View Full Version : New and Improved Home Depot Lip! Version2.
Addicted2Kouki
11-18-2007, 01:17 AM
Well... for some odd reason my SE didnt come with a lip.
I was thinking of buying one then i got the retarded idea of doing one of those low budget lips.
this was just for fun to hold me off til i got some real aero for my car.
I didnt like the original home depot lip because well:
-it was floppy.
-hard to mount straight without a lip already on the car.
-only comes in rolls of 30ft at the home depot by my house.
I wanted something cheap, durable, clean, and simple.
I actually got the idea from my friend who did it to his miata.
He got the idea from some miata forum.
All in all the materials was under $10.
+Diamond Loc... the big one. $8 -- Home Depot
+Self Tapping screws. $1 for like 12 -- ACE Hardware
Tools needed:
+Power Drill... or a screwdriver if you ate some wheaties this morning.
+small garden shears
Here's some pics:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/pinoylicious4you/1117072354b.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/pinoylicious4you/1117072354a.jpg
under.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/pinoylicious4you/1117072356a.jpg
Sorry for the low res pics. Ill post better pictures as soon as I get another camera and paint my front bumper.
The rest of my car looks like this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/pinoylicious4you/1116071543a.jpg
painted it myself. still gotta colorsand and buff.
Hope you like it.
EDIT:
Finally some pics.
Too bad the lighting was the best. but it was all i could do with this cheap digital camera.
Installed after paint w/ turn signals, sidemarkers.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/pinoylicious4you/HPIM0242.jpg
On car.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/pinoylicious4you/HPIM0244.jpg
And another one.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/pinoylicious4you/HPIM0245.jpg
Closeups.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/pinoylicious4you/HPIM0249.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/pinoylicious4you/HPIM0250.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/pinoylicious4you/HPIM0251.jpg
Yeah, it is a lil short. I may extend it by adding something to the bottom.
But still clean, simple, and subtle.
HKSdrift3r
11-18-2007, 01:20 AM
looks good, especially for the price!!
Good job
soreballz
11-18-2007, 01:57 AM
I gotta see this in person. Hit me up. lol
downshift_sideways
11-18-2007, 02:03 AM
looks cool , post pics when its on..
and I love your avatar.
hurts my eyes.
DreamN
11-18-2007, 02:19 AM
not bad, is this an s14 only lip or can it be modified to fit the s13 (both pop-up and silvia fronts)?
Addicted2Kouki
11-18-2007, 03:51 AM
I gotta see this in person. Hit me up. lol
since youre in long beach.
yeah sure PM me your number and ill meet you up sometime to check it out after i paint it or whatever.
looks cool , post pics when its on..
and I love your avatar.
hurts my eyes.
will do.
avatar reminds me not to fuck up when i drive hahaha
not bad, is this an s14 only lip or can it be modified to fit the s13 (both pop-up and silvia fronts)?
hrm actually this might work for s13s also. im just wondering if itll go around the curve of the bumper as good. well.. you can always try.
im just wondering how you would get it on the fenders.
.:SD240SX:.
11-18-2007, 04:18 AM
thats smart and hella clean looking, wayyy better than the other homedepot lip.
kawika219
11-18-2007, 04:34 AM
holy hell haha. i work in the garden dept at home depot in hawaii and i just sold 5 to a guy lol. imma buy on tomorrow and see how it goes
S14DB
11-18-2007, 05:33 AM
What is Diamond Loc?
jackjack
11-18-2007, 10:56 AM
not bad. not bad at all. get some better pics when you get a chance.
Addicted2Kouki
11-18-2007, 11:33 AM
What is Diamond Loc?
It's a gangster that wears a lotta diamonds. hahaha okay sorry. bad joke.
Hrmm... I'll stop by Home Depot sometime this week and take a picture. Kinda hard to describe. It's in the garden dept. usually around the cove lining shit.
and Thanks everyone.
diomedes
11-18-2007, 12:58 PM
Wow, nice job! Looks good too.
bardabe
11-18-2007, 01:10 PM
RnD at its finest right now lol Ver 2 is definetly allot better. nice job
DrtyRat
11-18-2007, 01:40 PM
What is Diamond Loc?
IIRC diamond lock is a hard plastic border that is used to keep paving stones in place. I worked @ home depot for 11yrs and i vaguely remeber this stuff.
abstrakt
11-18-2007, 02:07 PM
What is the "diamond loc" made of? Urethane or is it plastic? Basically..How easily could it crack and break?
lflkajfj12123
11-18-2007, 02:24 PM
looks much better than the average home depot lip good job
kawika219
11-18-2007, 03:07 PM
IIRC diamond lock is a hard plastic border that is used to keep paving stones in place. I worked @ home depot for 11yrs and i vaguely remeber this stuff.
thats exactly what it is
What is the "diamond loc" made of? Urethane or is it plastic? Basically..How easily could it crack and break?
i dont know the exact material, but it is a pretty heavy duty yet flexible plastic
89singlecamnoob
11-18-2007, 03:19 PM
looks good, i may have to make a trip to the depot myself.
DrtyRat
11-18-2007, 04:28 PM
looks good, i may have to make a trip to the depot myself.
this was just for fun to hold me off til i got some real aero for my car.
Honestly, this ^^^^ is the only reason that somewhat justifies this. If you make it permanent you (or anyone else) fails!
I demand a picture of it on your car
Addicted2Kouki
11-18-2007, 05:11 PM
Thanks for answering the questions for me guys.
yeah this is just temporary maybe for a couple months while i save up for other more important parts other than aero.
You still cant beat how cheap this all comes out to.
and i already said it earlier....
I'll post pics as soon as i paint my front bumper.
I still have to buy more paint so... i guess some time this week.
Honestly, this ^^^^ is the only reason that somewhat justifies this. If you make it permanent you (or anyone else) fails!
Honestly... there's no need to hate on this.
How can you justify spending $100 on a thrashed SE lip that is the same size, mostly the same shape [just not rounded and without the two aero holes], and may not include the hardware...
When you can get a low budget lip for 1/10 the price, and is not hard to find at all.
This is a mod for the LOW BUDGET 240 OWNERS...
enough said.
slideways2004
11-18-2007, 05:58 PM
how did you find one that is the length of the bumper. i used the same thing but i had to make it from 2 pieces.
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/91/s14minehlip7bj.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
[URL=http://imageshack.us]http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/195/s14minehlip28te.jpg
i used that diamond loc stuff and added the little round thing at the bottom. this was a few years ago and don't mind the dent. it was fixed the next day
DrtyRat
11-18-2007, 06:25 PM
Thanks for answering the questions for me guys.
yeah this is just temporary maybe for a couple months while i save up for other more important parts other than aero.
You still cant beat how cheap this all comes out to.
and i already said it earlier....
I'll post pics as soon as i paint my front bumper.
I still have to buy more paint so... i guess some time this week.
Honestly... there's no need to hate on this.
How can you justify spending $100 on a thrashed SE lip that is the same size, mostly the same shape [just not rounded and without the two aero holes], and may not include the hardware...
When you can get a low budget lip for 1/10 the price, and is not hard to find at all.
This is a mod for the LOW BUDGET 240 OWNERS...
enough said.
Spare me. If anything I was defending YOUR reason for putting it on there. As far as defending your position by mentioning a "thrashed SE lip", I wouldn't waste my money on that either. I would wait until I found one to my liking and get it that one. You can quote me when I say, "I will never buy anything from the outside garden dept @ home depot to make my car look better."
If you want to waste your time an money on this, then by all means, go ahead, but please don't insult me by saying I'm hating on your garden accessory mod....and FWIW if your idea of having a budget includes an $8 garden mod then thats not a budget, thats CHEAP....enough said.
Addicted2Kouki
11-18-2007, 06:38 PM
UGHHHH... fuck it. im tired of seeing internet fights. :drama:
gosh you make it sound so... bad. lol :p
but yeah thanks for stating the facts.
from here on...
only opinions and positive statements please.
also. i said buy the big one. not the regular size diamond loc.
Temple240
11-18-2007, 06:44 PM
Spare me. If anything I was defending YOUR reason for putting it on there. As far as defending your position by mentioning a "thrashed SE lip", I wouldn't waste my money on that either. I would wait until I found one to my liking and get it that one. You can quote me when I say, "I will never buy anything from the outside garden dept @ home depot to make my car look better."
If you want to waste your time an money on this, then by all means, go ahead, but please don't insult me by saying I'm hating on your garden accessory mod....and FWIW if your idea of having a budget includes an $8 garden mod then thats not a budget, thats CHEAP....enough said.
So don't do it. It's really not that difficult to skip over a thread you don't like.
On topic: I can't wait to see how it looks on the car. I want to see someone try it on an s13 too.
I like it for $8 like ThatGuy said it's "CHEAP" replace it at your will.
DrtyRat
11-18-2007, 07:27 PM
So don't do it. It's really not that difficult to skip over a thread you don't like
just as its not that difficult to skip over a post you don't like, no?
To the OP, no internet fighting here, I just felt I needed to defend my post as it was being taken out of context.
cloudstrife930
11-18-2007, 08:37 PM
8 bbux, not to shabby at all for 8 bux
hustlervibes
11-18-2007, 09:24 PM
I bought it today and put it on. Looks decent, not as nice because I have a kouki, but it was really bugging me how I had sideskirts and my front bumper was angled up. I just got the one they had lying around, and it wasn't big enough either... where is the "big" one?
Anyway, I'll post up pics later. And YES this is just temporary until I get my yashio factory front bumper. Also, I can't justify spending 150+ on a USED kouki lip... so $10 and I'm satisfied. I just wish it was a little longer and went down further.
Addicted2Kouki
11-18-2007, 09:33 PM
just as its not that difficult to skip over a post you don't like, no?
To the OP, no internet fighting here, I just felt I needed to defend my post as it was being taken out of context.
Understandable. I guess I misunderstood your comment.
Addicted2Kouki
11-18-2007, 09:36 PM
the big one... actually looks a lil different.
notice the picture thats labeled "under."
the tabs have the weird H hole and a circle hole. The whole tab sticks out farther than the regular diamond loc tabs.
hustlervibes
11-18-2007, 10:56 PM
Ok, thanks. I'll look out for it.
But if it's not low enough for anyone (maybe it's just me) I'm gonna work on modifying it so that it hangs down farther. Should have pics up next week if anyone is interested.
xtreme_s14
11-18-2007, 11:40 PM
i'm still a lil' lost how you made the lip.. you should do a write-up! i could definitely use a replacement for my OEM lip! i use the damn thing as warning as to how much i need to angle my car to clear obstacles! (i.e. - driveways, speedbumps) haha anyways.. VERY NICE!
hustlervibes
11-19-2007, 01:08 AM
It's really simple. Buy the piece, there are already holes in the diamond lok and use the screws to make holes to mount it in your bumper. it bends easier with heat (used the hot sun today) and that's it.
kouki_kouki
11-19-2007, 01:12 AM
its funny its my job to stock those at home depot and everytime i see that product i think about ways to make a lip.
kawika219
11-19-2007, 01:34 AM
its funny its my job to stock those at home depot and everytime i see that product i think about ways to make a lip.the whole world works at home depot haha. you stock them, i sell them
Addicted2Kouki
11-19-2007, 01:38 AM
Ok, thanks. I'll look out for it.
But if it's not low enough for anyone (maybe it's just me) I'm gonna work on modifying it so that it hangs down farther. Should have pics up next week if anyone is interested.
sweet. any room for improvement is always good. we can call it v2.5 lol.
i'm still a lil' lost how you made the lip.. you should do a write-up! i could definitely use a replacement for my OEM lip! i use the damn thing as warning as to how much i need to angle my car to clear obstacles! (i.e. - driveways, speedbumps) haha anyways.. VERY NICE!
ill edit this thread after i paint and put my bumper back on.
ill include a write up in case people dont understand.
Addicted2Kouki
11-19-2007, 02:11 AM
lol someone posirepped me and said,
"LoL,you are ghetto...... but lip looks ok"
hahaha duh... long beach.
eastside!
Tom Ngan
11-19-2007, 08:19 PM
Lets see some better pictures, roadkill just owned my Greddy lip this weekend :)
hustlervibes
11-19-2007, 08:52 PM
I'll go take pics of the lip I installed over the weekend. Then I'm gonna take it off and modify it to make maybe version 2.5? Anyway I just picked up more diamond lok and grass liner stuff. So we'll see how everything turns out.
Addicted2Kouki
11-19-2007, 08:59 PM
hrm i wanna see it on a kouki.
i just took mine off the bumper. should buy paint sometime this week.
hopefully ill paint it either this week or next monday.
hustlervibes
11-19-2007, 10:26 PM
So I was messing around with my idea and it didn't work out all too well. I'm going to keep thinking of other ways to make it hang down lower, but I'll post pics of the diamond lok alone. As soon as I can find the cord for the camera....
hustlervibes
11-19-2007, 10:58 PM
Here is my car with the diamond lok lip which ISN'T the big one, and this is before I put the 2nd piece on to make it look complete.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v497/hustlervibes/PB190003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v497/hustlervibes/PB190001.jpg
UfoZ8myCow
11-20-2007, 09:37 AM
I love how people on this site get bored and end up doing these little DIY projects like making Home Depot lips, or Scooby Doo dash kits, or that one guy who tried to stuff R32 headlights into his S14 LOL.
I just beat off when I get bored. Thats why god invented free internet porn.
The lip doesnt look all that bad though, and for $12 I cant complain.
94_240sx
11-20-2007, 10:59 AM
I did some search and found this. It's good stuff and brilliant!
http://www.valleyviewind.com/paver-edging/15-edgings.html
xtreme_s14
11-20-2007, 01:26 PM
I did some search and found this. It's good stuff and brilliant!
http://www.valleyviewind.com/paver-edging/15-edgings.html
i get it now.. i was under the impression that you were still using the OG home depot garden lip w/ the use of this diamond lok thing! now the issue with this diamond lok is it's too short? why don't you guys use the diamond lok as a guide for the OG garden lip? rivet the OG garden lip onto the diamond lok considering that the garden lip is a lot larger in height! just a thought!
hustlervibes
11-20-2007, 03:18 PM
i get it now.. i was under the impression that you were still using the OG home depot garden lip w/ the use of this diamond lok thing! now the issue with this diamond lok is it's too short? why don't you guys use the diamond lok as a guide for the OG garden lip? rivet the OG garden lip onto the diamond lok considering that the garden lip is a lot larger in height! just a thought!
Thats what I'm trying to do. It doesn't seem to want to cooperate so give it until this weekend and I might have something worked out.
Addicted2Kouki
11-21-2007, 04:19 AM
who neg repped for making a lip?
http://www.zilvia.net/f/images/reputation/reputation_neg.gif New and Improved Home... (http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?p=1655591#post1655591) 11-20-2007 01:09 AM fag
couldnt leave your name?
I'll make sure youre lucky enough to receive the same reputation in return.
back on topic:
might not be able to buy paint this week. so i might not paint my bumper til sometime next week also. ill update.
kandyflip445
11-21-2007, 10:57 AM
who neg repped for making a lip?
http://www.zilvia.net/f/images/reputation/reputation_neg.gif New and Improved Home... (http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?p=1655591#post1655591) 11-20-2007 01:09 AM fag
couldnt leave your name?
I'll make sure youre lucky enough to receive the same reputation in return.
back on topic:
might not be able to buy paint this week. so i might not paint my bumper til sometime next week also. ill update.
Buy a premie membership and you can see who. ;)
I like the diamond loc lip. It looks better than my stock one and it would probably last longer. Mine is hanging off on one side right now and it's bugging the shit out of me.
95silvia240sx
11-21-2007, 11:03 AM
great post looks good +1 rep
hustlervibes
11-21-2007, 03:13 PM
haha I got neg rep too "sweet looking lip fucker" what was that about?
Addicted2Kouki
11-21-2007, 04:06 PM
haters.. ehhh fuck em.
DrtyRat
11-21-2007, 09:14 PM
haters.. ehhh fuck em.
I've already stated where I stand on this matter, but as far as the -rep thing goes, its just gay to not leave your name. Too often its used to show off "e-penis power" and not for its intended purpose. Just for that here's some +rep....yeah I kinda just contradicted myself, but if you like you can look at my face to see the genuine concern that I have on it<------sarcasm(sp?)
kandyflip445
11-21-2007, 10:48 PM
^I'm lost. lol
Should that have been a PM? lol
DrtyRat
11-21-2007, 11:05 PM
^I'm lost. lol
Should that have been a PM? lol
Naw man, I was just stating that I hate when ppl leave stupid comments in -rep and don't leave their name. Like I stated above, I would never do this to my car, but its his car, time, and money, and he's free to spend it how he wants. In the same manner, I'm entitled to tell him that its dumb....see how that works?.?.
I can't really see the "lip" all that well from all these blurry/dark pics....
Jbma327
11-21-2007, 11:21 PM
Wow not bad at all.
Addicted2Kouki
11-22-2007, 01:01 AM
Naw man, I was just stating that I hate when ppl leave stupid comments in -rep and don't leave their name. Like I stated above, I would never do this to my car, but its his car, time, and money, and he's free to spend it how he wants. In the same manner, I'm entitled to tell him that its dumb....see how that works?.?.
exactly. everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
DreamN
11-22-2007, 01:21 AM
Hmm... I'll probably try this for a temp look till I can get either a s13 zenki lip or a Silvia Aero bumper.
hustlervibes
11-22-2007, 02:04 AM
Sorry for the dark and blurry pics, I'll try to get some better ones soon and some ver 2.5 pics as well...
DreamN saw the lip in person the past 2 days and he can vouge for how good it looks, especially for $10 ;)
DreamN
11-22-2007, 02:51 AM
yeah, it looks pretty sweet. the price just makes it better. it's a cheap mod to pass some time on doing and improve the looks to one's car as a temporary solution.
Addicted2Kouki
11-22-2007, 12:00 PM
exactly why i made it.
im glad you are appreciating it.
hustlervibes
11-22-2007, 01:40 PM
As a temporary lip it's amazingly awesome. Just what a temporary lip should be... cheap, easy, replaceable, and look decently good. A couple people said "that's a home depot lip?!" haha I love that reaction.
sidewayz240
11-22-2007, 04:23 PM
somebody do it on an S13, I wanna see if it works on a chuki bumper. Maybe i'll go give it a try.
Looks awsome for a $15 lip.
Addicted2Kouki
11-22-2007, 05:45 PM
somebody do it on an S13, I wanna see if it works on a chuki bumper. Maybe i'll go give it a try.
Looks awsome for a $15 lip.
correction. $10. hahaha
projectb13
11-23-2007, 06:51 PM
i like it looks better than those rivet or bolt on ones!!!!
BillyTheChamp
11-25-2007, 11:15 PM
any updated pics on the zenki? i gave you pos rep for this dope idea.. looks clean..keeps me from forking over 240 for a lip..that my car would just break anyway..
Addicted2Kouki
11-26-2007, 12:52 AM
any updated pics on the zenki? i gave you pos rep for this dope idea.. looks clean..keeps me from forking over 240 for a lip..that my car would just break anyway..
well trying to fund raise for paint.
i got a thread in the for sale section.
MangoDorifto
11-27-2007, 12:16 AM
thought i'd contribute since this thread motivated me.
Addicted2Kouki
11-27-2007, 02:21 AM
thought i'd contribute since this thread motivated me.
nice thanks for contributing.:bow:
+1 rep for you
DreamN
11-27-2007, 03:31 AM
I'll be going to Home Depot tomorrow and will be on the search for this stuff. Diamond Loc 8 ft. piece right? Curious, what size screws are you guys using?
MangoDorifto
11-27-2007, 10:05 AM
yeah, look for the longer diamond-lok of the two. the home depot we went to only had the short one. I used #8 3/4" self tapping sheet metal screws that I also found at home depot. Eat your wheaties tomorrow cause using hand tools to screw it on was no fun at all!
s13pignose
11-27-2007, 10:09 AM
thought i'd contribute since this thread motivated me.
looks pretty good, I probably would have done this aswell if I never finally got a hold to my se lip
bardabe
11-27-2007, 12:22 PM
yeah, look for the longer diamond-lok of the two. the home depot we went to only had the short one. I used #8 3/4" self tapping sheet metal screws that I also found at home depot. Eat your wheaties tomorrow cause using hand tools to screw it on was no fun at all!
you sissies. h aha I did it like that with my S13. it wasn't too bad.
but then again im a 214lb Monster.
BillyTheChamp
11-27-2007, 02:50 PM
yeah, look for the longer diamond-lok of the two. the home depot we went to only had the short one. I used #8 3/4" self tapping sheet metal screws that I also found at home depot. Eat your wheaties tomorrow cause using hand tools to screw it on was no fun at all!
yeah the home depot by me only had the 6ft one.. did yours still go all the way around the front bumper or did you have to use 2? any side shots?
bam698795
11-27-2007, 06:03 PM
dude that awesome! more pics!
MangoDorifto
11-27-2007, 11:36 PM
yeah the home depot by me only had the 6ft one.. did yours still go all the way around the front bumper or did you have to use 2? any side shots?
nope, it didn't go all the way around and I only bought one... side shot looks terrible, not worth posting.
GabeS14
11-28-2007, 02:16 AM
any more pics?
and maybe totall cost?
Addicted2Kouki
11-28-2007, 08:35 PM
any more pics?
and maybe totall cost?
my TOTAL cost for buying the CORRECT items... was: $9.xx [under $10]
BillyTheChamp
11-28-2007, 10:24 PM
dang.. i wished homedepot's website had it..
koukimonster139
11-28-2007, 10:26 PM
well... now we know how to get all the poor kids in one thread
yarou
11-28-2007, 10:33 PM
well... now we know how to get all the poor kids in one thread
:keke: msglength
deolio
11-28-2007, 11:34 PM
that's some hobo ingenuity right there. but i have to admit i'm tempted to try it on my s13... and my shopping cart...:coolugh:
powersteeringless180sx
11-30-2007, 01:46 AM
haha that doesn't look half bad. +1 for the effort.
SHIFT_*grind*
11-30-2007, 08:05 AM
dang.. i wished homedepot's website had it..
It's an $8 strip of garden edging. Do you really need to find it online to make your decision? =P
BillyTheChamp
11-30-2007, 08:31 AM
It's an $8 strip of garden edging. Do you really need to find it online to make your decision? =P
haha.. well i already made my decsion.. i would buy it if they had the longer one.. short one is not worth it..
DaPCWiz
11-30-2007, 08:40 AM
hmmm I may try this on my S13
Sonic Motor
11-30-2007, 08:52 AM
best ive seen is Kdashy's V3.0 HD lip on kouki. You should ask him for a pic.
Im still on V1.0 very weak sauce, but the ones you guys have looks great. But too short IMO...would be dope if you can extend it more.
Addicted2Kouki
12-12-2007, 11:38 PM
I'm resurrecting this thread because I FINALLY painted my bumper.
I gotta pick it up tomorrow because i painted it then left it in the booth.
So pictures tomorrow morning, .......on the car!
And yeah ill hit up Kdashy and ask him about his lip soon.
Addicted2Kouki
12-13-2007, 12:59 PM
Finally some pics.
Too bad the lighting was the best. but it was all i could do with this cheap digital camera.
Installed after paint w/ turn signals, sidemarkers.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/pinoylicious4you/HPIM0242.jpg
On car.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/pinoylicious4you/HPIM0244.jpg
And another one.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/pinoylicious4you/HPIM0245.jpg
Closeups.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/pinoylicious4you/HPIM0249.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/pinoylicious4you/HPIM0250.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/pinoylicious4you/HPIM0251.jpg
Yeah, it is a lil short. I may extend it by adding something to the bottom.
But still clean, simple, and subtle.
If anyone would like to see it in person, I'll be at the Autobacs/Pipeline Pizza Thursday Nite Meet tonite.
2iv0 sx
12-13-2007, 01:23 PM
Clean paint hook me up! lol
P_856
12-13-2007, 02:15 PM
damn that looks nice anybody tired it on a s13 yet
gripology
12-13-2007, 11:57 PM
It was cool to meet you tonight. that lip looks nice! as far as post above, will try this weekend on the P.O.S 13!!
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