S14 - What can 20,000 dollars buy?

[jvanquish]

Just wondering ... trying to buy a pre-prepped/pre-modded race car
SR20DET required

[Gavster]

It can buy a pile of parts in my garage :) lol...seriously. But in all seriousness, 20k can buy you a silly s14 if you can find one worth it. Hell, you can buy a great S14 for about 10-12 and build from there. Best way to go about it though is buy a shell and build it yourself, if you have a 20k budget that is...

[drifting_changed_mylife]

ill sell you my s13 for 7500..

its got a sr20det black top with top mount t3 super 60 turbo megan coilovers 300zx brake upgrades 300zx maf anf apexi engine managment

[jvanquish]

really tho... buying someone elses car discounts a lot of the aftermarket tuner part depreciation issue... i think thats really the reason im leaning more towards that idea than building a beat up car and spending too much time on it... (time is money... installation and build time adds up to not having the car)
Maybe its just laziness too

[Prok0]

It could get you a fully prepped S14 race chassis with an SR in it. All ready for you to get nasty..

http://storesense.megawebservers.com/HS318/-strse-1482/ER-Spec-S14-Race/Detail.bok

[2fast4y0u]

enjukus car is SICK! 20k can get you a whole ton-o-parts that could make any s14 rediculous! i have about 10k invested in my car and its getting there.

[jvanquish]

^i think thats what im talking about...
depreciation in parts and labor results in a shear $10,000 savings... from that car
i think i saw that car on ebay haha
im gonna graduate university soon so I can have $$$ to buy another car thats why im asking this question

[VROOOM]

just make sure you dont buy someones problems. that happens quite often

[tacotacotaco]

Man you missed out on usdmsilvia's car in the for sale.

[blu808]

I sold this one for 18k. JR from drift alliance now owns it.

http://www.lukelonberger.com/media/formulad/7082283_G.jpg

Thats alot for a beat up race car

[Jakob]

you could have bought norms car... it is sex on wheels

[SimpleS14]

Does it have to be a race car? (i.e. track only)

You should consider buying my friend's car: http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=159854

[Irukandji]

Norm (usdmsilvia) is selling his s14. It's STUPID clean, and it's 19k. But chances are you don't have the money for it

[jvanquish]

Norm (usdmsilvia) is selling his s14. It's STUPID clean, and it's 19k. But chances are you don't have the money for it

i think i might not have 20grand cash up front but here in america they invented credit and loans to front payments for cars and i pay a certain percentage of the loan back per month for how which ever many months i choose ...
so... :-/

[ManoNegra]

Taking out loans and getting into debt to buy a race-prepped car, ie - money pit, is just not a good idea imo. But hey, you're only 22 once...

[Okinawandrifter87]

Taking out loans and getting into debt to buy a race-prepped car, ie - money pit, is just not a good idea imo. But hey, you're only 22 once...


hahaha werd to the fullest :rofl:

[x'ed]

i think i might not have 20grand cash up front but here in america they invented credit and loans to front payments for cars and i pay a certain percentage of the loan back per month for how which ever many months i choose ...
so... :-/


are you an experienced racer? if not, i would suggest buying a beat s13, modding the suspension and learning how to drive fast first. for 20k an s14 can be stupid fast and would be dangerous in the hands of an inexperienced driver. What type of racing do you plan on doing?

[SimpleS14]

i think i might not have 20grand cash up front but here in america they invented credit and loans to front payments for cars and i pay a certain percentage of the loan back per month for how which ever many months i choose ...
so... :-/

Technically you don't have the money then...your initial post gave off the idea that you did (IMO).


I would never take out a loan for a modded car or even to mod a car. Something goes wrong and you don't have the proper financial backing...your SOL.

[Koopa Troopa]

Engine
HKS T04S
Trust Type R wastegate (48mm, I think)
Tomei 270 degree duration 12.5mm lift cams
Tomei cam gears
Tomei solid lifters
Tomei double valve springs
Tomei rocker arm stoppers
SR20DE throttle body
Intake has been ported
Trust 6qt baffled oil pan
Delphi 3 core aluminum radiator
Unkown electric fans
Oil pickup has been milled out for better pickup
Sard FPR
Sard 850cc injectors
GTR fuel pump
Trust FMIC
1.2mm Greddy metal headgasket
ARP rod and head bolts
Greddy Type R BOV
MoTeC M4 ECU
Buddy Club Spec II catback exhaust w/ test pipe
Custom turboback downpipePowertrain
OS Giken twin plate clutch
CA transmission
Kaaz 2 way diff with 4.3 final drive
Tust short throw shifterSuspension, wheels, tires and brakes
33 GTR wheels
33 GTR Brembo calipers (front)
245/45/17 Falken Azenis RT615
Endless CCX Carbon pads (front)
Apex'i 2 peice slotted rotors (front)
Swage stainless braided brake lines (front)
Cusco brake master cylinder brace
Cusco Comp S coilovers (now blown)
Stark brand tension control rods
Greddy front strut tower bar
Unkown pink swaybarsInterior

Recaro SRIII Cockpit Special Edition (passenger)
Recaro SPG (driver)
Autobacs D1 Special steering wheel
Flava Flav edition Blitz boost guage
PTCS D200 dash logger
Cusco lightweight 8 point roll cage
Broadway wideangle mirror
Here's a list of shit done to my car and I've prolly got a little over 25K into it if I added shit up. Granted this list isn't all the 25K either and I'm still going buying shit as well..

[JRas]

agreed, instead of taking out a loan buy something you can fix up and work your way up to that 20k car

[jvanquish]

Technically you don't have the money then...your initial post gave off the idea that you did (IMO).


I would never take out a loan for a modded car or even to mod a car. Something goes wrong and you don't have the proper financial backing...your SOL.

i got a bmw 330 sedan as my daily driver
...
i still think buying a modded car has less depreciation than buying a new car

[axiomatik]

taking out a $20k loan to buy a ten year old car is dumb. you'll get raped on the interest, as banks generally charge higher interest rates the older a car is.

[Koopa Troopa]

Hell for 20K I'll ship you my car.

[statik]

seriously, don't do it, that is all

[Gavster]

hate to be kind of a dick...but dont you guys think an experienced driver would know exactly what he/she would want out of a car for 20k, not only that but want to build it themselves...i spend a lot of time at the track and i know pretty much what it would cost to get into just about any sort of car, race car or daily...im not sayin' im just sayin'. If you are inexperienced, which it sounds like you might be, do what others are saying, and buy a beater to learn on! BTW since Ive seen this thread, why has your age gone from 18 to 20, then to 22 now??? 4 birthdays today or what?

[jvanquish]

hate to be kind of a dick...but dont you guys think an experienced driver would know exactly what he/she would want out of a car for 20k, not only that but want to build it themselves...i spend a lot of time at the track and i know pretty much what it would cost to get into just about any sort of car, race car or daily...im not sayin' im just sayin'. If you are inexperienced, which it sounds like you might be, do what others are saying, and buy a beater to learn on! BTW since Ive seen this thread, why has your age gone from 18 to 20, then to 22 now??? 4 birthdays today or what?

well im graduating school and i just turned 22... i just updated the birthday feature cuz i havent came on this forum for such a long time...
im just asking what can i buy b/c im not familiar with the 240sx cuz parts depreciate along with labor...
so ball parking 20k including parts and labor and car isnt necessarily the case ie. enjuku racing's car costed significantly more than 13k to prep but its going for $13k

so...

capital-one blank check lets u buy any car so it doesnt matter how old the car is.. its same interest btw

[VROOOM]

you have to update your birthday? when you graduate school do they change your birthday?

[Koopa Troopa]

hate to be kind of a dick...but dont you guys think an experienced driver would know exactly what he/she would want out of a car for 20k, not only that but want to build it themselves..

I'm a crappy driver but I could tell you exactly what I'd want for 20K. :bigok:


Man if I had 20K... I'd build a badass EK9 or EG6.

[steve shadows]

Just wondering ... trying to buy a pre-prepped/pre-modded race car
SR20DET required

I built my setup for less than this

close but a little less.

Im still missing a good roll bar, R comps and extra set of track wheels.

you can build a pretty good race car if you really record how you spend for 20k with a chasis as cheap as the 13

just remeber whatever you put into the car, cut it in half. thats how shitty of an investment these cars are now

fuck F and F 3

it ruined EVERYTHING

and I mean evertyhing

it was the housing market crash for the 240sx community.

they might as well be honda civic ef's now

[SimpleS14]

i still think buying a modded car has less depreciation than buying a new car

Please give me an example where buying a modded car (japanse import for $20K) will have a deprecation rate less than that of a new car. Not ragging on you or anything of that nature, I'm just curious.

I say buy a junker and build it up to your wants and needs.


However, if you want a decent S14..there is a nice track S14 for sale in VA for 9K which I think is a damn steal.

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=157895

[steve shadows]

Please give me an example where buying a modded car (japanse import for $20K) will have a deprecation rate less than that of a new car. Not ragging on you or anything of that nature, I'm just curious.

it will be more imo

[VROOOM]

I'm a crappy driver but I could tell you exactly what I'd want for 20K. :bigok:


Man if I had 20K... I'd build a badass EK9 or EG6.


after you built it you would want your 240sx back i promise. some drunk hit my 240 and i bought a civic fixed it up. realized that hondas arent more fun, sold it to a friend for as much as the motor cost me. and bought another 240sx. im happy again.

[SimpleS14]

it will be more imo

Yea I think so too, but the OP doesn't think so....just curious if he can give me an example.

[Koopa Troopa]

after you built it you would want your 240sx back i promise. some drunk hit my 240 and i bought a civic fixed it up. realized that hondas arent more fun, sold it to a friend for as much as the motor cost me. and bought another 240sx. im happy again.

A meccha tuned CTR would be perfect for what I do... The 14 just keeps things fun on straights as well as the mountain.

But yeah, wen't from a 1990 fastback to a 84 Starion with an 88 motor in it to a '93 180 with some stuff to a 93 S14 with some stuff and I couldn't be happier in the 14. Took awhile to get used to but it's a great car.

[Anto]

Buy a spaceship.

or a schoolbus. i've always wanted someone to tune a schoolbus.

6" turboback? haha

[Seven]

What happened to the 350z sir?

[jvanquish]

Yea I think so too, but the OP doesn't think so....just curious if he can give me an example.



OK i will give you example

say I buy Enjuku racing car for 13k + motor install of $X
After 1 year of use, granted that car still functions as first delivered - because parts and services alrdy depreciated from the first transaction (Enjuku to me where Enjuku racing lost money through the sale), most likely the car is still worth about $13k + $X

Where as a new car will suffer a heavy first year depreciation ... Ie. 2006 BMW or Audi or Mercedes in 2007 with regular use loses at least $5k off price paid

[jvanquish]

What happened to the 350z sir?

350z vandalized so I got rid of it and got a bmw daily driver and waiting winter to buy a rwd car (when its cheapest)

[vvtisupra]

Hell I'll sell you mine for 14 k

[jesuchristo]

OK i will give you example

say I buy Enjuku racing car for 13k + motor install of
After 1 year of use, granted that car still functions as first delivered - because parts and services alrdy depreciated from the first transaction (Enjuku to me where Enjuku racing lost money through the sale), most likely the car is still worth about $13k +

Where as a new car will suffer a heavy first year depreciation ... Ie. 2006 BMW or Audi or Mercedes in 2007 with regular use loses at least $5k off price paid

You really expect for a race car to "still function as first delivered" After a year of racing it with $0 invested?

Or are you gunna spend $20k on a tyte modded car just to baby it and daily drive it?

S-14s are cool, but if I was given a 20k budget for a car I wouldn't spend it on that.... 2 S-14s maybe :P

Shit if I had 20k to spend on a 240 I would spend 5k on the shell, 10k on parts and the other 5k pimping my garage out with tools :P

Either way, buying a pimped out race car just to say you own a race car = gay

Building a pimped out race car just to say you own a race car = gangster

[lflkajfj12123]

I'm a crappy driver but I could tell you exactly what I'd want for 20K. :bigok:


Man if I had 20K... I'd build a badass EK9 or EG6.

built EG for sure dream honda is eg h22 turbo fully built

or a built FD definetly get more out of than a 240

[SimpleS14]

OK i will give you example

say I buy Enjuku racing car for 13k + motor install of
After 1 year of use, granted that car still functions as first delivered - because parts and services alrdy depreciated from the first transaction (Enjuku to me where Enjuku racing lost money through the sale), most likely the car is still worth about $13k +

Where as a new car will suffer a heavy first year depreciation ... Ie. 2006 BMW or Audi or Mercedes in 2007 with regular use loses at least $5k off price paid

I was hoping you would give me a viable example (actual occurrence) rather than speculation, but its ok...its not like your doing a college paper or thesis statement. :)

[UfoZ8myCow]

http://www.gardenofeden.net/lil/failboat.jpg



Words that you should live by: BUILT not BOUGHT.

And have fun buying a 10-13 year old car for $20k and then having a 19%+ APR on your loan. By the time you actually pay that shit off doing monthly payments you will have spent well over $30k (ie that's fuckin' dumb).

[!Zar!]

If I had 20k I'd expand my pimping enterprise.

[dori_pho]

hi i have an s14 and trying 2 find a place where i can get my wire done for an sr20det black top? guys any info i'd appreciate it

[!Zar!]

Wtf. This isn't the, "My shit is broke thread".

[dori_pho]

im also selling my kukie front end i have d-1 fenders brand new not even painted have kukie headlights side lamp. replica rear bumper of the vortex kit, hood and jdm kukie bumper w side markers ambers anyone interested going for 1,200 obo any questions call me at 831-905-9086 thanks.

[Frosty_spl]

20k won't buy you common since. Apparently.

[Illestdrift]

take $5,000 build a car to get used to driving/racing or whatever you want to do with it, and save that extra $$ till you need it. just cause you have a fully built track car doesn't make you a good driver.

[!Zar!]

im also selling my kukie front end i have d-1 fenders brand new not even painted have kukie headlights side lamp. replica rear bumper of the vortex kit, hood and jdm kukie bumper w side markers ambers anyone interested going for 1,200 obo any questions call me at 831-905-9086 thanks.

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[SimpleS14]

Wtf is wrong with you.


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It's probably a weak joke the poster is doing....i think.

[vw_nissan]

i think i might not have 20grand cash up front but here in america they invented credit and loans to front payments for cars and i pay a certain percentage of the loan back per month for how which ever many months i choose ...
so... :-/

You have to be an idiot to take out a loan to modify your car.

[jesuchristo]

hi i have an s14 and trying 2 find a place where i can get my wire done for an sr20det black top? guys any info i'd appreciate it

I'll do it for $20k, I need to buy a new race car.

[jesuchristo]

Wtf is wrong with you.


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