Question about 180sx tail lights

[DisEpyon]

I was browsing today and came across this website,

http://clearcorners.com/products/nissan/240sx1/r_hbtail/

Those of you with these oem tail lights is there much difference then the ones in that link?

I dont see much of a difference in the finishes they have, could be the lighting from the camera.

ive never seen these in person expect from this one car i saw at night time, saw a quick glimps of it.

Just wondering if its that much different from the original ones. just curious

Thanks, brent

[Kn1ves]

theyre god's gift to mankind

you've been here since 2005 and havent heard of mike?

that's odd

[burnsauto]

from what i understand, the led ring was a very rare factory option that i THINK was only released one year (you may want to double check me on that.)

normal kouki tails dont have the led light ring around the outside.

[adrians_s13]

baller!

i wish i had some led kouki tail lights...

wait... I wish i had kouki tail lights too

[DisEpyon]

ok ok, i see what your saying, how the rings on the circles stand out alot more and brighter.

There so nice but dam triple the price of the originals.

[mrmephistopheles]

from what i understand, the led ring was a very rare factory option that i THINK was only released one year

That's the stupidest thing I've heard all week.

ok ok, i see what your saying, how the rings on the circles stand out alot more and brighter.

There so nice but dam triple the price of the originals.

The finishes are INSIDE the housing, basically where the reflected light goes.

They're expensive because Mike hand-builds them using the highest grade LEDs available. He's also pretty OCD about making the job clean, and he makes it a bolt-in affair (no splicing/rewiring necessary).

They're also bright as FUCK, and I hated driving behind him because I'd end up being blinded by his taillamps.





He's also a totally gay homofag who loves the cock. <--- That's just for him, btw. :keke:

[LA_phantom_240]

No offense to mike, but the price of clearcorners merchandise is a bit over the top as far as price goes. It is quality, definately.... but I could build the same stuff, maybe not 100% as good looking, but it would be leaps and bounds less expensive. How long does mike spend making these?

[sicarius82]

That's the stupidest thing I've heard all week.

:rofl: ... msg length

[burnsauto]

That's the stupidest thing I've heard all week.

yep...you're right. and im a moron for saying it....:spank: :doh: :hammer: :duh:

[Matej]

In every thread about Clearcorners someone complains about the price. If you can't afford it, don't worry about it, I personally can't afford them either, but I'm cool with it. If those lights were cheaper and more people were buying them, he'd go crazy handmaking all of them, plus it adds to their exclusivity this way. I'm sure there are a few people who can afford them, and as long as that's good enough for him to keep his business prosperous, then all is well.

[xkamikazestormx]

No offense to mike, but the price of clearcorners merchandise is a bit over the top as far as price goes. It is quality, definately.... but I could build the same stuff, maybe not 100% as good looking, but it would be leaps and bounds less expensive. How long does mike spend making these?

then why dont you build the same thing and sell it for less and make money.

in every dam thread they complain about their prices. who cares. if you cant afford it, dont worry about it. i agree with matej on that.

[smelly240]

i wanna try to make my own - but it will never be like mike... i want it to be - but it wont.

therefore... im keepin my koukis stock and I'll just dream about having the ballerness.

[babowc]

That's the stupidest thing I've heard all week.



:bowrofl:::rofl:
lol!!

[babowc]

btw.. if you think you can make it, do it.
lets see it done..

if you're afraid of fucking up $500 taillights, go do it on your stock pieces.

[SiI40sx]

You know at first when I still had my "240 owner" mentality I too thought Mike's products were stupid expensive. But once you get passed that mentality and stop comparing everything to the price of the car (because I'm 10000% sure all you guys do that) and realize that your in a hobby that COST MONEY and IS NOT cheap, Mike's product is just like any other QUALITY made product. You want to buy e-bay "LEDS" because its cheaper? Go ahead, but then you realize fuck this thing is crap? And try and sell your "crap" items on here? Yeah...... His product isnt expensive, it's just what a quality product should cost. I think people have since day one taken for granted the price of 240's and 240 parts.

[abstrakt]

1800 dollars for taillights is a joke, Exclusive or not.

[yokotas13]

just like you....

[drift freaq]

You know what? For anyone saying Mikes stuff is overpriced well lets see the first person step with something of the same quality. I have not seen it yet. Nothing compares. He did my S15 headlights and they are downright sick. I needed my headlights converted to LHD from RHD and in the process he recommended some upgrades. I was like oh damn here I go. Fact is when it was done there were at least 3 other people in line wanting the same upgrades because they saw them. Look at the S15 headlights on his site :D. Ya baby, I think they were worth every penny.

[DisEpyon]

wow, when i made this thread i didnt meant it for people to bitch and moan to each other about prices, i was just wondering what the difference was between the original and what mike did and how much better it is.

So please stop!!!

[mrmephistopheles]

yep...you're right. and im a moron for saying it....:spank: :doh: :hammer: :duh:

:keke: No worries - at least you didn't take my comment to heart. +rep for you. :D

if you're afraid of fucking up $500 taillights, go do it on your stock pieces.

That's another selling point for Mike - he works with this stuff all day long, even has his own industrial oven to help (the smaller, precise temperature kind, not the 'bake 10 cakes' kind).

You know at first when I still had my "240 owner" mentality I too thought Mike's products were stupid expensive.

Mike doesn't have as much of a problem with his other customers - that is, the ones with NSX's and GT-Rs, etc. I agree with you on the '240 owner' mentality. I have it, for sure, but I also have the capability of looking past it.

wow, when i made this thread i didnt meant it for people to bitch and moan to each other about prices, i was just wondering what the difference was between the original and what mike did and how much better it is.

So please stop!!!

Yes, let's just talk about the product, not the price. I'm dying for Mike to come in here and add his $0.02. I can't wait to tell him I have an HID kit in my reflector housing Silvia headlamps. :keke:

[Skullavera]

I've seen the lamps and the pics I'm sure don't do them justice, and they still look bad ass! I'd love to get some but that will be if my car makes it to that point lol. I'll just rock some OEM Type-X tails when articdragon192 sells me his! :keke:

[ixfxi]

Kevin> Yes, let's just talk about the product, not the price. I'm dying for Mike to come in here and add his $0.02. I can't wait to tell him I have an HID kit in my reflector housing Silvia headlamps.

Nowadays, I kinda enjoy sitting back and letting you guys do all the retorting. I really dont have the time and interest to sit here on the net and talk about the fabrications that happen at the shop. I'de rather keep Zilvia the type of place where I enjoy talking about nonsense or random shit in off-topic.

For those that arent aware, Zilvia is one of my few salvations of a forum. Its the only place where old schoolers are here and I can enjoy NOT being apart of the industry. I dont care for publicity. I dont attend shows or race events. Rather than whore-out a company, I'de rather put that energy into our creations.

If you think something is expensive, you're right... it is expensive -- for you. Always remember, the word "expensive" varies from person to person. Classic example, I had one S13 owner come in and a G35-C owner was there at the same time. The 240SX owner spent $200 on his very functional Cibie 200mm ECE headlamps + high output bulbs. The G35-C owner spent $500 on interior lights. Obviously, the G35-C is a much more expensive car, and rightfully so. I just think its ironic how the S13 owner stretched for a pair of QUALITY headlamps, while the other spent double on aesthetics for his interior.

Some people really need to understand this. For instance, if you live in New York or Los Angeles, you're paying more for EVERYTHING than you would if you live in Louisiana. So, it is what it is. I cant own a Ferrari. I dont think they are over-priced and they're obviously amazing cars, I just say I cannot afford one and that they are not for me. Plain and simple: they're not in my budget, hey maybe one day that can change.

We specialize in building top-notch stuff. If you cant understand this, you need to look past the 240SX community and look at other car forums. Read up on 350Z forums, look at the costs of ownership and maintenance. Then, compare that to the Mercedes forums. Then, compare that to the Porsche or Ferrari forums. You'll quickly understand the differences, and how the more expensive cars cost more because they are built better. There IS a difference between a 240SX and an EVO, an EVO and a Corvette, and a Corvette and a Carrera GT.

If you own an expensive car, the last thing you want to do is have an unskilled individual work on it. You'll quickly learn the meaning of liability, and how frustrating it can be to receive SUB PAR craftsmanship. There's nothing worse than spending money on mistakes that cost you more in the long run. You gotta pay to play in this industry. Things cost money because they save money.

[ixfxi]

http://www.clearcorners.com/reviews/article_02/jdmrice.gif
Vid Link Here: http://www.clearcorners.com/reviews/article_02/jdmrice.mpg

For those wondering, here is a link to the JDM rice car (#2 I think?) at the track, Benson was rockin it. Anyway, you can see the tail lamps in action. Its not real life, but its something. IMO, a better taillamp for the S13 does not exist.

More pics of JDM rice: http://www.clearcorners.com/reviews/article_02/

Here are some more videos that our customers have added up:
http://youtube.com/results?search_query=clearcorners.com&search=Search

The Toyota MR2 in the UK is awesome, the taillamps are serious business. Every MR2 owner envies them.

[SimpleSexy180]

woot for led....


yeah.....


?

[Ca_laurier]

those led ones put my kouki's to shame

lol but i am still in love with mine

either way and you hit something with your back end i would rather lose some one my oem cheaper kouki's

[punxva]

That's the stupidest thing I've heard all week.


Thats the funniest thing i've heard all week kevin lol

but on topic, what mike does is time consuming, and just plain tedious, and for what he charges, i believe it's fair.

[mrmephistopheles]

either way and you hit something with your back end i would rather lose some one my oem cheaper kouki's

I'm fairly certain that none of us plan our car buildups around what COULD happen. That's like saying:

'Well fuck I'm not repainting my car - someone could open their door into it and scratch it'.

'I don't want to get nice wheels - I might curb them, or hit a pothole!'

'Don't want to put an SR in - I may misshift and blow it up!'

'Not going to buy new tires - I may run over a nail!'

That's dumb reasoning. I know what you're getting at - it's just a dumb way to state it.
You should've said something like 'I'm paranoid about my car being damaged, and I'd feel safer if I didn't have as much money invested in it'.

[burnsauto]

Kevin> Yes, let's just talk about the product, not the price. I'm dying for Mike to come in here and add his $0.02. I can't wait to tell him I have an HID kit in my reflector housing Silvia headlamps.

Nowadays, I kinda enjoy sitting back and letting you guys do all the retorting. I really dont have the time and interest to sit here on the net and talk about the fabrications that happen at the shop. I'de rather keep Zilvia the type of place where I enjoy talking about nonsense or random shit in off-topic.

For those that arent aware, Zilvia is one of my few salvations of a forum. Its the only place where old schoolers are here and I can enjoy NOT being apart of the industry. I dont care for publicity. I dont attend shows or race events. Rather than whore-out a company, I'de rather put that energy into our creations.

If you think something is expensive, you're right... it is expensive -- for you. Always remember, the word "expensive" varies from person to person. Classic example, I had one S13 owner come in and a G35-C owner was there at the same time. The 240SX owner spent $200 on his very functional Cibie 200mm ECE headlamps + high output bulbs. The G35-C owner spent $500 on interior lights. Obviously, the G35-C is a much more expensive car, and rightfully so. I just think its ironic how the S13 owner stretched for a pair of QUALITY headlamps, while the other spent double on aesthetics for his interior.

Some people really need to understand this. For instance, if you live in New York or Los Angeles, you're paying more for EVERYTHING than you would if you live in Louisiana. So, it is what it is. I cant own a Ferrari. I dont think they are over-priced and they're obviously amazing cars, I just say I cannot afford one and that they are not for me. Plain and simple: they're not in my budget, hey maybe one day that can change.

We specialize in building top-notch stuff. If you cant understand this, you need to look past the 240SX community and look at other car forums. Read up on 350Z forums, look at the costs of ownership and maintenance. Then, compare that to the Mercedes forums. Then, compare that to the Porsche or Ferrari forums. You'll quickly understand the differences, and how the more expensive cars cost more because they are built better. There IS a difference between a 240SX and an EVO, an EVO and a Corvette, and a Corvette and a Carrera GT.

If you own an expensive car, the last thing you want to do is have an unskilled individual work on it. You'll quickly learn the meaning of liability, and how frustrating it can be to receive SUB PAR craftsmanship. There's nothing worse than spending money on mistakes that cost you more in the long run. You gotta pay to play in this industry. Things cost money because they save money.

well put. i rarely complain about prices, i work with a guy who tunes an S4...now thats money, when you can find the parts. Talking with him kinda humbled me and made me realize im either going to deal with it, or im just not going to be in the game at all.

[ThatGuy]

...Many words...

This, ladies and gentlemen, is why Mike is both loved and hated on Zilvia.net.

Why he was Banned, yet invited back.

Why he is an asshole, yet a wealth of knowledge and essential to the betterment of Zilvia.

Mike we Love/Hate you. :D

[wannabe_drifter]

Awesome tails !!!
Expensive yea, especially for me, but fuck they look good !!!
I'd totally get some if I could

3rd braking light conversion too looks awesome !!

[drift freaq]

I think my new car is going to get the tail treatment.

[ixfxi]

A quick break-down for those who are confused about pricing:

1) Dont want your center panel and lower metal panel painted? NO PROBLEM! Less work for us. That will cut down the cost of having to take these parts to our painter and having them color-matched.

2) Whats that, you already have US-spec connectors for your J-spec taillamps? Awesome. This means we wont have to purchase them new from NISSAN and use them for the build-up. That saves a few pennies as well.

3) You already have 180SX taillamps and just want the taillamps converted? OK. FYI, the product listed online includes ALL new OEM parts direct from NISSAN. If you have the taillamps and they are in good condition (not used shit), then maybe we can use those. MAYBE. This would require careful inspection.

We work with new parts because they are clean and the seals are all new. If these lights are used for a car thats a 2006 model, no biggie. But the 180SX taillamps were available from 96-98, thats near 10+ years of being USED. Seals and plastics wont be in as good condition as when new.

We warranty our work and product for 1 year when built off of NEW parts. If you have used parts, we may or may not warranty them - they need to be inspected.

Best thing to do is if you're interested, come by our office or just give us a call if you're not local.


ca_laurier> either way and you hit something with your back end i would rather lose some one my oem cheaper kouki's

Build your car up with whatever you feel you can justify having on your car. I have an easy $2000 in suspension alone in my S13, wheels/tires are fairly pricey, as are the seats, lighting, and motor. All in all, I could care less if it gets stolen or damaged. Though, I built my car so that it DOESNT get smashed or damaged. But, such is life.. there are risks everywhere.

If your car is daily driven, you PROBABLY dont want any of our products.

Just some cheap advice.

[delphis]

I will be getting the silvia headlamps upgrade on my car and it will be daily driver.