Question comparing the Front brake Calipers/Rotors off Z32 and 98 Skyline GTR.

[SSMini]

Question comparing the Front brake Calipers/Rotors off a Z32 and the Calipers/Rotors off a 1998 Skyline GTR. Do they share the same brake pads? Are calipers identical? How about rotor size? Sorry for all the questions. I have the opportunity to pick up a set of front Calipers and rotors off a 98 Skyline GTR, but not sure how interchangeable the rotors and brake pads are. Don't want to get stuck with brake components I can't get parts for.
Thanks...

[drift freaq]

Question comparing the Front brake Calipers/Rotors off a Z32 and the Calipers/Rotors off a 1998 Skyline GTR. Do they share the same brake pads? Are calipers identical? How about rotor size? Sorry for all the questions. I have the opportunity to pick up a set of front Calipers and rotors off a 98 Skyline GTR, but not sure how interchangeable the rotors and brake pads are. Don't want to get stuck with brake components I can't get parts for.
Thanks...

I will make it easy for you. The Rotors(32x295) and calipers(32mm) are larger the rotors are hard to get. Sell them to me and get yourself some 30mm Z calipers and rotors . Easy to get new rotors and pads.

[OptionZero]

nah dude

BNR34= brembo

Z32 = sumitumo/nissan

[SSMini]

Thanks for the reply guys. I picked up a set of Z32 remanufactured calipers, but having a hell of a time locating all the Shims and brake pad retainers needed for the calipers. Any ideas where I might be able to find the shims and retainers?? The shop I bought the calipers from will take my Z32 calipers back in trade for the GTR brake parts, so Im trying to see which way would be better to go.
Thanks....

[Koopa Troopa]

98 GTR is a BNCR33 isn't it? In order to run those brakes you'll need at least a 17" wheel.

[drift freaq]

98 GTR is a BNCR33 isn't it? In order to run those brakes you'll need at least a 17" wheel.

you are correct sir. OptionZero you been owned. hehehehe

[OptionZero]

yeah, but the calipers are the same mechanically, just diff colors

[projectRDM]

you are correct sir. OptionZero you been owned. hehehehe

Yes, but the GTR models still run Brembos. A GTS or lower end model would have the Sumitomo calipers.

[drift freaq]

lol this is funny, we all have correct points.Its like we are giving him all the answers collectively. lol

[Koopa Troopa]

３２GTR　Uses the same brakes as the 33 GTST except the rare VSPec models.. Those use a Brembo caliper... Never seen one though.

[sideview_180sx]

you can order the caliper rebuild kit from superior. nismoparts.courtesy parts yada yada. at one point they were being sold as complete kits

[SSMini]

Ok, lets see if I understand all this. :) The rotors on the GTR are 32x295 while the Z32 rotors are 30x280, which makes the GTR rotors larger. GTR Calipers are 32mm while the Z32's are 30mm. Ok, how about the brake pads. Do the GTR calipers use the z32 brake pads or are also to small? I think thats the only other question I have left. I think the GTR rotors and calipers would be a pain in the rear if parts need to be located later on in the future. I think I may be better off sticking with the Z32 brake conversion rather then the 1998 GT-R set up. Thanks agin for everybodies help.....

[projectRDM]

Close. The sizes listed are for the R32 GTR calipers and rotors. R33 GTRs are Brembo spec and much larger.

But yes, you can use Z32 pads with the R32 calipers, they just won't bite the entire rotor, but that doesn't mean shit since you don't have those, yours are more likely R33s if they are indeed 1998 vintage.

[drift freaq]

Close. The sizes listed are for the R32 GTR calipers and rotors. R33 GTRs are Brembo spec and much larger.

But yes, you can use Z32 pads with the R32 calipers, they just won't bite the entire rotor, but that doesn't mean shit since you don't have those, yours are more likely R33s if they are indeed 1998 vintage.

If they are 1998 Vintage they are definitely R33. The bigger question is the OP sure they are GTR and not the GTST brakes? Reason I ask this is its rare for R33 GTR clips to make it over here with the Brakes still on them.

[SSMini]

It's not a clip. A local speed shop has the car. He (The owner) is changing out the front brakes and going with aftermarket on his skyline GT-R. He asked if I was interested in the factory GT-R front brake set up.

[drift freaq]

It's not a clip. A local speed shop has the car. He (The owner) is changing out the front brakes and going with aftermarket on his skyline GT-R. He asked if I was interested in the factory GT-R front brake set up.

Well then if indeed its a R33 then those are Brembo's and they are large :D At this point I ask what are you doing with your car? How much HP are you going for? What kind of engine. Reason being, for the most part our cars function great with 30mm Z32 brakes. The only reason for going big brake upgrade is if your going for a 500hp plus car or you track it heavily and when I say that I mean road racing,autocross,time attack.Not drifting! If your drifting then the most brakes you will ever need is maybe the 32mm R32 GTR Brakes or R33 GTST brakes IMO. I run 32mm R32 GTR brakes because I run 6 cylinder engines. Brake sizes are based on a number of factors weight being one but more importantly HP and Torque. The more HP and Torque a car has the more likely it needs larger brakes.
That is why our cars in the states came with the brakes they did. Nissan felt it was enough for 150hp, which is why 180sx brakes are larger because they came with Turbocharged 205hp engines. Also why Z32 brakes where bigger as well. The funny thing is our cars do work very well with the larger Z brakes which are ok on the Z but great on our cars.

[Koopa Troopa]

33 GTR Brembo's are about as large as you need to go on brakes for an S chasis car. Make sure you run some decent tires and invest in a master cylinder brace. I didn't need to upgrade the master cylinder itself but the brace made day and night difference in braking.

[SSMini]

Hey guys, I made a mistake.:hs: I'm sooooo embarrassed. For some reason I had 1998 GT-R on my mind, but found out today its a 94 GT-R. Does that change just about everything you guys stated. He said most parts are only a millimeter or 2 larger. Is this true?? He said I could use Z32 rotors and pads. If this is true, I may just have to go and pick these parts up. :)

[projectRDM]

They're Sumitomo, a hair larger than Z32.

[drift freaq]

They're Sumitomo, a hair larger than Z32.

32mm to be exact and its actually what I run. They are dope by the way.

[drift freaq]

Hey guys, I made a mistake.:hs: I'm sooooo embarrassed. For some reason I had 1998 GT-R on my mind, but found out today its a 94 GT-R. Does that change just about everything you guys stated. He said most parts are only a millimeter or 2 larger. Is this true?? He said I could use Z32 rotors and pads. If this is true, I may just have to go and pick these parts up. :)

if you use Z32 rotors with those calipers your pad surface will hang off the edge of the rotor. The GTR and the GTS rotors are larger like I previously stated. they have extra section in the center with reversed open vains for cooling.

[SSMini]

Can I assume it will be ok to run z32 rotors and brake pads with the 94 GT-R calipers?? Or do you guys have a part number for the rotors that can be used?? Or would the best thing to do is stay with z32 calipers?? I'll go with what you guys recommend. If I remember correctly, the GT-R calipers were aluminum, while the remanufactured z32 calipers I have are iron.
Thanks...

[drift freaq]

Can I assume it will be ok to run z32 rotors and brake pads with the 94 GT-R calipers?? Or do you guys have a part number for the rotors that can be used?? Or would the best thing to do is stay with z32 calipers?? I'll go with what you guys recommend. If I remember correctly, the GT-R calipers were aluminum, while the remanufactured z32 calipers I have are iron.
Thanks...

The Ideal rotors to run are the proper sized one. I already mentioned earlier that if you use the Z32 rotors your pads will hang of the edge. Its a smaller diameter rotor(Z32) and the depth of the calipers is designed for the larger rotors( GTS R33 and R32 GTR). You can use Z32 pads but using the z32 rotors is not ideal.

[alkemyst]

３２GTR　Uses the same brakes as the 33 GTST except the rare VSPec models.. Those use a Brembo caliper... Never seen one though.

not true...all GT-Rs had 32mm rotors. They came in 296mm, 310 and 324mm (latter two Brembo).

The later R32 and R33 GTS-T were 30mm x 296mm. Sort of in between the Z32 and GTR.

Occassionally you will see R32 GTST brakes for sale...a lot of times these are only 26mm x 280.

When I got my R33 GTS-T brakes they were sold by a popular company here as R32 GTR. It's a long story but I paid a decent price for them and there wouldn't be that much difference in braking power.

Problems with everything above the Z32 brakes is your rotor selection gets pricey. DBA makes them and a couple other higher end companies. If you have a connection in Japan you can order them from the dealer, but they are still expensive.

[alkemyst]

In regards to the pads...the Z32 pads looked nearly identical to the stock R33 GTST pads I had on them...the fit was the same. These are 296mm x 30mm.

[atom]

not true...all GT-Rs had 32mm rotors. They came in 296mm, 310 and 324mm (latter two Brembo).



Nope. The brembo's are 30mm thick. All of them. And they were all 324mm up front.

310x30mm rotors was the R34 GT-T which used sumitomo calipers.

Occassionally you will see R32 GTST brakes for sale...a lot of times these are only 26mm x 280.

That was R32t and R33 GTS-4 not GTST. GTST used the 30mm's.

In regards to the pads...the Z32 pads looked nearly identical to the stock R33 GTST pads I had on them...the fit was the same. These are 296mm x 30mm.

For all the Sumitomo's I've seen, the pads and rebuild parts have all been the same.

[UNISA JECS]

BAM!!!
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[alkemyst]

the early R32 GTST had them.

[drift freaq]

starting to do a little research on replacement rotors, for the 32x296 rotors. Apparently the Sentra the newer sentra spec v's are running 12 in rotors. I am sure there is a current Nissan brake rotor available that is the 296 mm. my search continues

[alkemyst]

starting to do a little research on replacement rotors, for the 32x296 rotors. Apparently the Sentra the newer sentra spec v's are running 12 in rotors. I am sure there is a current Nissan brake rotor available that is the 296 mm. my search continues

There is more than rotor width and thickness. You can get 296x32mm rotors no problem...it's just they are not cheap like Brembo blanks.