B&M Short shifter

[kidcrossover69]

Are B&M short shifters worth getting?

[smurfgcr]

you really should search before asking a question as simple as this, happy flaming...

[SochBAT]

Yes. I had one for the longest time.

Shorter throws, really tight and precise, gained confidence in knowing its in there, and is going to stay there.

Buy it new, or Cosmo EBay Special.

Oh yea.

V1 = vibrating problem.

V2 = Solved problem, GOLDEN.

[qwikspool]

yes its worth it if you like precise shifting. for me its a lot better than stock.

[kidcrossover69]

Yes. I had one for the longest time.

Shorter throws, really tight and precise, gained confidence in knowing its in there, and is going to stay there.

Buy it new, or Cosmo EBay Special.

Oh yea.

V1 = vibrating problem.

V2 = Solved problem, GOLDEN.

what you mean by a vibrating problem?
how is it when its over 5,000 rpm?

[kidcrossover69]

yes its worth it if you like precise shifting. for me its a lot better than stock.

how long have you had yours for?

[ms!3]

worth every penny.

[SochBAT]

at higher RPMS, it would vibrate, but it was minute.

Nothin crazy.

The only people that complain about the noise are a buncha fruits anyways.

Get one, get happy.

PS. Lucas oil stabilizer.

[chuy]

at higher RPMS, it would vibrate, but it was minute.

Nothin crazy.

The only people that complain about the noise are a buncha fruits anyways.

Get one, get happy.

PS. Lucas oil stabilizer.


That just lets you know that it is almost time to shift.

One thing no one has said is that they are "notchy"

[SochBAT]

Notchy = Precise and Tight.

[kidcrossover69]

Notchy = Precise and Tight.

oh okay about the oil is it necessay?

[SochBAT]

Not necessary, but always a plus.

Tranny feels like new. Keeps em lubed nicely.

Do it.

[kidcrossover69]

Not necessary, but always a plus.

Tranny feels like new. Keeps em lubed nicely.

Do it.

aight ill do that just pour it in
through the shifter right?

[qwikspool]

i had it for more than a year.

[kidcrossover69]

i had it for more than a year.

and its still giving precise shifting?

[SochBAT]

When its tight, its right.

It NEVER gets sloppy.

NEVER.

Had mine for about a year and a few months.

[kidcrossover69]

When its tight, its right.

It NEVER gets sloppy.

NEVER.

Had mine for about a year and a few months.

how much did you get yours for?

[snappy]

I was looking at getting one, and had heard about the V1 causing problems- but all the people I've talked with at race shops haven't heard about V1 and V2. They said there's no difference in the product number or visually on the box.

Apparently as long as you buy one that was manufactured between 2006-now should be V2.

[s13silvia03]

Version II was pretty much made to reduce the minor rattling at high RPM's. Version I also came with the B&M shift knob IIRC. Also, I've had my B&M on my s13 for about 1.5 years now, smooth and precise still.

[kidcrossover69]

I was looking at getting one, and had heard about the V1 causing problems- but all the people I've talked with at race shops haven't heard about V1 and V2. They said there's no difference in the product number or visually on the box.

Apparently as long as you buy one that was manufactured between 2006-now should be V2.

So did you end up getting one after all?
the v1 and v2 are the models they have on the b&M shifter, cause im lost
on that part.

[kidcrossover69]

Version II was pretty much made to reduce the minor rattling at high RPM's. Version I also came with the B&M shift knob IIRC. Also, I've had my B&M on my s13 for about 2 years now, smooth and precise still.

does the version II come with the shift knob as well and are both ver. the same price?

[s13silvia03]

Version II does not come with a knob, I'm not sure on the prices nowadays, but when I bought mine I think it was around $150 or so, but again, that was awhile ago.

[kidcrossover69]

Version II does not come with a knob, I'm not sure on the prices nowadays, but when I bought mine I think it was around $150 or so, but again, that was awhile ago.

the one you had got was the first version?

[s13silvia03]

Version II .

[kidcrossover69]

Version II .

oh ok and ver II doesnt have that much of a vibration no more does it?

[Monkey Boy]

v1 v2 doesn't matter get any one. i got v1 and the vibration is not that crazy as it sounds. it vibrates as it revs, personally i like it. i think i had mines for over 2 years so far.

[s13silvia03]

oh ok and ver II doesnt have that much of a vibration no more does it?

You still get slight rattling, but its only at high RPMs. If you're driving on the street, I doubt you'll even rev the engine that high (normal driving not driving like a douche and redlining every gear). If you're at the track, there's so much other shit going on, I doubt you would even notice the sound.

[kidcrossover69]

You still get slight rattling, but its only at high RPMs. If you're driving on the street, I doubt you'll even rev the engine that high (normal driving not driving like a douche and redlining every gear). If you're at the track, there's so much other shit going on, I doubt you would even notice the sound.

ok i see, so what site can i get the ver II B&M shifter?

[s13silvia03]

You should be able to get it at any site (Most of the vendors on the site will probably be able get it for you)or store that sells B&M parts. You don't really have to specify Version II, I'm sure the first version is out of production so all shifters will be the Version II.

[kidcrossover69]

You should be able to get it at any site (Most of the vendors on the site will probably be able get it for you)or store that sells B&M parts. You don't really have to specify Version II, I'm sure the first version is out of production so all shifters will be the Version II.

oh ok coo ill do that thanxs

[kidcrossover69]

thanxs for all your help. going out to the people that gave me helpful
knwledge about the B&M short shifter. Cant wait to have one myself
just ordered it off optionimports and has a 1 million mile warranty, hell of a deal.

[SochBAT]

Mike @ OptionImports is a cool guy.

[kidcrossover69]

I saw some circuit sport and megan ver. II shifter,
are those any good? j/w.

[s13silvia03]

I saw some circuit sport and megan ver. II shifter,
are those any good? j/w.

I'd imagine they're about the same quality as the eBay short shifters that come with the transmission plate. Personally, I hate Megan shit with a passion and would never put Megan racing anything on my car, don't really care how minuscule of a part it would be. Can't really say anything about Circuit Sports as I'm not too too familiar with they're stuff. I'm sure they're are others though that like 'em.


My $0.02, like I said, others may think different.

[kidcrossover69]

I'd imagine they're about the same quality as the eBay short shifters that come with the transmission plate. Personally, I hate Megan shit with a passion and would never put Megan racing anything on my car, don't really care how minuscule of a part it would be. Can't really say anything about Circuit Sports as I'm not too too familiar with they're stuff. I'm sure they're are others though that like 'em.


My $0.02, like I said, others may think different.

ok i hear you, so basically there just knock offs
of b&m shifters and doesnt have the quality of b&m,
but probably doesnt make the vibration b&m gives.
im still worried about that vibration, so how far up into
the rpm does it start vibrating.

[5t341tH]

i have the ebay version of the v2 and its great. precise as my frends b&m but maybe not quite as good. the only shake i get is because my tranny mount is old. but that doesnt happen unless im driving on a bumpy road

[kidcrossover69]

i have the ebay version of the v2 and its great. precise as my frends b&m but maybe not quite as good. the only shake i get is because my tranny mount is old. but that doesnt happen unless im driving on a bumpy road

oh okay and how much did you pay
for yours?

[Flipzide]

Eh? Who cares about vibrations. If you run coils or an LSD, you'll get more noises so who cares.

B&M for 3 years strong and I love it. You won't regret buying the B&M...ever.

[statik]

dont bother with the megan/ebay b&m style shifters, you will have to replace the bushings on the shifter as soon as you get it for one, and they also leak from the top of the shifter where it goes through the plate (b&m gives you a boot that goes over this). Also i noticed the side-to-side movement in the knock offs is not as tight.

[burnsauto]

ive had my b&m for little over a year now, still one of the best shifters i've ever felt, on any vehicle.

guy i work with got a knockoff b&m in his 91 coupe....def. not up to par with the shift quality.

i picked mine up for around 170 (new on ebay)

[kidcrossover69]

thats good to know, the new things
i learn about certain things i wanna
know is done on zilvia. thanxs you guys.

[sncs14]

I've had my Ver. 1 B&M for over four years and 80K miles. Yeah it rattles a little at higher RPMs, but the throw is short and precise, just the way it should be. My friend has an Ebay version that's newer and he still likes mine a lot better.

[qwikspool]

yeah it rattles on high rpm but it dont bother me.

[SixSpeedSleuth]

I've had B&M shifters in both of my Pignose Hatches. Best shifter I've ever had in any car period! Tight as a virgin shifts, solid as hell. If you miss a shift with this shifter, you just suck ass at shifting. As far as the rattling, I've heard that the older ones do, but neither of mine have rattled. FWIW, I run GM Syncromesh Friction Modified tranny fluid in the gear box, smooth as silk.

[unicoladron]

you can be mad tyte jdm and get a c's shifter which are apparently the best short shifters in japan.

EDIT: found on rhdjapan's website(they rock!):

https://www.rhdjapan.com/home/products/product_details.php?int_product_id=3085#

[kidcrossover69]

I've had B&M shifters in both of my Pignose Hatches. Best shifter I've ever had in any car period! Tight as a virgin shifts, solid as hell. If you miss a shift with this shifter, you just suck ass at shifting. As far as the rattling, I've heard that the older ones do, but neither of mine have rattled. FWIW, I run GM Syncromesh Friction Modified tranny fluid in the gear box, smooth as silk.

which version do you have
and where can u by that fluid?

[kidcrossover69]

you can be mad tyte jdm and get a c's shifter which are apparently the best short shifters in japan.

EDIT: found on rhdjapan's website(they rock!):

https://www.rhdjapan.com/home/products/product_details.php?int_product_id=3085#


do you own a c's shifter if so
how are they is it better then b&m?
Basically they just rock in japan not in the U.S.A do they?
im thinking b&m is the c's shifter in the U.S

[Rasty180SX]

do you own a c's shifter if so
how are they is it better then b&m?
Basically they just rock in japan not in the U.S.A do they?
im thinking b&m is the c's shifter in the U.S


C's are no longer available in Japan. Luckily, I found a USED C's short shifter on Yahoo Auction. I've had it for a year now and it works fine :-/

[jsuh s14]

i have a b&m shortshifter in my s14, and i gotta say I LOVE IT.. such precise shifting, and the throws are so short and solid... feels like a brand new built tranny. no problems grinding, SUPER easy install. only complain i have about it is that the left and right play is too stiff... but WORTH EVERY PENNY

[kidcrossover69]

C's are no longer available in Japan. Luckily, I found a USED C's short shifter on Yahoo Auction. I've had it for a year now and it works fine :-/

oh the c's shifter are discontinued and can only be bought used
only. its all good because i just purchased a b&m short shifter.

[kidcrossover69]

i have a b&m shortshifter in my s14, and i gotta say I LOVE IT.. such precise shifting, and the throws are so short and solid... feels like a brand new built tranny. no problems grinding, SUPER easy install. only complain i have about it is that the left and right play is too stiff... but WORTH EVERY PENNY

ya fo real my friend has one and i was just going through
the gears and it has a big difference from stock.

[unicoladron]

do you own a c's shifter if so
how are they is it better then b&m?
Basically they just rock in japan not in the U.S.A do they?
im thinking b&m is the c's shifter in the U.S

kidcrossover,

i put a link to rhdjapan.com in my post. I THINK i have one haha, i posted a few pics in the "identify this" and some board members were pretty sure it was a C's. it came with my front clip. and i love it. probably the same as B&M. but if you go with C's you can save a couple bucks that can go to something else.

[JesusFreakDrifter]

i bought my s14 with the ebay crap style v1 short shifter, and its awful, i can't feel the shortness in the throws. its sits loosly. and sometimes i shift into 5th gear from 1st. its rattles all the time. and unscrews under hard shifting from 3rd to 2nd or vice versa, i seriously want one, if anyone want they can sell me one for 150 or under shipped i'd be cool with that :D

[Dream240]

Just so you guys know, B & M only produces the newest version now, which eliminates the vibration at high rpms. But be wary of used or even alot of eBay sellers that are selling them for a lower price.

Most likely you're getting old ver. 1 stock, that will vibrate. The part numbers are the same. The box looks different though.

The newer ones have a short shifter for a Mustang on the front, don't know why. The older version actually has the 240 shifter on the box. You will usually see the older versions going for around 150-175. The newest versions should sell for about 200-225.

I ended up getting a ver. 1 for around $150, I am going to sell it and buy my Bro's ver. 2 from him. Mainly cause the vibration is distracting when you're concentrating on driving. But the shifting is top notch, nice and tight. Also the shifter boot has a tendancy to tear on the back end due to rubbing on the inside mount. No biggie, still doesn't leak and you can get an OEM boot for 7 bucks to replace it.

[celica3sgte94]

its very very very worth getting it. my friend has it and its very nice i just placed an order for it too so i should be getting it very soon

[highoctane]

I got the version 1 in my dd s14 for over 3 yrs now. It was night and day difference from the old sloppy shifter. Recommend changing the tranny fluid when you put the new shifter in, because when i installed the b&m with that existing fluid that in there from the previous owner. It was kinda tough to engage in gear, but with new mt90, it was a lot lot better. The rather don't bother me, just remind me it's about time to shift. But when i autox, with concentrating and exhaust noise and all. I don't even notice the rattling.

Just picked up another b&m for another s14 that m putting together and i guess it is a new version since it doesn't come with a knob. It shipped directly from b&m so it must be version 2.

[Lordrandall]

I LOVE mine.

[cruque]

I've been having mine's for 2 years still feels like new. I don't know what's v1, v2 but about the vibration at low rpm's you don't feel it but pass 4 you don't feel it as much as you hear it.

[kidcrossover69]

Just so you guys know, B & M only produces the newest version now, which eliminates the vibration at high rpms. But be wary of used or even alot of eBay sellers that are selling them for a lower price.

Most likely you're getting old ver. 1 stock, that will vibrate. The part numbers are the same. The box looks different though.

The newer ones have a short shifter for a Mustang on the front, don't know why. The older version actually has the 240 shifter on the box. You will usually see the older versions going for around 150-175. The newest versions should sell for about 200-225.

I ended up getting a ver. 1 for around $150, I am going to sell it and buy my Bro's ver. 2 from him. Mainly cause the vibration is distracting when you're concentrating on driving. But the shifting is top notch, nice and tight. Also the shifter boot has a tendancy to tear on the back end due to rubbing on the inside mount. No biggie, still doesn't leak and you can get an OEM boot for 7 bucks to replace it.

where can i get the boot from man and why wont you just give me the one your buying off your bro and ill give u my stock. ha oh and on optionimports they sale ver II right cause thats where i ordered mine just wanted to know if u can clarify that for me. thanxs

its very very very worth getting it. my friend has it and its very nice i just placed an order for it too so i should be getting it very soon
fo real where did u place your order on?

I got the version 1 in my dd s14 for over 3 yrs now. It was night and day difference from the old sloppy shifter. Recommend changing the tranny fluid when you put the new shifter in, because when i installed the b&m with that existing fluid that in there from the previous owner. It was kinda tough to engage in gear, but with new mt90, it was a lot lot better. The rather don't bother me, just remind me it's about time to shift. But when i autox, with concentrating and exhaust noise and all. I don't even notice the rattling.

nice man mt90 is gear oil right.

Just picked up another b&m for another s14 that m putting together and i guess it is a new version since it doesn't come with a knob. It shipped directly from b&m so it must be version 2.
so basically the one that doesnt come with a knob is ver 2 right?

I've been having mine's for 2 years still feels like new. I don't know what's v1, v2 but about the vibration at low rpm's you don't feel it but pass 4 you don't feel it as much as you hear it.

v1 and v2 are the versions they made on b&m ver 1 rattles then fix the problem when they released ver 2.

I LOVE mine.
i soon will be loving mines too when it comes 2mororw

i bought my s14 with the ebay crap style v1 short shifter, and its awful, i can't feel the shortness in the throws. its sits loosly. and sometimes i shift into 5th gear from 1st. its rattles all the time. and unscrews under hard shifting from 3rd to 2nd or vice versa, i seriously want one, if anyone want they can sell me one for 150 or under shipped i'd be cool with that :D
dayum that sucks ill sell u my stock one and just customize it for you for 100 bucks.

[initial_drifter]

I just picked one up from here http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=145653

Tyler still has the deal going on. I just got mine a couple days ago and I must say a combo with my Dildo Shiftknob and a B&M is the sex :)

[Ninjabread]

I have a megan racing B&M style shifter.

Feels notchy and gross. Rattles above 2k rpm. Also afraid it might be screwing my tranny up.

I'm reverting back to stock.

[kidcrossover69]

I have a megan racing B&M style shifter.

Feels notchy and gross. Rattles above 2k rpm. Also afraid it might be screwing my tranny up.

I'm reverting back to stock.

fo real thats because its a megan one you got not the
actual b&m.

[kidcrossover69]

I just picked one up from here http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=145653

Tyler still has the deal going on. I just got mine a couple days ago and I must say a combo with my Dildo Shiftknob and a B&M is the sex :)

did u end up getting ver II though?

[Ninjabread]

fo real thats because its a megan one you got not the
actual b&m.

Yea, I know. But I felt a real b&m, and to be honest it wasn't that much different other than the fact that it didn't rattle.

[stillen]

Does the B&M short shifter reduce the height of the shifter or is it the same height as the OEM shifter? And if it does by how much. I Just don't want my shift boot to look wrinkled. Thanks.

[hustlervibes]

C's if you can find one.

[Flipzide]

Does the B&M short shifter reduce the height of the shifter or is it the same height as the OEM shifter? And if it does by how much. I Just don't want my shift boot to look wrinkled. Thanks.

No, the shifter stays the same height. Short refers to the throw, not the height of the shifter.

[initial_drifter]

did u end up getting ver II though?

sorry for such a late reply,

Yes I did get the Ver. 2 :coolugh:

[ImpatientS14]

Did anyone have any issues installing theirs? Mine wouldn't find in the notch with the B&M plastic ring. So I had to pull that one off and replace it with the ring on my OEM shifter.

[fromxtor]

anyone know if there would be a problem w/ one of these and a 3" shifter extension?

[MrChow]

Question how much shorter of a throw is it?
Like 10 being stock and 1 is like you moved it a inch.

[BattleRoyale]

the difference is between stock and the b&m shifter is like night and day, its shifts are shortened by at least 40%

my ver. II still rattles like hell, had some issues with it going into first and reverse, and with the white bushing not lining up

currently running the old sloppy oem shifter. I ordered new oem bushings to put on the B&M shifter and see it it eliminates some of my problems

if it doesn't i'm pretty sure its cuz my trans is hella old

[SochBAT]

Think about it this way.

OEM = Wiggle Dick. Wiggles like hell in gear.

B&M = Tight Anal. Stays put in gear and out of gear.

MrChow. I'd say about a 2. The throws are RETARDEDLY short compared to stock. It takes a bit to get used to, but its golden when you're adapted to it.

Fromxtor, i ALWAYS read your name as FOXTOR. Dnno why. But i had that setup for like, a week. Felt really nice, close to stock throw, but really precise. If you like the current throw length, do it. But I took it off because i liked it really short.

Go figure. An asian guy liking it short. Haha. I'm too damn comfortable with myself.

[slow40sx]

200 dollars well spent don't get whack ass knock off shit it isn't the same B&M is the way to go