View Full Version : Aftermarket Gauges - review/opinions
KADRIFTER
11-14-2007, 02:40 PM
Car: 96 s14 ka24de
Just curious if anyone has a recommendation of where to go (online or other) to buy aftermarket gauges - oil pressure & water temp. I have been searching the web & this site for 3 days and learned plenty but didn't see any advertiser specials or really anything that jumped out at me... Really need the water temp gauge, the oil pressure would be nice.
Looking to spend under $125 - is that even possible?
From what I understand the radiator hose adapter & gauge can be mixed & matched right? (ex: Greddy adapter w/ Autometer gauge) (yes I am a noob at this, was using stock but busted the "sender" peice)
How about this company: www.prosportgauges.com (http://www.prosportgauges.com)?
Prosport Performance - water temp: $40 w/ sender $30 for adapter
Oil Pressure: $40 w/ sender $40 for adapter
I actually haven't seen a single "reveiw thread" about gauges, just scattered posts... any opinions on below brands or others?
What I've heard:
Autometer: one of the top brands, never seen anything negative, PRICEY
DEFI: Other top brand, nothing negative, PRICEY $200+
Greddy: OK I guess, one step down from Autometer, around $170?
Prosport: Seen 1 review said they were great - cheaper
FAZE: Heard only positive, around $40 but only found them on sunpro.com
Megan: sucks, dials get stuck, unreliable - stay away
ebay: not even going to go there
Thanks for any help.
mtx450
11-14-2007, 03:18 PM
STRI's FTMFW
Tops*
11-14-2007, 03:30 PM
STRI's FTMFW
+1
I didn't even read the OP LOL.
importdude
11-14-2007, 03:48 PM
autometer and greddy cant be mixed
u have to retread the greddy adapter tho
they use diffent threads simplar but differnt
Quigs
11-14-2007, 03:55 PM
STRI's FTMFW
+1
I didn't even read the OP LOL.
+2. STRi is where it's at.
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k270/quigs9808/101_0087.jpg
(The 3 gauge holder is now painted black to match haha)
Flipzide
11-14-2007, 03:56 PM
I use prosport's oil temp gauge, water temp gauge, and oil pressure gauge.
no problems so far and customer service is quick and responsive. i can't really speak for accuracy because i've never used another gauge on my car yet.
Heres some pics...
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b222/teamrush/gauges.gif
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b222/teamrush/gaugeharness.jpg
KADRIFTER
11-14-2007, 05:53 PM
Thanks guys, those STRI's look pretty sick. You guys running x-lines or DSD?
For the price the Prosports look pretty decent.
Anyone else going to chime in?
mtx450
11-14-2007, 05:56 PM
Thanks guys, those STRI's look pretty sick. You guys running x-lines or DSD?
For the price the Prosports look pretty decent.
Anyone else going to chime in?
I just got the X-Line...Smoked face with the white LED's...so hottt
I use them on my customers cars, if you want pricing, shoot me a PM
Quigs
11-14-2007, 06:07 PM
Mine are the older DSD series. The newer ones have warning lights. I've used these gauges on three cars now...never had a problem with any of them.
Flipzide
11-14-2007, 06:07 PM
Oh, if you decide on prosports, it's best to deal with them directly.
They usually sell out of the blue lit gauges and sometimes the boost gauge and oil pressure gauge in amber.
If you want more reviews on the gauges, check out newcelica.org.
I mainly decided on mine after reading a couple threads a friend sent me from there.
LongGrain
11-14-2007, 06:10 PM
i'm running prosports on my car. boost, oil pressure, and EGT. couldnt tell ya how they work yet cuz i dont have them installed. i bought the green ones btw.
rumor has it they are as accurate as DEFI.
ixfxi
11-14-2007, 06:51 PM
http://www.trailhead4x4.com/mediac/400_0/media/VDO~Temp~2.JPG
I've been using VDO for many, many years.
Very reasonably priced, reliable, function day after day.
They dont do the fancy dance, they dont have a central brain - but they work, every fucking day, all day.
-m
mayco_86
11-14-2007, 07:36 PM
+2. STRi is where it's at.
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k270/quigs9808/101_0087.jpg
(The 3 gauge holder is now painted black to match haha)
Nice gauges now I might end up getting these.
undesiredshoe
11-14-2007, 07:43 PM
http://www.trailhead4x4.com/mediac/400_0/media/VDO~Temp~2.JPG
I've been using VDO for many, many years.
Very reasonably priced, reliable, function day after day.
They dont do the fancy dance, they dont have a central brain - but they work, every fucking day, all day.
-m
+1...i have prosport gauges and the damn needle on the oil pressure stopped doing the gay dance thing. Gonna get myself some vdo gauges.
Bushido
11-14-2007, 08:01 PM
i believe vdo makes gauges for some oem's too, if that means anything to you.
Kuzumi
11-14-2007, 08:19 PM
i dont get the point of having the guage that shows if you are rich, good or poor.... just buy a digital wideband...
Mister.E
11-14-2007, 08:31 PM
i dont get the point of having the guage that shows if you are rich, good or poor.... just buy a digital wideband...
quoted for truth. i used to run Defi BF's in my car. they are great gauges but crazy expensive. i cant really vouch for any of these other companies.
Dousan_PG
11-14-2007, 08:41 PM
ive used greddy, then defi link, then defi BF, now stack
so um...if ur buying a bunch of BFs u might as well just get a STACK
costs about the same
8130 is what i have
ixfxi
11-14-2007, 08:45 PM
i believe vdo makes gauges for some oem's too, if that means anything to you.
yes, used by BMW, Porsche and Benz
revat619
11-14-2007, 08:49 PM
ive used greddy, then defi link, then defi BF, now stack
so um...if ur buying a bunch of BFs u might as well just get a STACK
costs about the same
8130 is what i have
what did you think of the greddy gauges? I may be running some thats why.
Dousan_PG
11-14-2007, 08:51 PM
they were good
nothing bad with them
nice gauges did the job
i like white face gauges hahaha
statik
11-14-2007, 08:58 PM
i did writeup on prosports, don't recommend them, CHEAP gauges and MASSIVE sendors (the cheaper the gauge, the bigger the sendor). STRI is much better quality IMO
unicoladron
11-14-2007, 09:02 PM
save yourself a gazillion dollars and go autometer. they get the job done
/thread
Tops*
11-14-2007, 10:15 PM
I have the DSD series. I <3 them.
My friend has Defi BF's in his STi. I <3 them.
My Stri's were half the cost of my friend's Defi's.
nsn240
11-14-2007, 10:23 PM
I have Defi BFs (white imperials) but I can't justify spending that much on the gauges... They're tits and dead on accurate, and the control box is pretty cool with the max/record/playback - but its so much money!
Ive also used Stewart Warner gauges cause I know someone that works for them, and nice and a decent price
HalveBlue
11-14-2007, 10:28 PM
You gotta pay to play.
And honestly, I'd rather pay premium for a gauge set up that's been proven and reliable than spend the money on some BS Megan part.
But, these things are only used to monitor the most vital functions of your vehicle. So I may be wrong.
I decided to go with Defi White Face gauges. Haven't installed them yet.
But they look pimp just sitting in their box.
KAs14slider
11-14-2007, 11:17 PM
I really wanted to get prosports the biggest reason being their warning function is really nice. The whole gauge blinks and they have a really loud buzzer that goes off which you can turn off if you want. But thats perfect because I don't think I'll notice a little blinking led when I'm in the middle of drifting. I mean, are they really that bad. I have heard mixed reviews. It seems like either they suck (mostly just not being zeroed out) or are really good.
Quail
11-15-2007, 08:44 AM
I use Apexi EL II to monitor boost, and about to fit Defi Din Gauge to monitor Oil Temp, Water Temp, and Oil Pressure.
The Apexi is going a great job so far, Ill let you know how the Defi Din Gauge does as soon as its fitted :)
Bad picture:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/Quail/P1010098.jpg
240trainee
11-15-2007, 08:51 AM
i did writeup on prosports, don't recommend them, CHEAP gauges and MASSIVE sendors (the cheaper the gauge, the bigger the sendor). STRI is much better quality IMO
Really? I was planning on getting a couple to get me through now.
Don't want autometer because I want full sweep gauges in a small size.
Definatly not a final solution, but I don't want to drop major cash on something that I plan on upgrading later, I just haven't decided how.
Omori and Defi. Never hear bad things about them except price. If you want cheap full sweep gauges look at Isspro. They are more used in truck, industrial, and marine applications but they should work OK on the semi-cheap.
n2motorsports
11-15-2007, 09:47 AM
If you want cheap full sweep gauges look at Isspro.
key word: CHEAP
mine works for 15mins at a time, then dies.
240trainee
11-15-2007, 09:49 AM
Hmmm, bummer, I like them
garbury
11-15-2007, 10:00 AM
Never had a problem with my megan boost gauge. Granted I have no idea how accurate it is, but I've been running boost levels that should have caused issues had it been off in the wrong direction (15 psi on stock t25/fuel, 19 psi on gt2871r). But yes don't go with it, I may switch to stris once I decide to buy the whole lineup.
I have the innovate DB gauge for a wideband, that thing is decent but sometimes an LED fails to light up. Looks nice though
KADRIFTER
11-15-2007, 10:29 AM
These are great reveiws, nice to get opinions on all these thanks all. I think I'm leaning towards the STRI's but Prosports are also in the back of my mind... Just saw the advertiser special for the STRI's - seems decent.
For those with STRI water temp gauges, what adapter are you running? Does STRI make a specific adapter? Same for oil pressure. I guess I can ask the advertiser too.
mtx450
11-15-2007, 11:29 AM
These are great reveiws, nice to get opinions on all these thanks all. I think I'm leaning towards the STRI's but Prosports are also in the back of my mind... Just saw the advertiser special for the STRI's - seems decent.
For those with STRI water temp gauges, what adapter are you running? Does STRI make a specific adapter? Same for oil pressure. I guess I can ask the advertiser too.
Yes, each gauge comes with the proper senders for installation.
Since when is form over function?
CKAMC
11-15-2007, 12:57 PM
Only problem I see with Defi and Apexi guage's is if the central box goes out... then your guages dont work.
Quigs
11-15-2007, 01:52 PM
These are great reveiws, nice to get opinions on all these thanks all. I think I'm leaning towards the STRI's but Prosports are also in the back of my mind... Just saw the advertiser special for the STRI's - seems decent.
For those with STRI water temp gauges, what adapter are you running? Does STRI make a specific adapter? Same for oil pressure. I guess I can ask the advertiser too.
I'm using the STRi water temp fitting in my upper radiator hose. I think I got it from FRsport for like $40. For oil press/oil temp, I got a block adapter from Phase2Motortrend if I remember correctly.
key word: CHEAP
mine works for 15mins at a time, then dies.
I know a couple people with the Isspro's that haven't had a problem but every brand is bound to have some lemons.
If I were goin on the cheap I'd be looking at companies like Isspro, VDO, and autometer cuz they've been around. At least a company like VDO has been around for a while so you know they are in it for the long haul compared to all these other random companies that are just selling rebranded Taiwanese junk. I mean VDO is (was?) the OEM for Porsche. Hmm OEM for Porsche or flashy Taiwanese garbage?
mtx450
11-15-2007, 02:40 PM
I'm using the STRi water temp fitting in my upper radiator hose. I think I got it from FRsport for like $40. For oil press/oil temp, I got a block adapter from Phase2Motortrend if I remember correctly.
Where did you get your gauges from? The STRI's should come with the senders. The only thing my water temp gauge needed was an extra ground for the sender because it was in the rubber hose and wasn't grounded properly. The oil pressure gauge was ready to go. Thats it.
Quigs
11-15-2007, 02:57 PM
Where did you get your gauges from? The STRI's should come with the senders. The only thing my water temp gauge needed was an extra ground for the sender because it was in the rubber hose and wasn't grounded properly. The oil pressure gauge was ready to go. Thats it.
I got my gauges a while back after FRsport and Phse2 stopped carrying them in preparation for the new line of DSD's. I've got my signal wire for the water temp going to the sensor in the rad hose because I was told that is the most accurate place to have the sensor going to. The block adapter I did for ease of installation, since it was part of the oil filter relocation I did.
The gauges came with everything except for the sensor in the rad hose. Oil pressure and temp could have been done without the block adapter.
mtx450
11-15-2007, 03:00 PM
I got my gauges a while back after FRsport and Phse2 stopped carrying them in preparation for the new line of DSD's. I've got my signal wire for the water temp going to the sensor in the rad hose because I was told that is the most accurate place to have the sensor going to. The block adapter I did for ease of installation, since it was part of the oil filter relocation I did.
The gauges came with everything except for the sensor in the rad hose. Oil pressure and temp could have been done without the block adapter.
Yes, you are correct. The upper radiator hose is where the hottest coolant in your system will run thru, hence being the temp you want to know about. Did you also ground your sender for the water temp. It won't work without the proper ground when it's in the hose.
The block adapter is awesome, and works perfectly. :bigok:
Neejay
11-15-2007, 03:57 PM
I use prosport's oil temp gauge, water temp gauge, and oil pressure gauge.
no problems so far and customer service is quick and responsive. i can't really speak for accuracy because i've never used another gauge on my car yet.
Heres some pics...
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b222/teamrush/gauges.gif
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b222/teamrush/gaugeharness.jpgDude, you have go to tell me where you got that DIN holder from? Did you make it? Can you make me one? LOL This is why I need that:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v422/neejay/CIMG0799.jpg
I have 2 Prosport gauges: water temp and oil pressure. I like them, and they are perfectly viewable in the daytime.
i did writeup on prosports, don't recommend them, CHEAP gauges and MASSIVE sendors (the cheaper the gauge, the bigger the sendor). STRI is much better quality IMOReally? You are the first person Ive heard that didn't like them. My oil pressure sending unit fit just fine. It's mounted where the oem oil pressure sending unit use to be (since it's useless anyway) via an adapter. My temp sensor for the water temp gauge replaces my coolant burp hole. I had someone that knows the inside of 240sx's in and out install them (Russ).
Flipzide
11-15-2007, 04:08 PM
Dude, you have go to tell me where you got that DIN holder from? Did you make it? Can you make me one? LOL
I got impatient and didnt feel like making one and ended up buying a universal x3 52mm universal gauge din from Phase2 :loco:.
http://phase2motorsports.stores.yahoo.net/3gadinfapl.html
I recommend just finding someone that can make you a custom one.
i had to modify the plastic trim around the radio to make it sit flush with the dash. :hs:
mtx450
11-15-2007, 04:26 PM
I got impatient and didnt feel like making one and ended up buying a universal x3 52mm universal gauge din from Phase2 :loco:.
http://phase2motorsports.stores.yahoo.net/3gadinfapl.html
I recommend just finding someone that can make you a custom one.
i had to modify the plastic trim around the radio to make it sit flush with the dash. :hs:
That guy on ebay makes them....I have one, fits perfect
Quigs
11-15-2007, 04:59 PM
Or you can get the one I have in the picture on the first page. $30 from Enjuku. I think it fits the S14 as well. I got tired of the silver, so I painted it flat black and it looks so much better. Fitment is okay, but you will have to get 3/4" spacers to flush it out a bit.
And yes, my sensor is grounded. Took me a while to figure out why it wasn't working though haha.
mtx450
11-15-2007, 06:08 PM
And yes, my sensor is grounded. Took me a while to figure out why it wasn't working though haha.
Yeah, heh...took me a while too. Stupid electricity laws...:fawkd:
Bushido
11-15-2007, 11:39 PM
omori and old school HKS are where its at. black face, red illumination.
808_Drift
11-16-2007, 12:30 AM
I had all 7 Defi BF gauges in my old silvia. I loved them but wayyyy to expensive imo, and my taste has changed... i dont like all that clutter crap inside my car. This time around im going with this..
EFI main dash display
http://www.efitechnology.com/media/dashphoto.jpg
It will hook right into my EFI engine management system and be able to read just about everything from there. With this you can monitor anything and everything.
X 350GT X
11-16-2007, 01:20 AM
i also have stris. i really like them. almost have them for 3-4 months or so and not a single problem. i have the 60mms - xline - for the following: oil temp, oil pressure, water temp, fuel pressure, tach and the boost is 60mm DSD. stris comes with all mounting hardware, unlike megan. i have the smoke lense with white back lit. to me, even though the leds are white, they look blue. or white that gives a blueish hint. i got them here from a vendor. rick at ravspec. he was really cool to deal with. ill try and post pics as soon as i can find it. i know i save some pics somewhere in my comp.
Bushido
11-16-2007, 10:30 AM
has anyone taken apart one of the stri's? i want to know if it is possible to change the gauge face...
KADRIFTER
11-16-2007, 10:38 AM
Whoa, that EFI management system says $14,000 on the EFI Website!!! It is sick, don't get me wrong, but I don't know if I even have that much $$ invested in my car itself! I found a freind who had an Autometer water temp gauge sitting around (was used in a 69 SS Camaro) that I think we are going to try and wire in. It's a mchanical gauge - pretty plain, black face w/ white lettering. I'm just going to use this for now then invest more in some nicer ones a bit down the road - probably when the turbo goes in.
It's got a 3/4" thread pitch on the sender so I guess I just need to get the correct radiator hose adapter from Autometer - right?
I could probably find this by searchig (or doing it myself) but, quickly - what is the internal diameter of the stock upper radiator hose for the ka24de? I have OBX brand but it is just the stock size. Thanks.
KAs14slider
11-16-2007, 04:03 PM
so any more opinions on the prosport premiums? Are they really that bad? Anyone on here have them on their car for a long time with no problems?
Flipzide
11-16-2007, 06:02 PM
what is the internal diameter of the stock upper radiator hose for the ka24de?
i dont remember off the top of my head, but i believe it's 34mm.
prosport has the sizes set to colors so i think 34mm is right.
Quigs
11-16-2007, 11:01 PM
^ Yeah, 34mm sounds about right. It was either that or 36, but I'm pretty sure it's 34.
jackjack
11-16-2007, 11:26 PM
autometer isnt that pricey. unless you compare them to autozone/pepboy gauges.
dorkidori_s13
12-06-2007, 10:18 PM
ive used autometers...cant say im a fan...my autometer boost gauge NEVER read boost correctly (and no i didnt have vacuum leaks or the such...it was always 2-5psi off from what i was actually boosting...boost leak tested the car twice a year)...my water temp gauge stopped working after 4 months...dont know what happend to it
ive used megans...honestly...they worked ALOT better than the autometers did...read boost dead accurate (dyno proven in my car)...water temp gauge worked like a champ...first set i had i sold with my 2nd s13 hatch...second set was stolen out of my car when it was broken into a year and a half ago
after megans were stolen...went to blox gauges...biggest waste of money EVER...picked em up cause they looked neat in pics and what not...man i cant believe i even spent the money i did on em...im still kicking myself to this day...wiring was a pain in the nuts...boost gauge needle would jump all over the place...water temp gauge took FOREVER to get a reading...sold em to a friend of mine who really needed some gauges and he didnt care what they were
planning on a set of STRI gauges soon...it seems everyone has only great things to say about em...and they look like they match the S13 interior pretty well (the lighting setup i should say)
Quigs
12-07-2007, 07:55 AM
planning on a set of STRI gauges soon...it seems everyone has only great things to say about em...and they look like they match the S13 interior pretty well (the lighting setup i should say)
That's exactly why I got them. They match the s13 pretty nicely, and I too hadn't heard anything bad against them.
Pstl_pete
12-07-2007, 09:17 AM
I've had experience with Defi, Auto Meter, and STRI gauges and if I had to pick a hands down winner it would be the DEFI units. They are the quickest reacting of the bunch and overall accuray and finish is the best.
My second choice would be the AutoMeter Nexus gauges. These are NOT like any of the other AM series of gauges. They are extremely well thought out with a ton of features, my personal favorite is the warning -the entire gauge flashes red grabbing your attention quite easily. They have the typical showy features that include changing the colors on the gauges, recording the data, etc. I really like how smooth these gauges read, the STRI's for example are a more jumpy whereas the Auto Meters are very quick and smooth. Overall Im really impressed that an American company put out such good competition for the JDM stuff. Too bad they arent cool enough yet.
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/8812/gaugesos2.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5392/gauges1lm6.jpg
I just recently installed these into my Accord and Ill tell you they look the part -well they look like Defis to be exact. The sensors are small and seem to be good quality. Like I mentioned above they seem to be twitchy on small incremental movements but for the most part scroll very well. I dont like the cheap red push button to set the warning but then again they are the cheapest of the bunch so you cant expect to get everything.
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/3282/stri1gn7.jpg
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/7126/stri2qb3.jpg
I think the biggest thing that people dont realize with electrical gauges is the sensors play a key role. Thats where most companies will cut costs because no one is going to notice a cheap sensor whereas everyone will notice a cheap gauge. At the end of the day my modo is you pay for what you get.
FusionR240sx
12-07-2007, 09:32 AM
stri x-lines...
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j220/FusionR300zx/240sx/th_MOV01941.jpg (http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j220/FusionR300zx/240sx/?action=view¤t=MOV01941.flv)
xamraci
12-07-2007, 09:45 AM
I know a couple people with the Isspro's that haven't had a problem but every brand is bound to have some lemons.
If I were goin on the cheap I'd be looking at companies like Isspro, VDO, and autometer cuz they've been around. At least a company like VDO has been around for a while so you know they are in it for the long haul compared to all these other random companies that are just selling rebranded Taiwanese junk. I mean VDO is (was?) the OEM for Porsche. Hmm OEM for Porsche or flashy Taiwanese garbage?
VDO did aux. gauges for the early Audis and as previously stated, the OEM IN DASH gauges for Porsche...and they still(atleast up to 2004) do the stock gauges for ALOT of the mercedes vehicles...VDO makes some the of CLEANEST looking and well functioning gauges...
DEFIs are notorious for being 3-5 PSI off in terms of boost...OMORI gauges are the NICE-NESS but I hardly see them on the sites I look for gauges on...I have always used Autometer or VDO...VDO on all of my later projects as the autometers just lacked...and worked occasionaly
Great Source for gauges...I have probably purchased 3-4 sets of gauges from them...
http://www.egauges.com/
HalveBlue
12-07-2007, 10:08 AM
DEFIs are notorious for being 3-5 PSI off in terms of boost...[/URL]
Really?
First I've heard or read of it.
Care to elaborate?
statik
12-07-2007, 10:23 AM
Really? You are the first person Ive heard that didn't like them. My oil pressure sending unit fit just fine. It's mounted where the oem oil pressure sending unit use to be (since it's useless anyway) via an adapter. My temp sensor for the water temp gauge replaces my coolant burp hole. I had someone that knows the inside of 240sx's in and out install them (Russ).
Yeah the sendors are bulky/ugly, and the wiring is gay, post connectors? seriously? No harness for sendors, lame. Besides that, the gauges themselves feel cheap and make a noticeable tinging/rattling noise at certain RPMS from vibrations, cheap parts inside, at least the FP gauge does. The boost gauge needle is also off, when key is ON the needle sits below 0, you have to tap it to get it to sit at 0, who wants to tap a gauge every time they turn it on?
I can put up with all this for the price though, I didn't expect defi quality at 1/4th the cost. I just wouldn't recommend them unless you only had $150-200 and needed 3 gauges heh, I bought them to try them out since not many ran them.
The STRi are SOLID gauges, they don't make any noise/rattle, the gauges themselves are smaller (depth) and the casing is made out of aluminum vs cheap plastic. The sendors are about half the size of the prosport and come with all the wiring, and they are still cheap compared to defi.
xamraci
12-07-2007, 11:06 AM
Really?
First I've heard or read of it.
Care to elaborate?
Every Defi Boost gauge I have seen, read, used while helping to tune was off by atleast a few PSI, Mech and Sender...
Example 1.
My friends STI...specs on the car..04 bolt ons, Borla turbo-back, filter, tuning(300Whp 340Wtq) Running the defi boost with LINK...the ECu and ECU edit software read 18psi while t he defi would sneak and peak up to around 25-26 PSI...his ECu never read higher than 19. We hooked up the stock option gauge and it read 18-19psi, hooked up a VDO and it read 18-19 psi...Defi with link still read and showed a peak of 25psi.
Example 2.
My friends Evo...specs on the car...buscher turbo-back, HKS cams, filter, samco hoses, buscher hardpipes, buscher fmic(340whp, cant remember tq)also using an ECU edit type of software, Cable and free Dl software...the ECu and ecu displace read a certain PSi while the mech defi was reading 3-4 psi higher...
Example 3.
The friends brother had a black evo...AMS GT35 kit, HKS cams, Filter, APR(one off exhaust), and his own ecu edit software(460whp, cant remember the Tq) his mech defi read 3-4 PSI off from the ECU and another brand of gauge that read the same PSI as the ECU...
so...unless the ecu and two other brands are spot on with eachother and wrong...the defi is wrong and inaccurate. They are well made, and they look amazing...I just wont have them in any of my cars...and though I LOVE the look of them, I would rather have something accurate...especially in the case of my friends subaru STI which he was pushing to its limits on stock turbo/TMIC and race gas and the defi would read a 25psi spike and he was tuning for 19psi
The three above mentioned were all roomates of mine, all three are long time friends as well...I have spent a lot of time working with them on their cars and helping them data-log and modify their tunes accordingly...I know the scooby specs a bit better because I have known the owner of that car the longest...and he spent the most time at the appartment when we roomed together...haha
as far as I can recall...this was about a year ago before he sold the 400$ worth of Defi because it was innacurate...the boost numbers I posted are correct
BustedS13
12-07-2007, 07:38 PM
if you want pretty lights, buy that cheap, smoked lens, ebay BULLSHIT that just gets rebranded about once a month.
if you want to be in the cool kids club and spend way too much money, get yourself some expensive japanese brand gauges that will do the same as any other gauge, but cost three times more.
if you want gauges that display information without any bullshit, buy autometer.
HalveBlue
12-08-2007, 06:00 PM
Every Defi Boost gauge I have seen, read, used while helping to tune was off by atleast a few PSI, Mech and Sender...
SNIP!
Fair enough. Thanks for the heads up.
Hopefully (for me) their oil pressure and water temp gauges don't suffer from the same problems.
LoanShark
12-08-2007, 11:00 PM
I have VDO Vision series for everything. I like them. I like them a lot.
smelly240
12-09-2007, 04:46 AM
i've worked with the bf defi in multiple cars - and they're all right on... i have hks in my car...
liv2drift045
12-09-2007, 04:59 AM
never had any issues w/ my defi's, im running boost, water temp, oil temp and oil press... i will check this inaccuracy you speak of soon as i get my car back on the road (well boost at least)
blitzkrgCT9A
12-09-2007, 11:45 AM
I run AiM Sport Dash display on my race car. And they work great for the price (with all sensors of course).
http://www.evolutionmr.net/img/images/TimeAttack/Picture%20058.jpg
For my s14, I will probably run the Defi, Greddy, HKS or Apex'i gauges.. Not sure which ones yet. But I can say this, most of the Japanese brands are much more reliable than Made in Taiwan stuff that you seen on the market (Prosports, STRi and many others). STRi may look as if they are made in Japan but they actually outsource these gauges from a company based in Taiwan/China. Attend the annual AMPA show in Taipei, Taiwan and you will know what I am talking about. Not a bad gauge, but I just thought they tried a bit hard to upscale their brand. Like a Defi wanabes.
And FYI, majority of these bigger Japanese brand gauges are made by Nippon Seiki (Defi is their private label).
fromxtor
12-09-2007, 12:01 PM
To be honest I could care less where the gauge is made or how much it costs, I want it to be accurate. I just sold two Greddy gauges to buy three STRIs.
xamraci
12-09-2007, 02:23 PM
never had any issues w/ my defi's, im running boost, water temp, oil temp and oil press... i will check this inaccuracy you speak of soon as i get my car back on the road (well boost at least)
as I said...the factory ECUs in each car could be wrong(just unlikely)...every one of my cars Tach and Speedos were off and their signal came from the ECU...but I highly doubt two different manufacturers suffer the same inaccuracies...2-3lbs of boost is a pretty big deal if you are tunning from it...And none of them run Defi Gauges anymore...
I will talk to my friend Rhodes...about how his temp and pressure gauges are working out for him on his blk STI...we will hook up the ECU link software and take a few spins and see if the DEFI LINK gives us the same numbers...
I will post up with results ASAP
SIDE NOTE, I havent ran anything but MECH gauges on my PERSONAL vehicles...that includes OIL Pressure and Boost
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