's of the past, and i'm positive that Nissan wouldn't be stupid enough to make the car look like that.

S13Boosts
11-26-2007, 12:27 PM
pop up lights would be great!:2f2f:

Andrew @ 240sxMotoring
11-26-2007, 12:28 PM
That rumor has been floating around since Nissan discounted the Silvia. I won't believe it till I see something from Nissan.

240trainee
11-26-2007, 12:29 PM
pop up lights would be great!:2f2f:

lol, no, that shit is so dated.

dorkidori_s13
11-26-2007, 12:36 PM
i did a buncha diggin a while ago about the new silvia...and i will say it would be exciting to have a new S chassis again (even though it wont be S any longer)...personally if nissan came out with that car above tomorrow and it had a RWD 4cyl turbo engine with a manual tranny...id buy it PERIOD (would be nice to own a brand new silvia)

Bushido
11-26-2007, 12:38 PM
There is definitely a Nissan FR that slots in below the 350Z in the works. Nissan has been hinting at this with the Urge and Foria concepts.
Mazda and Toyota also have one in development too, and Hyundai is bringing their new Genesis to market next year. The compact FR market is about to have a serious resurgence, exciting times.

Shortened 350Z's have been caught testing at the Nurburgring, and it is said that under the modified Z's sheet metal, lies a shortened version of the FM.

I've been working on a few renderings of my own over the past couple years on that I think the "S16" should look like, this is a very rough and unfinished one I did recently:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/domeniccucunato/car%20pics/photoshops/silbeer16.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/domeniccucunato/car%20pics/photoshops/1.jpg

-Shortened 350Z FM platform

-Base engine VQ25DE

-Spec-R model with VQ30DET

-least amount of options possible to keep the price attainable for the average person. the focus of this car should be to be a "drivers" car... No heated leather 16-way electric adjustable seats, no auto dimming rear view mirror, no unnecessary options that would complicate things and add to the price.

-target price of $19,900 for base model and around 26,000 for the top model.

opponheimer
11-26-2007, 12:40 PM
I really hate it..

stinky_180
11-26-2007, 12:43 PM
i'de rock it as a daily driver...

bigOdom1
11-26-2007, 12:47 PM
black with black leather

jackjack
11-26-2007, 12:48 PM
based off the picture, no thanks. i'm sure it'll change though.

dorkidori_s13
11-26-2007, 12:49 PM
id TOTALL buy the fuker if it looks like this...

http://bp2.blogger.com/_FiUMvNVayFc/R0sYDS-820I/AAAAAAAAApQ/qhvGfUa8bNs/s1600/scoop_1126_01.jpg

*drooooooooool*

Bobafreak
11-26-2007, 12:52 PM
wow makes me want to sell my car and wait in 2 yrs. id track it.

slidingsky
11-26-2007, 12:53 PM
Now those lights I could deal with.

tunerzimage
11-26-2007, 12:59 PM
2 - looks like a 07 STI coupe




WTF???? no such thing..

IStop4NoMan
11-26-2007, 01:07 PM
I wouldnt put too much thought into those pictures. the GT-R went through a lot of changes. If this is a 2010 model, it wont look like those renderings anyways.

but the rear end does look like a s2000 on a sidenote haha. and it has G35 wheels?

slideattack
11-26-2007, 01:12 PM
I think its photoshop using a g35

ALEXTHESUS*PECT
11-26-2007, 01:19 PM
bushidos car lokks hot!

+ rep for you!

burnsauto
11-26-2007, 01:25 PM
well at least that version has SOME reseblance of the S15....the front bumper leaves something to be desired...but they prob. wont stick with that design.

UfoZ8myCow
11-26-2007, 01:29 PM
Fuck it, if Nissan made a cheap RWD coupe Id buy that shit.

Driving a brand new car sure beats the hell out of driving an old ass fucking 14 year old RWD shitbox in my book.

DUDEIDONTHAVEA240
11-26-2007, 01:31 PM
it looks like a mercedes

Sonic Motor
11-26-2007, 01:31 PM
Fuck it, if Nissan made a cheap RWD coupe Id buy that shit.

Driving a brand new car sure beats the hell out of driving an old ass fucking 14 year old RWD shitbox in my book.

amen to that! haha

:werd:

firelizard
11-26-2007, 01:33 PM
I dig all the concepts posted above.

Anything is better than the Rogue as far as styling.

dorkidori_s13
11-26-2007, 01:34 PM
driving an old ass fucking 14 year old RWD shitbox in my book.

NO SHIT!!!! +1 FOR YOU!!! (even though u hate sportmax wheels)

Bobafreak
11-26-2007, 01:36 PM
i doubt it be in that price range im suiting 30k around there. but we shall see. Bushido i love the sketch. (borat voice) very nice!

godzillarb
11-26-2007, 01:40 PM
Looks too much like everything else, all the styles seem to be melting together.

I'll keep my RB s14

Kn1ves
11-26-2007, 01:41 PM
NO SHIT!!!! +1 FOR YOU!!! (even though u hate sportmax wheels)

oh jesus christ please dont tell me youre going to want to buy a brand new car to put sport max wheels on it.

EDIT:

Holy crap Bushido, they must have really liked your concept cuz they put it into production!
http://www.autobild.de/ir_img/38575156_6c31c549e7.jpg

Renault Laguna Coupe. Cats out of the bag now.

heyitzalan
11-26-2007, 01:59 PM
There is definitely a Nissan FR that slots in below the 350Z in the works. Nissan has been hinting at this with the Urge and Foria concepts.
Mazda and Toyota also have one in development too, and Hyundai is bringing their new Genesis to market next year. The compact FR market is about to have a serious resurgence, exciting times.

Shortened 350Z's have been caught testing at the Nurburgring, and it is said that under the modified Z's sheet metal, lies a shortened version of the FM.

I've been working on a few renderings of my own over the past couple years on that I think the "S16" should look like, this is a very rough and unfinished one I did recently:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/domeniccucunato/car%20pics/photoshops/silbeer16.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/domeniccucunato/car%20pics/photoshops/1.jpg

-Shortened 350Z FM platform

-Base engine VQ25DE

-Spec-R model with VQ30DET

-least amount of options possible to keep the price attainable for the average person. the focus of this car should be to be a "drivers" car... No heated leather 16-way electric adjustable seats, no auto dimming rear view mirror, no unnecessary options that would complicate things and add to the price.

-target price of $19,900 for base model and around 26,000 for the top model.

that looks pretty much good for new concept to be a s16. the headlight looks like it evolve from s15 headlights. don't you guys agree?:w00t:

Bobafreak
11-26-2007, 02:10 PM
i like it. As far as that being it, im sure it will change once again. Ill wait until i receive a new option magazine with some coverage to verify this will be the new concept. Its just my thing will be should i stick to finishing my car and maybe sell it for this or just keep it and admire another new car? So many nice cars and great options out there. You have to love the automotive industry. Us having change of hearts so often. If changing girlfriends was that easy. >_<

Unholy S14
11-26-2007, 02:19 PM
WTF???? no such thing..

check it homie

just erase the scoop

http://www.scoobytuner.com/newsImages.original/122.jpg

http://bp2.blogger.com/_FiUMvNVayFc/R0sYDS-820I/AAAAAAAAApQ/qhvGfUa8bNs/s400/scoop_1126

Tops*
11-26-2007, 02:21 PM
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/11/s16-a_opt.jpg

http://bp3.blogger.com/_FiUMvNVayFc/R0cpQi-82yI/AAAAAAAAApA/3wHHkd16wPQ/s400/s16-b.jpg


The rear end looks similar to that of an S2000. I like it a lot.

http://z.about.com/d/cars/1/7/g/Z/jf_07s2000_rear.jpg

IMO the front needs a lot of work. It's ugly as shit. Ruins the whole car.

xplicit240
11-26-2007, 02:22 PM
its like a g35! ahhahah mini version

TRU_DAH-V
11-26-2007, 02:23 PM
There is definitely a Nissan FR that slots in below the 350Z in the works. Nissan has been hinting at this with the Urge and Foria concepts.
Mazda and Toyota also have one in development too, and Hyundai is bringing their new Genesis to market next year. The compact FR market is about to have a serious resurgence, exciting times.

Shortened 350Z's have been caught testing at the Nurburgring, and it is said that under the modified Z's sheet metal, lies a shortened version of the FM.

I've been working on a few renderings of my own over the past couple years on that I think the "S16" should look like, this is a very rough and unfinished one I did recently:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/domeniccucunato/car%20pics/photoshops/silbeer16.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/domeniccucunato/car%20pics/photoshops/1.jpg

-Shortened 350Z FM platform

-Base engine VQ25DE

-Spec-R model with VQ30DET

-least amount of options possible to keep the price attainable for the average person. the focus of this car should be to be a "drivers" car... No heated leather 16-way electric adjustable seats, no auto dimming rear view mirror, no unnecessary options that would complicate things and add to the price.

-target price of $19,900 for base model and around 26,000 for the top model.



damn i wouldnt mind driving this around:bigok:

Bobafreak
11-26-2007, 02:24 PM
check it homie

just erase the scoop

http://www.scoobytuner.com/newsImages.original/122.jpg

http://bp2.blogger.com/_FiUMvNVayFc/R0sYDS-820I/AAAAAAAAApQ/qhvGfUa8bNs/s400/scoop_1126

think what he meant earlier by your comment was you mentioned coupe and he mistakenly thought you meant the sti was a coupe but what you meant was its a coupe version of a sti. Yeah yea yea i know this is mind boggling but someone had to do it. I was gonna bring it to point till the photos and all this...

Unholy S14
11-26-2007, 02:26 PM
hahah i gotcha

thanks lol :)

Kn1ves
11-26-2007, 02:26 PM
http://bp2.blogger.com/_FiUMvNVayFc/R0sYDS-820I/AAAAAAAAApQ/qhvGfUa8bNs/s400/scoop_1126
vs.
http://www.autobytel.com/images/2005/Mercedes_Benz/SLK350/400/2005_Mercedes_SLK350_exfrdrvr34.jpg

Unholy S14
11-26-2007, 02:27 PM
ok looks JUST LIKE a slk

Kn1ves
11-26-2007, 02:30 PM
Thats cuz it is an SLK photoshopped with a Nissan front.

The rear of the Renault Laguna Coupe
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/09/renault_laguna_1.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/09/renault_laguna_2.jpg

Bushido
11-26-2007, 02:31 PM
oh jesus christ please dont tell me youre going to want to buy a brand new car to put sport max wheels on it.

EDIT:

Holy crap Bushido, they must have really liked your concept cuz they put it into production!

Renault Laguna Coupe. Cats out of the bag now.

Yeah, I started with the Laguna coupe, a logical starting point due to the Renault/Nissan alliance. I think the lines on this car have potential to become silvia-like with a little modification, hence my photoshop.

I'm still working on it, give me a little time and you'll see..

Kn1ves
11-26-2007, 02:32 PM
You havent been working on it. You just took out the badges and put rims. Not fair to call it your own rendering.


EDIT: Its a FWD vehicle btw. Oh and turned the lights upside down

Bushido
11-26-2007, 02:35 PM
what the fuck are you talking about? look at the pictures side by side. the facia has been changed and the lights are a different shape. yeah, its a Laguna thats modified.

did i not say that it's a work in progress?

and who cares if its FWD, its an exterior rendering.

Unholy S14
11-26-2007, 02:36 PM
easy premies

we are family lol

Kn1ves
11-26-2007, 02:41 PM
what the fuck are you talking about? look at the pictures side by side. the facia has been changed and the lights are a different shape. yeah, its a Laguna thats modified.

did i not say that it's a work in progress?

and who cares if its FWD, its an exterior rendering.

Ok fine you win. Its your rendering.
Heres mine

http://illusivedesigns.net/kn1ves/renault_laguna_2.jpg

Unholy S14
11-26-2007, 02:42 PM
now thats a car id buy

CKAMC
11-26-2007, 03:03 PM
hmm nissan can call renault and in a short matter if time make it happen.

I like the tails on the render... the headlamps the the concept...but that front numper... reminds me of the DAMD Z33......

http://www.damd.co.jp/products/imagesCars/fairladyz04_bm_a.jpg

bumpern needs some work.

Engine option... VQ25HR and maybe a turbo trim of the motor.

please no QR....

f22_2_KA
11-26-2007, 03:04 PM
Thats nice, I'd buy it

qt_240
11-26-2007, 03:07 PM
ill' def. be in the market for an "s16" if it gets released.. and of course if there is a Turbo option. =)

Unstroked
11-26-2007, 03:11 PM
I would buy it... Cheaper then an Evo and getting sideways is more fun.

motorsnail
11-26-2007, 03:14 PM
I would just buy a G35,that thing seems to bubble up to much I no likey. Needs a bigger back seat window aswell doesnt seem like a 240 or silvia to me. Looks like a 350z fucked an altima:(

ROUGE180
11-26-2007, 03:21 PM
Ok fine you win. Its your rendering.
Heres mine

http://illusivedesigns.net/kn1ves/renault_laguna_2.jpg

hahahhahah Im at work and I almost fell out of my chair. I love Zilvia.. comics everywhere. Chopped, rendered or whatever I think it's dope...BUSHIDO MAD SKILLZZ!! needs some love in the front but I'd rock it. They need to do one of those retro deals like the camaro.. sweet ole school S chassis squarish styling with all the new school technotroniks. I'd buy 1 if they released it. Hell look at the skyline and how long that model has been running and we finally get one!! Well technically a GTR as the monicar "Skyline" went bye bye. It was wrong of them to not give us the S15. Alot of us would be driving those around right now and Nissan would be making buku papah. With how the import world is going and how hardcore us nissan owners are, they are going to have to give us something...

UfoZ8myCow
11-26-2007, 03:48 PM
Renault or not, that Laguna looks dope. If that thing is RWD with a decent powerplant and they sold it in the US Id be at my local Renault dealer right now buying one.

Landers
11-26-2007, 03:59 PM
Couldnt agree more ^^^^^^^^^^^

Peter_North
11-26-2007, 04:06 PM
No thanks


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k's_silvia2.0
11-26-2007, 04:32 PM
It will never be the same:(
But change is good:)

Kougeki
11-26-2007, 04:38 PM
Looks too much like an Accord or like the new Sentra coupe.

JoeC1982
11-26-2007, 04:41 PM
Looks too much like an Accord or like the new Sentra coupe.
What sentra coupe? nissan had the azeal concept in 2005 which is looks just like the 07 sentras.

http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/concept/2006/800px/2005_03_azeal.jpg

dorkidori_s13
11-26-2007, 05:10 PM
azeal = FAIL!!! ugh

deolio
11-26-2007, 06:08 PM
why can't the try to incorporate some of the classic styles. just like they did when the brought back those sexy headlights from the 70's skylines and used similar design on the r34. mmm brick headlights...

11-26-2007, 08:51 PM
I dont like it, although the front does have potential.

dorkidori_s13
11-26-2007, 09:14 PM
well...with the way the market place is now...and how well rwd japanese sports cars are selling...the silvia is a shoe in and nissan would be VERY stupid not to bring the car back out...they have a HUGE hole in their car line up right now...and the silvia would fill that hole...and from what ive read in various places...the sentra SE-R is the biggest joke since the hyrbid escalade...not only are people dying for the car in america...its all over the world that its happening...after the S15 and R34 GTR were discontinued...nissan sales in australia dipped 34%...thats a HUGE margin

i think that the introduction of the car will be made within the next 6-9 months...and a concept car will be made and presented prolly at next years tokyo auto salon...or even at 2008s detroit auto show...carlos ghosn (sp) has said numerous times in the past "keep your eyes and ears open around the the time the GTR is released...youll be in for a surprise" everytime someone asked at a major press conference about the silvia

how pumped would you be knowing you could walk into a dealership and say "yah hi...id like a new s16 silvia in *insert color here* with all the factory aero in 5 speed...k thx bai"

worangejuice
11-26-2007, 09:17 PM
hhmmmm sweet, probably never come here looking like that. Damn the market for making these 'new' models that are just touched up or slightly modified older foreign models.bastards lyin' to us. Thank you for the 'new' Pontiac GTO by the way! ( I get it not officially the same car but an overall first glance) As Australia laughs at us.jeez. Wishful thinking for a new 'Silvia' type model though. The new Camaro hasn't even hit the streets yet, or has it? next year maybe?

SimpleS14
11-27-2007, 12:17 PM
I can see such a car come to existence....just not in the U.S.

I much rather see what's in store for the next gen Z.

That Azeal concept always had me wondering why Nissan doesn't make a Sentra coupe. I think that would be more fitting for the SE-R variant.

Petoria
11-27-2007, 12:38 PM
Bringing the Silvia, in that name, to the US is long over due. How many years were people begging for the STI or the Evo and during that time people said oh its just young people wanting it and they wont sell. How many Sti/Evos's do you see a day now? If Nissan came out with FR with options like the Q's and the K's, and keep it around 25K loaded, there would be a waiting list to get one. I know the majority of us on this board would run out and get one. Just my opinon, but hay I think its a good one:hsdance:.

Silverbullet
11-27-2007, 12:40 PM
Nissan USA cut off the 240sx line in 98... but i think there is a bigger demand now for inexpensive RWD sport cars than there was 10 years ago.

If it comes to America, i wonder if it will be called a "240sx" or whatever displacement number or if it would be a Silvia, and have the general public think is a brand new name.

I also wonder how similar the chassis would be to the classic S14/S15 for future motor swaps. Most likely it will be completely redesigned.

Such a teaser, we want more info Nissan!

opponheimer
11-27-2007, 01:04 PM
Requirements for The Cars To Come:

1) Bubbly-stubby appearance.
2) Must have no attractive body lines.
3) Must look "cute" to a 16 year old girl.


I hate the new paths car designers are taking..

LA_phantom_240
11-27-2007, 01:12 PM
Also, must have ridiculously long headlights that come inches from touching the doors.

mrpeepers
11-27-2007, 01:13 PM
ya my guts tell me carlos is up to something.... we will see this soon

Size
11-27-2007, 01:18 PM
^ x2 something is in the serious works as the fr market has gotten a renewal thanks to Drifting becoming a serious and accepted motorsport




i just hope that it doesn't look like a G that humped and altima coupe and farted out a sorry excuse of 30 inch wheel gap!! I hope its wide and low and not tall and ghey!!

JoeC1982
11-27-2007, 02:33 PM
The Altima coupe doesn't look THAT bad, it just sucks thats its heavy and fwd. The white 6 speed turbo one at SEMA was pretty clean.

if they do build it i sure hope they don't put a CVT in it.

KiLLeR2001
11-27-2007, 02:35 PM
S16 240sx ah yes i can see it now, it should come with a brand new SR24DE or SR24DET. YEAH THATS RIGHT, 2.4L SR!!! with the same multi-link rear suspension setup and change the front suspension to something more modern and efficient. And price must be around 19k-25k, so unnecessary options no one really needs don't need to be included.

Unholy S14
11-27-2007, 02:39 PM
doubt it will be a s chassie and there is no SR motor anymore

might be a QR25det

JoeC1982
11-27-2007, 02:42 PM
I'd say QR25 base, VQ25 with vvti, direct injection, etc. with 6 speed as an option. i REALLY doubt nissan would put a turbo on them.

Unholy S14
11-27-2007, 02:43 PM
i think they will

following the genesis/tiburon and the mazda kabura

Akiros
11-27-2007, 04:31 PM
hmmm, id go for an s16.5 lol... and no s13.6's should ever be made.

IStop4NoMan
11-27-2007, 05:18 PM
it will be MR20 base model, 6 spd standard with CVT optional
Se-r model will be QHR25de, 5 spd automatic with padle shifters standard
spec-v will have QHR25de, 6 spd standard
weight - ~3K pounds
leather will be an option, 7 airbags standard for all models.
optional blue tooth rockford fosgate system with steering wheel controls
17 inch rims for spec-v, 16's for base models.
there is your $18K-22K FR car
probably will have a new name, something ending in "a" (versA, sentrA, maximA, etc.)

driftxing
11-27-2007, 05:24 PM
The lines on all these cars are way to stocky for it to resemble the silvia heritage. If you look at any s-chassis car, it has long lines, the car is smooth all the way back with it's body lines. even the s12 and s13 coupes have this slanted-stretched look. All these cars posted look like toyota prius' or civic hatches, not silvias.

Yuri
11-27-2007, 05:33 PM
S16 250SX ;) :
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Yurikaze/Nissan250SX.jpg
Old sketch, sorry for the crappiness, I was learning photoshop.

SexPanda
11-27-2007, 05:36 PM
S16 250SX ;) :
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Yurikaze/Nissan250SX.jpg
Old sketch, sorry for the crappiness, I was learning photoshop.

looks like a db9 had its way with the new gtr and the kid came out with a 4 banger...

i love it.

tunerzimage
11-27-2007, 05:58 PM
check it homie

just erase the scoop

http://www.scoobytuner.com/newsImages.original/122.jpg

http://bp2.blogger.com/_FiUMvNVayFc/R0sYDS-820I/AAAAAAAAApQ/qhvGfUa8bNs/s400/scoop_1126


Body lines are still wayyyy different.

And LOL you said STi "COUPE" Subaru hasn't made an STi Coupe since the GC8.

But i see what you're sayin. I do see some similarities. ^_^

JoeC1982
11-27-2007, 06:00 PM
it will be MR20 base model, 6 spd standard with CVT optional
Se-r model will be QHR25de, 5 spd automatic with padle shifters standard
spec-v will have QHR25de, 6 spd standard
weight - ~3K pounds
leather will be an option, 7 airbags standard for all models.
optional blue tooth rockford fosgate system with steering wheel controls
17 inch rims for spec-v, 16's for base models.
there is your $18K-22K FR car
probably will have a new name, something ending in "a" (versA, sentrA, maximA, etc.)
it will be huh?

is the the MR20 used anywhere in rwd? i know it isn't here, and also silviA ends in "a" :duh:

crazyikimasho
11-27-2007, 06:18 PM
See "Azeal" Concept car
click here (http://www.nissanusa.com/future-and-concept-vehicles/index.html)

Concept features 4 cyl turbo charged engine, sport compact. This hints at a direction they are going towards.

The product planners at Nissan are submitting their input and trying to make a RWD, 4 cyl turbo engine platform but we'll see what ahappens with upper management.

BOROSUN
11-27-2007, 06:22 PM
if they just make a 350z 2+2 i'll be happier.

Unholy S14
11-27-2007, 07:22 PM
I said it looks LIKE a 2dr STI. its not that hard to understand

the concept is 2dr

hence the the 2dr STI part.

racer98
11-27-2007, 11:56 PM
http://www.autocult.com.au/img/gallery/NP8NXXQY.jpghttp://auto-novosti.ru/photo/renault-laguna-concept-coupe-0709-2.jpg


YUCK - this is where they got the idea from :(.

racer98
11-27-2007, 11:57 PM
doubt it will be a s chassie and there is no SR motor anymore

might be a QR25det



VQ25DD !:ughug:

drift freaq
11-28-2007, 12:35 AM
S16 250SX ;) :
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Yurikaze/Nissan250SX.jpg
Old sketch, sorry for the crappiness, I was learning photoshop.

Yuri that looks to damn sexy. I don't think they would greenlight something that sleek looking for a car slated to run below the 350z. LOL

max2damax
11-28-2007, 02:36 PM
I hate when people compare cars with other cars, its like, Ya look at that side profile, its almost the same as this other side profile from this car, look at the wheels they are also round"...... WOW,. .. yes sometimes there are similarities, but come on, its not like every car out there looks completly different

Bushido
11-28-2007, 03:40 PM
yeah, if anything Yuri's design looks more like a Nissan Z than the 350Z does.


heres another quick render I did on a potential styling direction of a new 180sx:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/domeniccucunato/car%20pics/photoshops/New180sx.jpg
(15min work in progress)

Yuri
11-28-2007, 03:56 PM
yeah, if anything Yuri's design looks more like a Nissan Z than the 350Z does.


Thanks, that's what I was going for.
I always felt the S-chassis had more in common with the S30 than the Z33 did.
A return to a light cheap fun car, rather than a showcase of technology that the Z32 was.
I was bringing back classical proportions and a few hints at previous successes.

It's a spiritual successor to the S30 and S13, and I wanted that reflected in its heritage.

exitspeed
11-29-2007, 08:19 AM
I wish I could have got in on this thread sooner.

For those still in denial about Nissan making this car. It's happening. There's no two ways about it. In fact nearly every manufacturer is working on a car in this segment. I believe we will see a concept car within the next years round of Auto shows.

I like the rendering personally. It's cool, and not overdone IMO.

Fractur3
11-29-2007, 08:31 AM
1 - looks like a new SI

2 - looks like a 07 STI coupe

3 - there will always be speculation about a new silvia but thats just it, speculation. When i see something from nissan then i will believe it.
theres no such thing as an sti coupe. there was a guy who photoshoped one but they dont make impreza coupes.. in fact the only thing subaru made a coupe was the old school up to 2000 imprezas i believe

exitspeed
11-29-2007, 08:50 AM
theres no such thing as an sti coupe. there was a guy who photoshoped one but they dont make impreza coupes.. in fact the only thing subaru made a coupe was the old school up to 2000 imprezas i believe

I think he was implying that IF there was a STi coupe, it would look like that.

And Subby's made more then just Impreza Coupes in the past. Young bucks probably won't remember the SVX. They also made a turbo coupe (and vert) back in the 80's. ;)

Fractur3
11-29-2007, 08:58 AM
ya i didnt know thats why i said "i believe" lol, the only 2dr impreza's were the 22b's though correct?

exitspeed
11-29-2007, 09:12 AM
ya i didnt know thats why i said "i believe" lol, the only 2dr impreza's were the 22b's though correct?

Impreza's, yes.

Yuri
11-29-2007, 11:55 AM
Impreza's, yes.

There were non-22B coupes also.

exitspeed
11-29-2007, 12:01 PM
There were non-22B coupes also.

Yea the two from the 80's. The coupe and vert. I don't recall the names. And of course the SVX.

Yuri
11-29-2007, 12:11 PM
Yea the two from the 80's. The coupe and vert. I don't recall the names. And of course the SVX.

No I mean non 22B Impreza STi coupes.
They made non widebody STi coupes called the Type-R.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Yurikaze/Impreza.jpg

As for the older one, you're thinking of the XT:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Yurikaze/subaru-1244-1.jpg

diomedes
11-29-2007, 12:31 PM
Looks nice, but I don't think I'll ever buy it. I'll take those wheels though.

Kn1ves
11-29-2007, 01:26 PM
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/11/renault_alpine_ae_450-op.jpg (http://www.autoblog.com/2007/11/29/renault-alpine-coming-in-2010-with-midship-turbo-power/)
Renault Alpine

I see a lot of URGE in this car
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/06/nissan-urge-concept-2006.jpg

dorkidori_s13
11-29-2007, 04:35 PM
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/11/renault_alpine_ae_450-op.jpg (http://www.autoblog.com/2007/11/29/renault-alpine-coming-in-2010-with-midship-turbo-power/)
Renault Alpine


im glad im not the only one who caught that...i forsee nissan using that chassis (a 60% probability rate lol)

JoeC1982
11-29-2007, 04:56 PM
where do you guys think it will be produced? i think it would have to be done in japan with all the other rwd platforms.

SimpleSexy180
11-29-2007, 05:59 PM
i would love to be able to see my HOOD

Bushido
11-29-2007, 06:23 PM
...Latest news is that Carlos Gohsn has said that the new "Silvia" will use a shortened version of the next 350Z platform.

dorkidori_s13
11-29-2007, 08:22 PM
...Latest news is that Carlos Gohsn has said that the new "Silvia" will use a shortened version of the next 350Z platform.



whered you find this out at? (if it was outside of the info already posted in this thread)

exitspeed
11-29-2007, 08:28 PM
;)

http://rocketpunchautoblog.blogspot.com/2007/11/if-you-build-it-they-will-buy-nissan.html

If the GT-R signifies Nissan's Innovation, the 350z signifies their heritage, then the Silvia (or the 240sx or the 200sx or the 180sx.....you know what I meant...) is the model that signifies their youth. Since the famous (relatively) low cost FR sport coupe ended production in August of 2002. Young drivers armed with a fresh license and too much Initial D anime + Option drifting videos, are all yelling and screaming like the AGK (Angry German Kid) on youtube, demanding the comeback of the FR icon.

Well kids, today is your lucky day....

(artist rendering, not actual car)
Admist all the GT-R coverage dominating the media, It has been reported that the Nissan "Silvia" has been confirmed by both the CEO of Nissan Carlos Ghosn and Nissan's COO Toshiyuki Shiga, and will be making its comeback in 2010 with a price point between 2,000,000~2,500,000 JPY.


Obliviously there are on information at this point on its spec other than it will be a FR sport coupe utilizing the new "Z" platform and possibility powered by a Renault engine.

dorkidori_s13
11-29-2007, 08:30 PM
thats what i meant above =(

racer98
11-29-2007, 08:55 PM
Saw some photos today in one of the Japanese mag's with the finished production car, looks really nice. it was very vague as for the choice of motor's for the line up.

allthough looks like a very nice car.


there need's to be some sort of refinement to the design of the production car as it looks too slimalar to the Altima coupe.

dorkidori_s13
11-29-2007, 09:13 PM
Saw some photos today in one of the Japanese mag's with the finished production car, looks really nice. it was very vague as for the choice of motor's for the line up.

allthough looks like a very nice car.


there need's to be some sort of refinement to the design of the production car as it looks too slimalar to the Altima coupe.


i seriously doubt its the final production model car given nissan hasnt even officially confirmed the silvia to the public yet

racer98
11-29-2007, 09:14 PM
i seriously doubt its the final production model car given nissan hasnt even officially confirmed the silvia to the public yet

Rolling around so.cal with the California Nissan Distributor plate. :aw:

dorkidori_s13
11-29-2007, 09:24 PM
Rolling around so.cal with the California Nissan Distributor plate. :aw:



please scan and post pics

louisdaboois
11-29-2007, 09:25 PM
I think its like the new skyline. hopefully the performance aspect will make it look cooler. more like a silvia, they better keep their balls intact and keep the sr in it, instead of some gay ass bi-boosted V6

dorkidori_s13
11-29-2007, 10:01 PM
I think its like the new skyline. hopefully the performance aspect will make it look cooler. more like a silvia, they better keep their balls intact and keep the sr in it, instead of some gay ass bi-boosted V6


SR is no longer made period...last auto it was put in was the nissan X-Trail...it was an SUV...the SR and RB are no longer manufactured in NEW cars due to emission regulations in japan...plus theyre all old technology...as great as those motors were...the VQ and MR series of engines are MUCH better

rossfashow
11-30-2007, 12:06 AM
that would be awesome bringing back compact fr's

Bushido
11-30-2007, 12:44 AM
it is, because it's happening. FR's are coming. exciting times.

I'm intrigued by what Toyota is working on, they have been developing electric motors with super capacitors that can charge up and supply a boost of power at the push of a button, very cool technology in the pipeline for sure.

powersteeringless180sx
11-30-2007, 01:44 AM
why do they have to make it look so bubbly. why couldn't they follow the same lines as s15. it looks too much like a g37 IMO

exitspeed
11-30-2007, 07:51 AM
Saw some photos today in one of the Japanese mag's with the finished production car, looks really nice. it was very vague as for the choice of motor's for the line up.

allthough looks like a very nice car.


there need's to be some sort of refinement to the design of the production car as it looks too slimalar to the Altima coupe.

It's NOT the final production car. We are at a MINIMUM of a year away from seeing a production car. Nissan hasn't even released official renderings, nor have any been leaked. The Urge was the first concept we seen, and Nissan has SAID that this car will draw cues from that concept. My prediction is we will see a "near-production" concept (similar to the Infinity EX) early to mid next year.

What I'm trying to say is there is a LONG way to go before we see a production version of this car. We have a long ways until we even start seeing a camo-covered mule tooling around.

dkingkong
11-30-2007, 09:11 AM
unreal..
the real photo just looks like a slk chopped.
slightly mixed with is250!

louisdaboois
11-30-2007, 09:18 AM
SR is no longer made period...last auto it was put in was the nissan X-Trail...it was an SUV...the SR and RB are no longer manufactured in NEW cars due to emission regulations in japan...plus theyre all old technology...as great as those motors were...the VQ and MR series of engines are MUCH better

dag yo.... thats heartbreaking. As for the VQ and MR series being much better, I'll take your word for it. I'm sure the Nissan guys know what they are doing. I mean come on, they did define the word "Bad Ass" in the motorsports world since the 60's.

exitspeed
11-30-2007, 09:51 AM
Yea I see the QR25DE and the MR20 being used. Seems like a no brainer.

Bushido
11-30-2007, 09:59 AM
why do they have to make it look so bubbly. why couldn't they follow the same lines as s15. it looks too much like a g37 IMO

Ever stringent pedestrian crash standards forbid low front ends and windshield rakes. High side windows allow more reinforcement in the doors for side impact protection.
There are alot of legal requirements that designers have to conform to. This is why the general shape of cars has become less low slung and more "bubbly" and upright in recent years.

Yea I see the QR25DE and the MR20 being used. Seems like a no brainer.
Maybe they will use a 4 cylinder... The QR25DE has shown to be kind of a lack luster motor, I am not too familiar with the MR20...
But I for one would rather see the next silvia utilizing a small displacement VQ. 2.0 or 2.5...

dorkidori_s13
11-30-2007, 10:07 AM
Ever stringent pedestrian crash standards forbid low front ends and windshield rakes. High side windows allow more reinforcement in the doors for side impact protection.
There are alot of legal requirements that designers have to conform to. This is why the general shape of cars has become less low slung and more "bubbly" and upright in recent years.


Maybe they will use a 4 cylinder... The QR25DE has shown to be kind of a lack luster motor, I am not too familiar with the MR20...
But I for one would rather see the next silvia utilizing a small displacement VQ. 2.0 or 2.5...


QR motors more than likely wont be used if this another "world" sports car...the QR was built here in america...and its a horrible motor...ive read there are TONS of MAJOR problems with them

exitspeed
11-30-2007, 10:10 AM
Ever stringent pedestrian crash standards forbid low front ends and windshield rakes. High side windows allow more reinforcement in the doors for side impact protection.
There are alot of legal requirements that designers have to conform to. This is why the general shape of cars has become less low slung and more "bubbly" and upright in recent years.


Maybe they will use a 4 cylinder... The QR25DE has shown to be kind of a lack luster motor, I am not too familiar with the MR20...
But I for one would rather see the next silvia utilizing a small displacement VQ. 2.0 or 2.5...

MR is a I4. Maybe a MR20DET??? I'd be happy with a real low curb weight (by todays standards) 2900lbs-3100lbs and 240hp.

IStop4NoMan
11-30-2007, 02:58 PM
i have a MR20 in my sentra... well its the only car it comes in in the USA. its not bad, its got decent torque and with the CVT its pretty well matched up for the car. i could see them using it in a base model "silvia". i just dont know how it would take to boost, or if nissan will say screw it and throw in the Qr24de for the US folks.

gripology
11-30-2007, 03:31 PM
If i could i would put in an order for one now. 2010 is little more than 2 years from now and design tastes will change...just be happy Nissan isn't taking design ques from chevy or cadillac!!!

exitspeed
11-30-2007, 03:37 PM
If i could i would put in an order for one now. 2010 is little more than 2 years from now and design tastes will change...just be happy Nissan isn't taking design ques from chevy or cadillac!!!

Really? The new CTS is sexy. I wish my wife would get one. But she don't like Cadillacs. Bitch. :love:

racer98
11-30-2007, 03:39 PM
Really? The new CTS is sexy. I wish my wife would get one. But she don't like Cadillacs. Bitch. :love:

yeah but wait and see how fast that caddy visits the lemmon law buy back Lot. :hsdance:

racer98
11-30-2007, 03:40 PM
New's flash GM to add A salt and Peper shaker for your GM vehicile soon.

racer98
11-30-2007, 03:46 PM
If i could i would put in an order for one now. 2010 is little more than 2 years from now and design tastes will change...just be happy Nissan isn't taking design ques from chevy or cadillac!!!

Dont play the new car game with Nissan. It gets very expensive just wait for a used one when its the right time,. Remember when S14's were $26,000 in 1995 Nissan Show rooms's now how much can you pick up an S14 for :ugh:


let the SRT4 owners drive them first because they have an axe to grind.:keke:
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d162/delongedoug/OT/omnomnom.jpg

ThatGuy
11-30-2007, 03:48 PM
Really? The new CTS is sexy. I wish my wife would get one. But she don't like Cadillacs. Bitch. :love:

Chevy's new Camaro is beautiful!

If I won the Lotto moment: I'd love to have a 1968 Camaro SS and a 2008 Camaro, similarly modded, side by side in my garage. :rawk: :rawk: :rawk:

exitspeed
11-30-2007, 03:49 PM
yeah but wait and see how fast that caddy visits the lemmon law buy back Lot. :hsdance:

You don't pay a lot of attention to what's going on in the industry do you. ;)

Eh'hem...

Yea ABOVE Honda and Toyota.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/exitspeed/jdpowerdepend1.jpg




That's not what this thread is about though, so lets stay on topic. :2f2f:

dorkidori_s13
11-30-2007, 04:04 PM
i believe it was said before...a brand new silvia would be MUCH better than buying a 14 year old shit box...i dont care what ne one says lol

as far as problems with new cars...who cares...you buy the damned thing brand new...it comes with a warranty...i know if i bought one it would be my daily driver for a good long while...i think the most i would do to it til its paid off is slap a 3 inch catback on it...some nice wheels...and some nice dampers...outside of that...wouldnt do ne thing

but then again...i drive a 1987 nissan hardbody for a daily...and its beat to shit...so i guess ne thing is better than what i have hahhahaha ;)

IngS14
11-30-2007, 04:06 PM
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/Quikmr2/s16.jpg

qwarnon
11-30-2007, 04:13 PM
it makes sense that they might try the silvia again . considering gas prices.. at the time of the silvia they werent too bad.. now a small rear wheel drive 4 cyl with a turbo could be fun to drive and still get some descent milage

racer98
11-30-2007, 04:32 PM
You don't pay a lot of attention to what's going on in the industry do you. ;)

Eh'hem...

Yea ABOVE Honda and Toyota.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/exitspeed/jdpowerdepend1.jpg




That's not what this thread is about though, so lets stay on topic. :2f2f:




JD Powa - :spank: :jerkit: you know most of the people who test the cars at JD power, get car sick ????? When they drive a car that is not a Buick.

Maserati sent them a car to evaluate and they would not test the car saying it too fast to test :bowrofl: .

Now I see why JD power give's high marks to buick unless its some skeem cooked up by GM that own's JD power.

there are no car people that work at JD power. so if you find that Buick has High quality and are fowlling what Buick does at JD power, might be best to see the video of when GM sent a Buick to the Nur ring for brake testing and the caliper fire that started.:bowrofl: :mepoke:

so if you find your self sporting a buick and you think its a rocking high quality vehicile, bud you really got me confused.

exitspeed
11-30-2007, 05:51 PM
^
Numbers are numbers. It's based on cares sold and the problem with said cars. You don't need to be a car guy to count numbers and come up with stats.

Also Cadillac is rated BEST customer Satisfaction in the entire Auto Industry. Here's another article.

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/02/06/cadillac-rated-best-customer-experience-by-luxury-owners/
"Luxury Institute Survey: Wealthy Consumers Rate Cadillac, Lexus and Acura the Luxury Auto Brands That Deliver the Best Customer Experience in 2007

NEW YORK, NY -- (MARKET WIRE) -- February 05, 2007 -- Luxury automobile owners rated Cadillac a solid first place as the brand that delivers the best customer experience in the 2007 Luxury Customer Experience Index (LCEI) survey of Automobiles from the independent New York-based Luxury Institute (www.LuxuryInstitute.com). Lexus and Acura placed second and third, respectively. "

brndck
11-30-2007, 05:53 PM
lol! theres no effing way that a buick is more reliable than any toyota product! i call serious bullshxt on that list. -end rant
now on topic. i'm glad to see oe's in general are finally coming around and realizing that there is a market for LIGHTWEIGHT fr platforms. if it's a 2010 model, hell, i'll buy one. and then trade it in after 2 years once the nismo versions start being released.

exitspeed
11-30-2007, 05:58 PM
^
Yea it's true man. Lexus was #1 for 11 years. It was a huge shock in the industry.

Taniguchi_Is_#1
11-30-2007, 06:06 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/exitspeed/jdpowerdepend1.jpg



pfff....anyone can make up statistics. 16% of people know that.




seriously, though, i hope a new, affordable nissan FR is released. too bad the altima coupe wasn't rear drive.

lflkajfj12123
11-30-2007, 06:12 PM
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/Quikmr2/s16.jpg

some translation on this article :

The S16 will replace the sr20det with a modified version of the Nissan X-trail's SR20vet .

http://paultan.org/gallery/d/4804-4/x_trail_press_59.jpg

article claims it should retail for 2500000 yen, which is about $20,000 US dollars. 280 horse power (about 220 lb/ft torque) from 1,998 cubic centimeters of displacement.

Kn1ves
11-30-2007, 06:29 PM
that picture is so old.

exitspeed
11-30-2007, 06:31 PM
some translation on this article :

The S16 will replace the sr20det with a modified version of the Nissan X-trail's SR20vet .

http://paultan.org/gallery/d/4804-4/x_trail_press_59.jpg

article claims it should retail for 2500000 yen, which is about $20,000 US dollars. 280 horse power (about 220 lb/ft torque) from 1,998 cubic centimeters of displacement.

that picture is so old.

Yea I think that pic was posted in like the first week Zilvia opened.

dorkidori_s13
11-30-2007, 06:45 PM
some translation on this article :

The S16 will replace the sr20det with a modified version of the Nissan X-trail's SR20vet .


THE SR20 AND SR SERIES ENGINE IS NO LONGER BEING MADE AND IS NO LONGER SMOG OR CARB LEGAL IN JAPAN IN NEW CARS!!!!

just thought i would reitterate my statement a few posts ago

jesus christ...n00bs are so much fun :tweak:


that photoshopped pic is SO OLD!!! i remember it came out in like 2002/2003ish :-/ :-/ :-/

the new silvia is more than likely going to have the MR20 motor (or a japanese variant of such)...the QR25 is built ONLY IN AMERICA AND EXPORTED WITH REBADGED AMERICAN BUILT NISSANS!!!

also it will prolly only be built in japan...nissan does not build its sports cars state side...ALL S chassis...Z chassis and Skyline Chassis were built in japan...PERIOD...and i believe to this day that the Z is still being built soley in japan (someone correct me if im wrong)

i seriously doubt nissan would fuk up the S chassis once again by putting an embarassment of a motor like the QR25 in it...they made a booboo the first time with the KA...i doubt theyll do it again

brndck
11-30-2007, 06:48 PM
"Aw, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. Forfty percent of all people know that." Homer Simpson
I don't care what engine they put into it, as long as its 4 cyl, factory or easily turbo-ed, and NOT direct injection. *(and makes enough powahs so i's dont's get made fun of...s)*

NINJAS14
11-30-2007, 07:20 PM
JD Powa - :spank: :jerkit: you know most of the people who test the cars at JD power, get car sick ????? When they drive a car that is not a Buick.

Maserati sent them a car to evaluate and they would not test the car saying it too fast to test :bowrofl: .

Now I see why JD power give's high marks to buick unless its some skeem cooked up by GM that own's JD power.

there are no car people that work at JD power. so if you find that Buick has High quality and are fowlling what Buick does at JD power, might be best to see the video of when GM sent a Buick to the Nur ring for brake testing and the caliper fire that started.:bowrofl: :mepoke:

so if you find your self sporting a buick and you think its a rocking high quality vehicile, bud you really got me confused.

They are able to make statistics like this because think about how many more car toyota has sold than buick. With the amount of cars taht toyota has sold there are many more cars on the street that can break down. than buick.

exitspeed
11-30-2007, 07:30 PM
They are able to make statistics like this because think about how many more car toyota has sold than buick. With the amount of cars taht toyota has sold there are many more cars on the street that can break down. than buick.

READ. Problem PER 100 VEHICLES SOLD.

I'm not trying to stick up for GM or anything, just trying to educate.

The more I think about it, I think we'll see something more slid NEXT Tokyo Auto Show. It would make a lotta sense.

lflkajfj12123
11-30-2007, 09:28 PM
was just translating that picture

meh

apexhumper
11-30-2007, 10:03 PM
You don't pay a lot of attention to what's going on in the industry do you. ;)

Eh'hem...

Yea ABOVE Honda and Toyota.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/exitspeed/jdpowerdepend1.jpg




That's not what this thread is about though, so lets stay on topic. :2f2f:


Buick only sold 146 cars, pretty shitty numbers lol

You're right about not having to be a "car guy" as long as you stick to numbers you'll be ok.......that's why in the 80's when american car companies relied on the bean counters to dictate how their cars where made and how they looked they turned out such great products.....yeah I see a lot of those cars still on the road, 80's american cars are NOT the laughing stock of the automotive world at all. Most domestic companies still let the money dictate everything(obviously I mean more than most others, to the point that it ruins their product), that's why they cut corners on everything and that's why GM and the rest are doing so well. Also why the Mustang still has solid read axels, the Durango needs a new tranny after around 80k miles, the Explorers are having a hard time keeping their front suspensions on and all new domestics are doing so well like the Pontiac G6, the Ford 500 and Fusion, all Chevys (except the Automatic Corvette), all of Mercury, Buick etc etc.......

Do we all remember that it was Ford's engineering genius that welded the gas tank of the Pinto to the rear bumper making it a damn bomb whenever they were rearended? Also who could forget the great NOVA flop in Mexico (for those who dont know No Va in Spanish means it "doesn't go" but since Cheap Ass domestic companies dont like spending money they didnt research and lost a bundle. Same reason domestics cant export cars to any good markets.....no one wants shitty cars.

Sorry for any bad spelling, run on sentences and tangents......I get worked up talking about domestic car companies....during the LA Auto show (during all the debuts before the public was allowed in) I watched Good 'ol Bob (Lutz) stand in front of media, designers, industry leaders and LIE about how "GM has always cared and put the well being of the environment ahead of anything else" that's why they dragged their asses and now that they realize it's the next SUV craze they're coming out with something like 6 Hybrids......its also why in the 80's (a great time for American cars) GM had a TEAM of lawyers go to court and deny that auto emissions were bad for the environment because science at that point wasnt able to absolutely prove that.....I've never been closer to yelling BULLS**t in public before *sigh* I hate american car companies with a passion- End of rant.

Kn1ves
11-30-2007, 10:14 PM
Buick only sold 146 cars, pretty shitty numbers lol

wow you're an idiot... here since you can't read graphs. I'll say it with words.

For every 100 cars that Buick sold. There was 145 problems.

Thats either 1.45 problems per vehicle. Chances are you're going to have 1 or 2 things go wrong in your car. More likely 1 thing go wrong than 2 things. Now compare that to Nissan's 274 problems per 100 cars. thats 2.74 problems per vehicle.. so when you buy something from Nissan there is a possibility of a car having 2 to 3 problems. And even worse, Land Rover, there is a possibility, that you'll have four problems.

SimpleS14
11-30-2007, 10:36 PM
MR is a I4. Maybe a MR20DET??? I'd be happy with a real low curb weight (by todays standards) 2900lbs-3100lbs and 240hp.


That motor is currently in the Renault Megane Sport. I always wondered why it never made it to the Sentra SE-R

2ilvia
11-30-2007, 10:49 PM
looks like an 07 sti coupe
WTF???? no such thing..

who knows, the midnortheast has a kabunch of subies, maybe it was a group buy?

anyway the car looks good as a car

looks terrible as a silvia

Koopa Troopa
11-30-2007, 11:12 PM
Eh, in 2010 I'll still be driving my 1993 S14 and complaining about how ugly these new car models are... I'm not excited about a new Silvia.. Why? Because they'll ruin it.

apexhumper
11-30-2007, 11:22 PM
wow you're an idiot... here since you can't read graphs. I'll say it with words.

For every 100 cars that Buick sold. There was 145 problems.

Thats either 1.45 problems per vehicle. Chances are you're going to have 1 or 2 things go wrong in your car. More likely 1 thing go wrong than 2 things. Now compare that to Nissan's 274 problems per 100 cars. thats 2.74 problems per vehicle.. so when you buy something from Nissan there is a possibility of a car having 2 to 3 problems. And even worse, Land Rover, there is a possibility, that you'll have four problems.


Wow you're a jackass, 1st of all on my post I had put "146" cars, which means that I was saying Buick had issues with all but one car, second IT WAS A JOKE, I thought my post wouldve been soaked in enough sarcasm that you wouldve gotten that but I guess it was over your head, next time I'll keep the remedial like yourself in mind.

racer98
11-30-2007, 11:28 PM
wow you're an idiot... here since you can't read graphs. I'll say it with words.

For every 100 cars that Buick sold. There was 145 problems.

Thats either 1.45 problems per vehicle. Chances are you're going to have 1 or 2 things go wrong in your car. More likely 1 thing go wrong than 2 things. Now compare that to Nissan's 274 problems per 100 cars. thats 2.74 problems per vehicle.. so when you buy something from Nissan there is a possibility of a car having 2 to 3 problems. And even worse, Land Rover, there is a possibility, that you'll have four problems.

HOW SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO RIGHT YOU ARE,

GM where people smoke waki tabaki and more worries about having the engineers dress up as trasvetites and figure what its like for women to drive their product, :keke:


put it to you this way if you want your chick to warp your mind you dont buy her any thing GM, if you do you might just be able to get a kiss on the cheek and lucky enough to sleep in the dog house in the back yard.
:eek:

racer98
11-30-2007, 11:40 PM
Wow you're a jackass, 1st of all on my post I had put "146" cars, which means that I was saying Buick had issues with all but one car, second IT WAS A JOKE, I thought my post wouldve been soaked in enough sarcasm that you wouldve gotten that but I guess it was over your head, next time I'll keep the remedial like yourself in mind.

Dude, chill man GM makes garbage and the damage is terminal and they are not coming back, have you honestly physically stripped a GM Vehicle down to the frame and the same for Toyota??????

there is an insane amount of quality difference, again you have GM the just thru a way $1 mother Fooken Billion Dollars on he Pontiac GTO and results = garbage. again GM is an Over bloated Pig with shitty mentality. If you talk with the Engineers from Opel "GERMANY" its some really funny crap they chat about the us execs.

Telling a GERMAN not to engineer a car properly is really sacrilegious. this is why all of the Engineers who come out of school in Germany go and Work for GM/Opel/Vaxhaul and fuck up as much as possible and then go over to BMW & MBZ and so on.


Let me say this, find GM product such as a BUICK and equal car that matches up to a Nissan / Infinity product and just do a 30 day shake down on the Nur-burg Ring and let's see what car is left standing at the end of that shake down.

My money is on the Nissan Product - because you have people at Nissan who give a crap and then you have people at GM who don’t give a shit and that is the case = don’t give a shit = garbage car. Build a car and give a care about it, you have a product that make's BMW / Porsche / MBZ Nervous and the engineers cant sleep at night, where as GM is worried about adding a pepper and salt shaker to the ash tray for a GM product.

but that is where im at with it.

The only thig that GM build with a reasonable quality is the Truck line up and that's it.

racer98
11-30-2007, 11:44 PM
too bad the altima coupe wasn't rear drive.



Look at the Murano rear sub frame that is AWD.

and look at the altima Coupe


the gas tank will need to be re-modded to go some where eles but

V6 AWD Altima Coupe.:loco:

Kn1ves
11-30-2007, 11:51 PM
Wow you're a jackass, 1st of all on my post I had put "146" cars, which means that I was saying Buick had issues with all but one car, second IT WAS A JOKE, I thought my post wouldve been soaked in enough sarcasm that you wouldve gotten that but I guess it was over your head, next time I'll keep the remedial like yourself in mind.

OIC. so youre whole psychotic rant was sarcasm.

:loco:

flclsteve
12-01-2007, 01:41 AM
I think it looks cool but we'll seen in two years

brndck
12-01-2007, 03:04 AM
know whats even funnier? is when people start asking Koopa how he got a 93 s14.

exitspeed
12-01-2007, 08:01 AM
Seriously guys, let it be. Let's keep this thread on track.

We're talking about the new Silvia/SX...

As long as it looks good (I'd be happy with SOME of the Urge styling), performs well, and is priced right, I think I'll get one. It's either this or a C5 Vette.

Koopa Troopa
12-02-2007, 12:42 PM
know whats even funnier? is when people start asking Koopa how he got a 93 s14.


:rofl:

I need to remove my location out of my profile......

chris300zr
12-02-2007, 01:28 PM
THE SR20 AND SR SERIES ENGINE IS NO LONGER BEING MADE AND IS NO LONGER SMOG OR CARB LEGAL IN JAPAN IN NEW CARS!!!!

just thought i would reitterate my statement a few posts ago

jesus christ...n00bs are so much fun :tweak:


that photoshopped pic is SO OLD!!! i remember it came out in like 2002/2003ish :-/ :-/ :-/

the new silvia is more than likely going to have the MR20 motor (or a japanese variant of such)...the QR25 is built ONLY IN AMERICA AND EXPORTED WITH REBADGED AMERICAN BUILT NISSANS!!!

also it will prolly only be built in japan...nissan does not build its sports cars state side...ALL S chassis...Z chassis and Skyline Chassis were built in japan...PERIOD...and i believe to this day that the Z is still being built soley in japan (someone correct me if im wrong)

i seriously doubt nissan would fuk up the S chassis once again by putting an embarassment of a motor like the QR25 in it...they made a booboo the first time with the KA...i doubt theyll do it again

Incorrect. It seems that the SR20DE is still being produced, albeit for Samsung motors:
http://www.sr20forum.com/general-sr20/217341-sr20-engines-didnt-die-all.html

dorkidori_s13
12-02-2007, 02:07 PM
Incorrect. It seems that the SR20DE is still being produced, albeit for Samsung motors:
http://www.sr20forum.com/general-sr20/217341-sr20-engines-didnt-die-all.html


may still exist in that car...but its not a nissan

the SR20 is retired in all nissan and infiniti brand cars

lazierhobo
12-02-2007, 03:18 PM
buicks dont break down cause they never get driven, old people buy them, then park them in their garage and drive like 10 miles a week. im pretty sure that sort of treatment will increase the reliability of any car

racer98
12-02-2007, 03:21 PM
Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13
THE SR20 AND SR SERIES ENGINE IS NO LONGER BEING MADE AND IS NO LONGER SMOG OR CARB LEGAL IN JAPAN IN NEW CARS!!!!


you're kidding right ?

SMOG ?

CARB ? Japan ?


Do you have any idea about Ministry of Transportation ?

and SHAKEN ? :rawk:

:mepoke: :bowrofl:

racer98
12-02-2007, 03:34 PM
buicks dont break down cause they never get driven, old people buy them, then park them in their garage and drive like 10 miles a week. im pretty sure that sort of treatment will increase the reliability of any car

Yup and in most cases are most likley to be in the 6pm News with an eldelry driver who stomped on the gas thinking it was the brake pedal and makes a drive thru of the local bank or Quicky mart........



oh ya , BUicks rock


please note next time when you want to buy a GM & Ford Product and see the shoddy quality and the % of parts that are attached on the car that are made by a non US-parts supplier. pay special attention to detail with regards to the spot / tac wields as well you should get a kick out of it.

where as Nissan & Toyota and most of the Japanese mfg have move the most of the product operation's into the USA and have creted job's in areas where there has not been any growth since post war / cold war job's era in the areas where Car makers have opend up shop and producing cars.


Let me say this GM Is a Fucked up company Foaming at the mouth / drooling to lay off all workers in the USA and start making cars in China and sell them in the USA thru wall mart - so GM ":mephfawk: "


Ford will eventually get bought out by BMW AG :ugh:

IF GM And Ford gave a crap they would not be in the situation.

smelly240
12-02-2007, 05:58 PM
wow - so CARB has started enforcing itself on japan now :P

right.

racer98
12-02-2007, 06:57 PM
wow - so CARB has started enforcing itself on japan now :P

right.



cool so if I was driving my LHD Civic in japan with the mad tight vtak and if the KOBAN see me rolln with my fart can will they give me a ticket ? :barf:

dorkidori_s13
12-02-2007, 08:54 PM
ok...whatever japans emissions laws are...they no longer allow the SR or RB series engine to be manufactured in NEW cars...i just put it in terms that could be understood...and those laws are one huge reason behind nissan retiring those motors...that and they were dated by the technologies that have gone into the VQ/MR engines


but before you make fun of me about it...i know for a fact that japans emission rules are alot more stringent than americas

drift freaq
12-02-2007, 11:57 PM
ok...whatever japans emissions laws are...they no longer allow the SR or RB series engine to be manufactured in NEW cars...i just put it in terms that could be understood...and those laws are one huge reason behind nissan retiring those motors...that and they were dated by the technologies that have gone into the VQ/MR engines


but before you make fun of me about it...i know for a fact that japans emission rules are alot more stringent than americas

stringent but different. Also California emission rules are right up there with Japan. In fact its way the current adminstration and the EPA are fighting California emission laws due to lobbying by the major car makers. I know this will bring out all the forum members from out of state saying fuck California emissions. Well I hope you all go and choke on the stuff coming out of your exhuast pipe. Like it or not emissions and air quality is a big issue we cannot hide from. The current engines coming out of Japan are much cleaner burning than SR's or RB's ever where.
A lot of them already comply with California emission standards as well.

U.S. automakers are the biggest whiners about emissions this side of the sun.

racer98
12-03-2007, 12:00 AM
ok...whatever japans emissions laws are...they no longer allow the SR or RB series engine to be manufactured in NEW cars...i just put it in terms that could be understood...and those laws are one huge reason behind nissan retiring those motors...that and they were dated by the technologies that have gone into the VQ/MR engines


but before you make fun of me about it...i know for a fact that japans emission rules are alot more stringent than americas

how so ?

break it down for us tards ! :squintd:

racer98
12-03-2007, 12:04 AM
stringent but different. Also California emission rules are right up there with Japan. In fact its way the current adminstration and the EPA are fighting California emission laws due to lobbying by the major car makers. I know this will bring out all the forum members from out of state saying fuck California emissions. Well I hope you all go and choke on the stuff coming out of your exhuast pipe. Like it or not emissions and air quality is a big issue we cannot hide from. The current engines coming out of Japan are much cleaner burning than SR's or RB's ever where.
A lot of them already comply with California emission standards as well.

U.S. automakers are the biggest whiners about emissions this side of the sun.

soo true but seems really intresing what Japan is doing about Emission's for Diesel vehiciles in japan - the biggest up hill issue is the Heavy commercial vehiciles in japan. note not to many Diesel powered vehiciles. By the means of Light passenger vehiciles. Yes and no doubt stream line production engines that can be used in US market's makes a lot more sence and more cost effective.

LA_phantom_240
12-03-2007, 12:06 AM
I don't care about emissions. Catalytic converters are for pussies.

RedStage
12-03-2007, 12:12 AM
they can't bring back the sylvia. never was made

Can't tell you how much the misspelling of Silvia drives me nuts....

CKAMC
12-03-2007, 12:20 AM
http://news.windingroad.com/countriesmarkets/euro/report-renault-to-breath-new-life-into-alpine/

if renault does it, makes it easier for nissan to knock it off.

RedStage
12-03-2007, 12:24 AM
and those laws are one huge reason behind nissan retiring those motors...that and they were dated by the technologies that have gone into the VQ/MR engines


Actually it had a lot more to do with money. The fact that Nissan was going under (remember the guys at Renault bailing Nissan out? That was a pretty big piece of news).

They had far too many engine platforms, far too many parts suppliers and far too many vehicle platforms (this is also the reason why the S-Chasis was retired).

Nissan consolidated it's production and support efforts inorder to restructure more efficiently so that it could continue to function as a company. Retiring the SR and RB series had little (if anything) to do with emissions regulations.

Also, just my $0.02....If Nissan does bring back the Silvia...it damn well better be a Nissan and not some other companies car rebadged.

dorkidori_s13
12-03-2007, 09:18 AM
Actually it had a lot more to do with money. The fact that Nissan was going under (remember the guys at Renault bailing Nissan out? That was a pretty big piece of news).

They had far too many engine platforms, far too many parts suppliers and far too many vehicle platforms (this is also the reason why the S-Chasis was retired).

Nissan consolidated it's production and support efforts inorder to restructure more efficiently so that it could continue to function as a company. Retiring the SR and RB series had little (if anything) to do with emissions regulations.

Also, just my $0.02....If Nissan does bring back the Silvia...it damn well better be a Nissan and not some other companies car rebadged.


i think were both right mr redstage...i was diggin around on the net this morning and popped up with a few quotes of such here

(quoted from Auto Speed Magazine in 2004) "In the last couple of years, Nissan has been forced to abandon its established SR, RB and VG-family of four to six-cylinder engines. This has been necessary to meet tougher emission standards in japan and foreign markets."

(quoted from japan importing...a business run by a friend of mine over in the UK who imports cars directly out of Japan into the UK) "Due to concerns of an over-populated, smog-infested country, Japan has integrated strict emissions laws, regular taxes, a Parking Space (an annual tax fee in and of itself) and a mandatory inspection fee. These laws heavily affect older turbo cars such as the Nissan Skyline series (including the GTR), Nissan Silvia series, Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution series and the Subaru Line of automobiles..."

dont think that just cause japan is loaded with turbo cars that their emissions testing isnt just as harsh, or even worse than ours...from what ive read and been told...theyre even worse over there than california is now about emissions and emissions testing


but ne who...on with the rumor mill that is the 2010 silvia

Citystars
12-17-2007, 05:11 PM
Finally.. what happened to all the sports cars (http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread.php?s=&threadid=199071&perpage=40&highlight=&pagenumber=2#) in the world??

That thing looks sick. But we will see when it comes down to it


his new Nissan FR Sports Car is expected to receive a 250ps ‘MR20VHRT’ 2.0L 4 cylinder engine with Nissan’s new VVEL technology and a turbocharger
nice!! im glad! sticking to the routes of the s chasis, 4cyl turbo. unlike the new gtr (v8 i believe?)
They better make a lot of extra motors mr20vhrt swapped s13 and s14s everywhere : D. sr20 is outdated.. muahaha. I hope they do a type 1, 2 and 3 like they did with the previous versions. silvia K's BITCHES OEM style FTW!


Bump this thread. I am buying one of these cars when they come out!!! NO matter what.. haha

dorkidori_s13
12-17-2007, 05:25 PM
wow...havent seen this topic for a few weeks o.O

ericcastro
12-17-2007, 06:51 PM
You think you could do a S15 front end conversion to it??? :) lol

the front headlights and grill bother me. The rest makes sense. modern styling and all. could be exciting. I might actually be adult enough to buy a new car around that time. and that would be a great price range. With the 350z, then that car, both affordable, It would be like the original Z car taking over!!

exitspeed
12-18-2007, 07:54 AM
unlike the new gtr (v8 i believe?)
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Wow, really? You need to do some reading man. Start here. (http://www.zilvia.net/f//showthread.php?t=160786)

You think you could do a S15 front end conversion to it??? :) lol


Lol :hahano:

racer98
12-18-2007, 09:28 AM
Wow, really? You need to do some reading man. Start here. (http://www.zilvia.net/f//showthread.php?t=160786)



Lol :hahano:


OH ,Canada :aw:

tougeracer
12-18-2007, 09:48 AM
If bushido worked for nissan, and they greenlighted his idea on the first page. I'd buy it, if I looks like the first post, NO WAY. also. a simple google search revealed this beauty. http://cars.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=59970&font_size=-1 :naughtyd:

Citystars
12-18-2007, 10:17 AM
OH ,Canada :aw:

Well.. SORRY guys. Its kind of hard up here, you know, with the 25 hour clock and all.

BTW I have never even clicked on any threads for the new GTR. Wouldnt waste my time(would rather gut fish for dinner):fawkd:

exitspeed
12-18-2007, 10:31 AM
If bushido worked for nissan, and they greenlighted his idea on the first page. I'd buy it, if I looks like the first post, NO WAY. also. a simple google search revealed this beauty. http://cars.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=59970&font_size=-1 :naughtyd:

That pic has been posted on here more times the I can count. I posted it like literally 3 years ago.

The most accurate rendering so far has been taken down unfortunately.

I keep saying this over and over and I'll keep on saying it. THE NEW SILVIA/SX WILL TAKE STYLING CUES FROM THE URGE CONCEPT.

MrD
12-18-2007, 11:39 AM
But the Urge was butt ugly!!
The Foria was so much nicer!

exitspeed
12-18-2007, 12:49 PM
But the Urge was butt ugly!!
The Foria was so much nicer!

It was...odd. But the rendering that was done made it look like a really nice production car. Flares. :naughty:

axiomatik
12-18-2007, 01:31 PM
Yup and in most cases are most likley to be in the 6pm News with an eldelry driver who stomped on the gas thinking it was the brake pedal and makes a drive thru of the local bank or Quicky mart........



oh ya , BUicks rock


please note next time when you want to buy a GM & Ford Product and see the shoddy quality and the % of parts that are attached on the car that are made by a non US-parts supplier. pay special attention to detail with regards to the spot / tac wields as well you should get a kick out of it.

where as Nissan & Toyota and most of the Japanese mfg have move the most of the product operation's into the USA and have creted job's in areas where there has not been any growth since post war / cold war job's era in the areas where Car makers have opend up shop and producing cars.


Let me say this GM Is a Fucked up company Foaming at the mouth / drooling to lay off all workers in the USA and start making cars in China and sell them in the USA thru wall mart - so GM ":mephfawk: "


Ford will eventually get bought out by BMW AG :ugh:

IF GM And Ford gave a crap they would not be in the situation.

god, there is so much ignorance spewing out of your posts I don't even know where to begin. exactly how much experience do you have with modern buicks? how qualified are you to determine that they have poor quality? you have been brainwashed into believing that everything that comes out of germany or japan is perfect, and everything american is garbage. guess what? nissan doesn't have the greatest quality. never has. volkswagens have all sorts of problems. but they are designed by german engineers! omg! how could that happen? toyota fj cruisers have problems with their chassis' tearing in the engine bay. The new tundra has problems.

yes, domestic manufacturers had serious quality issues in the 80's and early 90's, but they are light-years past those days. my '97 for expedition is the most reliable vehicle I have ever experienced. I've owned it since it had 108k on the odo, and it's now over 150k, and I have not had a single problem with it. my father-in-law owned it before me (he bought it new), and never had to do anything besides regular maintenance. meanwhile, my 240 has had more problems than I care to remember.

btw, I've got relatives who are engineers for Ford and GM, thanks for insulting them by generalizing that all american engineers don't care. the quality of modern ford and gm vehicles are on par with japanese cars (chrysler still has some catching up to do).

ontopic: nissan better bring out a inexpensive rwd platform or they will be left in the dust. the new sentras are seriously lame.

exitspeed
12-18-2007, 01:43 PM
god, there is so much ignorance spewing out of your posts I don't even know where to begin.

It's hopeless. I just moved on.

Brainwashed kids.

SimpleSexy180
12-18-2007, 01:52 PM
yes, domestic manufacturers had serious quality issues in the 80's and early 90's, but they are light-years past those days. my '97 for expedition is the most reliable vehicle I have ever experienced. I've owned it since it had 108k on the odo, and it's now over 150k, and I have not had a single problem with it.

lol wtf? 108 to 150k? i can do that in half a year.

exitspeed
12-26-2007, 07:39 AM
Another new rendering from a Japan Mag. Looks ugly as hell. Like a SLK. Which is not a good thing. Can anyone translate what it says?

http://response.jp/issue/2007/1221/article103532_1.images/166778.jpg

gunluvS14
12-26-2007, 09:15 AM
I see a S2000 from the back

dorkidori_s13
12-26-2007, 09:25 AM
Another new rendering from a Japan Mag. Looks ugly as hell. Like a SLK. Which is not a good thing. Can anyone translate what it says?


the base image for this car was the azeal concept and the new nissan sentra

you can see it in the body lines (fender lips, door, drivers side rear view mirror)...even the wheels are the same

lol...gotta love photoshop ;)

the car is being built on the FM platform...so expect something that looks very similar to the Z/G35

exitspeed
12-26-2007, 09:34 AM
I hate all these fender vents.

Full-Lock
12-26-2007, 09:45 AM
a new silvia will never be as cool as the s13, s14, and s15
the silvia is dead to me

a new one will will just look dumb.
there is no way around it

dorkidori_s13
12-26-2007, 10:17 AM
a new silvia will never be as cool as the s13, s14, and s15
the silvia is dead to me

a new one will will just look dumb.
there is no way around it


lol...who gives a shit how it looks...looks can always be fixed...and u cant tell me that a FM chassis doesnt look DAMN good with the right kit and wheels...besides...have you ever had the PLEASURE of driving a 350z or G35??? like seriously get on it and beat it up a bit...i will say this...if infact a new silvia is coming out based on the FM chassis...itll be one HELL of a car...the FM chassis is one of the most solid cars ive ever driven

RedStage
12-26-2007, 06:33 PM
I just want the damn thing to come out so the price of S15's will drop......

racer98
12-26-2007, 06:37 PM
I just want the damn thing to come out so the price of S15's will drop......

:aw: :ugh: ........

racer98
12-26-2007, 06:44 PM
lol...who gives a shit how it looks...looks can always be fixed...and u cant tell me that a FM chassis doesnt look DAMN good with the right kit and wheels...besides...have you ever had the PLEASURE of driving a 350z or G35??? like seriously get on it and beat it up a bit...i will say this...if infact a new silvia is coming out based on the FM chassis...itll be one HELL of a car...the FM chassis is one of the most solid cars ive ever driven

um. chill you have a point and also others do so take it down a notch, btw yes I have drivin a 350z and many times and even had too much fun to the point of catching the brakes on fire. That how you roll when you go on a lot of canyon runs with P-car/ Ferrari and Lambo owners. Left a lot of people impress with the ability of the 350z and not only YOUR"RE drift type of people. Be that as it is, yah some might not like the design of the car but it might grow on you mabey not, there are a ton of other cars out there that people cna buy its really up to each person to decide what they like. Now lets hope this car will not turn into the civic. god damm ricers.

dorkidori_s13
12-26-2007, 07:45 PM
um. chill you have a point and also others do so take it down a notch, btw yes I have drivin a 350z and many times and even had too much fun to the point of catching the brakes on fire. That how you roll when you go on a lot of canyon runs with P-car/ Ferrari and Lambo owners. Left a lot of people impress with the ability of the 350z and not only YOUR"RE drift type of people. Be that as it is, yah some might not like the design of the car but it might grow on you mabey not, there are a ton of other cars out there that people cna buy its really up to each person to decide what they like. Now lets hope this car will not turn into the civic. god damm ricers.


wasnt snappin at ne one =(

just pointin out that looks dont make the car...they HELP make the car...but a 4 cyl rwd turbo car that looks similar to a Z or G...thats yummy =D

number80
07-03-2008, 07:34 PM
Even the new Altima coupe looks hotter and more like the Z and G's. LOL.

Just bring a U.S. version of an updated S15 and call it a day. That car reminds me of hello kitty stuff my little nieces adores.

number80
07-03-2008, 07:41 PM
Sh!t....talk about bringing a old post from the dead. Didn't even see the date just did a search LOL.

rb25crazy
07-03-2008, 07:42 PM
am i the only one that doesnt like the altima, maxima, senta? they all look hideous.... and well boring. 2010 silvia like that? QQ and fail :fawk2::fawk2::fawk2:

s14kouki44
07-03-2008, 07:50 PM
that concept became the altima coupe. nissan ditched the RWD last minute for FWD and made the altima coupe. they were probably thinking that this car has no cosmetic similarities with the old silvia's. it looks kinda whimpy compared to the s14/s15 which had VERY aggressive styling since 1997 so they probably wanted to make it as perfect and in touch with the silvia's of yesteryear because they know s-chassis enthusiasts will eat this car up if and when it does come out and im sure nissan doesn't want to let any of us down. plus with the new Hyundai genesis concept set to be released next year, they wanted a car to be able to take on one of those...with that in mind we might see different engines...i.e. 4cyl-turbo, 6cyl?, 8cyl??? personally, i cant fucking wait and i WILL be the original owner of one

Matej
07-03-2008, 08:48 PM
Instead of a Silvia, they should make a successor to the 180SX. :)

rb25crazy
07-03-2008, 09:31 PM
i totally agree with you i got a kouki 97 and i simply adore it. beautiful car supercar status looks when dropped and put on phat wheels. a revamped s14 or s15 would be awesome :bow:

that concept became the altima coupe. nissan ditched the RWD last minute for FWD and made the altima coupe. they were probably thinking that this car has no cosmetic similarities with the old silvia's. it looks kinda whimpy compared to the s14/s15 which had VERY aggressive styling since 1997 so they probably wanted to make it as perfect and in touch with the silvia's of yesteryear because they know s-chassis enthusiasts will eat this car up if and when it does come out and im sure nissan doesn't want to let any of us down. plus with the new Hyundai genesis concept set to be released next year, they wanted a car to be able to take on one of those...with that in mind we might see different engines...i.e. 4cyl-turbo, 6cyl?, 8cyl??? personally, i cant fucking wait and i WILL be the original owner of one

.jrmyrmx
07-03-2008, 10:04 PM
surprised these pics havent been posted yet. the first one is suppose to be an image leaked from nissan:

http://www.7tune.com/newtune/justin/2010_nissan_fr_sports_coupe/2010_nissan_fr_sports_coupe5.jpg

http://www.7tune.com/newtune/justin/2010_nissan_fr_sports_coupe/2010_nissan_fr_sports_coupe1.jpg

http://www.7tune.com/newtune/justin/2010_nissan_fr_sports_coupe/2010_nissan_fr_sports_coupe2.jpg

http://www.7tune.com/newtune/justin/2010_nissan_fr_sports_coupe/2010_nissan_fr_sports_coupe3.jpg

http://www.7tune.com/2010-nissan-fr-sports-coupe/

racer98
07-03-2008, 10:10 PM
Its not the final car........................


+ there is a lot more R&D stuff in the works !




still nice progress though............

I hope Nissan really prices it extreamly competitive to some recient compitition from a couple of RWD variations offerd from a couple different makers.....................

racer98
07-03-2008, 10:11 PM
surprised these pics havent been posted yet. the first one is suppose to be an image leaked from nissan:

http://www.7tune.com/newtune/justin/2010_nissan_fr_sports_coupe/2010_nissan_fr_sports_coupe5.jpg

http://www.7tune.com/newtune/justin/2010_nissan_fr_sports_coupe/2010_nissan_fr_sports_coupe1.jpg

http://www.7tune.com/newtune/justin/2010_nissan_fr_sports_coupe/2010_nissan_fr_sports_coupe2.jpg

http://www.7tune.com/newtune/justin/2010_nissan_fr_sports_coupe/2010_nissan_fr_sports_coupe3.jpg

http://www.7tune.com/2010-nissan-fr-sports-coupe/


um that is about 6 months old...................:jerkit:

holybushoffire
07-03-2008, 10:14 PM
Old or not I really really hope they change the rear end. It looks like a Tiburon... =\

racer98
07-03-2008, 10:16 PM
Old or not I really really hope they change the rear end. It looks like a Tiburon... =

Yeah, I would have to agree with that + No matter what some of the Korean car makers come out with my impression is = meh ......................




My god man the new stuff comming out from Nissan is nice !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:bowdown:

Future240
07-03-2008, 10:18 PM
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=127041 already a thread about all that

racer98
07-03-2008, 10:21 PM
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=127041 already a thread about all that

Thanks man,




I didn't know Grand Junction, Colorado is now the JDM hub of the world .

wangan_cruiser
07-03-2008, 10:26 PM
I think it looks like a Altima/Maxima RWD :(

it does look like a refined new to me.LOL

silverkouki
07-05-2008, 06:40 PM
surprised these pics havent been posted yet. the first one is suppose to be an image leaked from nissan:

http://www.7tune.com/newtune/justin/2010_nissan_fr_sports_coupe/2010_nissan_fr_sports_coupe5.jpg

http://www.7tune.com/newtune/justin/2010_nissan_fr_sports_coupe/2010_nissan_fr_sports_coupe1.jpg

http://www.7tune.com/newtune/justin/2010_nissan_fr_sports_coupe/2010_nissan_fr_sports_coupe2.jpg

http://www.7tune.com/newtune/justin/2010_nissan_fr_sports_coupe/2010_nissan_fr_sports_coupe3.jpg

http://www.7tune.com/2010-nissan-fr-sports-coupe/

the front looks reeallllly nice....
im sorry but the rear/side looks like an old Tiburon :down:, i hope they dont keep it; they definitely need to change it

SimpleS14
07-05-2008, 07:00 PM
This thread needs to be closed. Not only because its an OLD bumped thread, but also because there is an active thread on such car in OT.

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=127041

slidingsky
07-05-2008, 10:01 PM
Neg rep for me because this thread has evolved into the 2010 240sx thread and I am again bringing it up to say that it is being talked about in another thread.

jmd8590
07-05-2008, 10:23 PM
if they made the nose more squarish and it would look fine

dorkidori_s13
07-06-2008, 12:13 AM
if they made the nose more squarish and it would look fine


do u realize the above pictures are FAKE!!! :tweak:

dorkidori_s13
07-06-2008, 12:18 AM
LET ME MAKE ONE THING VERY CLEAR!!! (BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY 240 NOOB OUT THERE DOESNT GET THIS)

THESE IMAGES ARE FAKED!!! THEY ARE BUILT USING PHOTOSHOP BY A CAR MAGAZINE CALLED BEST CAR IN JAPAN!!!

http://www.7tune.com/newtune/justin/2010_nissan_fr_sports_coupe/2010_nissan_fr_sports_coupe1.jpg

http://www.7tune.com/newtune/justin/2010_nissan_fr_sports_coupe/2010_nissan_fr_sports_coupe2.jpg


another example of a faked image...

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/4426/newsilviawt6.jpg

ITS SO REAL!!! NO WAIT...LENNON GOT BORED AND MADE IT IN PHOTOSHOP!!! (WITH THE HELP OF A 350Z KIT FROM ORIGIN) :tweak:

Slammed180
07-06-2008, 12:38 AM
^^ NO WAY!! that's what the new 240 is gonna be??? :Ownedd:
haha, you can clearly see they're fake. Good thing too, because they look hideous. Especially the ass end shot, looks like a frickin Tiburon

dorkidori_s13
07-06-2008, 01:01 AM
haha, you can clearly see they're fake. Good thing too, because they look hideous. Especially the ass end shot, looks like a frickin Tiburon


i think the contrary...if nissan brought out the above...id be out TOMORROW buying one

Slammed180
07-06-2008, 01:13 AM
Granted, the front end lines are pretty aggressive, and look not too bad. But like I said before the rear end needs to be redrawn. But that's not even the car, so no need for me to argue about body lines, lol.

xelitex
07-06-2008, 01:14 AM
shits gey...keep it O.G.

dorkidori_s13
07-06-2008, 01:18 AM
shits gey...keep it O.G.


ok...now i agree with SimpleS14...this thread needs to be locked because of comments like the above

there is already a VERY lenghty and detailed thread with important and EDUCATED input on this subject already (especially about why it cant and will not look "O.G." as so stated above)

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=127041&page=18 (i jumped it ahead to where it started getting pretty deep with detail since i know most of you have very short attention spans)

trsilvias13
07-06-2008, 02:25 AM
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=10&article_id=6890

anyone seen that?

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/2008/W24/612200817411.jpg

phi_ho1
07-06-2008, 02:32 AM
look like the maxima coupe

adrenalinejunkie47
07-06-2008, 11:00 AM
There is definitely a Nissan FR that slots in below the 350Z in the works. Nissan has been hinting at this with the Urge and Foria concepts.
Mazda and Toyota also have one in development too, and Hyundai is bringing their new Genesis to market next year. The compact FR market is about to have a serious resurgence, exciting times.

Shortened 350Z's have been caught testing at the Nurburgring, and it is said that under the modified Z's sheet metal, lies a shortened version of the FM.

I've been working on a few renderings of my own over the past couple years on that I think the "S16" should look like, this is a very rough and unfinished one I did recently:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/domeniccucunato/car%20pics/photoshops/silbeer16.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/domeniccucunato/car%20pics/photoshops/1.jpg

-Shortened 350Z FM platform

-Base engine VQ25DE

-Spec-R model with VQ30DET

-least amount of options possible to keep the price attainable for the average person. the focus of this car should be to be a "drivers" car... No heated leather 16-way electric adjustable seats, no auto dimming rear view mirror, no unnecessary options that would complicate things and add to the price.

-target price of $19,900 for base model and around 26,000 for the top model.


On your pic, from the A pillar back it looks kinda celica ish...

norbac
07-06-2008, 11:12 AM
i like those wheels

adrenalinejunkie47
07-06-2008, 11:18 AM
looks like a db9 had its way with the new gtr and the kid came out with a 4 banger...

i love it.

Yeah I agree. Aston Martin GT-R. Im trying to decide whether I like it or not though.

lolatclint
07-06-2008, 11:43 AM
hmmmmmmmmmmmm yuck.

dorkidori_s13
07-06-2008, 12:09 PM
On your pic, from the A pillar back it looks kinda celica ish...

do some hunting around before making comments...that car is actually the Renault Laguna

this thread is getting really :ghey:

exitspeed
07-06-2008, 12:20 PM
Thread closed. There's an official future Silvia thread where we've been discussing this car in great lengths.

Here (http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=127041)is the thread.