SARD Torque Control Valve

[iRun]

Ordered this from More-japan on Thursday and the UPS man nocked on my door this morining. Just wanted to post up some pics. Its the SARD Torque Control Valve, regulates the diameter of the exhaust piping. TCV has smaller piping diameter to give you torque at low rpm and opens up to give you more power up top. Im very impressed with the quality of the product. Im planning on installing it this coming weekend when Im free and Ill keep you guys updated.

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd190/pharcyderacer/SSRMS1008sml.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd190/pharcyderacer/SSRMS1003sml.jpg

[Nikeboy355]

Looks like that fits where the stock cat goes...

How much and is there any controls or does it just work by itself?

[5t341tH]

i believe that one works by itself. apexi makes something similar to this and you can control it :)

[iRun]

Looks like that fits where the stock cat goes...

How much and is there any controls or does it just work by itself?

Yeah it basically bolts up where the stock cat is. It works off of exhaust backpressure. There is a spring loaded valve aand when exhaust pressures reach a certain limit, then the valve opens up releasing the backpressure.

[burnsauto]

i believe that one works by itself. apexi makes something similar to this and you can control it :)

yeah ive seen that thing before, its got a throttle cable setup on it (or something along those lines..) i was wondering how this setup worked....does the line go into the cars interior and you manually change the valves position, or does it run into the engine band and works off the throttle body...

[driftenthusiast]

I have one friend with this, he says he felt a difference, but you can hear a rattle from inside it at low RPM.

[gotta240]

How Much?! .

[iRun]

I paid $230 for it.

[5t341tH]

yeah ive seen that thing before, its got a throttle cable setup on it (or something along those lines..) i was wondering how this setup worked....does the line go into the cars interior and you manually change the valves position, or does it run into the engine band and works off the throttle body...
yea it goes into the interior and u can pull? it so it opens up

[Jung918]

Let us know how it goes. I was planning on getting one also.
I think some of you guys are mistaken this for the apexi one. That ones uses a cable that you route inside of the car to adjust the valve.
This sard product uses a spring system inside. When there is more pressure it opens up more.

Just FYI, Kure Motorsports is the US importer for sard.

[Ian]

Kure International actually


I've driven a car with one...I couldn't tell you if it did anything but rattle and help for noise at low throttle...

[KwKouki]

I was under the impression that the Apexi one was for exhaust note not performance

[bloodangels13]

I have one friend with this, he says he felt a difference, but you can hear a rattle from inside it at low RPM.

that would be me.... i ran a 3'' test pipe before i could tell it made a nice difference... i drove it both ways the same day i changed to the sard tcv.. for daily the rattle is a lil annoyin to some but i got use to it... the increace in low end punch and slightly quicker spool make it all worth it
i've ran mine for about a year now with no issues also it did quit my car down a noticable amount ... when i first ran the TCV i ran a 3'' apexi N1 now im running a dual n1 and its even more of a difference

[Jung918]

^ Kure needs to make up their mind because their websie is http://www.kuremotorsports.com/

[PhilthyS13]

I've had one of these for over 6 months. I'm really happy with it. I had a 3.7 inch exhaust before with a test pipe, so it was pretty loud. I got a new 3 inch exhaust with this, so I can't make a pepsi challenge comparison, but I am really happy with it. It is quieter at low rpms, and it does open up when you hit the gas.

It's basically a 3 inch mushroom shaped plunger with a 1-1.5 inch hole in the center, so at low rpm is remains closed (exhaust passes through the small hole). You can see it best in the bottom pic. When you step on it, the plunger moves back, opening up to the full width of the pipe.

It does rattle slightly, but that's just when warming up the car and the rpms are up a little - like 2kish. It sounds like finger cymbals that belly dancers use. Not very bad and only noticeable to you.

It's rebuildable, too.

[jobestudios]

post pics looking inside please :) I wonder what system the mines r34 uses, looks completely different, and computer controlled.

[!Zar!]

I've had this for ages.

It's a waste of money. All it does is quiets your car down a little.

Let alone, it's pointless to have any backpressure on a turbo car.

After time the soot and age will make the plunger stick.

Shit is weak.

[iRun]

Here's a pic of the inside. When exhaust pressure builds up, the valve opens and exhaust gas is allowed to flow through the hole as well as around the sides. Here's the link to the full description:

http://www.more-japan.com/SARD-Torque-Control-Valve-TCV-for-ALL-Nissans-p-16892.html
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd190/pharcyderacer/SSRMS1006sml.jpg

[steve shadows]

Yeah it basically bolts up where the stock cat is. It works off of exhaust backpressure. There is a spring loaded valve aand when exhaust pressures reach a certain limit, then the valve opens up releasing the backpressure.

that sounds like a horrible nightmare.

no thanks

[smelly240]

I'm not sure what kind of car i would put this on... but i know it wouldnt be mine.

I have a 3in hiflow cat and that quieted my car down some (til the ewg opens anyway) and it made it sound deeper - where before it sounded snarly and mean... so if u want the car quieter just get a cat (i got a cat because i need it to get my car registered as a collectible - must meet certain amount of emissions regulations :( )

[azndoc]

I've always known it to be Kure International. Their great people. Dealt with them alot over the past year.

Both the website

www.kuremotorsports.com
and
www.kure-international.com

both websites works and lead to the company.

[Nikeboy355]

I agree with Steve... This is not a good thing...

[Koopa Troopa]

I was under the impression that the Apexi one was for exhaust note not performance
You are correct

[Jung918]

I've always known it to be Kure International. Their great people. Dealt with them alot over the past year.

Both the website

www.kuremotorsports.com
and
www.kure-international.com

both websites works and lead to the company.

Do you have an account with them?

[iRun]

There's alot of hater's but I wouldnt knock a product before youve tried it. A few members on here have run this with sucess and my cousin actually runs this on his 240 and he likes it. So I will install it and keep you guys posted.

[GSXRJJordan]

The only way I'd put up with any additional rattles (especially in the cop-unfriendly zone of idle-3000rpm) would be if it could spool a GT3071 or TD06-20G a few hundred RPM faster... otherwise I'll just stick with a $30 straight 3" test pipe into my Apexi WS Noir. Let us know how you like it, and what kind of setup you're running.

[!Zar!]

I've had this for ages.

It's a waste of money. All it does is quiets your car down a little.

Let alone, it's pointless to have any backpressure on a turbo car.

After time the soot and age will make the plunger stick.

Shit is weak.

There's alot of hater's but I wouldnt knock a product before youve tried it. A few members on here have run this with sucess and my cousin actually runs this on his 240 and he likes it. So I will install it and keep you guys posted.

You Fail.

Your friend is just hurt over the fact that his butt dyno is the only thing that changed when he installed that.

[steve shadows]

oooooh I love butt dynos!

[misfitsfreak81]

Do you have an account with them?

I do. Do you need something? let me know.

mike
North Shore Performance Auto

[EAT Motorsports]

SARD TCV is on sale for $160 these are best to quiet your car down and give you some backpressure out of boost... less drone less poping with that 3inch exhaust. It will give you some low end and isn't much more expensive than what some test pipes are going for...

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=167288

[!Zar!]

It also sucks when you have a lowered car.

As well as rattles which in turn makes your car sound like it's falling apart when idle.

[steve shadows]

^ and to help ruin everything especially overall output and performance.

oh boy...

Why didnt I think to invent a shiny tube to gets rid of turbo lag.

I could then legally change my name to "the physics magician" and perform other tricks like stealing your horsepower at the same time as well as bending time and space.

[xplicit240]

lolz imagine that things gets stuck. your f*cked. specially with cold and hot weather in the north east i dont know if i can trust that. just get a good exhaust and a cat. im running a trust power extreme 2 and an ebay whatever test pipe and mine is quiet. my neighbor whos a cop doesnt even bother me.

[steve shadows]

You should come to california.

If they think your car is "raced out"

you are shot on sight

well basically

[!Zar!]

Cops give tickets on stock looking custom exhaust up here.

[steve shadows]

same here :fawk2:

[MadScientist]

I have this on my S14... works nice but yes it does have a rattle about 2000rpms. other then that, I like it.

If you use it long enough to get carbon build up on the valve... the canister can be seperated and the valve can be taken out, to clean!

The flange that alows you to take the unit apart should only effect super slammed cars... but if your slammed, you will be scraping everything anyway!!

bla bla bla....

-Drew

[!Zar!]

I have this on my S14... works nice but yes it does have a rattle about 2000rpms. other then that, I like it.

If you use it long enough to get carbon build up on the valve... the canister can be seperated and the valve can be taken out, to clean!

The flange that alows you to take the unit apart should only effect super slammed cars... but if your slammed, you will be scraping everything anyway!!

bla bla bla....

-Drew

Same here.

I've already taken it apart to maintain it. It just sucks that it's so much lower than everything else on my car. I scrape the hell out of it, but who cars.

Nobody looks under my car.

[steve shadows]

I would love to see this in a before and after on a dyno.

[chibo]

I would love to see this in a before and after on a dyno.I dunno about a turbo car but this is similar to ExUP on Yamaha bikes. Made a difference in torque down low, but that is just my ass dyno talking and the engine setups here can't even be close.