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tony96240sx
11-19-2007, 12:52 PM
i think the koyo radiator is overpriced..is there any other company that makes aluminum radiators for a s14 with a redtop engine? for a decent price
Slidin240Wayz
11-19-2007, 01:02 PM
Griffin..........
tony96240sx
11-19-2007, 01:04 PM
did anyon ever experienced the mishimoto radiators? there a knock off of the koyos for half the price
smelly240
11-19-2007, 01:09 PM
i hae an alchemy - works good. I see the mishimoto ones on friends with honds' cars and they like em.
Kaotik25
11-19-2007, 01:21 PM
i have the mishimoto radiator for about 5 months. It kept my car cool during the hot socal summer. no leak or loss of pressure. I like it.
tony96240sx
11-19-2007, 01:22 PM
this is good to know..where did you purchase your radiator?what fans are you running also
codyace
11-19-2007, 01:32 PM
You think a Koyo is overpriced? Wow.
Koyo+Altima fans = Happy 240
DALAZ_68
11-19-2007, 01:45 PM
You think a Koyo is overpriced? Wow.
Koyo+Altima fans = Happy 240
we all have different budgets
tony96240sx
11-19-2007, 01:49 PM
thank you dalaz.! 399 radiator vs a 189.oo radiator..if it does the same job and lasted in people cars for over 2 years and still working fine...why spend the unnessary money ? i am tired when people say you pay for what you get..it all comes down to does it do the same thing?
Griffin is like $200 at summit for the universal one.
Thats what I use.
EAT Motorsports
11-19-2007, 05:39 PM
how much you looking on spending
g6civcx
11-19-2007, 05:41 PM
Look into a copper radiator for a lower price. Copper is not as efficient as aluminium but copper is more durable/tougher.
Also consider OEM if you are not putting out much more power than stock.
oversteerplease
11-19-2007, 07:57 PM
I have a Mishimoto with my SR, Altima fans, and Nismo thermostat and it does the job in south Florida. Koyo is for sure worth the money, and sometimes I wish I would have gotten one just to make myself feel better. ^ and as stated above. I rocked the OEM rad for 2 months on the stock SR with no issues.
Kuzumi
11-19-2007, 08:06 PM
i have heard that copper dissipates heat better but also changes temp very quickly.
AznDrftr.
11-19-2007, 08:08 PM
i have stock ka one. its fine. i've hearf, that mishi is good. a buddy of mine runnin one on his rb.
codyace
11-19-2007, 08:49 PM
we all have different budgets
Those without enough money for quality parts shouldn't mod their cars either IMO.
thank you dalaz.! 399 radiator vs a 189.oo radiator..if it does the same job and lasted in people cars for over 2 years and still working fine...why spend the unnessary money ? i am tired when people say you pay for what you get..it all comes down to does it do the same thing?
399? Are you on crack. YOu can find them for a little over 300 shipped. So you spend 100 more on a MUCH better product.
What I'M tired of, are cheap ass kids that buy parts based on price, taking money away from respectable companies who actually put R+D time into a product that fits, works, and doesn't fail out of the box.
The knockoffs have already begun putting legitamate companies out of business...companies that have spent countless time developing products that kick ass. Eventually what will happen is that there will be no legitamate companies around producing affordable products, and thus R+D will stop, and we'll be forced to use regurgitated cheap chinese crap instead of quality parts made by real companies.
...I don't know why I even wasted the time. Go ahead, buy the cheap skank radiator and be happy with whatever you have. I've found people like you are are typicall only concerned with lengthening your sig mod list anyway, and not with having a reliable, rockin car.
Bushido
11-19-2007, 08:59 PM
ill vouch for griffin, decently priced and good quality.
EAT Motorsports
11-19-2007, 09:03 PM
Those without enough money for quality parts shouldn't mod their cars either IMO.
399? Are you on crack. YOu can find them for a little over 300 shipped. So you spend 100 more on a MUCH better product.
What I'M tired of, are cheap ass kids that buy parts based on price, taking money away from respectable companies who actually put R+D time into a product that fits, works, and doesn't fail out of the box.
The knockoffs have already begun putting legitamate companies out of business...companies that have spent countless time developing products that kick ass. Eventually what will happen is that there will be no legitamate companies around producing affordable products, and thus R+D will stop, and we'll be forced to use regurgitated cheap chinese crap instead of quality parts made by real companies.
...I don't know why I even wasted the time. Go ahead, buy the cheap skank radiator and be happy with whatever you have. I've found people like you are are typicall only concerned with lengthening your sig mod list anyway, and not with having a reliable, rockin car.
Exactly Brands like POS megan racing, ichiba, etc etc that shit will fall about so fast... some kid wanted to get a ichiba manifold put on his car the flange was so bad we couldnt get it on the motor with the engine on a stand.... get the quiality stuff you will be happy you did $350 for a radiator isn't a bad deal... comparied to GReddy SARD and APexi Radiators are 500ish.... anyways you will spend more in the end if you go with crap... if you are worried about cooling and dont have money.... spend $50 on a theremostat and $20 on a high pressure rad cap.
EJ253
11-19-2007, 09:08 PM
alchemy is out of business, but theyre sick for sure.
alchy + FALs = cool motor during la dorfito
Tom Ngan
11-19-2007, 09:09 PM
I have a Mishimoto Rad, samco hoses, Nismo thermostat, Altima fans, works perfectly fine with me. Same dimensions as Koyo. Cost me $210 shipped for the radiator.
Only bad part is the bleeder hole on the bottom is easily stripped, so just be careful when draining coolant.
Koyo's are good, good median between the cheap ebay garbage and the blitz, greddy, etc +$500 rads.
NiSilS14
11-19-2007, 09:10 PM
the only way you can save money in this industry if you can build the part yourself and KNOW what you're doing. If not then buy it. Sure you can buy knockoff parts, to get you through or whatnot but don't forget you don't get same thing. Quality inspection may not as strict or they may use a poorer grade of materials. You're buying peace of mind knowing that part is gonna function when you need it to and not having crap out on you in middle of a race or whatever it maybe. Gotta pay to play.
slideways14
11-19-2007, 09:24 PM
i used to have a universal griffin for my one sr'd project. it takes some more work fabbing up mounts because its a universal. Koyo fits right in there like stock and looks amazing. you could also used your push fan from the AC unit in front of your rad for cooling.
slw240sx
11-20-2007, 01:30 AM
i was doing the koyos for 305 shipped, hell a stock replacement from the parts store is 200 something, whats another 100$ for a quality part?
knock off parts are going to kill the future of this hobby. I look at my car and the money i spent getting it there back in 01 and i look at the guys that are spending a fraction of the money i did but have a ton more parts, but i also get to sell them the nice parts because the knock offs only last so long, yet im rocking stuff from 00-01
ZooMxxl
11-20-2007, 01:49 AM
what kind of driving will you be doing?
tony96240sx
11-20-2007, 06:29 AM
cheap kid..buddy i am 8 years older then you...i dont know about you..but i have to much respondsibilites in life and bills to pay..you might be living under our pops basement but i have to pay the morgage..i just wanted some advice and i didnt need to be flamed on..this is my first 240sx and i just wanted to know if the knock off radiator does the same job as these radiators that are overpriced..the reason i said overpriced maybe i am so use to american muscle parts being so cheap..i use to own mustangs before i got into this import game..so sue me for asking a new bee question..this forum is to help people and get great advice so save your stupid comments outside..
as for now i think i will keep the car with the stock KA s14 radiator and just custom make a hose to work..till i have enough money for a "koyo" and the altima fan set up sounds good..what year altima fan are you guys using..?
codyace
11-20-2007, 09:07 AM
cheap kid..buddy i am 8 years older then you...i dont know about you..but i have to much respondsibilites in life and bills to pay..you might be living under our pops basement but i have to pay the morgage..i just wanted some advice and i didnt need to be flamed on..this is my first 240sx and i just wanted to know if the knock off radiator does the same job as these radiators that are overpriced..the reason i said overpriced maybe i am so use to american muscle parts being so cheap..i use to own mustangs before i got into this import game..so sue me for asking a new bee question..this forum is to help people and get great advice so save your stupid comments outside..
Don't lecture me about responsibility. I pay everything (rent (util included), cell phone, food (speaking of which I do need to head to the store today) insurance, gas, for my cars, for my parts, am in the military, been overseas, full time student, work as much as I can around school, etc etc etc.
Im' not hear to compare ball size with you, but sine you brought it in, Im' more than willing to comply.
I gave you my advice on the situation. Just because it wasn't candy coated and nice doesn't mean it's not right and or without merit. Im' not the only one to think that either based on some new rep.
as for now i think i will keep the car with the stock KA s14 radiator and just custom make a hose to work..till i have enough money for a "koyo" and the altima fan set up sounds good..what year altima fan are you guys using..?
Any altima 93-99 IIRC (not sure if the 2000 and or 2001 are the same). A32 (94-99) Maxima fans are also the same.
tony96240sx
11-20-2007, 09:10 AM
thanks for the info...just a little frustrated thats all man...i have this piece of shit car sitting in my backyard in the rain..soon snow..and i got no where with it because i ran into a lot of money problems in the last min.
ayuaddict
11-20-2007, 09:51 AM
i like my powered by max radiator.
works dope.
JDMwannaBE
11-20-2007, 09:56 AM
did anyon ever experienced the mishimoto radiators? there a knock off of the koyos for half the pricei know a guy who has one in a civic. he loves it. i dont know how it compares to a koyo but im sure it does the job.
DALAZ_68
11-20-2007, 11:20 AM
my thoughts are this
ive seen cars with both mushimoto(sp) and koyo radiators...
both great
aluminum is a great upgrade...obviously disipates heat better and lighter i think...
ive seen both have there fair share of prblems of bad beads...leaks blah blah
my opinion is..if u buy it, check it first, looks for any possible weak spots...get it fixed
koyo's havent exactly been around forever...i personally think mushimotos (again sp) are like the new koyo's in the scene...not much rep yet...but itll get there
i say what ever works better than stock is worth it if ur not paying out of ur butt for it bro...
GL
markyboi
11-20-2007, 11:23 AM
i think that my koyo is great! maybe works way more efficiently than i expected. i partially blocked off the bumper just so i can have heater during winter. my temperature needle goes down(cools) everytime i get on the freeway
i paid 315 for a brand new unit.
tony96240sx
11-20-2007, 11:26 AM
yea i notice on ebay there like 274 ..which isnt bad..what fans are you using?
de89coupe
11-20-2007, 11:27 AM
my godspeed works great and paid like $200
DALAZ_68
11-20-2007, 11:27 AM
what i like aboutmy Single cam chassis is that they came with a temp prob that u can DIY a connection to the A/C fan so u have a clutch fan and temp fan without spending a dime
markyboi
11-20-2007, 11:27 AM
stock clutch fan
DALAZ_68
11-20-2007, 11:29 AM
stock clutch fan
FTW
but i have no shroud so the A/C fan helps a good bit
tony96240sx
11-20-2007, 11:30 AM
yea i found a set of maxima fans for 100 bucks..now time to get the radiator...after all of this i got to hunt for a intercooler..
DALAZ_68
11-20-2007, 11:31 AM
i think u can wire the altima's for the same prob aswell so u dont even need a switch or anything
tony96240sx
11-20-2007, 11:34 AM
o really? that is good to know
DALAZ_68
11-20-2007, 11:42 AM
i think all u need is a temp prob for it...theres a write up in 240sx forums dot com... id link it but dont wanna get into any trouble
tony96240sx
11-20-2007, 11:48 AM
ou can PM me the link or email it to me..thanks bro..
[email protected]
DALAZ_68
11-20-2007, 11:59 AM
PM sent
MSGLNGTH
Cataphract
11-20-2007, 03:37 PM
i think the koyo radiator is overpriced..is there any other company that makes aluminum radiators for a s14 with a redtop engine? for a decent price
Koyo overpriced? Youre such a cheapskate. Just buy a no name eBay crap , you dont deserve a Koyo.
we all have different budgets
Just because you cant afford something dosnt mean you have to insult it . Thats what makes a person a hater , since thay cant have it , they bash it.
DALAZ_68
11-20-2007, 03:53 PM
Koyo overpriced? Youre such a cheapskate. Just buy a no name eBay crap , you dont deserve a Koyo.
Just because you cant afford something dosnt mean you have to insult it . Thats what makes a person a hater , since thay cant have it , they bash it.
well lets get this straight...i niether bashed OP or koyo...i just stated MPO on the matter...
and im not claiming u bashing me...i just wanna get things chill b4 hot heads intervien the situation
Tenchuu
11-20-2007, 05:52 PM
I had a stock S14 with a RB25 stock... it would overheat on ling trips over a pass in mildly warm weather. i switched to a griffin and a SPAL fan controller and haven't had a problem since
GabeS14
11-21-2007, 12:12 AM
Those without enough money for quality parts shouldn't mod their cars either IMO.
399? Are you on crack. YOu can find them for a little over 300 shipped. So you spend 100 more on a MUCH better product.
What I'M tired of, are cheap ass kids that buy parts based on price, taking money away from respectable companies who actually put R+D time into a product that fits, works, and doesn't fail out of the box.
The knockoffs have already begun putting legitamate companies out of business...companies that have spent countless time developing products that kick ass. Eventually what will happen is that there will be no legitamate companies around producing affordable products, and thus R+D will stop, and we'll be forced to use regurgitated cheap chinese crap instead of quality parts made by real companies.
...I don't know why I even wasted the time. Go ahead, buy the cheap skank radiator and be happy with whatever you have. I've found people like you are are typicall only concerned with lengthening your sig mod list anyway, and not with having a reliable, rockin car.
He is right ...I found them for 240 if searched right, even on ebay you can find for 250
but again, did you search??? because i had to buy a radiator recently and searched under radiators, and came up with a few threads, one talking about Godspeed, how they might come from the same factory in taiwan , and they also can be found for $130
tony96240sx
11-21-2007, 06:22 AM
cataphract it must be nice to hide behind a computer screen eh? if your not going to help out on this thread gtfo>>>>>>>>jack ass
shinhed
11-21-2007, 03:02 PM
There are a lot of "kids" on this forum, with their heads up their, JDM, high priced, ball'n asses.
There are too many retailers and members misleading many, into believing their shit's better, because of a
[email protected] name brand or because it costs twice as much. I've a Koyo rad and a Mishimoto, my SPL rods and brake lines versus, my ebay lines, had a DC Sport header and now an OBX, my Bride seat versus my bro's F1 Specs ,my Watanabes and Volks versus my Enkei's and OZ's...it's all becoming the same!!
As long as you don't go to far off the cheap end with low priced Chinese shit, and do your research, you're probably in good standings and need not for some fag to down you or other frugal tuners and enthusiasts because you didn't spend $4k in shit from A-spec
Bushido
11-21-2007, 04:19 PM
I agree with most said in the post above. $350-400 for a Koyo IS expensive, if you inform yourself about the different radiators available out there, you will learn that there are many better options out there for HALF the price of a Koyo.
GabeS14
11-22-2007, 08:57 PM
Enought info to decide yet?
let us know what you are going to go with!
Kuzumi
11-22-2007, 09:37 PM
look for a 2pass copper or aluminum, kinda like the koyo n-flow design.
codyace
11-23-2007, 09:38 AM
yea i found a set of maxima fans for 100 bucks..now time to get the radiator...after all of this i got to hunt for a intercooler..
100 bucks is about double what you should pay for them. They go for anywhere around 50+ shipping on this forum. Remember to check out all 240/Nissan forums for your best deal.
There are a lot of "kids" on this forum, with their heads up their, JDM, high priced, ball'n asses.
Hate much? Not sure about you, but I've never heard of 'high priced jdm balln' stuff breaking. I have heard of cheap off brand stuff breaking.
There are too many retailers and members misleading many, into believing their shit's better, because of a
[email protected] name brand or because it costs twice as much. I've a Koyo rad and a Mishimoto, my SPL rods and brake lines versus, my ebay lines, had a DC Sport header and now an OBX, my Bride seat versus my bro's F1 Specs ,my Watanabes and Volks versus my Enkei's and OZ's...it's all becoming the same!!
So let me get this straight, you're saying:
1. No name brake lines are = real deal goodrich ones?
2. Your OBX and brother's cheap no name seats = Bride
You honestly have no clue about what you're talking about, and really should refrain from comment. Being frugal about modding cars is about as intelligent as day trading with upstart tech firms in todays market.
I can understand a little where you are coming from, but those pricey items are priced that way as they don't fail. Don't hate on those that can afford, but please realize that buying cheap shit is just that.
FWIW: And before you get carried away, I have an MR downpipe and MR cat delete pipe. I had to take the flex out of the MR pipe, and weld in my own aftermarket burns one (as the MR one failed), and the MR cat delete pipe's o2 sensor bung hit my frame rail, so I had to cut it, and weld it shut. I learned on 2 very rudamentairy pieces to not trust them.
As long as you don't go to far off the cheap end with low priced Chinese shit, and do your research, you're probably in good standings and need not for some fag to down you or other frugal tuners and enthusiasts because you didn't spend $4k in shit from A-spec
DC is chinese, OBX is chinese, F1 Spec is chinese, no name lines are chinese, and Mishimoto is chinese
I agree with most said in the post above. $350-400 for a Koyo IS expensive, if you inform yourself about the different radiators available out there, you will learn that there are many better options out there for HALF the price of a Koyo.
Instread of reading only the post above you, try researching and or reading all posts. You can find most Koyo's for under 300 shipped.
i think u can wire the altima's for the same prob aswell so u dont even need a switch or anything
Now that you say that, I'm not sure. I think this can only be done with S14 ecu's, not S13 ecus...but don't quote me on it.
I have mine both wired up with a Derale fan controller.
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