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ROIDMONKEY
09-22-2007, 10:58 AM
Hey bro's
im all pumped up to get my big brake kit my budget is about 1000 or maybe a bit more . but dont want to go crazy
this is what i came up with since i still have the 4 lug
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f248/Ajfina/1182231908_2_FT361_p1010179.jpg
this rotor are 760 shipped to me front and rear sets 13 inch, what i like about ,,is that comes ready for 4 and 5 lugs like i said i still have the 4 lug and no planning on wheel changing for a bit , I can use those rotors with the 4 lugs setup and when im ready to do the 5 lug conversion i can still use them :)
ok now the caliper question
Z32 calipers right? they run for 200-300 i think but i need the front and rear
that right there is allready 1000+ money
thats for the front and rear brake kit , rear is 13inch also
is that a good deal or i can do better with that budget?
there is one thing im not sure about those rotor , if they 30mm or 26mm i mean if the Z32 cali 26mm or30mm would fit on those rotors ? anyone know?
IngS14
09-22-2007, 11:46 AM
z32 tt calipers front and rear used + z32 2+2 rear ebrake assembly used + new rotors front and rear + new performance pads front and rear + new ss braided lines = $900 proximintly !!
$1000 not even enough for aftermarket front bigbrake kit from any company dude!
Koopa Troopa
09-22-2007, 12:07 PM
I fail to see how that Powered by Max kit will do anything other than just add more weight...
ROIDMONKEY
09-22-2007, 12:15 PM
they dont sell a "kit" they sell rotors only and the brakets for the calipers (comes with rotors)
any way to fit Q45 front calipers on the rear? instead of the small z32 calipers?
5t341tH
09-22-2007, 12:46 PM
those max rotors are designed to use stock calipers. that bracket is there for a reason
MrChow
09-22-2007, 12:55 PM
I just posted something about that kit. Search it up.
Your going to see a lot of:
Get better Tires and Wheels
SS lines and fluid
Good pads and brembo blank rotors
Also remember "MAX brake kit" is a rotor kit more or less. You don't get any pads with that. It's just not worth it. If they were like 200 buck or less I'd think about it.
Anyways do some more research. You'll find out a lot. What I did and I'm a happy camper.
KA24DESOneThree
09-22-2007, 01:24 PM
What is your wheel/tire combo?
How much power are you putting down?
What is the intended use for the car? If it sees the track, which track and how often?
These questions can help us determine what you need.
Jtuned_andy
09-22-2007, 02:07 PM
http://gtfactory.jp/cms/maxcat/Brake/large/After.jpg
Those look like Z32 calipers to me, I think the bracket is included so you can use the stock calipers if wanted?
If you plan to use a 330mm rotor and Z32 calipers you will most likely need to upgrade wheels as wheel. Probably want to choose a 17" so there are no back spacing problems for fitting the calipers.
Skullavera
09-22-2007, 02:18 PM
Ok, do you want a big brake kit for performance or looks? To me it seems that you need to sit back and really think about what it is that you want. Let's look at your options:
Q45 Brakes - These are fairly cheap and greatly improve your braking power as you have two pistons instead of one. Combine that with some quality SS lines, pads, and rotors and you'll be good to go.
Z32 Brakes - Better than Q45 obviously as you have four pistons instead of two in the front, and two pistons in the rear if you go that route. Once again just get some quality SS lines, pads, and rotors and you'll have a braking system that you'll rarely, if at all, push to the limit.
You have to realize that the pads and rotors you use make a hell of a difference. You can have z32 brakes on your car but if you're running shitty pads, they won't do anything for you and may even "trick" you into thinking you need better brakes. And by good pads I mean quality, like Endless. You pay to play man.
Braking technique is also something you must understand. If you suck at braking, then you'll suck no matter what brake system you have. I don't know you at all but I'd say that a z32 upgrade will be more than enough for you, and will save you money. If you ever max out the potential of that braking system, then maybe you should think about upgrading but with quality parts, the z32 should provide more than ample braking power for you, if you are indeed looking for performance.
http://gtfactory.jp/cms/maxcat/Brake/large/After.jpg
Those look like Z32 calipers to me, I think the bracket is included so you can use the stock calipers if wanted?
If you plan to use a 330mm rotor and Z32 calipers you will most likely need to upgrade wheels as wheel. Probably want to choose a 17" so there are no back spacing problems for fitting the calipers.
Those are Z32 calipers. The bracket is included because you need it to bring out the calipers far enough to clear the large rotor. You will have to have at least 17" wheels to clear these too.
OptionZero
09-22-2007, 02:25 PM
z32 fronts aren't THAT much better than q45 fronts; if you're only looking for a minor upgrade then get whichver u find cheaper
the advantage of the z32:
- fixed instead of floating (always seemed sloppy to me)
- pad selection, although q45 is improving
advantage of q45:
- usually (depends where u at) cheaper
- clears all wheels, unlike 3z
as everyone else said, if u really wanna stop HARDER, get better tires and pads
if u wanna stop harder longer, upgrade rotors, lines, fluid, and ducting
if u wanna look cool, get brake caliper covers with ENDLESS on them
more info found by SEARCHING
ROIDMONKEY
09-22-2007, 03:04 PM
thanks everyone
the car is in shop right now doing the swap and upgrades, is goign to be around the 330whp. its a daily drive car and yes is pretty much for cool looking brakes. i have the Q45 sitting here (rotors and calipers ) for a while but never install it cause i was using the KA . . i might going to give the Q45 i try since i allready have them , buy a good set of pads and try them , im not sure but i think the Q45 calipers work on the MAX rotors too.
again thanks
and BTW i do have 17 inch wheels
KA24DESOneThree
09-22-2007, 03:40 PM
Daily driver needs nothing more than Z32 brakes. Don't try and be a tough guy and run big brakes to fill out your wheels, but at the same time Q45 brakes look pathetic on a modified car.
By the way, the Parts Shop Max rotors are weaksauce. If you run them you will be guaranteed poser status.
ROIDMONKEY
09-22-2007, 04:01 PM
Daily driver needs nothing more than Z32 brakes. Don't try and be a tough guy and run big brakes to fill out your wheels, but at the same time Q45 brakes look pathetic on a modified car.
By the way, the Parts Shop Max rotors are weaksauce. If you run them you will be guaranteed poser status.
I like what u said LOL
u even confuse me more dude :hsdance:i mean daily drive cause is not a race track car , like most of us here, i do my drifting once an awhile too :)
OptionZero
09-22-2007, 04:06 PM
daily driver doesn't need more than refreshed stock brakes
daily driver doesn't need an SR, either
ROIDMONKEY
09-22-2007, 04:16 PM
Ok go and tell everybody that have SR's that they dont need it for daily drive and go back to KA
UNISA JECS
09-22-2007, 04:21 PM
Since were talking about Q45 and Z32 brakes I been an owner of both complete brake setups on my S13 coupe and here what I can say about both of them stock for stock.
Q45 - awesome brakes, dont look as good as Z32 brakes but they do offer a slight advantage in brake torque over Z32 calipers, this is becasue Q45 calipers even though only have 2 pistons per caliper have more piston area then the Z32 4 piston calipers, alot of people for get that a sliding 2 piston caliper is equal to a 4 piston fixed caliper. Brake bias is also a little better than a Z32 setup, you wont get the rear brakes locking up as much before the fronts like you do with Z32 setup all around.
Z32 - Looks alot better than Q45 calipers but they tottally suck ass for brake bias, i'd actually call these brakes dangerous on a S13, I currently run a full z32 setup but I run Z33 rotors up front which puts my front to rear brake bias basically back to stock. Result way safer and just as good as the Q45 setup.
OptionZero
09-22-2007, 04:26 PM
Ok go and tell everybody that have SR's that they dont need it for daily drive and go back to KA
it's probably too late for you, but if i save even one hopelessly uneducated kid from throwing their money away, then mission accomplished
smelly240
09-22-2007, 04:29 PM
I think that the Q45 are great - i had the z32's but only up front so they felt crappy. I dont like how they look, but they work nice.
UNISA JECS
09-22-2007, 04:29 PM
Brake Bias:
S13
Front 70.5%
Rear 29.5%
Q45
Front 68.5%
Rear 31.5%
Z32
Front 66.5%
Rear 33.5%
Z32 with Z33 front rotors
Front 70.3%
Rear 29.7%
Just 1% makes a noticable difference.
UfoZ8myCow
09-22-2007, 05:30 PM
$760 just for a set of rotors...? Uh, no spank you.
Wilwood 4 piston front brake kit - $800
Hawk pads for the rear - $65
SS rear lines - $40
There arent a whole lot of people that would actually ever need more stopping power than that... Actually, most probably wouldnt even need more than the stock brakes + good pads + SS lines. But whatever.
ROIDMONKEY
09-22-2007, 06:15 PM
it's probably too late for you, but if i save even one hopelessly uneducated kid from throwing their money away, then mission accomplished
Thanks for calling me a kid I'm happy now :)
Thanks for ur opinion ( not very contructive anyway)
ROIDMONKEY
09-22-2007, 06:21 PM
I like the willwood idea , where are they for 800?
smelly240
09-22-2007, 07:50 PM
arizonaZcar
effyoumsglngth
supermariokartdrift
09-22-2007, 11:59 PM
Just last week i found a 91 300zx tt is a junkyard. in good condition but motor pulled. took off the front and rear calipers for $20 each just need rear e brake assemblies. calipers are in good condition just need rebuilding maybe paint too. you might try finding one in a junkyard. i got lucky.
KA24DESOneThree
09-23-2007, 12:04 AM
I have AZCar, I like AZCar.
My car isn't a daily, but is driven on the street. 240 is making ~140whp, weighs under 2200lbs and runs on 245 RE01-Rs. Braking is stupid fast and I still haven't even gotten around to installing my bias valve.
None of you need your SRs for daily drivers. You should all go back to KA.
supermariokartdrift
09-23-2007, 12:25 AM
i found z32 tt calipers at a junkyard for $20 each.
i got the front and rear for 80 total.
you might try at a junkyard. they just need to be cleaned up.
now i have to rebuild them and maybe paint.
you will also have to find the rear e brake assemblies and the hubs for a non turbo zx for the rear calipers. not sure if the tt hubs work
cdlong
09-23-2007, 01:27 AM
not sure if the tt hubs work
they don't.
some other stuff to make this post longer.
there are other options besides z32 and q45 which are great options and are pretty cheap if u look hard enough. If you want a bigger rotor, u can always source 350z/g35 NON brembo calipers and use the g35/350z rotors. They look like the q45 calipers but run a larger rotor if u want to fill up that rim space. People on the fourms usually dump the front set for like $90 - $150 since everyone is hunting down the brembo calipers. Its a fairly simple mod, its been covered alot.
s13monkey
09-25-2007, 04:35 AM
save you money aand get a z32 brake setup with some good pads no need to overkill. i have z32 on my ride and there really good stock brakes have 4 pistons were the z32 has 12 pistons 8 in the front and 4 in the rear plus add some performance pads like endless or hawks and thats all your really need
ROIDMONKEY
09-25-2007, 12:18 PM
I got a set of S14 JDM calipers( like z32) and also ordered a set of MAX for the front only . it was less than 500 for all that .
Not sure if this have been done . i have a set of Q45 calipers(front) with rotors and was thinking if i can use them on the rear?
ZOMG_S14
10-15-2007, 05:03 PM
I got a set of S14 JDM calipers( like z32) and also ordered a set of MAX for the front only . it was less than 500 for all that .
Not sure if this have been done . i have a set of Q45 calipers(front) with rotors and was thinking if i can use them on the rear?
you should sell the q45 setup to me!
OptionZero
10-15-2007, 05:46 PM
you bumped this thread for that?
shit, q45 stuff isnt hard to find, u can get it from kragen anywhere, even trade in your stock stuff as a core
theres many sets on zilvia all the time
ZOMG_S14
10-15-2007, 05:52 PM
yah i mean hes trying to put them on the rear... come on.
i know q45 stuff isnt expensive it was more of a suggestion not to do something stupid.
like, sell your q45 setup and buy z32 rear calipers.
ROIDMONKEY
10-15-2007, 08:24 PM
Thanks anyway bro. And get use to optionzero and he's hate replies all the fucking time looks like he need to fucking JO so he can relief he's drama. To respond on the Q45 thing yes I didnt, I was just wondering , I did some research and found out the answear, anyway I went Z32 on the rear yes
bluemax
10-15-2007, 10:49 PM
somone mentioned arizona z cars and Wilwood brakes.
here's the link and if the price did not change, the 4 pistons would be more than enough for the streets. I haven't priced out the z32 yet but the Willwood they offer comes with everything you you need including ss lines.
http://www.arizonazcar.com/240sxbrakes.html
good luck
rightcoastimports
10-15-2007, 11:04 PM
Ksport makes some nice brakes... front & rears.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g138/RightCoastImports/bbks13.jpg
EDacIouSX
10-15-2007, 11:09 PM
I fail to see how that Powered by Max kit will do anything other than just add more weight...
sounds like you fail to understand what brake torque is. (Brake calipers have better leverage when it is further away from the center of rotation)
OptionZero
10-15-2007, 11:17 PM
Thanks anyway bro. And get use to optionzero and he's hate replies all the fucking time looks like he need to fucking JO so he can relief he's drama. To respond on the Q45 thing yes I didnt, I was just wondering , I did some research and found out the answear, anyway I went Z32 on the rear yes
yeah, but at least i know what brakes i'd get without starting the billionth topic on it
my name is also not typed in capital letters like a tool
Koopa Troopa
10-15-2007, 11:17 PM
Yeah, I'm sure they do. That's why all bigger brake kits mount in the factory position..
EDacIouSX
10-15-2007, 11:27 PM
Yeah, I'm sure they do. That's why all bigger brake kits mount in the factory position..
i dont even know why im going to bother explaining this to you but i will...
aftermarket calipers are designed to mount in stock holes and the caliper dimensions are compensated for larger rotars (calipers are taller).
Z32 are meant for z32 rotars, not 13 inch rotars. the bracket compensates for the larger rotar. when the calpier is further from the center of the rotar it gives the brake caliper more leverage thus increased stopping power. If you don't understand that then I don't know what else to say.
ROIDMONKEY
10-15-2007, 11:29 PM
yeah, but at least i know what brakes i'd get without starting the billionth topic on it
my name is also not typed in capital letters like a tool
LOL you such a looser dude GET A FUCKING LIFE .
4,227 Post,,,,,What a waste
OptionZero
10-16-2007, 12:04 AM
you are such a cookiecutter dumbfuck you're not even worth it
Koopa Troopa
10-16-2007, 06:08 AM
i dont even know why im going to bother explaining this to you but i will...
aftermarket calipers are designed to mount in stock holes and the caliper dimensions are compensated for larger rotars (calipers are taller).
Z32 are meant for z32 rotars, not 13 inch rotars. the bracket compensates for the larger rotar. when the calpier is further from the center of the rotar it gives the brake caliper more leverage thus increased stopping power. If you don't understand that then I don't know what else to say.
No but what I do understand is the same ammount of fluid is traveling to the same piston, using the same sized brake pad. Only thing changing is the location. You're prolly the same guy who told me I need Z32 conversion lines to run my 33 GTR calipers on my 180 too.
The Powered by Max rotor thing is a ricer mod. The Z32 calipers wern't designed for that rotor and that rotor isn't designed for that caliper so how is the caliper suppose to clamp down on the entire rotor? It can't it's just taking a nibble and not a bite.
That kit is so you can run giant rotors to look like you have a big brake kit. Might as well go buy Brembo caliper covers off Ebay while you're at it.
AWDTurbo
10-16-2007, 06:23 AM
I went new OEM calipers with Brembo rotors SS lines and high quality brake pads and it stops on a dime!!!!! literly, Spent nearly 900$ on it all and didnt even get a headache. With good quality brakes OEM calpiers work great, Only way I would go to anything bigger would be if I was doing a 5 lug conversion.
cdlong
10-16-2007, 06:52 AM
No but what I do understand is the same ammount of fluid is traveling to the same piston, using the same sized brake pad. Only thing changing is the location. You're prolly the same guy who told me I need Z32 conversion lines to run my 33 GTR calipers on my 180 too.
The Powered by Max rotor thing is a ricer mod. The Z32 calipers wern't designed for that rotor and that rotor isn't designed for that caliper so how is the caliper suppose to clamp down on the entire rotor? It can't it's just taking a nibble and not a bite.
That kit is so you can run giant rotors to look like you have a big brake kit. Might as well go buy Brembo caliper covers off Ebay while you're at it.
hi, i'm basic physics, have we met?
apparently not.
Koopa Troopa
10-16-2007, 07:08 AM
Please explain this to me.. Obviously I'm not seeing the picture.
It's a hydraulic system and all you're doing is changing the position of the item. You're not changing the ammount of fluid, pressure, driving force or mass. In fact you're just adding more mass for the smaller caliper to stop.
I still have yet to receive an educated answer. If you can't give a rebuttal then I'm going to stand by my answer.
cdlong
10-16-2007, 07:10 AM
No but what I do understand is the same ammount of fluid is traveling to the same piston, using the same sized brake pad. Only thing changing is the location. You're prolly the same guy who told me I need Z32 conversion lines to run my 33 GTR calipers on my 180 too.
The Powered by Max rotor thing is a ricer mod. The Z32 calipers wern't designed for that rotor and that rotor isn't designed for that caliper so how is the caliper suppose to clamp down on the entire rotor? It can't it's just taking a nibble and not a bite.
That kit is so you can run giant rotors to look like you have a big brake kit. Might as well go buy Brembo caliper covers off Ebay while you're at it.
ok, now for the real post.
optimal? no
ricer? yes
improvement over stock z32? yes (at least in some ways)
moving the center of the pad out from the axis of rotation increases the braking torque. basic torque-> force times lever arm. the amount of fluid and pad contact area don't matter. helpful if you run sticky tires.
a larger, heavier rotor can absorb more energy before overheating and theoretically disipate heat faster (at least good rotors do).
pad contact area only matters in the case of pad wear and heat absorption. given the same force from the caliper, pads of different sizes will create the same friction force. with the same force, a smaller pad will have a higher local pressure (psi) but lower area. a larger pad will have a lower local pressure, but larger area. it all works out to the same thing in the end.
cdlong
10-16-2007, 07:20 AM
It's a hydraulic system and all you're doing is changing the position of the item. You're not changing the ammount of fluid, pressure, driving force or mass. In fact you're just adding more mass for the smaller caliper to stop.
assuming z32 to z32 max
the hydraulic system is unchanged, but it doesn't need to be to change the braking torque. the braking torque depends on pad friction and clamping force from the caliper (force) and the distance of the center of the pad from the axis (lever arm).
caliper force depends on line pressure and piston area, both fixed with both z32 systems.
you're right, it is more mass to stop, and all else being equal, it will take longer to stop (but only very little, they're designed to stop a 3300 lb car, 5 more lbs won't do much). but big brakes usually go along with other mods, mostly more power and better tires, and you give up a little to gain a lot.
Koopa Troopa
10-16-2007, 07:30 AM
Interesting way of looking at it.
With both our points made it is clear that cost over the minimals gains = not worth it.
ROIDMONKEY
10-16-2007, 08:31 AM
you are such a cookiecutter dumbfuck you're not even worth it
U pussy, i can tell . u said all that cause u behind ur crapy pc. brake ur tiny ass and give the bones to my pitbulls , lol
ROIDMONKEY
10-16-2007, 08:35 AM
No but what I do understand is the same ammount of fluid is traveling to the same piston, using the same sized brake pad. Only thing changing is the location. You're prolly the same guy who told me I need Z32 conversion lines to run my 33 GTR calipers on my 180 too.
The Powered by Max rotor thing is a ricer mod. The Z32 calipers wern't designed for that rotor and that rotor isn't designed for that caliper so how is the caliper suppose to clamp down on the entire rotor? It can't it's just taking a nibble and not a bite.
That kit is so you can run giant rotors to look like you have a big brake kit. Might as well go buy Brembo caliper covers off Ebay while you're at it.
i understand what u said but the calipe does take the whole rotor deep down is not only taking a bite it does cover the whole thing . its going to be done today hopefully if not tomorrow , i will post pics once done . thanks
looks like anything that cost under 1000 dollars is ricer for some's. lets all wait untill is done and then we talk :) BTW its not Z32 calipers , im using R33 (i know it use the same pads)
ZOMG_S14
10-16-2007, 03:21 PM
i understand what u said but the calipe does take the whole rotor deep down is not only taking a bite it does cover the whole thing . its going to be done today hopefully if not tomorrow , i will post pics once done . thanks
looks like anything that cost under 1000 dollars is ricer for some's. lets all wait untill is done and then we talk :) BTW its not Z32 calipers , im using R33 (i know it use the same pads)
a lot of people say the max rotor is a ricer mod because its probably overkill for most people who are buying it. for a lot of poeple oem calipers and high performance pads and some new rotors and maybe even ss lines will probably be more than enough, and if not a z32 setup certainly will. if your car is at the limit of a z32 setup and your looking to upgrade your not going to buy a pbm rotor for your brake setup anyways. because you probably track your car and have enough money to buy something really nice.
so they appeal to people who just want big rotors for looks, or cause they cant afford something better, and most will say thats kind of ricey.
it kind of becomes form > function
oh and about brake torque, its the same reason why using a breaker bar works better than just a small socket wrench. its all about leverage the further away from the center of rotation you get the easier it is to get torque.
OptionZero
10-16-2007, 04:08 PM
the ricer part comes in because it has a 2pc look despite being 1pc
fromxtor
10-16-2007, 04:27 PM
^^ Word, trying too damn hard. Porsche, Ferarri etc can't be wrong about brembo. Wont see them ever swapping in a PBM rotor.
ROIDMONKEY
10-16-2007, 04:28 PM
the ricer part comes in because it has a 2pc look despite being 1pc
I agree on that part with u, and lets be boyfriends ok :)
Koopa Troopa
10-16-2007, 09:46 PM
a lot of people say the max rotor is a ricer mod because its probably overkill for most people who are buying it. for a lot of poeple oem calipers and high performance pads and some new rotors and maybe even ss lines will probably be more than enough, and if not a z32 setup certainly will. if your car is at the limit of a z32 setup and your looking to upgrade your not going to buy a pbm rotor for your brake setup anyways. because you probably track your car and have enough money to buy something really nice.
so they appeal to people who just want big rotors for looks, or cause they cant afford something better, and most will say thats kind of ricey.
it kind of becomes form > function
oh and about brake torque, its the same reason why using a breaker bar works better than just a small socket wrench. its all about leverage the further away from the center of rotation you get the easier it is to get torque.
My car has never seen a track and for close to the same price of that Max kit you can get Wilwoods...
ROIDMONKEY
10-16-2007, 10:21 PM
Max's rotor are only 370 shipped plus R33 calipers 150 that i paid. total 520 , willwood its 1000+
cdlong
10-17-2007, 02:00 AM
are you sure?
http://www.arizonazcar.com/240sxbrakes.html
ROIDMONKEY
10-17-2007, 06:35 AM
795 is the rear .
2JZGTE
10-17-2007, 07:21 AM
795 is the rear .
Ok, lotta arguing in this thread lol.
I have BOTH front and rear wilwood kits from www.arizonazcar.com
They are $795 for front pair and $795 for rear pair:)
They come with 2-piece rotors, calipers, pads, braided lines, and brackets. They work incredibly well and my car is full-time track pretty much.
You can get a 6piston front kit also but it's overkill for most anyone. I have more than enough braking with my 4piston F/R setup and I actually "track" my car.
2JZGTE
10-17-2007, 07:24 AM
Max's rotor are only 370 shipped plus R33 calipers 150 that i paid. total 520 , willwood its 1000+
www.arizonazcar.com/240sxbrakes.html
He lists the prices right on the page homie. Anyway, again...I do have the front and rear kits from zcar. You wouldn't believe how fast the car brakes. They are 2-piece rotors too, can't beat that for $795. Wilwood's replacement pads are cheap as well and I'm currently running the full race pad compounds.
Your price is up to $520. Add some braided lines and pads and you've pretty much got your zcar kit.
CylonFrakker
10-17-2007, 07:32 AM
dang i have to finish this this UCF20 brake adapter brackets. Their rotors are a lot cheaper the calipers are a 4 pot aluminum and can be had for 150 a piece. I gotta finish this bracket adapter.
ROIDMONKEY
10-17-2007, 11:21 AM
we ran into a problem with the caliper adapter , its to long and caliper its only grabbing maybe 50% deep in rotor . I called Powered bymax and some guy is gonna call me back , looks like i need another size adapter. . i called SPL and they dont. I Just noticed here in page 1 some guy is using the same setup and also not going deep enough. we r working on it.
Update: 17" wheels wont fit cause the adapter is to big making the caliper to high( need to be deep down more the rotor) , why PBM didnt correct that problem? they made the bracket wrong , need to be shorter. anyway i found a shop their gonna make me a new pair of bracket to bring the caliper down the whole rotor surface , that way i can fit my 17" wheels . brackets are friking 80-90 bucks each one
OptionZero
10-17-2007, 12:49 PM
lol megafail
try cosmoworks on ebay or something
Koopa Troopa
10-17-2007, 12:58 PM
we ran into a problem with the caliper adapter , its to long and caliper its only grabbing maybe 50% deep in rotor . I called Powered bymax and some guy is gonna call me back , looks like i need another size adapter. . i called SPL and they dont. I Just noticed here in page 1 some guy is using the same setup and also not going deep enough. we r working on it.
Update: 17" wheels wont fit cause the adapter is to big making the caliper to high( need to be deep down more the rotor) , why PBM didnt correct that problem? they made the bracket wrong , need to be shorter. anyway i found a shop their gonna make me a new pair of bracket to bring the caliper down the whole rotor surface , that way i can fit my 17" wheels . brackets are friking 80-90 bucks each one
Didn't I say somewhere back there the caliper wasn't grabbing enough of therotor :keke:
OptionZero
10-17-2007, 01:04 PM
lol great stuff for the illiterate
ROIDMONKEY
10-17-2007, 01:29 PM
:) i know. found a shop allready . 2 - 3 days to make then .its eather making new brackets wich is i think the right way instead of having the caliper going down only 50%. with the new bracket the caliper is coming down the whole way
ROIDMONKEY
10-17-2007, 01:30 PM
Didn't I say somewhere back there the caliper wasn't grabbing enough of therotor :keke:
yes u did , i hate u :) , but thats a major fail from poweredbymax we only need new brackets thats it
Koopa Troopa
10-17-2007, 01:39 PM
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/koopatroopa187/Sillbeer%20S14/CRW_0620.jpg
http://gtfactory.jp/cms/maxcat/Brake/large/After.jpg
See the difference in the caliper height?
ROIDMONKEY
10-17-2007, 02:18 PM
Yes i see it and we are working on it . making new braket. thats all it need new brakets that make the caliper go down deep rotor .
that wheel on the MAX add must be a 19"
1989rps13
10-17-2007, 02:43 PM
OPTION ZERO POSTED THIS...
daily driver doesn't need more than refreshed stock brakes
daily driver doesn't need an SR, either
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MY RESPONSE.... I DISAGREE WITH YOU WITH THE SR AND DAILY DRIVER THING
HAVING AN SR AND DAILY DRIVING IT PUTS A SMILE ON YOUR FACE AND IT MAKES DRIVING MORE FUN...
THATS ALL I HAD TO SAY!!
ROIDMONKEY
10-17-2007, 02:50 PM
LOL :bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:
OPTION ZERO POSTED THIS...
daily driver doesn't need more than refreshed stock brakes
daily driver doesn't need an SR, either
__________________
MY RESPONSE.... I DISAGREE WITH YOU WITH THE SR AND DAILY DRIVER THING
HAVING AN SR AND DAILY DRIVING IT PUTS A SMILE ON YOUR FACE AND IT MAKES DRIVING MORE FUN...
THATS ALL I HAD TO SAY!!
OptionZero
10-17-2007, 02:51 PM
wow, you dug through all that just to respond to me
shouldn't you be out like...revving on some integras or something?
xamraci
10-17-2007, 04:26 PM
You can get the wilwood 4piston kit for around 1k shipped.
Should included, pads, lines, calipers, rotors, and brackets.
2JZGTE
10-17-2007, 05:08 PM
You can get the wilwood 4piston kit for around 1k shipped.
Should included, pads, lines, calipers, rotors, and brackets.
Third time's the charm.
The Wilwood 4piston kits (front or rear) are $795 from www.arizonazcar.com
I have front and rear wilwood on my S13 and roadrace with them 10 times a year.
Ask for Dave if you call zcar, he owns the place and does a great job w/ these kits. Now they offer 2 versions of the 4piston caliper.
ROIDMONKEY
10-17-2007, 11:06 PM
Very nice , Can u please post pics of ur setup? front and rear?
Third time's the charm.
The Wilwood 4piston kits (front or rear) are $795 from www.arizonazcar.com (http://www.arizonazcar.com)
I have front and rear wilwood on my S13 and roadrace with them 10 times a year.
Ask for Dave if you call zcar, he owns the place and does a great job w/ these kits. Now they offer 2 versions of the 4piston caliper.
2JZGTE
10-18-2007, 07:45 AM
Very nice , Can u please post pics of ur setup? front and rear?
Front:
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3970/mg3261ji5.jpg
Rear:
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/922/mg3263tz0.jpg
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2901/s111qy6.jpg
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/1260/s16bv5.jpg
arizonazcar:
wilwood 4-pistons are $795 for front pair
wilwood 4-pistons are $795 for rear pair
total of $1,590 for a front and rear setup
How much are the rotors and pads though?
dongoesby
10-03-2008, 08:06 AM
R33 GTST brakes identical to R32 GTR
front and rear w/ rotors and pads: $525
check my sale thread :D
Om1kron
10-03-2008, 08:28 AM
damn that s13 is dead sex! I want the rear wilwood kit! Do you buy the willwood brake pad's for your calipers (thread jack question)
markyboi
10-03-2008, 10:30 AM
2jzgte: what bmc are you using?
rightcoastimports
10-03-2008, 11:39 AM
ksport 13" kit.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g138/RightCoastImports/s14/s14bbk2.jpg
silviaguy240
10-03-2008, 11:44 AM
arizonazcar:
wilwood 4-pistons are $795 for front pair
wilwood 4-pistons are $795 for rear pair
total of $1,590 for a front and rear setup
How much are the rotors and pads though?
comes with everything.
240SX Brakes (http://www.arizonazcar.com/240sxbrakes.html)
and this thread is a year old...
timtiminy
10-03-2008, 09:25 PM
for the guy that has the max rotors and r33 calipers, why you ran into the problem you did is because the r33 calipers are made for a 296mm rotor as opposed to the 280mm rotors for the 300zx calipers and since the brackets are made for 300zx calipers the r33 calipers are going to stick out 8mm more than the 300zx ones. thats your problem... you need new brackets.. oh and when you get the new brackets made they might have to rotate the calipers about 25* to get all the hardware to fit and have the calipers in the right place... you could have gone with the brackets i make for 300zx calipers with 13" cobra rotors, which would have been a ton cheaper considering cobra rotors are had for under $100 for both sides and the brackets i have are $50.
Ben G
10-03-2008, 09:35 PM
bam problem solved
Manji Parts : S13/ S14 Viper big brake system. (http://www.manjiparts.com/product.sc?categoryId=5&productId=7)
all you need to do is buy the calipers... give em a call i dont think they are on sale yet though idk
comes with everything.
240SX Brakes (http://www.arizonazcar.com/240sxbrakes.html)
and this thread is a year old...
I know it comes with everything from the start.. I'm asking when you do need to replace them, how much is that gonna cost?
bam problem solved
Manji Parts : S13/ S14 Viper big brake system. (http://www.manjiparts.com/product.sc?categoryId=5&productId=7)
all you need to do is buy the calipers... give em a call i dont think they are on sale yet though idk
those look fairly good if those can be had for $200 for the viper calipers + $399 for the kit = $599 total for a front setup
Ben G
10-03-2008, 10:06 PM
I know it comes with everything from the start.. I'm asking when you do need to replace them how much is that gonna cost?
those look fairly good if those can be had for $200 a pair of viper calipers + $399 for the kit = $599 total for a front setup
they also have some corvette zo6 brakes that i think they will be able to put on 240s soon for 1,100 somethin comes with everything i believe
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