View Full Version : SS clutch lines and drift buttons!!
NemeGuero
10-31-2007, 06:29 PM
Does someone make a complete SS clutch line that replaces the hardline and the soft line? (I deleted the damper box so I don't care about that ish)
or does someone know what end fittings to use so I can just make one?
and secondly... who has a drift button and wants to give me measurements?
Inner and outer Diameters and length.
And before anyone says anything, I have free access to a machine shop and free aluminum stock so its free to make for me.
k's_silvia2.0
10-31-2007, 06:31 PM
i can measure tonight but hook it up with a Neme prototype.
JesusFreakDrifter
10-31-2007, 06:32 PM
i've seen some ss hardlines only sold on ebay with a master cylinder, i know of someone with that setup on an rx7, no probs yet
NemeGuero
10-31-2007, 06:32 PM
f'sho!!
you get me those measurements and I'll make you one free. Just pay chipping.
i've seen some ss hardlines only sold on ebay with a master cylinder, i know of someone with that setup on an rx7, no probs yet
what? I want to know where I can buy a SS clutch line.. not a replacement hardline.
MegasquirtCA
10-31-2007, 06:33 PM
can you make me a Vacuum log with 6 1/8 NPT ports. Heres the page for taka.
http://takamotorsports.com/ProductClutchLines_page.html
k's_silvia2.0
10-31-2007, 06:33 PM
Ill measure my E-brake button.
NemeGuero
10-31-2007, 06:34 PM
can you make me a Vacuum log with 6 1/8 NPT ports. Heres the page for taka.
http://takamotorsports.com/ProductClutchLines_page.html
Thanks for the link!
PM me some more details on what you want made and maybe we can work somefin' out.
MegasquirtCA
10-31-2007, 06:37 PM
Vacuum log/manifold pretty much just a rectangle with holes drilled.
Cheapest I found was from Voodoo for $25 for 6 ports and $21.95 for 4 ports.
http://www.voodooboost.com/images/VacuumManifold.jpg
Bubba
10-31-2007, 06:43 PM
Enjuku has a hardline replacement. It looks like a SS clutch line but longer, just hook it to your current line and bam. They sell both. Master to loop, and loop to slave. $40 bux each. Look it up.
NemeGuero
10-31-2007, 06:43 PM
Dunno if there are drill bits long enough to go all the way through the block.
Cut away looks like this, right?
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6852/cutawaywb6.jpg
NemeGuero
10-31-2007, 06:44 PM
Enjuku has a hardline replacement. It looks like a SS clutch line but longer, just hook it to your current line and bam. They sell both. Master to loop, and loop to slave. $40 bux each. Look it up.
taka has them for $65 for the complete I think.
MegasquirtCA
10-31-2007, 06:45 PM
Yup exactly like that.
Yea the Taka one says MC to SC. Im sure you can build one for a lot cheaper. The shop I go to would probably do it for $25-$33 I just dont know the thread pitch.
NemeGuero
10-31-2007, 06:47 PM
I'll spend the extra money on not having to build it myself. haha $65 aint bad.
If I have the 6 1/8 taps at the machine shop I'll do it.
MegasquirtCA
10-31-2007, 06:50 PM
The holes on the end are 1/4 NPT, and the 6 holes are 1/8 NPT I dont really think I need 6 ports I could get away with 5.
NemeGuero
10-31-2007, 06:56 PM
I'm gonna make it dildo shaped.. and it won't be painted. lol
MegasquirtCA
10-31-2007, 07:15 PM
I'm gonna make it dildo shaped.. and it won't be painted. lol
LOL good thing I start powdercoated last month. :keke:
blownmotor
10-31-2007, 08:28 PM
just bend the stock line straight to slaveand replace the rubber line one to ss
NemeGuero
10-31-2007, 10:58 PM
just bend the stock line straight to slaveand replace the rubber line one to ss
Wtf are you talking about?
did you read the thread?
I want a SS line to replace the stock hardline.. I already eliminated my damper box.
and I found one on Taka. So STFU
blownmotor
10-31-2007, 11:08 PM
fucking pointless to get a ss line when stock hard lines already do their job and the hard lines are already mounted in place and you're changing it to ss line because why your dumbass the likes to have some clutch line flopping around when the stock lines are perfectly fine
NemeGuero
10-31-2007, 11:50 PM
fucking pointless to get a ss line when stock hard lines already do their job and the hard lines are already mounted in place and you're changing it to ss line because why your dumbass the likes to have some clutch line flopping around when the stock lines are perfectly fine
No FUCKTARD. I'm replacing the line to eliminate it as a suspect for air leaks.
and it only flops around if you do half-ass work. All it takes is a simple ziptie or 2.
vvtisupra
11-01-2007, 12:08 AM
refer: http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=157659
Healtoeae86 is the guy to talk to. He can make anything. If you want he can make it out of nomex lines at 25+ bucks a ft if you really wanna be gangster.
downshift_sideways
11-01-2007, 12:14 AM
fucking pointless to get a ss line when stock hard lines already do their job and the hard lines are already mounted in place and you're changing it to ss line because why your dumbass the likes to have some clutch line flopping around when the stock lines are perfectly fine
Your lucky I spread to much rep today....FAG
Rayne
11-01-2007, 02:25 AM
I bought an Earl's replacement clutch line from FRSport.com for $41.64 shipped.
Earls Stainless Steel Clutch Line (http://www.frsport.com/Earls_Stainless_Steel_Clutch_Line_Nissan_S13_S14_S 15_p_1221.html)
unicoladron
11-01-2007, 07:24 AM
Neme,
Agency power makes a really nice braided line that is wrapped in some black plastic protective shit. they make a long line for "AT to MT" conversions and a short line that is probably for people who eliminate the dampener box. i actually accidentially bought both of them,and it worked out great and it's the perfect length when using both.
short line:
http://www.agency-power.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/61_68/products_id/131
long line:
http://www.agency-power.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/171
NemeGuero
11-01-2007, 09:27 AM
I bought an Earl's replacement clutch line from FRSport.com for $41.64 shipped.
Earls Stainless Steel Clutch Line (http://www.frsport.com/Earls_Stainless_Steel_Clutch_Line_Nissan_S13_S14_S 15_p_1221.html)
Thats just the short line.
Neme,
Agency power makes a really nice braided line that is wrapped in some black plastic protective shit. they make a long line for "AT to MT" conversions and a short line that is probably for people who eliminate the dampener box. i actually accidentially bought both of them,and it worked out great and it's the perfect length when using both.
short line:
http://www.agency-power.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/61_68/products_id/131
long line:
http://www.agency-power.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/171
so I'd need both then?
NemeGuero
11-01-2007, 09:29 AM
refer: http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=157659
Healtoeae86 is the guy to talk to. He can make anything. If you want he can make it out of nomex lines at 25+ bucks a ft if you really wanna be gangster.
sweet. I'll hit him up.
Rayne
11-01-2007, 09:57 AM
Thats just the short line. Well I guess that is what I get for being too tired when I sent in the order. No big deal...I know a pick and pull I can get the stock hard line from. I guess I will up grade later.
Dream240
11-01-2007, 10:36 AM
taka has them for $65 for the complete I think.
dammit, I bought mine about a year ago, for 80. Oh well. Works great though, you have more than enough line so that you can move the slave around when you need to. There's no tightness in the line at all.
unicoladron
11-01-2007, 10:38 AM
yes, you should definitely get both of the lines. they work perfect.
s13silvia123
11-01-2007, 10:44 AM
few years back when i did my swap i had someone made me a complete SS lines for me. i'll get some pics up for ya. nothing ever went wrong for me. i had it for almost eight years now.
vvtisupra
11-01-2007, 09:22 PM
sweet. I'll hit him up.
just found out he is at SEMA so you might want to give him some time
NemeGuero
11-01-2007, 11:15 PM
thanks for the headsup.. was wondering why he hadn't gotten back to me.
g6civcx
11-02-2007, 06:34 AM
Why are you even asking? Taka Motorsports for the clutch line.
vvtisupra
11-02-2007, 10:28 AM
cuz ash > takamotorsports
For me I just like Ash's personal touches on things. He's a 240 owner and a hachi owner, a 510 owner and an ASE certified Mastertech, not to mention he's worked at Bakerprecision a while making custom lines, for daily cars and trucks to full raced out cars and trucks. Yah pretty much when I need to do lines I just go to healtoeae86 (aka ash)
Neejay
11-02-2007, 10:37 AM
The Agency Power auto-to-manual line is the full thing (MC to SC). That's all you need. Look at the fittings:
http://www.agency-power.com/catalog/images/ap-240conclutchline1a.jpg
$40 :D I plan on getting one, because I bent my hardline the wrong way and I can't use the clutch bracket with my SS clutch line...so mine just dangles.
EDIT: errrr...looks like Im wrong? That guy on the first page said he's using a clutch line + this long one.
MURPHY
11-02-2007, 10:45 AM
so the agency power one does pretty much this. so for 80$ you can get from the CMC to the slave
http://www.zeroyon.com/pics/installs/clutchlinemod/DSCF0497.JPG
Neejay
11-02-2007, 10:46 AM
^^^Not sure now, I thought it did, but the guy on the first page said he's using both?????
NemeGuero
11-02-2007, 10:47 AM
Yeah, I'm wondering if the agency one is too short by itself..
Neejay
11-02-2007, 10:49 AM
It's 52"...I just sent AP an email.
NemeGuero
11-02-2007, 10:50 AM
I don't know how long it needs to be, so that info means nothing to me. hahah
MURPHY
11-02-2007, 10:51 AM
ok... so it deletes the damper and acts as a clutch line too? wow...
Sileighty_85
11-02-2007, 10:52 AM
The Agency Power auto-to-manual line is the full thing (MC to SC). That's all you need. Look at the fittings:
http://www.agency-power.com/catalog/images/ap-240conclutchline1a.jpg
$40 :D I plan on getting one, because I bent my hardline the wrong way and I can't use the clutch bracket with my SS clutch line...so mine just dangles.
EDIT: errrr...looks like Im wrong? That guy on the first page said he's using a clutch line + this long one.
No other lines need.
This one goes stright from MS to Salve Im using this one right now works perfectly
Neejay
11-02-2007, 10:58 AM
No other lines need.
This one goes stright from MS to Salve Im using this one right now works perfectlyThanks for confirmation!
EDIT: I see you're in Japan? Do you have an actual silvia/180sx? or a USDM 240sx? Of course the length would be right if you had a RHD one haha
MURPHY
11-02-2007, 11:00 AM
sileighty_85 no more neutral rep for ya
surprised it deletes both. wth's the point of them selling a clutch line then...
Neejay
11-02-2007, 11:00 AM
OK, got a fast repsonse from AP:
Matt Jobin <
[email protected]>
to me
show details
12:58 pm (1 minute ago)
Hi Nick,
The conversion clutch line replaces the hard line and we recommend using the
stainless steel clutch line.
Regards,
Matt Jobin
Agency Power
Brand Manager
Ph: 480-921-7422 EXT 250
Fax: 480-966-0806
[email protected]
NemeGuero
11-02-2007, 11:01 AM
sileighty_85 no more neutral rep for ya
surprised it deletes both. wth's the point of them selling a clutch line then...
for those who dont' want to ditch the hardline but don't like the rubber line anymore..
its cheaper
MURPHY
11-02-2007, 11:01 AM
^^ well duh. cause that means more money for them
Neejay
11-02-2007, 11:03 AM
^^ well duh. cause that means more money for themYeah, that's what I was thinking. lol
But sileighty_85 has a RHD 180sx, so of course that line would be the right length.
NemeGuero
11-02-2007, 11:08 AM
Yeah, I'm just gonna have Whats his face make me one.
And WHERE the fuck are my measurements for the drift button dude? lawlz
MURPHY
11-02-2007, 11:11 AM
pm me a price when ya get one for that line. i might want one too.
vutony
11-02-2007, 11:12 AM
http://forums.freshalloy.com/showthread.php?t=162420&highlight=clutch+line
MURPHY
11-02-2007, 11:14 AM
yea but that's 48 inches so the agency power one will work.
Neejay
11-02-2007, 11:15 AM
http://forums.freshalloy.com/showthread.php?t=162420&highlight=clutch+line
According to that, he only used a 4ft line...the Agency Power line is 52" = 4.3ft = WIN
:D
NemeGuero
11-02-2007, 11:16 AM
http://forums.freshalloy.com/showthread.php?t=162420&highlight=clutch+line
Yay! The An fitting specs!!
MURPHY
11-02-2007, 11:26 AM
time to do all the lines and tuck under the wiper cover!
that would be tight but expensive
vutony
11-02-2007, 11:27 AM
np, glad to help
*i have a bunch of bookmarks
Sileighty_85
11-02-2007, 11:31 AM
Thanks for confirmation!
EDIT: I see you're in Japan? Do you have an actual silvia/180sx? or a USDM 240sx? Of course the length would be right if you had a RHD one haha
Not anymore I did for 2 years I'm just too lazy to change plus I still like to think im still living there. lol
I did Have a 180SX
Basically brought it back Minus the Chassis though :P
I drive a USDM Sileighty now (Converted but Still LHD)
so For the USDM S-13 it works perfect.
I tried to reply quicker but work got busy
NemeGuero
11-06-2007, 11:37 AM
I dun sent the moolah to healtoe86 dude.
nsn240
11-06-2007, 12:09 PM
You ever get any button specs? I was tryin to find that out oo
NemeGuero
11-06-2007, 12:13 PM
Nah, I keep bugging him about it but no go.
k's_silvia2.0
11-06-2007, 01:20 PM
Ill get on it tonight.
Sonic Motor
11-06-2007, 01:36 PM
I can help you get some SS clutch lines. I forgot the price, but its around $30ish??
PM if you are interested. I was gonna help a friend start a group buy or something for it, but i dunno if ppl are interested. then i saw this thread haha...
NemeGuero
11-06-2007, 02:59 PM
You better get on it! haha j/k
I already paid for the other SS lines from healtoeae86... thanks tho
k's_silvia2.0
11-07-2007, 11:44 AM
I sent you a pm.
NemeGuero
11-07-2007, 01:22 PM
I got it. I have a few ?s though on your dimensions..
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/6456/driftbuttonmp2.jpg
like this?
AIM me.
johngriff
11-07-2007, 01:33 PM
Neme,
F the drift button, way too unreliable.
Just pull the locking mech out of the ebrake, park in gear.
I've had those stupid buttons unlock mid bullshit, its not fun.
As for the SS line, best mod to clutch system. Bleeding now will take 2 mins, instead of 45, pedal feel is a "little better", not tilton good, but not nissan bad.
k's_silvia2.0
11-07-2007, 01:55 PM
Neme,
F the drift button, way too unreliable.
Just pull the locking mech out of the ebrake, park in gear.
I've had those stupid buttons unlock mid bullshit, its not fun.
As for the SS line, best mod to clutch system. Bleeding now will take 2 mins, instead of 45, pedal feel is a "little better", not tilton good, but not nissan bad.
Well ive had mine in for a year with no problems.I supplied him with the dimensions for the exact one i have.Hey you got it Neme?
2iv0 sx
11-07-2007, 02:34 PM
Wow I wanna get this conversion done now. Thanks for the link vutony! Looks like earl's ss lines are simple or might just go with the agency power
Let me get a button too!
johngriff
11-07-2007, 02:37 PM
Yeah, I am kind of "no frills" and "no mistakes" what you do with your spin turn knob is your own business ;)
NemeGuero
11-07-2007, 04:13 PM
I'll make a thread for Neme's Buttons. hahaha
I don't know how much Aluminum I can use for free, but I'm sure buying a piece of extra stock wouldn't be too much. Al is like $3 /lb.
k's_silvia2.0
11-07-2007, 04:17 PM
Im first inline.;)
All gonna be silver or can you get anodized?
NemeGuero
11-07-2007, 04:19 PM
Na, I don't have access to an anodizer. Yours will be free since you're helpin' me out. Others I'll probably just charge shipping.
vvtisupra
11-07-2007, 10:04 PM
what a coincidence just talked to ash and he said your hose is done and being sent out tomorrow
NemeGuero
11-07-2007, 10:28 PM
Sick. He said he was gonna ship it tuesday but whatever. lol
thanks for the update vvtisupra
k's_silvia2.0
11-08-2007, 11:29 AM
Any prototype pics yet?
Slidin240Wayz
11-08-2007, 11:32 AM
I ordered the Agencer Power line from 240sxMotoring on Tuesday and received it on Wednesday.
52 inches it is.
Holler!
NemeGuero
11-08-2007, 01:19 PM
Yah, I just finished making the first one. You gave me CRAP dimensions. hahaha
You used a ruler and eyeballed it, huh?
I got close, but the button needs to grab the original button more (which was the purpose of the rear dimple).. I gotta drill it out more and then it should work.
It'd help if you could get that pic to me.
k's_silvia2.0
11-08-2007, 01:21 PM
Yah, I just finished making the first one. You gave me CRAP dimensions. hahaha
You used a ruler and eyeballed it, huh?
I got close, but the button needs to grab the original button more (which was the purpose of the rear dimple).. I gotta drill it out more and then it should work.
Sorry no caliper insight and uea I just used this mini tape measurer.:keke:
Well im sure you are smart enough dude to make any neccesary adjustments.
NemeGuero
11-08-2007, 01:26 PM
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9178/nemedriftbutton001hu2.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1411/nemedriftbutton002kg5.jpg
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/7849/nemedriftbutton003ah8.jpg
the finish looks much better in person.
That, and I suck at taking pictures and the flash is hella bright.
k's_silvia2.0
11-08-2007, 01:28 PM
Gotta bore that out and make it about 1inch deep maybe a lil more.Looks good though.
NemeGuero
11-08-2007, 01:29 PM
Dude, you're terrible.. the whole part is barely longer than 3/4 inch. hahaha
Yeah, I gotta push the drill through about halfway through the neck of the part. Woulda been easier to do before I parted the piece from the stock though!! Now I gotta grab just the hat in the 3 jaw and thats not gonna be fun.
Get me those pics!!
bejota180sx
11-08-2007, 01:31 PM
can i get in one of those if they work? doesnt have to have any finish or colors or anything just sumthing when i go for a run stik it in there and keep moving and take it out as soon as im done (in case i have to park on a hill or sumthing) if you make any extra ones tell me ill see if i can find the $$$
NemeGuero
11-08-2007, 01:35 PM
haha, good, cuz they won't have any finish. I don't know how to annodize.
I don't think you can remove it and just have a working e-brake again, cuz you have to release the return spring.
This doesn't keep your e-brake from working.. you push it in and it stays in and the e-brake releases by itself.
You can pull the button out to lock the e-brake for parking on hills.
NemeGuero
11-08-2007, 01:35 PM
I'ma close this thread and make one for just the buttons.. I might have to talk to Kevin though cuz it may be a "vendor" thing..
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