Super Duper JDM Shop

[HIGH END EAST]

Between the east and west coast, the car scenes are two total different levels of tuning. What it looks like to me is the west coast take's the import scene seriously and everyone pays big bucks for big parts. As for the east, we are slowly progressing but i still see posers left and right. So im wondering, would people on the east coast be willing to pay top dollar for top parts? I hope this gives no offense to anybody, from the big ballers to the bang for the buck tuners. We are all tuners and cars are cars. The reason for this thread is a friend of mine from the west is contemplating on opening a shop on the east coast. He already owns a shop in the west, called High End Performance. They carry high brand japanese parts that are usually hard for the average tuner to get a hold of. They carry the parts in shop 24/7, and they have the cars to show it. Heres some of their machines.... I want to get some feedback as tuners, from both sides. Whether you buy parts for the name, and r& d and craftsmanship or if your just a bang for your buck as long as it gets the job done type of tuner.
Is this something the East Coast market would support, especially if they gave back to the community by throwing events and supporting the industry; i.e. helping setup and organize drift events, be involved with redline and gtlive with thier time attack events, hold shows etc....
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Here is the shop facility on the west coast:
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So my question is, would you guys like a shop like this? Capable of building cars like that on the east coast?

I would gladly appreciate opinions on this, were still in the works of going in with this...Thnx


-Mark

[S13Leprechaun]

well we have a shop here in sd, and they have super expensive rare shit, and some unkown brand stuff for cheaper... theres people that want both.. so the best thing to do would be to provide both for customers... cause when it comes to strut bars and shit like that, ot me if it gets the job done im fine... i dont need or want to buy a $200 cusco front strut bar when i can get one for $20 or $30 that will be fine thats a no-namer.. idk... just my 2 cents.

[eastcoastS14]

ha hell yeah.....just open it in boston imports over here are seriously suffering

[brndck]

high end builds sick cars. every car i've seen from them, whether it was in a magazine or at a show, is damn near flawless. and nothing is left unmodified. they would be a godsend to any area where people are looking to obtain rare/expensive stuff. just hope the market on the east coast would be enough to justify opening a location there. the only thing i dislike about em is that, maybe i'm wrong, but do any of their cars see track time? or are they just all show. not that theres anything wrong with just all show, just not my fave.

[roel03]

I live in FL and we would love a shop like that. We have some performance shops like Enjuku but nothing compared to that.

[HIGH END EAST]

the cars that are built there are flawless, and yes they are sick, as for track time i believe they are getting to run some events next season. I know for a fact if it were to happen you guys would see some of their east coast cars run because thats what the east coast does.

The west loves the show circuit but the east builds cars to run; i.e. like my 240sx (buddy club) that i ran at VIR last week....

But we all have an idea of what we all want, us 240 guys know what happens when we hit the track, we break shyt. Whether we are awesome or not shyt breaks, so we try to get the best bang for the buck.

Where as the guys that are time attacking dont break stuff as much so maybe they'll buy something that has had tons of r&d done to ensure the parts work properly.

the show guys want the bling fact. The part may not even work but if its super rare and expensive thats what they want.

A shop that understands this and knows what the market wants and will support, will do good in my opinion. I think the biggest problem with shops these days is they aren't actually participating and don't get down to the tuner's level and don't understand what they want.

So if this can be accomplished on the East and a shop could provide a happy median for all aspects, do you guys (the grass roots tuners) think it would be something that would help you guys accomplish what you want to do, and do you think it would be a hit with the tuners themselves?

So far it looks like the east is lacking something of this nature and does need something like this.

[GSXRJJordan]

The serious issue here is would the shop make money. Global shipping/commerce means anyone can get anything from anywhere, it just comes down to convenience - once a shop somewhere in the US has a part that you want, you can buy it from them with a minimum of hassle.

A shop makes its money by moving product, and performing labor. If they're planning on just opening a warehouse/showroom like in the pics, I would say it's not worth it; they'd be stealing potential business from the West Coast shop and introducing tons (basically double) overhead. If they want to do full buildups/etc (the real money has always been in delivering a 'turn-key' product), then I would think it would be worth it - but there are other competitors out on the Eastern Seaboard to think about.

It's a tough call either way, and there's no way to tell until you actually do it whether it will pay off. C'est la vie.

[Bushido]

"flawless" and "sick" cars? i see none in this thread. I see cars trying to emulate japanese style, but not pulling it off 100%.

[HIGH END EAST]

Thats exactly why i posted this, keep the opinions coming.

What if the shop offered everything from custom widebody work, like the cars you see up top, where a designer would fly out and build that jgtc dream car.

To building an all out race car,

All the way down to offering a detailing package for the cars after that nasty east coast winter, with the snow and salt ruining cars.....

What if you were able to get everything done at a shop, and parts were competitvely priced.

From installs to detailing your car to being able to pick and choose your parts and have them in a timely matter...

-Mark

[steve shadows]

sure but the 240 community is poor and getting poorer

[S13Leprechaun]

^^this is true... especially us out here in cali.. i cant even afford a double cheesburger.

[ThatGuy]

A "High End" shop trying to cater to 240sx drivers?

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Oh wait.

You were serious?

Stick to building Magazine Cars. There aren't many of that caliber on Zilvia, and likely won't be.

[silnismo]

The perfect location, I THINK should be around the tri state area nj/ny/pa.

We have absolutly nothing, all the parts on my car are bought online and parts i can't install are usually left to my local nissan dealership.(yes, they do aftermarket parts)

And if you wanted to do events, theres englishtown, nj. Also a road course recently opened there as well.

The only problem i can see is that their are about equally as much imports as domestics around my area.

my .02 $

[ROIDMONKEY]

FLORIDA FLORIDA so i stop ordering crap from u people up in CA BASTARDS :)
there is nothing down here period , and dont u people say ENJUKO or Enjuke or DUKE whatever the name is . caus ethey have notin ever when i call to order or something

[JDMsosofreshS13]

hell ya i would love a shop like that here near the jersey new york area.there are shops around here already..but a shop that carries all the big name companies.youd get alot of feedback here in the jersey area.as well as new york area.were only progressing slowly because of the weather here on the east coast.but that doesnt mean we dont have garages.

[TipStylez]

you want money, open a shop in the east coast that aims for VIP and DUB styled cars.

The nissan community aint that baller, even if they drive a 350z, most owners still aim for DIY or the cheapest best bang for the buck parts. Just once in awhile you have the owners that is willing to spend big bucks for a flashy part.

And most tuners are cheap civic or 240 drivers. hahaha

[ae13bravo]

I was in Lafayette ,Indiana in the summer (I know its not the east coast but I thought it might help out). While was there i had never seen so many american cars on the streets. There were some imports but not as many as in Cali. Well point is that there was a lot of posers and not many serious tuners. My buddy recently moved out there and has a VR4 Galant thats well built(beats a Z06 on the streets). Only two cars gave him a good chase. A wrx wich beat him and a turbo Civic wich kept up until mid third gear. We stopped and talked to them about local shops (there were none worth naming according to them) and they said they practically had to go to really far (like chicago,IL) or online to get the good stuff. Funniest thing I seen there was a civic hatch with a wrx front end.:barf: Hope this helped.

[yokotas13]

Im gonna say No
People SAY they will pay for the shit, but when it comes down to it 90% of the nissan game will always go back to stance, megan, kts, k sport

that 10% isnt enough to keep your business up
now if you were knowledgable in VIP, then you could make some cash. Its a flourishing trend in the US, growing with the likes of drifting in terms of speed of growth.

But yeah, you woudlnt make it unless you catered to the 350z/g35/rx7/evo/sti crowd

[deadpirate]

high end performance caters to everyone. any and all makes and models of import cars. nissan/infiniti, subaru, honda/acura, toyota/lexus/scion. they cater to everything. not just 240sx owners

[sideview_180sx]

how come I see none of those cars running on the track???

[slider2828]

I actually do marketing for an import car company and we were looking at a similar situation. I think it is a very tough call because most parts would come from Japan, assuming that is what you are showing here, its an added cost to truck over to east coast. Secondly, although shop location and rent might off set that, there is still time to market. Building and fabrication is a needle in a hay stack, you aren't catering to 90% of the market. 90% of the market is doing bolt-ons and exhaus installs. Where 58% are looking at DIY stuff and the other 32 is just wash and wax and rims and stuff. Unless you have a huge marketing budget to go after all the potential race car companies, its going to be tough to do a high end build. You should ask Luke at SDP the same question.

Its a good dream to do it, but to build something to high end is more like a huge marketing factory backed sort of thing. What really pays the bills are brake jobs oil changes, timing belts, etc. Then your way into the local scene. That is my .02 cents, secondly, doing some research besides forums might help and the best way to get real market data and not opinions is to look at magazine data from Primedia. Just FYI, primedia owns more than 90% of the car magazines in the US including superstreet, modified, compact sports car, turbo, etc..... They have all the relevant data for markets you usualy need. Now asking them the right way to get that information is up to you.

[skylindrftr]

since when is seibon high end...

[iwishiwas-all*]

miami hasnt got anything like this since dare i say "Final Stage" closed.
in orlando enjuku racing makes a pretty decent killing, but they carry more run of the mill parts.

In all honesty, unless you can price your parts fairly comparable to that on the west coast and sell RELEVANT parts, i.e. no jic titanium exhaust for a celica gts, then you can make some money.

Location is everything on the east, no pigs-knuckle arkansas ultimate tuning shop. ( no offense to anyone in arkansas, its just business.) oh and it would be good to have some sort of bay to do repairs or installs on parts mabe oil changes like a super autobacs, because your not going to sell carbon backed bride seats 24/7 here thats 4 sure and im sure ull need some other income.
Miami beach anybody hahha?

[*Kung Fu Grip*]

I live in Tampa,Fl and I could name a couple shops that do it big down here in the south,The drifting scene is getting bigger so the west better watch out..

[yellow2000SR]

The perfect location, I THINK should be around the tri state area nj/ny/pa.


I agree. AND, this same 1st post is over on TriStateTuners.

I don't have the money now, but it would be great to have a local shop that is that serious here in Pa. Im in the York/Harrisburg area and would love to go to a serious chop just to hang out and meet others interested in the same thing besides Nissan / Ford guys (I have a Ford also).




Around 4 years from now, I should be in the final stages of a business plan for a shop. I'm going to most likely keep it located in the York/Harrisburg Pennsylvania area.

I'm planning to do Fabrication, Wheels / Tires / Suspension, Performance work, and possibly body/paint work. But this is in the future we are talking. I'm 19 and still learning and want to get a few years of in-the-field experience before I get to serious. I'm finishing up schooling at WyoTech here in December. I've taken Trim/Upholstery, Collisoin/Refinishing, Applied Service Managment (Accounting, Management, Business class), and am currently in Chassis Fabrication.

[ZenkitonS14]

LOL, catchin up to killa cali's gonna be TOUGH

[98koukile]

There are a few shops in CT that cater to high end tuning... xx tuning just had an Sti featured in modified mag, not to mention a tuning shop whos name escapes me has a modified GTR33 as there trophy piece. Subaru's and Evo's run the higher end tuning market, Honda's are usually nickel and dimed, Nissans are 50/50. It would be a good idea but the tri state or FL are probably gunna be your biggest money markets

[*Kung Fu Grip*]

LOL, catchin up to killa cali's gonna be TOUGH

we'll from what I see bill shermen with Enjuku Racing is doing badass right now in 9th overall.:coold:

[Saltman]

I just finished looking at the new Super Street and saw your buddies FD featured with all the best parts on it. I remember his 350z too. Since I moved back from CA, I was thinking of doing something similar myself - opening a tuner shop specializing in selling the REAL DEAL JDM stuff for serious tuners. Only problem is my location. Here in Bama, I would probably lose alot of money due to the small scene and lack of interest in such parts. FL or ATL would be a good spot and they have a really good scene. But honestly, I think a shop in Vegas would bring in alot of revenue too since most of those folks have to go to Cali to get such parts and they like to spend the dough on high end parts. The East is coming around, but it's still a year or so behind.

[sr20boostn20]

i live in ny, yes just about everyone around here that builds cars is looking for the cheapest way to be the fastest and the cheapest way to be the flyest everyone has rotas, on my ny forum theres at least 1 new thread a day about how to save money, or how to junkyard turbo your single cam in your hatch.

theres also a bunch of shops in the long island nyc area that cater to what ever you want,

to everyone that said theres nothing theres

fizz www.fizzautosports.com/ they'll build you want ever you want, suby, supra, 240. they stock jdm wheels and other hard to find jdm goodies, but you pay for it, way over priced

wings www.wingsperformance.com they are mr.240 of ny they have a large 240 following. id say they get most if not all of the nissan business around. they also stock front end conversions, they also stock some jdm parts, and can get you what ever you want from japan. also overpriced

nrg tech www.nrgtechracing.com mostly honda stuff, they have a dyno and a good tuner, and will build you whatever you want as long as you want it fast. good people good prices

no limit motorsport nolimitmotorsport.com they are an online mail order based sulffok long island. they stock whats needed and can get just about what ever you want.

the only places to race that i know of are englishtown nj, they do parking lot drift events some auto cross, and drag racing, then theres atco nj which is a drag strip to my knowledge, and island dragway nj also a drag strip.

all im saying is i dont think theres much out here in the way of tracks that arent drag strips or circle tracks.

but if you want to come out here, DO IT, theres always money to be made.
ill buy parts of no one else does. but theres defiantly a growing market out here, hell greddy opend up a warehouse in nj.

if you build it they will come.

good luck to you

[Maxstyle]

If places like SP Engineering in CA and Sound Performance of IL can't even pay the employees what they used to, How would a location like this do it. People are just flat out broke these days. And the market gets worse. On July 1st of this year, Mackin Industries, for 1 example, raised prices on everything. Price of metal is nuts. And that reflects everywhere.

[steve shadows]

A "High End" shop trying to cater to 240sx drivers?



Oh wait.

You were serious?

Stick to building Magazine Cars. There aren't many of that caliber on Zilvia, and likely won't be.

trust me ask JOHN at rpsport, when I was parteners with him.

Its a pain in the ass

you guys are all cheap bastards who like to buy chinease parts 10 times before getting the good shit :mepoke: haha :bow:

[s13coupe805]

I chill all the time at the High End Ventura shop the original shop. They do build sick ass show cars. would love to see them do the track. I have talked to the VP which is brian and he owns the white evo. the Fd is supposed to be for D1 next year but we will see. The guys from High end 2 of them i known since high school and the the other i've known for like 6 yrs. great bunch of guys and can get anything rare jdm stuff. And as far as the 240 seen they have 3 clean ass s13 hatches.

[drifting_changed_mylife]

to hell with you west costers trying to hog all the shit! let us east costers live allitle. put it in the tri state. im dying for a place i can buy coilovers, fule pupm, fpr, and other misc parts and not have to wait 3 weeks to get em! i would love a shop i can go down with a shopping cart or something and pick all this stuff up and pay for it their

[cnile51]

Mixed reviews for everything, The guys on the east coast want it, everyone else says eh may or may not work.....

Lets think outside of the box and look at the bigger picture, it isnt a shop that is just for 240s right?

If thats the case then yes you are more than likely going to have a following....

Remember the guys who drop cash are the evo/sti owners on the east coast.....

Not to take any credit away from the 240 guys but what if this shop carried tie rods and replacement parts for the drifters, and had them in stock.....

Drift demos at E-town all of a sudden after the events or before the events you may have all the drifters come by just to see if they can buy parts "just in case" something does happen....

Why not have an extra set and a place that you can goto just in case.....

Now lets rephrase this and everyone think outside the 240sx community......

Evos, Stis, s2ks, VIP tuning etc...

all of a sudden your market looks a lot bigger and better...

If you want something to market for the 240 owners just get some cheap, wacky crazy jdm shyt

Like bubble shift knobs, those bape shifter boots, hello kitty stuff, replacement parts

Now all of a sudden you have a 240 market.....


Build it and reep the rewards, as long as its marketed correctly you shouldnt have issues finding work....

You guys dont realise how many crazy cars are actually on the east coast....

Just look at the New Image cars, or the regiment Zero cars... or the skylines running around the east coast.....

If theres a place to goto, even if its just a spot to chill, if you guys play your cards right you'll generate business...

People will buy anything as long as its priced accordingly, and they feel like they got a deal and are happy with the customer service....

[Silverbullet]

High End, i understand you were trying to open a shop in Virginia Beach before what happened to your buddy. I just moved down here to the Virginia Beach area a month ago for school and i was under the impression that there was a huge "tuner" scene, but it isn't nearly as big as it is up in Northern Virginia, where I'm from.

Your comparing the east coast ppl with the west coast people. The west coast has been exposed to the scene longer. The age group is larger. The older they are, the more money they are able to put in. I'm sure you notice the guys that do spend the big bucks at your shop in CA are in their mid 20s and 30s correct? In northern VA, the guys who CAN spend that kind of money go for BMWs, Benz, Lexus, Infiniti etc etc, and the older guys that love cars buy Ferrari, Austin Martin, Porsche, etc etc. They aren't part of the scene. Most of the ppl who are part of the FnF generation (mildstone of when import scene bloomed) are in their early 20s right now. I'd say give it a few years. Northern VA is a very wealthy area (HS kids getting Z06s, BMWs, etc etc as first cars), I would consider waiting a few years before opening a shop with a staus of High End if your looking for big buck spenders. Over the years i'm seeing more and more nice show and go style cars like the ones you guys make, in northern VA. The trend will continue to grow. Give it some time.


You guys dont realise how many crazy cars are actually on the east coast....

Just look at the New Image cars, or the regiment Zero cars... or the skylines running around the east coast.....



Regiment zero, Emotion, Tekademiks, whatever team- count how many people. Do you think those few people are enough for a business to generate profit? A business' purpose is profit.

We are still at an infant stage compared to Cali.

[ROUGE180]

We need an east coast Super Autobacs. Most of us can't afford the parts we really want but it would be cool to have a used depot like cali does. East Coast does need a shop of that caliber aswell. When I lived in San Diego it was really nice to go into a shop that actually had the parts you wanted and everything was well lit and displayed well. I think dependant on the location of the shop would tell how well it would do. What we really need a super store or a japanese middle man that would ship here in decent time and won't rape us on shipping. My boy wanted to order a supermade wing. The wing was 250... shipping was 180... damn.. thats outta control.. i know you gotta pay to play but damn.. some of us are not baller status. You should pole this question to get a better idea I think.

[Luvs2slide]

I have lived in florida for 8 years before moving to the west coast, due to the military. I can say that if the parts High End will provide will be uber expensive, then the only way they would make money is to be in a big city. I have friends who had a shop running for a couple of years, but ended up closing due to no one could afford the shit they carried (MPH AutoMod). If I were you, I would not only offer the top of the line parts, but also like a medium brand parts that will appeal to those who just need a part for a specific job i.e strut bars, certain suspension components. Granted all parts are not created equal, some people like myself would rather have a cheaper, but efficient parts that cost 40% less than another one would. However, I think if you do decide to open a shop on the East coast, do it in a big city i.e ATL, Miami. Good Luck.

[ZenkiKid]

ive had bad experience with high end, and i have had friends who have bad experiences as well.. being lied to about prices... giving me the wrong product.

I had a quote on a pair of strut bars that suddenly got bumped 50 bucks more than when i asked in my last visit. what kind of shit is that.

and they say they are going to build track cars, so far i havent seen any.

[low and slow]

I have lived in florida for 8 years before moving to the west coast, due to the military. I can say that if the parts High End will provide will be uber expensive, then the only way they would make money is to be in a big city. I have friends who had a shop running for a couple of years, but ended up closing due to no one could afford the shit they carried (MPH AutoMod). If I were you, I would not only offer the top of the line parts, but also like a medium brand parts that will appeal to those who just need a part for a specific job i.e strut bars, certain suspension components. Granted all parts are not created equal, some people like myself would rather have a cheaper, but efficient parts that cost 40% less than another one would. However, I think if you do decide to open a shop on the East coast, do it in a big city i.e ATL, Miami. Good Luck.

I agree completely.

[aznpoopy]

from what i've seen...

tri state 240 crowd would not support such a shop

most people are either
1. car is mostly stock
2. best bang for the buck (internet gb shoppers)
3. brand x crappy part pickers

[deadpirate]

the Fd is supposed to be for D1 next year but we will see.

the FD will never see the track..ben already said no

[s13coupe805]

that's now but you remember ross when it first came out that brian said it was lol. me and you both said we would love to see it hit the track but will never happen

[Frosty_spl]

The reason cali can support a shop like that is because of all of the people in a small area. There is no area on the east coast with that many people, except for NYC.

ATL would not support a shop like that. There arent enough people here to buy nice parts. You would probably break even at most. I wish there were a shop like that here though.

Most 240 people here can't even afford sportmax wheels.:loco:

There alot of big spenders in texas, it seems.

Honestly you guys should just build up a large web presence. The overhead is less and you can sell more.

[iwishiwas-all*]

best bet is fla, if u sell other exotic car parts for euros i.e. ferrari porshe etc.. ull be str8888 here.

[yudalicious]

No. I foresee all this import/drift/tune/whatever fad trailing off... you'll get a following, a buncha high school kids window shopping wanting to get discounts. Does your west coast shop get alot of internet/phone orders from the east coast, if so, where are these orders coming from? Maybe that's a good place to start.

[sijia10358]

all i have to say is.....that G35 looks pretty nice!! =)

[ImpatientS14]

I would love to run a shop like that. +1 for Florida.

[sideview_180sx]

:::MaxStyle::: Mackin Raised there prices because Rays overall hiked there price up on all items they sale. Apsec and other shops gave out heads up long before the price hike occurred.

It wasn't just mackin doing because they wanted.

Regardless IMO until you have a car(s) that does track/show/street. I'm not listening. DSG is a prime example of what happens with good exposure. East coast shop, did profound build ups of the cars, wanted feedback, and continued with the build. They got the cover of SCC. Mazworx and Hybrid performance, those shops are blowing away the doors on what was previously thought impossible on times and power levels with SR/KA.

Steve shadows is socal, but he is constantly making his car faster in the 1/4 mile.


I'm just blabbing, but pretty much you gotta do a build up on a forum to gain more recognition. Anyone can cut a check and have aero,wheels,paint, and engine put together and look great. Whose to say that you can/will/are capable of providing the same parameters, taste and desire to give the customer the same treatment as your 'High End' cars.

[2ilvia]

i just moved to the east coast and the OP is right, gay emo posers everywhere, and its their fault only that a high end shop cant survive

[B Love]

I think all those High End cars are showcars. thats why that place makes money. becauase so many people in So Cal buy parts to make their car LOOK dope and fast and like they drift but they dont. All of those people with showcars live in Cali. Look at all the huge major shows that happen out here. Almost too many to name hence the abundance of showcars and people buying name brand just because and making lame ass fake jgtc cars.

[babowc]

negatory.
You more than likely wont make enough business in order to maintain the overhead.
I dont know about other cities, but of the many in GA/ATL, ppl dont spend for shit. Same goes for me as well.
I like to DIY as much as possible, personal thing. I can't trust a shop with my car.

other than that..
like others said, there are alot of VIP/DUB posers in the eastcoast.. cater to them. S-chassis owners are on the majority, cheap, poor, and cheap.

[Tops*]

I think a Super Duper JDM Shop would just be too hard to keep business over on the east coast.

As much as I'd love to see one up here in Michigan (I know it's not the east coast) there just wouldn't be enough business. The closest shop to a Super Duper JDM Shop in Michigan was Tuning Factory, Inc., formerly known as Godspeed. Rumor has it that they closed shop.

Most people around here are all about big American V8's that make single passes down the 1/4. There's an overabundance of Mustangs where I live. I probably see one every 10 seconds on the road.

The only car scene around here that I know of is down in Toledo, Ohio. That scene has everything; American muscle to Harley's, 10 sec. tuners to ricers to crotch rockets. So I think a shop around here would have to be able cater to everyone's needs, which is just about impossible.

[pr0ject TRUENO]

No offense, but no one is willing to buy parts from a "show car" shop.

Your cars look great, but it says a lot when none of your cars even race.

I've seen a lot of your cars rocking "high-end" items, but I've never seen any of your cars anywhere other than a trailer or at a car show.

[pr0ject TRUENO]

I'm just blabbing, but pretty much you gotta do a build up on a forum to gain more recognition. Anyone can cut a check and have aero,wheels,paint, and engine put together and look great. Whose to say that you can/will/are capable of providing the same parameters, taste and desire to give the customer the same treatment as your 'High End' cars.

Exactly what I am trying to say. A lot more companies with higher exposure levels such as Logan from Aspec actually take time to go to track events, etc.

[!Zar!]

It won't work.

Maybe if you're opening the shop for the love of the industry. But if you're looking to make money, you better choose something else.

I suggest you give this dream up.

[Frosty_spl]

If you cater to porsches, f-cars, and lambos, you can survive, because those people have money to blow.

Japanese car owners usually do not.

[s13pignose]

I saw that shop in super street because the owner of that burgandy color rx7 got featured. Nice layout. It would be nice to have something like that in VA. I like alot of the higher end jdm stuff, but just not really in my budget. But if they got 2nd hand stuff too, I'm sure that would do good aswell.

[techie]

i support it open it in fairfax va you would have a lot of good business mclean area will you guys carry miata parts? like kg works and beatrush

[status:one]

Yes it would most likely work... but I don't think it would really be catering to 240sx tuners. Most 240 owners are on a tight budget and go for parts that are cheap, but also practical that they can use on the track and could care less about buying expensive brand name parts.

On a side note, I hate hearing about this posing bullshit... just because people buy brand name parts and don't track their car does not mean they are a poser. They are just improving their cars performance/looks on a different budget than yourself and they want to personalize their car and make it unique. We all modify our cars for different reasons, just understand that modifying a car does not mean you have to take it to a track. Get over yourselves. By the way... AutoConcept Elite FTW! :bigok:

[k's_silvia2.0]

Ive seen a couple of cars rocking the high end name always nice rides.I got one of their cars at Formula-D.

[sideview_180sx]

you won't make money in an area where the majority of car owners who purchase your products are b/w the ages of 15-30 (depending on driving ages in your state). Either the owner themselves are paying for it, or mommy and daddy are footing the bill. Its not until you get those owners who are established with a home, basic, transportation, and most important, income. to be able to buy those high end parts. take doriftomodachi for example. older guy has money to spend. built a sick s14, that people our ages would sink every penny we made . Now he has an s13 he's building up too. The owners of those exotics are already established. i think it comes down to were you make your niche in your area of business.