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dued
10-18-2007, 06:12 PM
:aw:

I've been contemplating painting my damaged interior panels a flat black using Rustoleum's oil based enamel. I though of the costs involved in replacing these with either new or used parts, and wanted something that was less expensive, good finish, and repairable if damaged again. The paint is very versatile and should stick to plastic / vinyl without any problems.

Have any of you brown interior s13 owners painted your interior panels with Rustoleum? Any s14 owners done this? Also, do any of you guys know of someone who has used Rhino Liner on their dash, consoles, etc?

Any pictures of odd or clever interior solutions are appreciated.

Pank
10-18-2007, 07:14 PM
probably not a lot of people here, but check Pirate 4x4 or something, they do this stuff ALL the time

s13pignose
10-18-2007, 07:57 PM
I did my lip in rustoleum textured and painted my center garnish with the same, both are plastic, so I guess it should be ok. It's kinda rhino liner looking. Just try to get an adhesion promoter I guess and make sure the surface is real clean..I use alcohol myself.

Also this is really good at promotoing adhesion. Even though all my attempts on painting my interior never went the way I wanted (messed up on sanding texture away), I always had good adhesion thanks to this....

http://www.perfectfit.com/product.asp?Product_Id=154519&d_Id=15342&l1=15979&l2=15342

Basically way I was told to use it is spray the part with that first, wait like 4 secs then do a light coat of paint. Then regular coats after the first about 30secs later. I found that stuff at an automotive paint shop

image12
10-18-2007, 08:10 PM
rhino lining a gutted jeep interior looks good and durable but rhino lining is heavy and not cheap.

dued
10-18-2007, 08:29 PM
I did my lip in rustoleum textured and painted my center garnish with the same, both are plastic, so I guess it should be ok. It's kinda rhino liner looking. Just try to get an adhesion promoter I guess and make sure the surface is real clean..I use alcohol myself.

Also this is really good at promotoing adhesion. Even though all my attempts on painting my interior never went the way I wanted (messed up on sanding texture away), I always had good adhesion thanks to this....

http://www.perfectfit.com/product.asp?Product_Id=154519&d_Id=15342&l1=15979&l2=15342

Basically way I was told to use it is spray the part with that first, wait like 4 secs then do a light coat of paint. Then regular coats after the first about 30secs later. I found that stuff at an automotive paint shop


^Keeping the original texture and look is one of my main goals also. I was hoping to lightly sand the hard plastic console, and then go over it with enamel. I think that the original texture might be replaced with the Rustoleum's bumpy texture.

I really want to paint all of the parts at the same time, including door panels and dash. The reason why I'm not leaning towards vinyl die is because I would like to fix scratches and a crack in my dash before painting, probably with bondo or wood glue.


I also would like to keep away from spray paint due to it's thin layering. I would like to use Rustoleum oil based because of its thickness, durability, and easy repairs.

Bushido
10-18-2007, 09:01 PM
broadfield knows whats up when it comes to interior paint. his stuff looks 100% oem.

s13pignose
10-18-2007, 09:35 PM
I 2nd that...seen his work in his interior thread...very oem looking.

zoomswimmer
10-18-2007, 09:56 PM
I've heard if you rhino line the interior it makes the car alittle more rigid, but also heavier.

ripnbst
10-18-2007, 10:02 PM
I've heard if you rhino line the interior it makes the car alittle more rigid, but also heavier.

Are you for reals playa? Adding Rhino lining to stiffen the car??? LMMFAO at that idea. Buy sway bars/strut bars/coilovers. I am seriously in awe at that comment, or even the thought.:tweak:

dued
10-18-2007, 10:20 PM
http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2006/02/ProjectMXInterior/index.php

(http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2006/02/ProjectMXInterior/index.php)
^Found a link of a company that used SEM's products to restore some vinyl interior pieces. Check out the 3 page restoration, good stuff.

That process looks good for people trying to do a color change (brown and blue s13 and s14 interiors), but I'm looking for something a little bit thicker and something that will go on over a fiberglass or bondo repair.

I'm hoping to find a satin or flat black textured enamel paint.

(http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2006/02/ProjectMXInterior/index.php)

B Love
10-18-2007, 10:33 PM
I wouldnt use rhino liner. Maybe in the trunk or something

dued
10-18-2007, 11:34 PM
:2f2f:

Alright dueds, after some research I think I've come up with a method:



http://www.wel-cote.com/images/Tif%20yellowstipple.jpg



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http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/a9/d7/6666192020066777654.pre-resized200.jpg

= no priming, easy touchup, uniform, new looking interior panels. The roller up there is called a stipple roller, it produces a textured surface similar to the factory texture on the console and dash. For the door panels, a smooth foam roller should match the original finish. If I get a chance to experiment with this method, I will be sure to post pics if possible.

For anyone out there who has a spare interior piece to experiment on, try this out and post up some results.:aw:

projectRDM
10-18-2007, 11:37 PM
I've used SEM products for years on all my interior parts I rebuild. They have a texture coat that mimics the OE finish if sprayed properly, that backed with primer and landau black dye is a near perfect OE match.

dued
10-19-2007, 06:29 PM
I would like to paint my glove box (discoloration and scuffs), but I'm not sure about how to remove it. I sat in my car to check it out, and the FSM states that there are 2 screws behind it.

How do I take the glove box out? Also, what about those white hinges that it's on?

Full-Lock
10-19-2007, 07:21 PM
me and a buddy used hurculiner on the interior of his car. it worked awesome..took about 3 coats to look right. the biggest pain in the ass was masking stuff off and cleaning the actual sound deadening shit. that took a good 4-5 hours. applying it was so big deal. its been done for about a month now and it still holding up strong.

Bushido
10-19-2007, 07:31 PM
everyone says that truck bedliner is so heavy.
how heavy are we talking here?

Full-Lock
10-19-2007, 07:42 PM
i dont understand when people say its ''heavy''
it can only be as heavy as the can it comes in which is like 10-15lbs?

Bushido
10-19-2007, 07:44 PM
exactly.

It can't be that heavy.. It's probably lighter than the stock sound deadening tar, which i think weighs about 45lbs.

i found this stuff:
http://www.nonslipcoating.com/truck-bed-liners.htm

sounds interesting, considering you can brush and roll it on.
it's made of recycled tires and it comes in different colors.
one gallon covers an entire truck bed.

anyone have experience with this stuff?

dued
10-19-2007, 09:16 PM
Anyone know how to remove the glove box in an s14?


edit: I found the two screws below the glovebox. For anyone wondering, it's the two screws attached to the white hinges.

And thank you Sir for the reply.

Sir
10-19-2007, 09:26 PM
philips screws all around.

projectRDM
10-19-2007, 11:53 PM
Anyone know how to remove the glove box in an s14?


edit: I found the two screws below the glovebox. For anyone wondering, it's the two screws attached to the white hinges.

And thank you Sir for the reply.

If you had trouble with that, maybe you should stick to lesser hobbies. You know, huffing glue and shit.

upSLIDEdown
10-20-2007, 08:40 AM
me and a buddy used hurculiner on the interior of his car. it worked awesome..took about 3 coats to look right. the biggest pain in the ass was masking stuff off and cleaning the actual sound deadening shit. that took a good 4-5 hours. applying it was so big deal. its been done for about a month now and it still holding up strong.

Did my Zuki in Herculiner. 3 coats. Worked great. Eventually faded to a flat finish but that's being out in the sun and weather year round. After about 3 years, it's getting a little thin on the front end, I'm gonna throw another 2 or 3 coats on it sometime soon.

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/9100/blkarmrrearsmallsmallnz9.jpg

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/6250/pict0237smallrr5.jpg

dued
10-21-2007, 02:05 AM
Update - Got the first coat of paint on after filling the gouges with spot putty. Went with Rustoleum satin black. I thought the paint would be flatter, but it has a bit too much gloss. Going to see if I can return it for a flat black. I'll update with more information once this is done.

*Kung Fu Grip*
10-21-2007, 03:34 AM
We need PICS!!! lol

ChingSR20
10-21-2007, 04:51 AM
exactly.

It can't be that heavy.. It's probably lighter than the stock sound deadening tar, which i think weighs about 45lbs.

The sound deadening in the car is way less then 45lbs its more like 15lbs.

yokotas13
10-21-2007, 05:05 AM
LOL at spot putty

dued
10-21-2007, 10:09 PM
***Final Results***

I don't own a digital camera so bear with the text! My conclusion is that Rustoleum's black paints are too glossy! Other than that, the finish came out flawed, with paint bubbles and dirt debris.

I would not recommend that Rustoleum be used on your interior panels with the roll on method. I would however, like to see some of it sprayed on, or some other sprayed on material (rhino, line x, etc.)

So, due to my lack of good results, I do not recommend this.

B Love
10-21-2007, 10:10 PM
I think spray would probably work best

Tearlessj
10-21-2007, 10:55 PM
***Final Results***

I don't own a digital camera so bear with the text! My conclusion is that Rustoleum's black paints are too glossy! Other than that, the finish came out flawed, with paint bubbles and dirt debris.

I would not recommend that Rustoleum be used on your interior panels with the roll on method. I would however, like to see some of it sprayed on, or some other sprayed on material (rhino, line x, etc.)

So, due to my lack of good results, I do not recommend this.

You got bubbles because the paint was not thinned enough. Dirt because you didnt clean enough. The only way to roll on the paint without bubbles is to thin it, and that means it wont be textured. I would reccomend some bumper coating for interior painting. Just go to the local auto paint store and get some. Of course, it wont be textured.

Bushido
10-22-2007, 11:01 AM
well, since you already screwed up the dash by paining it, why not just get a quart of some bed liner coating and try it out?

and take some pics.

upSLIDEdown
10-22-2007, 03:48 PM
That shit's really rough. I wouldn't want it on door panels, or anything my arm would brush against periodically...

dued
10-23-2007, 12:33 PM
It looks like I'll be posting a WTB ad for a glove box soon :keke: