Which coilover is the most comfortable?

[stillen]

Hi everyone, I just would like to know from all of your experiences with coilovers for an S14. I will be using my car mostly on the street. I don't want to get shocks and springs. I want to get coilovers and I want your opinions regarding comfort. I am considering the following BC-racing vs Kbee vs Apex ExV if anybody has any experience with those. If there are any other coilovers that you think are very comfortable then please let me know. Thanks I would really appreciate your help.

[DOOK]

coilovers are a performance mod, not something you get for ride comfort.

[iHeartTheTouge]

comfort and performance dont go together, you will have to sacrifice one or the other

[stillen]

I understand all of that but I want to know which are least stiffest? and any opinions regarding the BC racing or Kbee with ride stiffness?

[MrChow]

Search up tanabe they have some nice looking coils for DD.

[lflkajfj12123]

if the coilovers aren't as stiff then whats the point, go with coils and springs its just as good if you want a not so stiff ride and offers performance

plus its alot cheaper

otherwise man up and enjoy the ride with coils

[DOOK]

check for yourself on the websites you are browing for coilovers.... obviously a setup with 8/6 kg/mm or whatever will be softer than a 10/8 setup

[S14SwimShark105]

look for the one with the softest spring rate, none of the coilovers you mentioned are soft.

[Quigs]

I thought the reason for getting coilovers was for a stiff suspension??

If you want something for just looks (ride height adjustment) then just get some lowering springs/shocks. Coilovers, like everyone else so far has stated, are for performance and are built to be stiff. Good luck with whatever you decide to go with.

P.S. - Coilovers aren't as uncomfortable as you are probably thinking. After two or three days of normal driving, you will probably get used to it. Your passengers (if any) wont like it, but oh well, sucks for them right? You drive a sports car...it's not like you're running a limousine service. As long as you are comfortable with how your car performs, that's all that's important. Feeling the road is half the fun of driving our cars :)

[end rambling on, and on, and on...]

[Nikeboy355]

Tein Basic might be what you are looking for...

[PRADOgy]

If your not drifting or road racing.. i really dont see the need for coilovers, if you want a nice sporty setup with out the stiffness and can perform id rock some performance shocks and springs

[DP_Michelle G]

I :love: my BC's there not to stiff on the right settings but even when there set to full stiff I could daily them. Not to many people on here have them or if they do they have the older one's the VH'S which are the same as the megan/greddy and apexi coilovers.

+1 for BC RACING

[SimpleSexy180]

tein basics for you buddy.

[kdashy]

Tein Basic might be what you are looking for...

X2.

Or get lowering springs like everyone else is saying.

[TheSquidd]

I thought the reason for getting coilovers was for a stiff suspension??

LOL what is all this misinformation being spread here?

Are you the guys that buy your KSports and just turn the dampening knob to 32?

"It's stiff and hurts my livers! I'M A HANDLING GOD!"

No. You do know there's a balance to be had right? And in fact for grip a softer suspension can be key because your tires aren't bouncing and skipping everywhere because of your 10414kg Megan Racing Track springs and your 64 way adjustable Tiens are set to 64.

I'm not going to go into crazy detail cause I'm a noob in suspension land, but I'm sure someone that has half a brain here can chime in.

Smooth coilovers I have ridden in

s13 coupe (mine) - Silkroad / Section RM/A8 - Very nice, I daily it all the time, the shocks are getting a little worn now, but really very smooth when I got them. I run about 3 clicks in back and 4 up front (out of 8). Very little compression and body roll even at that setting, yet it absorbs bumps with ease. At the track it's awesome. I could use some front sway bars but I have no complaints about the shocks themselves.

S14 - K*Bee - Rode in my friends, slammed and dialed pretty soft, very smooth. Not a lot of movement either. Dampened the bumps very well.

Worst I've ridden in:

Tein HE s14 - Do not buy these.
Megan Racing S14 - Do not buy these.

[ayuaddict]

my KTS are pretty damn comfortable at half-stiff.

oh the spring rates are 8kg/6kg btw.

im pretty sure no coilover for the S chassis comes with spring rates lower than 8kg/6kg but if you are dead set on making your car ride like...a stock 240 but lower and must use coilovers...get some springs made in like 1kg?

[MavericStephenc]

we already have a thread for this topic

[MrChow]

Are you the guys that buy your KSports and just turn the dampening knob to 32?

"It's stiff and hurts my livers! I'M A HANDLING GOD!"

No. You do know there's a balance to be had right? And in fact for grip a softer suspension can be key because your tires aren't bouncing and skipping everywhere because of your 10414kg Megan Racing Track springs and your 64 way adjustable Tiens are set to 64.

I'm not going to go into crazy detail cause I'm a noob in suspension land, but I'm sure someone that has half a brain here can chime in.

LOL Love they first quote I'm soo using that!

Anyways what he said. I'm getting coil and I'm going to be DD a lot more then I track/racing. The reason why? I'm getting coil is for the adjustability.

im pretty sure no coilover for the S chassis comes with spring rates lower than 8kg/6kg but if you are dead set on making your car ride like...a stock 240 but lower and must use coilovers...get some springs made in like 1kg?

SUSTEC PRO S-0C (http://www.tanabe-usa.com/coilovers/s-oc.asp) are 6k/4k and they look really nice like I said before.

In the tech sector of these forums there a FAQ for suspension. Go read it.

[Wiisass]

Whoever thinks ride comfort and handling don't go together is an idiot. I've said stuff about this a lot and for some reason people still don't understand it. It's all about the damper. And too stiff a damper, no matter how cool you think the car feels, is bad for handling. As far as ride comfort, if these forces are getting transmitted into the car and you're feeling them, think about what the tire must be going through. It's not good for grip.

[DOOK]

notice in my previous posts I never said a quality coilover can't have a good street feel, but it was a performance mod, not something you get for ride comfort. No matter what coilover, I've never been in a car that was as comfortable on coils as it was on stock suspension, but I've been in some that were close. You get what you pay for in coilovers, as was stated before, if you pay for Ksport or Megan Racing, that is exactly what you're gonna get. If you pay for moton dampers, you get moton dampers.

[Aoshi112]

KW V3 have a softer spring rate, forget how much they are off hand.

[drifting_changed_mylife]

Tein Basic might be what you are looking for...

yeah my buddy picked some of them up last weeked and the ride is barable. its not TO stiff. plus it dropped his s14 about 2 inces

[trsilvias13]

Get stance or kts and purchase the optional 3k springs set .

Too rough? get 60 profile tires.

If you get 10k spring with stretch tires like 215 on a 10in wheel, it will be stiff, but if you get 10k spring and get 60+ profiles tires, it will be two different ride.

KTS works for me.

[ZenkitonS14]

K-Bees are like a cloud in between your car and wheels. Well, not really, but theyre pretty damn NICE. I think that in the long run, you wont be happy with the basics. They have no body adjustment, correct? The only way to lower them is by spring with preload or droop right?

[EDacIouSX]

Get stance or kts and purchase the optional 3k springs set .

Too rough? get 60 profile tires.

If you get 10k spring with stretch tires like 215 on a 10in wheel, it will be stiff, but if you get 10k spring and get 60+ profiles tires, it will be two different ride.

KTS works for me.

you forget 275 with a 60 profile on a 10 inch wheel will be comfortable.. lol, 60 profile in 275.... SUPA COMFY TALL N WIDE TIRESSSSS!!! heh

(width of a tire also helps with comfort, smaller tires tend to fall into those street pot holes easier)

[TheSquidd]

K-Bees are like a cloud in between your car and wheels. Well, not really, but theyre pretty damn NICE. I think that in the long run, you wont be happy with the basics. They have no body adjustment, correct? The only way to lower them is by spring with preload or droop right?

Remember also though you have huge boat tires that are absorbing a lot of the vibration from the road.

[articdragon192]

Want comfort? Easy... Tein Flexes. 6/4 rates and the valving is spot on for those rates. Very very smooth ride. I had them on my S13 and had people fall asleep in my car. The way they ride is very different from other more aggressive coilovers, and it's very apparent when seen from outside.

[614duece40]

get the apex's, can't go wrong with a name brand. and as far as comfort, coilovers are not comfortable, unless you have a vip car.

[AceInHole]

get the apex's, can't go wrong with a name brand.

Unless that name is from Japan.... I still haven't seen a JDM performance damper I'd upgrade to.

As for comfort, I'm pretty happy with my mild 11kg springs on Konis. It still pales in comparison to heavier sprung Ohlins.

[aznpoopy]

Want comfort? Easy... Tein Flexes. 6/4 rates and the valving is spot on for those rates. Very very smooth ride. I had them on my S13 and had people fall asleep in my car. The way they ride is very different from other more aggressive coilovers, and it's very apparent when seen from outside.

+1

flex's have had their valving butt and shock dyno proven

[xplicit240]

well i have the greddy type s coil overs. i daily my car. perfect for me. it can ride soft and you can track it. one of my other friends uses it on his s13 also.

[DP_Michelle G]

^^There the same as the megans made in the same factory in china just like the apexi coils.

[DOOK]

Unless that name is from Japan.... I still haven't seen a JDM performance damper I'd upgrade to.

As for comfort, I'm pretty happy with my mild 11kg springs on Konis. It still pales in comparison to heavier sprung Ohlins.

most of the super suspension system origins lie in german engineering.... can't touch em in america and neither can the japanese. I'd love to have my suspension changed out.

[!Zar!]

Just weld the shock. Your car will be stuff and you'll be the coolest kid on the block.

[93SECoupe]

I suggest you get KW Variant 3 coilovers if you have the budget and you want quality German engineering. They come with progressive springs which are 6k/4k. I have them on my car and the ride is better than stock.

[drift freaq]

Unless that name is from Japan.... I still haven't seen a JDM performance damper I'd upgrade to.

As for comfort, I'm pretty happy with my mild 11kg springs on Konis. It still pales in comparison to heavier sprung Ohlins.

:D Now I get to try out the Ohlins for S13 that I picked up. The fronts are sick 52mm inverted adjustable monotube. These actually have spring perches with Apex springs on them but I am thinking about collaring them and making them height adjustable.

[DOOK]

:D Now I get to try out the Ohlins for S13 that I picked up. The fronts are sick 52mm inverted adjustable monotube. These actually have spring perches with Apex springs on them but I am thinking about collaring them and making them height adjustable.

I envy you :D

[!Zar!]

I'm getting ready to get a set of Ohlins for my suby.

Another coilover that feels good once setup properly is Tein Super Drifts.

[240sxdreaming]

shit, thats a funny one. comferatable and COILOVERS in the same sentence. hahah. but i guess you can have both if you want. i like them supper stiff so the girls TITIES bounce :hsdance: :naughty: when shes in your ride. GET SOME STIFF ONES YO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[articdragon192]

shit, thats a funny one. comferatable and COILOVERS in the same sentence. hahah. but i guess you can have both if you want. i like them supper stiff so the girls TITIES bounce :hsdance: :naughty: when shes in your ride. GET SOME STIFF ONES YO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's possible. Like I said, Tein Flexes.

[!Zar!]

Like I said, coilovers set to full stiff are about as helpful as a welded stock shock.

[az_240]

tein flexes are the way to go if you want a comfortable coilover.

thats all anyone needs to know.

[r6_240sx]

Want comfort? Easy... Tein Flexes. 6/4 rates and the valving is spot on for those rates. Very very smooth ride. I had them on my S13 and had people fall asleep in my car. The way they ride is very different from other more aggressive coilovers, and it's very apparent when seen from outside.True story, I've fallen asleep in car riding on Tein Flexes. Not Edgar's tho. :keke:

[hung12848]

Friend of mine had about 10 240sx's in his warehouse and the one i had ride on for the best comfort are the TEIN FLEX doesnt really feel like riding on the Coilover!!! also HKS hyper 2 are pretty good as well will cost alot but TOP brand doesnt make difference. if your budget are over 1500 then HKS, any below i will pick Stance gs pro+ will im using Stance rite now little bit stiff but better performace than Tein in Touge, DD, and Drift

[usdm180sx]

Want comfort? Easy... Tein Flexes. 6/4 rates and the valving is spot on for those rates. Very very smooth ride. I had them on my S13 and had people fall asleep in my car. The way they ride is very different from other more aggressive coilovers, and it's very apparent when seen from outside.

+1. I NEVER considered buying TEIN coilovers but I got Flexes for my s13 because I got them for cheap and I daily drive my car. They are very comfortable, fully adjustabe and TEIN USA is local if you are in So Cal.

[KA24DESOneThree]

Coilovers were not designed to make for a stiff ride, nor were they designed to be able to slam the car as low as possible so you look baller. They were designed to allow adjustable ride height for different tracks and to allow cornerweighting for optimal balance.

As for grip guys wanting soft springs, exactly the opposite is true. We need stiff springs to keep us off our tires. What we want, though, has already been said and that is a proper damper with correct valving. A good damper will make an 11kg spring rate feel heavenly with no harshness.

My BMW is running on H&R Race springs and nearly blown Bilstein Sports and the ride quality is worse than my S13 with KTS coilovers and spherical bearings everywhere.

[articdragon192]

tein flexes are the way to go if you want a comfortable coilover.

thats all anyone needs to know.

True story, I've fallen asleep in car riding on Tein Flexes. Not Edgar's tho. :keke:

You can sleep in my Z if you want... anytime, lol. It's almost as comfy.

+1. I NEVER considered buying TEIN coilovers but I got Flexes for my s13 because I got them for cheap and I daily drive my car. They are very comfortable, fully adjustabe and TEIN USA is local if you are in So Cal.

How many more vouches do you need? Pricey but you pay for what you get. Trust me and Norm. We both have/had these coils.

[m91silvia]

I have PBM.. i can tell you not to get those if you want a 'comfortable' coilover.

I personally thought megans were pretty decently comfortable on the softest setting. haven't driven/rode on any more expensive coils yet.

[a_ahmed]

I wonder where one could buy ohlins... and has anyone had a setup like that done for an S13?...

I am storing my car for the winter.. but next spring/summer i will have to get some... my current crap damper setup is garbage...

I am sort of aware of what koni offers... i was told bilstein is even a better bet (bilstein hd vs koni 8611 ? thoughts? not sure what else they have) but the all out would be ohlins?

Thoughts? Aceinhole what is your friend running? I am thinking 8611... still... but whats out there thats even better :D

[drift freaq]

I wonder where one could buy ohlins... and has anyone had a setup like that done for an S13?...

I am storing my car for the winter.. but next spring/summer i will have to get some... my current crap damper setup is garbage...

I am sort of aware of what koni offers... i was told bilstein is even a better bet (bilstein hd vs koni 8611 ? thoughts? not sure what else they have) but the all out would be ohlins?

Thoughts? Aceinhole what is your friend running? I am thinking 8611... still... but whats out there thats even better :D

I got my Ohlins from a engine importer, of course they were used. Basically I can tell you a lot of people passed them up, because they had no idea what they were. Also because they were not collared already people probably passed them up in favor of adjustable height setups. Works for me :D hehehehe

[aznpoopy]

I wonder where one could buy ohlins... and has anyone had a setup like that done for an S13?...

I am storing my car for the winter.. but next spring/summer i will have to get some... my current crap damper setup is garbage...

I am sort of aware of what koni offers... i was told bilstein is even a better bet (bilstein hd vs koni 8611 ? thoughts? not sure what else they have) but the all out would be ohlins?

Thoughts? Aceinhole what is your friend running? I am thinking 8611... still... but whats out there thats even better :D

look oh ohlin's website. they have a distributor listed for canada in ontario iirc.

[DJ_Sunrise]

stay away from tein he's.

[Dunkee]

Zeals are the most comfy I've been in..

[mr_240sx]

I wonder where one could buy ohlins... and has anyone had a setup like that done for an S13?...

I am storing my car for the winter.. but next spring/summer i will have to get some... my current crap damper setup is garbage...

I am sort of aware of what koni offers... i was told bilstein is even a better bet (bilstein hd vs koni 8611 ? thoughts? not sure what else they have) but the all out would be ohlins?

Thoughts? Aceinhole what is your friend running? I am thinking 8611... still... but whats out there thats even better :D


pm ghazi on 613driftwerks.com as he purchased his set of ohlins brand new last winter and hes from kanata

[AceInHole]

For Ohlins, there's no modern app available for the S-chassis. The closest thing seems to be the STi/ Evo setups, but I haven't had a chance to measure the lengths and such to compare. Their older stuff can be found used on occasion, but it seems it's mostly non-adjustable stuff and you can't be 100% sure what they're valved for.

The hot stuff would be Ohlins TTX:
http://khmotorsport.se/images/ohlin/bmf5g00.jpg

[m91silvia]

Ohlins, you'd need to either get those GC or just run springs, right?

[Koopa Troopa]

The Cusco Zero2's on my 180 were really nice, the Cusco Zero 1's on my friend's EG6 are even better and I love everything Gab has put out.

[Wiisass]

PJ, the ohlins japan website says something about an S-chassis application. But there isn't much info and the heading for the section is a picture so it won't translate the words on it. So it seems something is available, but who knows on the adjustability and valving. But that's all I know on it.

But whoever said 52mm piston, I find that a little hard to believe. What part of the damper are they measuring to get 52mm? I doubt it's the piston itself? If it is, then that thing is going to be huge. With a 52mm piston and at minimum 3mm walls on the shock body, sleeve bearings and strut housing, you're looking at a diameter of at least 70mm overall, so when you throw in spring seat design and all the threads and all that needs to be done, you're running at least 3" ID springs on there, which would call for some big springs and that would cut down a lot on wheel clearance.

The comfort thing still comes down to the valving. You look at AceinHole's car with 11kg/mm springs on it and it's not harsh. And so far the only japanese offering that can come close is the Flex's with much softer springs. It just shows that it's not the spring rate that will contribute to the harshness, it's the valving. And proper valving will also get rid of a lot of the harshness because it's bad for grip.

But I wonder how far the Evo/sti stuff is. Because they have some cool offerings out there for them. But that would be for another thread.

Who said flex's were dyno proven? Where is this dyno plot?

As far as the original poster, I'd bet that all the options he listed were made in the same place with roughly the same valving. So pick the cheapest. But you're probably better off with good shocks and springs, but we all know that's not going to happen.

And whoever brought up Bilstein versus Koni, hopefully we'll be finding out soon enough. Once I get the Bilstein setup valved properly, Aceinhole and I are talking about having a little shootout to see how they compare. Maybe through in some of the hyped JDM crap as well and see what happens.

[a_ahmed]

man keep me up to date.

Oh and i emailed ohlin just fyi, lets see if they respond and with what...

I want to copy aceinhole's setup except for an s13 lol... otherwise if better, a bilstein setup and well if something even better than ohlins :P hehe, but i am sold on aceinhole's setup its bloody marvelous... insanely awesome car :D


I don't want to be lazy and get stance gr+pro... I rather spend some more and have something prime :)

Sniff sniff :'( car goes in garage officially this/next week :(

[atom]

I was SOOOO close to getting a set used off yahoo jp last year. If you get the shocks fron Ohlins Japan, Ohlins USA can probably rebuild them from what they told me. They won't do anything about trying to get you a set though. I don't know too much about the JDM Ohlins except that they are 46mm piston and they recommend 8k/6k for the springs.

[D1GP]

Who said flex's were dyno proven? Where is this dyno plot?


http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=144468&highlight=stance+shock+dyno

http://www.y8spec.com/suspension/shockdyno/Tein%20Flex%20Rear%20full%20soft_FvD.GIF
For a Miata I believe.

[Wiisass]

But if that's for a Miata, then it really tells you nothing. I mean the only way you can get even a useful comparison out of it is to know the miata spring rates and suspension geometry so you can get an idea of what damping ratios they're shooting for. And even then, it's a best guess. I mean the curve doesn't look too bad in terms of cavitation or hysteresis, but they look a little progressive especially in rebound and too linear in compression. But that's just what I can take from a force-displacement plot for a totally different car.

Tim

[D1GP]

But if that's for a Miata, then it really tells you nothing. I mean the only way you can get even a useful comparison out of it is to know the miata spring rates and suspension geometry so you can get an idea of what damping ratios they're shooting for. And even then, it's a best guess. I mean the curve doesn't look too bad in terms of cavitation or hysteresis, but they look a little progressive especially in rebound and too linear in compression. But that's just what I can take from a force-displacement plot for a totally different car.

Tim

have you looked at the first link? that one was specifically for an s13. someone overlayed the tein flex over the stance graph.

[Wiisass]

Well then I wonder where the data came from for the overlay plot. If that's the best there is for the flexes then they look like crap. The first 3 lines of the stance stuff were fine for an 8kg/mm spring, but for a 6kg/mm they would need to be a little softer. But they're putting out more rebound force. And just the way the curve looks on there, it looks bad. the lines shouldn't look like that.

[GTRS14]

hks hypermax rs....yup they do the job really well.....i have them wouldnt get anything different........

[spg240sx]

I have MR street coilovers for my S14, they are pretty stiff

[a_ahmed]

The only stuff i found on ohlin ttx is that its for bikes heh but thats just google to me :( What do i know lol...

[Wiisass]

http://www.ohlins.com/Automotive/Products/TouringGT/tabid/95/Default.aspx

I wouldn't waste too much time looking into it. Unless you're ready to drop a lot of money (+$10k probably) on shocks, it's not going to happen. And who really wants to run a throughrod strut?

[SimpleS14]

I heard A'Pexi WS coilovers are fairly comfortable with a 6/4 spring rate...however I'm not sure if they are still in production. :/ I have KTS and they are only unbearable when the street your driving on is horrid (such as D.C._...but that's a given.


we already have a thread for this topic

Then post a link.....

[AceInHole]

http://www.ohlins.com/Automotive/Products/TouringGT/tabid/95/Default.aspx

I wouldn't waste too much time looking into it. Unless you're ready to drop a lot of money (+$10k probably) on shocks, it's not going to happen. And who really wants to run a throughrod strut?

I believe the BMW set is $15k, and I'd run a throughrod strut if it meant I had Ohlins :) They're still way overkill, though. I'd probably stop at Moton 3-ways.

[DP_Michelle G]

OP

which ones did you get?

[Wiisass]

I believe the BMW set is $15k, and I'd run a throughrod strut if it meant I had Ohlins :) They're still way overkill, though. I'd probably stop at Moton 3-ways.

Yeah, it would be cool, but totally overkill and probably a pain to package. But I would be happy with something like either of these.

http://www.penskeshocks.co.uk/pics/macpherson2.jpg

http://www.penskeshocks.co.uk/pics/macpherson.jpg
This one uses roller bearings instead of a bushing between the strut housing and the shock body. I think that alone drives up the price because I've never been able to find any bearing that would meet those specs without getting something custom made.

But Motons would still be nice, I really want to see the plots for them and how they compare.

But enough about us talking about all the cool options that are a little too expensive and maybe 3 people on here will truly appreciate.

Back to what color coilovers should I get?

[AceInHole]

But enough about us talking about all the cool options that are a little too expensive and maybe 3 people on here will truly appreciate.

Back to what color coilovers should I get?

Yellow. :-/

End of story.

[articdragon192]

Didn't need a dyno graph to see that my coilovers were comfy and not stiff at all. No girl complained about the ride. That was all I needed to know my coilovers were just fine for comfort status.

[pbcstylez]

I heard A'Pexi WS coilovers are fairly comfortable with a 6/4 spring rate...however I'm not sure if they are still in production. :/ I have KTS and they are only unbearable when the street your driving on is horrid (such as D.C._...but that's a given.




Then post a link.....

I can confirm the WS coilovers are the most comfortable coils ive driven on DD, I can for a fact tell you not to buy D2s/ksports.

I am Stances, are they're not bad at all for DD

[FaLKoN240]

I got my KBee coils, I drove them around on full soft for about 300 miles. I loved it. It felt REALLY NICE. Not bouncy from underdampening (unlike my KTS which made the car look and feel bouncy on full soft).

The car felt connected to the road, but didn't give TOO much unwanted feedback. All in all the KBees feel very nice.

I'm riding on medium stiff all around now, and the car still feels good, but a little more sporty.

I'm gonna try full stiff for about 2 days after I get my alignment. After that it's back to full soft for driving to school and work.

[2iv0 sx]

I'm in love with my KBees' already

Started out at mid stiff (7 clicks all around) and I really like the ride for my daily driving. Freeway wasn't bad either for where the settings were at.

I'm going to try a lower setting soon and I can only expect a better ride!

Quality on these things looks amazing..

[240on430]

I'm currently rolling on GR+ pros on the softest setting with 40 series tires all around and I don't find the ride harsh.

If you want a comfortable ride with coilovers, don't get solid pillowball mounts like the Sustec Pro S-0C Type IIs or Stance GR sports.

[ryguy]

My Stance GR Basics arent very harsh when set all the way to soft. My friends don't even complain.

[MrChow]

I got my KBee coils, I drove them around on full soft for about 300 miles. I loved it. It felt REALLY NICE. Not bouncy from underdampening (unlike my KTS which made the car look and feel bouncy on full soft).

The car felt connected to the road, but didn't give TOO much unwanted feedback. All in all the KBees feel very nice.

I'm riding on medium stiff all around now, and the car still feels good, but a little more sporty.

I'm gonna try full stiff for about 2 days after I get my alignment. After that it's back to full soft for driving to school and work.

oo now I wanna try out BKee. Hey you should send that aspec for his reviews he needs.

[yudalicious]

As for grip guys wanting soft springs, exactly the opposite is true. We need stiff springs to keep us off our tires.
Not too harsh though. I cringe everytime I see a fellow 240 owner with XXX brand Race model coilovers and all seasons.

[a_ahmed]

You know, Ohlins Montreal rep didn't get back to me with Ohlins' setup for an s13 (or s14). I don't think they have anything for us :(

So its gotta be custom more than likely :-/ Not sure what exactly.

Is there a moton setup for s13 or s14?

If I'm spending money though I would guess that 5k is the upperlimit on a coilover/damper setup...

I just got my SPL parts that I ordered, next project is subframe restoration and alum bushings.. then coilover/damper setup.. but car is currently parked for six months (winter till spring) hehe...

[illvialuver]

from what I have been in the kei office or dg5 would be my top choice along with the hks and the tein he.

[drift freaq]

You know, Ohlins Montreal rep didn't get back to me with Ohlins' setup for an s13 (or s14). I don't think they have anything for us :(

So its gotta be custom more than likely :-/ Not sure what exactly.

Is there a moton setup for s13 or s14?

If I'm spending money though I would guess that 5k is the upperlimit on a coilover/damper setup...

I just got my SPL parts that I ordered, next project is subframe restoration and alum bushings.. then coilover/damper setup.. but car is currently parked for six months (winter till spring) hehe...

Its possible Ohlins has discontinued their S13 and S14 lines. Our cars are a good 13-17 years old. Japan was the main marketplace for Ohlins for S13. Even there they are coming up on at least 9-10 years old. Yes lots of S13's still used in Japan but Ohlins is very expensive even in Japan. S14's were not as popular as the S13 in Japan.

[wannabe_drifter]

AceInHole : What Konis do you have ?? Would you recomment them for DD and track weekends ??

[AceInHole]

I'm running a 2-way adjustable 8611-1257 in a custom housing. I'd definitely recommend them, as they're easily replaceable once you obtain housings.
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n247/AceInHole/PirateS14/suspensions/DSC_6276.jpg

The only other real damper options are Bilsteins, which have to be imported at the moment, or Koni Yellows. Bilsteins are non-adjustable, but can be revalved cheaply and easily by a lot of places. The Koni yellows cost a bit more to be revalved, but off the shelf they'll handle springrates that most coilovers run anyways.

[vw_nissan]

I'm running a 2-way adjustable 8611-1257 in a custom housing. I'd definitely recommend them, as they're easily replaceable once you obtain housings.
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n247/AceInHole/PirateS14/suspensions/DSC_6276.jpg

The only other real damper options are Bilsteins, which have to be imported at the moment, or Koni Yellows. Bilsteins are non-adjustable, but can be revalved cheaply and easily by a lot of places. The Koni yellows cost a bit more to be revalved, but off the shelf they'll handle springrates that most coilovers run anyways.


Just wondering where you can get custom housing? I am thinking about getting 2871, but need to know who will do the brackets and suck for a s13.

[vvtisupra]

Silk Road RMA8's They really do feel like you are riding on a silk road bahahah no but really that or tein flex

[AceInHole]

Just wondering where you can get custom housing? I am thinking about getting 2871, but need to know who will do the brackets and suck for a s13.

2817's would be awesome, although I honestly believe that the 8611's are the better deal in terms of price per dollar. My housings were made by veilside180sx, who can be contacted through Freshalloy.com, NissanRoadRacing.com, or KA-T.org.