-:- What do you think of flat colors? SEMA 07 loved them, but what do you think?

[widegts]

Ya,. so SEMA 07 had some flat colors like seibons suby and 350z.

WHAT DO YOU THINK? WHY? BTW Here is a picture of a car painted at my shop ... FLAT GREY basically

**** 1week job - from silver
http://www.cycloneinjapan.com/upload/files/46/IMG_0498-s.jpg

http://www.cycloneinjapan.com/upload/files/46/IMG_0503-s.jpg

[eulalia]

i love flat colors!!.. quick quesiton, does it cost just as much as a regular paint job?

[ESmorz]

It's pretty neat.

Very clean and modern looking, yet at the same time reminds me of iRobot... don't know why.

If it wasn't on a tC I'd probably like it more.

[Kn1ves]

if anyone can find me a flat red picture, that would be great. something i might think of doing if its at all possible and doesn't look like asshole

but overall i do like the flat paint look

EDIT:

All i found was this and I can't decide whether the car itself looks like ass or its the paint

http://images.tcpglobal.com/KUS/redhrftruck.jpg

[widegts]

haha, ya we charge a bit cheaper then the rest, because my over head is way lower then those typical big custom bodyshops. I dont want to sound like im advertising, so ill just make a post on zilvia on the fs section.

I MADE THIS THREAD TO TRY TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE THINK OF THEM? BECAUSE I AM THINKING OF STARTING TO RUN A DEAL ON THESE PAINT. I CAN MAKE A POLL, BUT I RATHER HAVE RESPONSES AND REASONS,...

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as for the procedure, its the same as the normal paint job. A bit easier though, just the mixture is different, and the preparation and technique in shooting is bit confusing.

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Knives, pm me i have a picture of a red for ya....

[projectdrifter]

i dont mind flat colors that much. altho i think the flat black is getting played out.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Do you guys use clearcoat on them? Thats the part thats kinda iffy, I was told you can put a coat of Matte Clear coat on it (basically non-glossy) to protect the paint.

[widegts]

flip - the process is the same


GLOSSY PAINT
- BASE COAT / CLEAR COAT


FLAT
- BASE COAT / *FLAT* CLEAR (same clear w/ special additives to make it flat when it dries)

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as you shoot it, it is wet like normal clear, but in the end when it dries... POOOF! done flat

[eastcoastS14]

yeah i love em....i think it depends on the car tho...done on the wrong car it can make it look pretty ghetto IMO

i made a thread about them a while ago....im sure its around somewhere

[widegts]

EASTCOAST- ahahahaha! your sig is funny!!!!!

[widegts]

ya that is true tho, you cannot do flat with cars that dont have to many bodylines i think. If you have a beetle, i think itll look ugly...

but if you have a suby, or a s14, like a fellow zilvia member here i sold a hood to... he has a blue one... it looks flat.... anyone know his sig? i forgot

[BustedS13]

can you wax a base/clear flat job the same as a regular one? i think PROFESSIONALLY SPRAYED flat paint jobs look AWESOME. rattlecan always looks like shit, though.

[Vision Garage]

Not a fan. But to each his own. Flat to me just seems cheap. Sorry

[DRavenS13]

It looks nice, but to me, there's nothing better than a shiny car after it's been freshly washed.

[widegts]

im a painter who does flat, hok, and all that...

as for flat, I LOVE GLOSS! THE SHINE! THE GLIMMER, GLASS FINISH...

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AS FOR WAX, YA, U CAN DO IT ALL TO A FLAT COLOR, just like you would ot a glossy....

[widegts]

im thinkin of giving premies a deal on these flat colors. Another maybe flat carbon? what do u think guys?

[Matej]

If SEMA '07 loved them then they're played out. :keke:

[BustedS13]

im thinkin of giving premies a deal on these flat colors. Another maybe flat carbon? what do u think guys?

do it, post prices. i'm repainting my hatch this winter.

[CAPTAINNEO]

ken blocks cls55 was at sema last year...i thought that was dope.

http://media.socialurl.com/photo/87/1987/4057/284333_large.jpg

http://media.socialurl.com/photo/87/1987/4057/284334_large.jpg


keep us posted on the Premie Hookup!

[widegts]

wow, thats a clean assssssssss baller car!!!

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ya so for you non-premies, support zilvia and become a premie, because these deals will only be for premies. Deals for any paint, from flat, to gloss, to recleared hoods, etc...

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anyone here a painter? im good, but i would like to hear some lil pointers that you have learned. Like,...

- I have learned, painting in a non-spray booth, getting bugs are a bitch, so having tape is your friend to get them off safely without messn up the paint job

- wetting the floor 1hour before minimizes dust more then wetting 10min before painting.

[RiversideS13]

i think flat color only appeal to car maniacs, for people who are not into cars or do not know about cars, they will think you have discount paint. But i am wondering how was it like in car show competition?

[widegts]

I would think that in competition, you would get less points compared to someone who has a glass finish paint job. It takes more work to do a glass finish paint job, then flat most of the time.

then again, POLITICS!, i hate car show judging...! I remember recently a car we did should of won 1st place at a show, but didnt because the one judging him didnt like midnight garage, who is a friend of mine who helps me at the shop. So this judge, saw that sticker, and we lost....

HAHAHAH but owell, win some, lose some...

[Andrew Bohan]

after seeing all those flat cars at sema IN PERSON, i'll have to say i'm not into it.
it looks like plastic.

black, red, blue, green, they had lots of flat colors. all look like unfinished plastic.

[widegts]

Andrew - that is true, what do you think of like a two tone type thing, where someone paints the bottum gloss black and flat black top..??

[Andrew Bohan]

that makes it look way better, but still meh. i think flat is ok if it's a little bit here and there, but then plastic is okay if it's like that too.

[widegts]

cool cool..

andrew - whats is that o your sig? a company of yours?

[Andrew Bohan]

yeah. my vinyl company. site's not done yet though, so no link :hs:

[widegts]

hehe, tight tight! maybe you can cut me a deal on some idesigns stickers, hehe they are two tone, orange and white. 6'' x 3'', around that size....

[Andrew Bohan]

sure. send me a pm with all the details, etc

[ALEXTHESUS*PECT]

flats cool, so long as it's not black. just looks primered. i'm surprised mesilvia hasn't posted here. his car looks super clean!

[widegts]

OK I WILL when i get the exact measurements

[fromxtor]

I love satin paint jobs, on certain cars. I will be painting mine satin w/ satin clear. I wish I was on the west coast so I could take you up on this. :(

[DreamN]

I don't mind some flat or satin paint jobs. I've actually contemplated doing a satin black paint job to my s13 coupe. Saw it on an R32 Coupe and it was just so freakin' clean that I immediately fell in love with it.

[0100]

I love flat paint jobs.


http://www.supercars.net/gallery/119513/883/401411.jpg
http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/3058814c.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d161/clzay/matteblack.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2344000-2344999/2344146_12_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2344000-2344999/2344146_2_full.jpg
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/4033/img3956ja5.jpg
http://www.tyresmoke.net/albums/iaa2005/Z4_Coupe_Front.sized.jpg
http://www.tyresmoke.net/albums/iaa2005/Z4_Coupe_Rear_Profile_Angle.sized.jpg
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m218/serebo1/Serebo1_show.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a218/ZJChaser/2007-02-10%20California%20Speedway%20Time%20Attack/IMG_9265copy.jpg
http://www.superstreetonline.com/featuredvehicles/130_0311_03z+Skunk2_Honda_EP3_Civic_Si+Front_Left_ Side_View.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/chucchinchilla/flatblackporsche.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/111/288400265_0c72ec8229_b.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f195/phunkshon3/z35.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f195/phunkshon3/z37.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f185/vdubbin21/246.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/182/397920090_e3f833195f_b.jpg
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/313/b2e8c1fc20016jt6.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k26/jspecv20/DSC01763.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k26/jspecv20/B2E8C1FC201190.jpg
http://www.rauh-welt.com/RWB-964GT-R.jpg

[fromxtor]

^^ Fucking right

[kyoru]

flat paint is the shit, I can't remember what car show it was but there was a flat black phantom with flat grey for the chrome pieces, hot shit.
http://gallery.modifiedle.com/gallery2/main.php/d/59833-1/Genf07-0074_prv.jpg

[240trainee]

Yea, I like it, have for a while, pro flat jobs look amazing.

Contemplating painting my car a satin, really not sure though

[BPMKA24DE]

0100 NICE PIX!

SOoooo sexy!!!!!

i been all over flat paint for about a year now! didnt check how much cost but im sure its not cheap :/
i wanna paint my next ae86 flat white, what you think?
and the 240 that im getting gunmetal flat with bronze rims!

they pritty pricy but they worth it!

lol some ppl (morons) would say "O so when you gonna paint it?"

[fromxtor]

^^ Pretty funny though that Grant's Sil-80 is up there...it's rattle canned. :keke:

[illvialuver]

yeah they are cool but the pic of the two ferrarris the black glossy one and the flat one, the glossy one looked better. but i think when it is not parked next to a car of the same make and same color flat looks good.

[Tops*]

I love flat paint jobs.
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f195/phunkshon3/z37.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f185/vdubbin21/246.jpg


I <3 flat paint. I don't think all cars can pull it off though.

The 6 series looks like shit...and baller status steelies...

[widegts]

omg! im going to do my car like half / half... gloss w/ flat top. Maybe like HOK Cynder red bottom, and Black sand pearl flat top... hmmm

[JesusFreakDrifter]

flat and satin finish paint products are more expensive then just regular paint, because there is no such thing as a low grade flat paint job. i work at a paint store.

and flat only looks good on some cars like the s15 on other cars it just looks like primer, depending upon the color.

[widegts]

jesus - u are right, depending on the base coat, the flat color may look beautiful, and in the rest... like crapola. So the base coat makes a big difference...

[Blotter]

That's sexy.

use no metallic paint, and a matte clear. put an extra coat of that clear on, then wet sand the whole car to get rid of the orange peel and dirt. buff the car.
It'll look amazing.

[Z_Spool]

I've always dug it and have planned on doing it for some time now... I should be doing mine by the end of the year. I've debated on a few colors and now I think I'm set. Just need to drag my car down to the shop and start cracking.

[usajdm]

http://www.tcpglobal.com/kustomshop/ksflatz.aspx

When it comes to "flats", this is the best shit we've ever used and weve been using them long before this import scene started to play them out.

[ThatGuy]

Flat paint is alright, I suppose.
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6261/35481920pe5.jpg
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[silviaguy240]

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e210/silviaguy240/437.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e210/silviaguy240/SLR__by_1224Sky.jpg

[jackjack]

looks good imo. i like it.

[fromxtor]

^^ Thats why I wish ppl would differentiate between flat and satin. The look in question is satin it was a sheen to it where flat has no gloss at all.

[mehsilvia]

Flat Black

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t282/mehsilvia/Exterior/IMG_1455.jpg

Flat Blue

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t282/mehsilvia/NASA/Blue/IMG_4496.jpg
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t282/mehsilvia/NASA/Blue/IMG_4298.jpg


The two Flatz i used are both from Kustom Shop that usajdm posted
The black was mistaken for primer a lot of the time. Kinda pissed me off.
The Daytona Blue that i picked up is a Flat Pearl, so there is a metallic silver flake mixed into it. Not your average dull "plastic" look.
And the paint and clear both have flat agents mixed into them.

And that Subie up above copied me.


btw widegts, still lovin my hood :bigok:

[Squirrel82]

So if you get dirt in the satin or flat clear, can it be wetsanded and buffed without changing the gloss?

[ThatGuy]

It's just like glossy paint, only without the gloss. The process and methods are the same, just no gloss.

[usajdm]

Hey mehsilvia...........
Did you spray it yourself?
If so what did you think about the "new stuff"?
It definitly has made getting this look easier.

[mehsilvia]

Hey mehsilvia...........
Did you spray it yourself?
If so what did you think about the "new stuff"?
It definitly has made getting this look easier.

Yeah the newer stuff mixes a lot better. I had an issue with the first batch of Daytona Blue that i received. The flat agent didnt mix for shit and the color was glossy and looked like crap.
They sent me a new kit and it turned out awesome. Key to this paint is to mix the shit out of it, and definately between coats.

[timlush]

Anyone got anything flat WHITE?

[Helghast]

Flat is alright, but Satin is better.

Most of the stuff you guys posted is Satin.
Like that Black Wide S15.

Satin is smooth to touch, and looks much more "done"

[SimpleS14]

I like satin more than flat. That Z4 Coupe is HOT....I would love to paint my car like that.

[firelizard]

Maybe I'm missing something here, but wetsanding and buffing flat paint? wtf?

[Antihero983]

if anyone plans on going flat, get it done by someone good! i did ok spraybombing mine, but i wish i had it doen right the first time...here's osme pics of the first day it was painted.....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/redevilrps13/paintjobpics015.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/redevilrps13/paintjobpics014.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/redevilrps13/paintjobpics013.jpg

......ignore the damaged driver's side fender.

[motorsnail]

Maybe I'm missing something here, but wetsanding and buffing flat paint? wtf?

Its the same as other paint its just not "shiny" why wouldnt it be the same? The "color" is just a flat "color" yo........

[max2damax]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/redevilrps13/paintjobpics014.jpg


......ignore the damaged driver's side fender.

Kind of hard man.:2f2f:

[B18C5MK1]

my gf's bro and i just finished up his z. yes, it was flat black before... we just decided to redo it. give it some freshness.

i still have no clue how the towels got rotated?!
http://a685.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/60/l_9c325ff54375b2e5da2716f61367f954.jpg

[OurOnePassion]

A lot of those aren't flat. They're semi-flat or semi-gloss. Whatev.

There's a thing on this honda forum (http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1512837&page=5) about it.






Mind you, I didn't read all this thread. But this honda-tech one explained a bit on the processes and such. What with clearcoats and stuff.

[widegts]

ouronepassion - that is true, flat paint is a bit different. IT IS the same as regular 2stage paint jobs, but the clear is flat. A certain amount of grams of a special addative mixed into the clear. Some can try to make the similar look with semi-gloss, but w/ these flat paints, U CAN WETSAND THE PANELS and it will wetsand just like regualr paints...

I can be in depth about it, but then again, i dont want to put to much info, if you have any questions feel free to ask...

[bboyswoosh87]

I want to see flat red painted 240's done by a professional like this toy model

http://www.idcow.net/idcow/products/24jd2016.jpg

[ESmorz]

I think the last thing I'd ever do is let WideGTS or any of his affiliates touch my cars.

:keke:

[SexPanda]

ouronepassion - that is true, flat paint is a bit different. IT IS the same as regular 2stage paint jobs, but the clear is flat. A certain amount of grams of a special addative mixed into the clear. Some can try to make the similar look with semi-gloss, but w/ these flat paints, U CAN WETSAND THE PANELS and it will wetsand just like regualr paints...

I can be in depth about it, but then again, i dont want to put to much info, if you have any questions feel free to ask...
so if its just the clear coat... If I took my car to get recleared (which I am eventually), they could make it flat green?

That would be the shit...

[Brian]

Flat colors are for those who are too embarassed that they can't afford a real paint job.

[CrimsonRockett]

I think the last thing I'd ever do is let WideGTS or any of his affiliates touch my cars.

:keke:


:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

QFT!!!

Hahahahahaha

[!Zar!]

THE only cars that I would allow myself to say look good would be the Rough World silvia and posche. That is it.

Everything else is dirt. Defies the whole point of trying to have nice paint.

[ESmorz]

Cars with super sexy curves look good with flat paint.

Everything else looks very meh.

[bboyswoosh87]

[QUOTE=Brian;2379520]Flat colors are for those who are too embarassed that they can't afford a real paint job

I respect your opinion. I just happen to like flat colors.

[Agamemnon]

Thread back from the dead!

[BustedS13]

I think the last thing I'd ever do is let WideGTS or any of his affiliates touch my cars.

:keke:


ruh rohhhhh

[ESmorz]

Wood Screw

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii246/CrimsonRockett/DSCF0318.jpg

... :keke:

This is my favorite Satin paint job.

http://unsportsmanlikecomment.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/the-satan-pit-doctor-beast3.jpg

:bowrofl::mepoke:

[C. Senor]

i still think flat colors should be left to rat rods and sleds. but to each his own. some cars can pull it off, some cars can't. i'm more of a regular color kind of person.

[BustedS13]

wait, did wideGTS have something to do with that z33 murder?

[ESmorz]

wait, did wideGTS have something to do with that z33 murder?

Everything to do with it.

"I want my MY Z33 back"

http://blogs.indiewire.com/thelostboy/angelina-jolie-changeling1.jpg


:yum:

[BustedS13]

wow. just read the scam thread

what a douchebag

[Future240]

I dont like flat colors. IMO a paint job should be so glossy its like a mirror