I hate 240s....

[razmus]

Not really i do love them..but here's the story why i hate them today...

Well i drifted my first 240 today and let me say.....shits crazy. I drive/drift an FC3S and i have been drifting for about a year. Im at the point where i know my car and i can control it. So in other words i know what im doing.

Today my co-worker drove his friends S14 to work and he let me drive it. of course i beat the shit out of it in the parking lot and was amazed how easy it was to get sideways and keep it sideways. Its got an SR and some bolt ons (FMIC, LSD, BOV,radiator, driveshaft and other little shit) surprisingly, it has the stock suspension which i thought would be a barrier to getting it and keeping it sideways, but it wasnt lol

I always thought that because i had a hard time trying to keep my FC sideways, all the 240 drivers had trouble as well. Well...i guess im worng lol. Im not saying that all 240 drivers are talent-less and it doesnt take much to drift them. Im just saying that im so surpsised on how the car was designed. I now see why so many people go with them...besides the fact that they are cheap and look really good lol.

I was talking to some people that own RX7s and they say that if you can drift an RX7 you can easily drift other cars due to the fucked up almost 50/50 balance of the car. Ive also heard this about miatas as well.

Has anyone else started drifting other cars then went with 240s? im just curious to see what platforms some people have started with.


oh this is my first post as well....dont hate :D

[k's_silvia2.0]

HAHA rotarys suck.Thats why you liked the 240.:keke:

[Dousan_PG]

ive drifted 240 and drifted other cars
as long as they rae set up semi-decently its easy to drift

i drifted my friends FC
henry shelly (PINK FC, WRONG WAY)
it was siiiick

i want that FC feel
i love how it feels
drifted some other cars here and there, z33, ae86, s13, s14, etc etc etc

not bad

[!Zar!]

I've drifted many cars. My fc tII was easy as hell as long as you have the dtss bushings. But it handled SO much better than a 240 ever could.

But wait.

Why are we talking about FC's?

[Dousan_PG]

HAHA rotarys suck.Thats why you liked the 240.:keke:

no they dont
rotaries are badass
poorly built rotaries suck.
rotaries that are solid making 350+ hp are amazing
I LOVE IT!!

my next drift car..maybe a RX7...>FD would be sweet
or RX8 w/ rotary..ooh so sexy

[Andrew Bohan]

word
i blew my ka at my first drift event, then i did like 20 in my fc, then did some donuts in a 240 and i was like wow... i don't remember it being this easy.

[jfc3po]

rx8 with a 20b is badass...renesis motor is nice and reliable compared to the other rotaries but not low end or top end power....

13-BREw's scare the shit out of me though....

[atutt]

no they dont
rotaries are badass
poorly built rotaries suck.
rotaries that are solid making 350+ hp are amazing
I LOVE IT!!

my next drift car..maybe a RX7...>FD would be sweet
or RX8 w/ rotary..ooh so sexy

What do you mean "RX-8 w/ rotary"... Last time I checked they all came with a rotary to begin with? lol

[Dousan_PG]

a real rotary
like turbos and shit
from fds and fcs
what is that..20b?

or a sweet NA 3 rotor that revs to high hell

i dont know much about rotories
but a few of my friends have fcs/fds/rx8s and they are amazing. i want that.

[atutt]

rx8 with a 20b is badass...renesis motor is nice and reliable compared to the other rotaries but not low end or top end power....

13-BREw's scare the shit out of me though....

Yeah, they scare me too... More than the RB26 does...

[White Comet]

the fc is a lot smoother while sideways and can drift better than an s13 stock for stock.. my fc has factory lsd thoguh were most stock 240s dont. the fc is nice to drive if u know what ur doing but the s13 and s14 are easy on beginners. one year isnt long enough to really get the feel of ur fc and be able to confidently whip it around anywhere. not saying ur a noob, but put in more seat time, i've been at it for 5 yrs and i still have a lot to learn. the the best course of action is to just do wha ti did, own both

[atutt]

a real rotary
like turbos and shit
from fds and fcs
what is that..20b?

or a sweet NA 3 rotor that revs to high hell

20b is a 3-rotor engine....

[Dousan_PG]

learn something everyday
cool

[!Zar!]

a real rotary
like turbos and shit
from fds and fcs
what is that..20b?

or a sweet NA 3 rotor that revs to high hell

13bt is fc 2 rotor
13brew is fd 2 rotor

20b is cosmo 3 rotor.

rx8 is Renesis 2 rotor. The crappy retarded rotaries brother.

[slos14]

so you beat the piss out of some other guys car . an his so called friend let you wow thats mest up . i would beat the shit out of my friends if i found out they let some one i dont know drive my car . sory if i come off to sound like a prick but thats not right .

justin

[razmus]

I've drifted many cars. My fc tII was easy as hell as long as you have the dtss bushings. But it handled SO much better than a 240 ever could.

But wait.

Why are we talking about FC's?

yeah i dont have the bushings, but i can control it without a problem. i think one of the draw backs from the FC is the steering angle. kinda low but oh well. i do love my FC though haha

[!Zar!]

yeah i dont have the bushings, but i can control it without a problem. i think one of the draw backs from the FC is the steering angle. kinda low but oh well. i do love my FC though haha

No wonder. Get the dtss eliminators from mazdatrix. They are dirt cheap and work wonders.

As for steering angle, you can buy increased angle tierods/ends but it only works if you have a power steering rack. If you have manual steering, you'll have to buy washers and home depot it.

[razmus]

so you beat the piss out of some other guys car . an his so called friend let you wow thats mest up . i would beat the shit out of my friends if i found out they let some one i dont know drive my car . sory if i come off to sound like a prick but thats not right .

justin


LOL....k dude. its alright you dont know my co-worker or his friend. His friend has about 723,684,763,234 cars. Mercede's, BMW's, Trucks out the ass, and a shitload of economy cars. he owns like 4 businesses. Hes rich as shit. my co worker brought this car to play with today. You think hes going to care if we beat on this 240? he bought it for dirt cheap. he bought it to beat the shit out of it.

[Matej]

My friend has an ultra gangster turbo FC, one day he was working on it at someone's house, and then he had to drive it home, but it was all taken apart, he drove it home pretty much just as a shell, without any lights or anything at midnight, it had no body panels, I don't think it even had a windshield haha, I could only tell where he was because he was shooting flames the entire time, it was hilarious, I love FC's and I'd love to have one.


FC would be my second choice car though, I love S13 hatchbacks more. :bigok:

[!Zar!]

I beat myself sometimes.

er...

[Subzeroqc]

You drifted you friend's friend's car? Wow that seems like a good idea.... I'd sleep with an eye open tonight...

[atutt]

/\/\ I've let my friend drift my S14 before...

[Subzeroqc]

But in this case, he didn't know the guy. Personally, I'd find and hurt the person.

[Dousan_PG]

flybert drifted my car off HTM and broeke my front bumper

it was so funny

haha

good times

i drifted and dragged BHs bumper around the track for 3 laps

[!Zar!]

You can't get angry at the the OP. It's the co-worker who offered the car.

Op just took advantage. Was it the right/smart thing to do, no.

[ixfxi]

Well i drifted my first 240 today and let me say.....shits crazy. I drive/drift an FC3S and i have been drifting for about a year. Im at the point where i know my car and i can control it. So in other words i know what im doing.

chill vin diesel, dont be too modest now....

[kevtrinh]

yeah fcs aren't as bad as everyone say they are...it is just that most fc owners know nothing about setting up their car so most of them aren't nearly as built compared to a mildly done s chassis car.

[k's_silvia2.0]

no they dont
rotaries are badass
poorly built rotaries suck.
rotaries that are solid making 350+ hp are amazing
I LOVE IT!!

my next drift car..maybe a RX7...>FD would be sweet
or RX8 w/ rotary..ooh so sexy

I know they dont I was just giving the new guy a hard time.;)

[skizzayfc3s]

Amen to the initial post by razmus. I've been sliding my fc for a bit, yet when I jumped in my friends s13, omg, it was just so, SO much easier and controlled. At the time, my fc had dtss eliminators and a few other things, but damn, it was fun as hell sliding the s13. By no means am I declaring that fc drivers are better, fuck no, there is no ruler to measure drivers against one another. But all in all, once a skill is learned, I think it can easily be shown regardless of vehicle chassis, though it may help to learn on a more difficult car, such as the FC with its lame rear suspension and weight positioning, rather than an s13.


Also, for you idiots who bash the rotary, they can last. Do your maintenance. They are more sensitive. My car's original motor went well over 200k easily.

[!Zar!]

Mine has had zero problems. It was more reliable than my s14.

[Matej]

Need help with drifting your FC? Haha.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUec1MXoi0k

[CKAMC]

Supposedly toyota has pwned mazda and nissan.................

[Dousan_PG]

Supposedly toyota has pwned mazda and nissan.................

yes
many years ago
it was called "MARK II"

hahaha
goddamn
i want this

http://media.ziptied.com/members/files/34/other/miyabichan2006-img600x450-1194780508img_1611.jpg
http://media.ziptied.com/members/files/34/other/miyabichan2006-img600x450-1194780502img_1637.jpg
http://media.ziptied.com/members/files/34/other/miyabichan2006-img600x450-1194780486img_1609.jpg

[DOOK]

haha... Vin Diesel was mentioned in this thread... I love it... I may be getting a twin turbo FD shortly... I don't know shit about rotary engines though... this could be bad cause I have heard they are hell on maintenance.

[White Comet]

^ thats a big misconception, if u really learn a rotary u'll have no probs

[!Zar!]

Rotaries are easy as hell to figure out.

[DOOK]

well, I have a buddy that is kind of the rotary guru around here, but I still don't know if I want to fuck with a rotary. I just got off the phone with him and he said we'd get rid of the oil mixing system and I'd just mix my fuel, but I still don't think I wanna fuck with it.

[!Zar!]

Some people switch over to premix, but that is by no means necessary.

[Farzam]

My friend had a super fast FC that he absolutely loved, he wouldn't shut up about it.
He also had an SR'd coupe with cams, turbo, etc.

He traded the FC for a Busa, but refused to get rid of the coupe.

He's got a nice SR though, it's taken numerous 15 hour trips from NC to IL. He'd never take the FC.

I guess what i'm trying to say is that everyone has their perfect match. And he wasn't much of a drifter.

[S13SilviaGirl]

yes
many years ago
it was called "MARK II"

hahaha
goddamn
i want this



Aaron, there is one for sale on our base...2,800 yen.;)

[SimpleSexy180]

can i paypal you that 2800 yennies? 8)

[LB.Motoring]

hahaha you wishhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[bmx22]

i started drifting with my 91 mr2 turbo which was really hard, mid motor. when i finally started to get it some one banged my car and totalled it. thats when i built my first 240..but when my 240 was auto and on cusco coils i could drift way beter than the mr2..still miss that car...now with sr and every thing eles im killing it ......240s are idiot proof for drifting, even if im on my second 240 because i crashed drifting.

[xtreme_s14]

i drifted my friends FC
henry shelly (PINK FC, WRONG WAY)
it was siiiick

before or after his v-mount setup? how was it? i never got around to riding with him.. =/

[Dousan_PG]

i dont remeber
probably before???

i didnt ride with him
i drove it

after riding w/ him
so i wouldnt crash it
it was the bes thing ever
i want a td06-20g!

[vinhnumber]

He's got a nice SR though, it's taken numerous 15 hour trips from NC to IL. He'd never take the FC.

I guess what i'm trying to say is that everyone has their perfect match. And he wasn't much of a drifter.


mazda wouldn't make a car not to be reliable, I have tons of friends with fc's they drive them hard, just gotta take a little more care of them then regular piston cars. Their old cars probably have been beaten on their whole life. Cooling is key for rotary. The sound, and the feel of it makes you excited. Well and your friend probably didn't take long trips in it, because rotories don't really get good gas mileage haha! Buddy of mine drives his Fc to TJ all the time from Ontario. No problems at all.

[johngriff]

This reminds me of a long time ago.

I was out with some of my old friends, steve in his old KA car, my friend chris in his FC and my old hatch. There was a new industrial park that had been finished, but all of it was blocked off by construction guarding. We used to slip in at night and tear up the new pavement, lots of nice sweeping turns, elevation changes and shit had to be like 4 lanes wide.

As we were getting faster and faster playing 3 car chase, my friend in the FC consistently couldn't hold my line and would spin. Finally we talk shoot the shit, and decide to trade cars.

Driving the FC, then trying to get it to hold after a flick and clutch kick made me sick, I don't know if I have a bad inner ear or what, but sitting ontop of the rear wheel, I almost threw up.

My friend who owned the FC driving my car on the other hand was able to set down and hold nice long slides.

After we get out, he says "You're cheating, you're car is too easy to drift"

Those days are long over, but that was really my stand out impression of the FC, and this thread reminds me of it, now I have seen allot of FC's look really good out at the track, what they do and how they do it, I haven't a clue.

[PRADOgy]

Considering iv had 4 rx7's and were used as drift cars .. try this turn your steering wheel all the way to the right.. and then turn your friends 240 steering wheel all the way to the right and look how much more angle he has over you.. and the other thing is the way the rotary engines power tourqe bend works.. that thing is not stable.. it either drops it or over does it..

thats my experience.. oh yeah rx7 are front-mid engines too..

[916S14]

rotaries are cool and all, but the gas mileage on that thing is crap, and i had an FC and it had 180K on it and was still running strong. I would say they are very reliable.

[PRADOgy]

On the 1986-92 RX-7s Mazda introduced the Dynamic Tuned Suspension System (DTSS). DTSS allows each wheel to steer by itself based on how many Gs of cornering force the outside wheel is generating. In stock form, cornering forces operating on the rear upright cause up to approximately 1 degree of toe-in on the outside wheel in a turn. This characteristic tends to compensate for driver input or road variations that might cause a vehicle to go out of control. However, this same characteristic also interferes with the feedback that a sensitive driver needs to operate his car near the limit of adhesion and generally reduces the ultimate cornering force.

Racing Beat has a Toe Eliminatora rigid joint that replaces the stock rubber joint - provides a perceptible improvement in feedback to the driver. There is no longer a need to modulate inputs based on the constantly fluctuating elastic joint output. The kit consists of two (2) rigid plastic sleeves and two (2) steel bushings which should be installed with the aid of a hydraulic press or a large vise. No re-alignment is necessary after installation.

[ilia]

FC>S13. You get much more mechanical grip, WAY better brakes, and the DTSS is just fine for sliding. If you are having trouble drifting an FC, and can drift an S13, it's not because the FC is hard, it's because you need more practice drifting.

[PRADOgy]

FC>S13. You get much more mechanical grip, WAY better brakes, and the DTSS is just fine for sliding. If you are having trouble drifting an FC, and can drift an S13, it's not because the FC is hard, it's because you need more practice drifting.

no offence but WRONG!
it is prefference but an fc is much harder...
iv had turboII's and GXL'S and i love them but seriously they are harder to keep sideways that much longer as appose to a 240

[PRADOgy]

FC>S13. You get much more mechanical grip, WAY better brakes, and the DTSS is just fine for sliding. If you are having trouble drifting an FC, and can drift an S13, it's not because the FC is hard, it's because you need more practice drifting.

but i aggree it is more of a true sports car.. 4 piston brakes.. clutch type lsd 5 lug (on better models) it was pretty darn ahead of its time

[S13Leprechaun]

well, I have a buddy that is kind of the rotary guru around here, but I still don't know if I want to fuck with a rotary. I just got off the phone with him and he said we'd get rid of the oil mixing system and I'd just mix my fuel, but I still don't think I wanna fuck with it.

so blow the rotary, and drop an rb or sr into it or something. my friend did it he said it wasnt too hard.. (he did sr)... pretty quick.

[!Zar!]

i want a td06-20g!
I have one in one of my s-chassis. Greatest thing. Builds power nicely and can hold it.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh~


FC>S13. You get much more mechanical grip, WAY better brakes, and the DTSS is just fine for sliding. If you are having trouble drifting an FC, and can drift an S13, it's not because the FC is hard, it's because you need more practice drifting.
I don't think anyone is quite meaning that the fc sucks drifting. It just needs a few mods to be reliable during a high speed drift. As does the s13.

My s4 tII was great for drifting. It was even better after dtss eliminators were installed as well as spacers were installed in the rack. Only thing I wish I did to it was install powersteering to make it all easier.

[KAs14slider]

I learned on a bone stock 88 fc with open diff and choped springs and i could hold drifts no problem. In my opinion its all about the driver then the car gets upgraded to allow it to do more such as really high speed drifts, more angle, reliability, etc. Rx-7's are great. And when you learn on a pos you can drift anything. I have also drifted a bunch of other cars including trueno, sc400, fd, muscle cars, my dad's pathfinder, etc. All can be drifted, just takes getting used to.

[DOOK]

so blow the rotary, and drop an rb or sr into it or something. my friend did it he said it wasnt too hard.. (he did sr)... pretty quick.

nah, if I'm going through the trouble of doing any kind of swap, it's gonna be V8

[jfc3po]

i love FCs....had a 1990 GTUs...1 of 100 made....88k on the body and 38k on the rebuild....from what i've read....once you get the hang of FCs, they are great for drifting because of their "polar moment" (or some shit like that) makes the transitions smoother...i could be wrong...read this shit a couple years ago...

[JDMClifford]

umm, i dont know if this has already ben said but i wondering where you got this from?:::

I was talking to some people that own RX7s and they say that if you can drift an RX7 you can easily drift other cars due to the fucked up almost 50/50 balance of the car. Ive also heard this about miatas as well.

just as a heads up s14s are almost 50/50, and also honda S2000. ever watched someone drift an s14 or a s2000. ya...

[IStop4NoMan]

my ex wants me to give her my 240, so she can sell it and buy a FD....

that bitch

[Antihero983]

im a closet rotary fan, i want an FC so bad, but i have nowhere to keep it....