View Full Version : Subaru Impreza STI revealed ( 56K warning )
Unholy S14
09-13-2007, 09:50 PM
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/09/2008imprezasti-(1).jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/09/2008imprezasti-(2).jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/09/2008imprezasti-(3).jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/09/2008imprezasti-(4).jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/09/2008imprezasti-(5).jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/09/2008imprezasti-(6).jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/09/2008imprezasti.jpg
MURPHY
09-13-2007, 09:58 PM
wow
i actually like it
rear tails could be like red or something, would make it look alot better
qwikspool
09-13-2007, 10:00 PM
wow that look nice.
fromxtor
09-13-2007, 10:04 PM
I would buy it. :bigok:
Matej
09-13-2007, 10:07 PM
The front sticks out so far, people are going to curb this car all the time, haha.
Baka Sama
09-13-2007, 10:27 PM
Looks like a bunch of red X's to me. Eh, I wouldnt buy it.
articdragon192
09-13-2007, 10:29 PM
It needs 2 doors chopped off. I don't like it.
TheWolf
09-13-2007, 10:29 PM
looks like a euro "focus estate".
http://www.whatcar.com/Car/Ford/Focus/1.6TDCiLX5drEstate/181144102814.jpg
WilloW
09-13-2007, 10:31 PM
I wouldn't mind driving that at all, may be without those tail lights.
blackrms13
09-13-2007, 10:31 PM
wow
i actually like it
rear tails could be like red or something, would make it look alot better
agree, tint them black or red or part of it red
it would look much nicer
and would they be going back the 2.0L engine or are they gonna use 2.5L for US again
WERDdabuilder
09-13-2007, 10:58 PM
daddy likes.
articdragon192
09-13-2007, 11:02 PM
Prob 2.5 for us "Americans" who love torque, lol.
blownmotor
09-13-2007, 11:08 PM
At least the hood scoop ismore stream line
xblack240x
09-13-2007, 11:20 PM
I agree with blown motor that the hood scoop is more streamline... But I don't really like the way it looks... But to each their own...
Vision Garage
09-13-2007, 11:24 PM
yea i dont like it either. Rather rock an older model STI.
ZenkitonS14
09-13-2007, 11:31 PM
This thing would look DOPE if it was SLAMMED
articdragon192
09-13-2007, 11:51 PM
GC8 = best Subie ever, looks wise at least
Kn1ves
09-13-2007, 11:55 PM
thats a rendering by best car, not the actual STI
articdragon192
09-14-2007, 12:15 AM
Crap, so the actual car can look worse.
m0rex
09-14-2007, 12:24 AM
Craptacular. Looks worse than the new evo and thats is really hard to beat.
OptionZero
09-14-2007, 12:49 AM
4 dr version of BMW's previous gen M Coupe
Message to Subaru:
I would say your design team should be shot, but that would be an insult to the bullets and the folks that would have to clean up the bodies.
Feed them to sharks and let's get the cycle of death/life going.
blackrms13
09-14-2007, 01:14 AM
GC8 = best Subie ever, looks wise at least
WERD!
the STi Type RA Coupe and the 22b....damn...:yum:
Ricks15
09-14-2007, 01:17 AM
That shit looks more like a soccer mom's SUV than a sports car:duh:
ManoNegra
09-14-2007, 08:50 AM
I kinda like it aside from the tail lights.
Taniguchi_Is_#1
09-14-2007, 08:54 AM
needs more cowbell. and who designed the front bumper? 1995 kei office is gonna file a law suit.
IIIXziuR
09-14-2007, 08:56 AM
Hmm the STi model rendering actually dosen't look so bad. I'm still not wild about it but the car dosen't look too bad. Very European "hot-hatch" looking I must say. Hmmmm let's see what unfolds
exitspeed
09-14-2007, 08:59 AM
Not crazy about it. And accordingly to Autblog as of yesterday they contact Subie about there images and they are nothing more then renderings.
Official images have not been released.
B18C5MK1
09-14-2007, 10:03 AM
i LOVE it.
:bowdown: :bigok:
2ilvia
09-14-2007, 10:18 AM
it looks just like a mazda, and ford owns them so -> FAIL
exitspeed
09-14-2007, 10:24 AM
Here's another rendering by them. They say that "at least one of the modelling mules at Subaru's Mitaka design studios appeared to have additional "scooplets" bracketing the tradional STI gaping hole.". Taken from Autoblog.
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/09/triplescoop.jpg
articdragon192
09-14-2007, 03:54 PM
Looks too much like a Focus.
iwishiwas-all*
09-14-2007, 04:13 PM
stunning.... ..........
A Spec Products
09-14-2007, 04:17 PM
I wouldnt rock one
But its not half bad
Looks very WRC'ish inspired
Kinda like a Peugeot 206? I think
SiI40sx
09-14-2007, 04:24 PM
It does look wrc inspired but GOD those taillights, jesus christ. It looks like a fuckin 6 year old drew those taillights.
codyace
09-14-2007, 04:29 PM
I think it looks great...in fact most 'rally inspired' hatches look great. Agressive, and different!
However GC8> for me as well...
ONYX S-13
09-14-2007, 08:02 PM
This thread should come with a barf bag !
Antihero983
09-14-2007, 08:27 PM
im a tech at a subie dealer, and already im sick of seeing these...blobs.
even on the Sti they took almost every awesome bodyline out of it and replaced them with sloppy lines.
it has the front end of a 2003 camry and the tailights of a acura MDX/RDX...
and the sedans have a quarter window that looks like it was stolen off a malibu Maxx.
i doubt the sti is gonna be that great. its gonna be a fast mazda3 lookalike with badging and a little bit more balls. woopdedoo.
subie finally got the tribeca somewhat right, so it figures they had to fuck up another car in the lineup.
/rant.
ONYX S-13
09-14-2007, 08:54 PM
Yes.. I saw the new Suby SUV and it's a definite improvememt... As long as they don't mess up the legacy I'm happy :D.. I want one of those.
B18C5MK1
09-14-2007, 09:11 PM
yall are trippin. shits ill son.
looks better than this garbage:
http://blogs.cars.com/photos/uncategorized/2008mitsubishilancer.jpg
yall are trippin. shits ill son.
looks better than this garbage:
http://blogs.cars.com/photos/uncategorized/2008mitsubishilancer.jpg
pfft, they both are hideous but at least mitsubishi didn't forget about sharp lines. i dont get how suby can go from several generations of a boxy, sharp, and mean ass looking cars, into that identity crisis of a car.
Antihero983
09-14-2007, 09:20 PM
fuck that.
the new evo is better looking, more advanced, and an improvement of the previous gen, unlike this new impreza/wrx/sti bullshit on wheels.
the WRX is a joke.
a couple magazines pointed out that the new wrx/imprezas are 50lbs lighter.....which is negated when anyone other than nicole richie gets in the fucking thing.
evne mechanically, they're still the same old ball of wax. as much as i hate mitsu,at least they tried to improve, instead of putting of putting out some abortion of an attempt to fit in with toyota and honda.
turtl631
09-14-2007, 11:22 PM
Notice that the JDM one will have a twinscroll turbine, AVCS, 2.0L, while we still get the 2.5L singlescroll. Subbie never brings their best here, enginewise, at least in the technology department. Over there guys probably drool over 2.5L blocks we get in the states- the grass is always greener...
I do kinda like the body, but I like the Mazda3 hatch too, so that's probably why. Those lower front bumper grill openings look nasty, but the headlights and hood scoop look nice IMO.
Mitsu definitely wins in the cool technology department, but you can't beat the old GC8 imprezas for looks. Just saw a white 2 door the other day with a big FMIC, CE28s, STI brakes with 2 piece rotors, and all the JDM body parts- looked totally badass.
OptionZero
09-14-2007, 11:43 PM
thats not even the EVO
thats the regular lancer
if your gonna compare, at least to it fucking right:
http://www.autoblog.com/media/2006/04/EVO-X-front-3-4-pass-1600.JPG
flares, LED in the headlights, black grille, redder red makes a difference
boxy beats squished everyday of the week
BustedS13
09-15-2007, 12:03 AM
looks like a mazda 3 fucked a first gen tiburon.
soreballz
09-15-2007, 12:15 AM
With every new body style, the WRX gets worse and worse. :(
Vision Garage
09-15-2007, 12:50 AM
I think they are both hideous and that the design team should be shot or better yet put both sides on a battle field with hatchets. And I think that is a pretty finalized version of the subie. I saw it at a meeting they had for all the dealers who had to get up to date on the subie. Its pretty much the same crap with a shitty NEW DESIGN!
Antihero983
09-15-2007, 05:22 AM
thats not even the EVO
thats the regular lancer
if your gonna compare, at least to it fucking right:
flares, LED in the headlights, black grille, redder red makes a difference
boxy beats squished everyday of the week
speaking of get it right, if you're going to prove a point about the differences, show a production pic of the evo, not a concept one, because alot of that LED shit amy or maynot make it into production. at least thats what i've heard.
but i agree with the boxy beats squished opinion.
oh and the new impreza/wrx interiors are cheaper than a high school prostitute on prom night. super ghetto plastic all the way around, and theyre supposed to be all new, but for a shift knob on the five speeds they just put legacy shift knobs on now. :bs:
and they still have the same HP/Tq as last gen. WTF?
next car theyre gonna fuck up is the forester diesel. flat four diesel with an aluminum block and heads? oh thats fucking genius :faint:
exitspeed
09-15-2007, 08:03 AM
Both of you get it right. This is the production version right here:
Although the red one has some extra options it appears. the new Evo looks infinitely better then the nasty WRX/STi.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_440/car_photo_220315_5.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/07/33-prototype-x-action.jpg
codyace
09-15-2007, 09:15 AM
{in regard to the evo}
if your gonna compare, at least to it fucking right:
flares, LED in the headlights, black grille, redder red makes a difference
boxy beats squished everyday of the week
Whats funny is that is the same Concept that they had ad the 2006 Auto show. Excuse my point and shoot lameness...left my SLR at home, and it was even a press day!
http://www.e-rak.com/cody/albums/album226/P1010083.sized.jpg
http://www.e-rak.com/cody/albums/album226/P1010084.sized.jpg
http://www.e-rak.com/cody/albums/album226/P1010088.sized.jpg
http://www.e-rak.com/cody/albums/album226/P1010086.sized.jpg
B18C5MK1
09-15-2007, 09:27 AM
thats not even the EVO
thats the regular lancer
if your gonna compare, at least to it fucking right:
sorry. i'll compare w/ the non-sti then... is this better for comparison?
in this case... i'd rather take the bus than own either cars.
http://www.auto123.com/ArtImages/87358/2008-Subaru-Impreza-i001.jpg
Dirty Habit
09-15-2007, 09:29 AM
Holy fucking ugly!
Antihero983
09-15-2007, 10:15 AM
Both of you get it right. This is the production version right here:
Although the red one has some extra options it appears. the new Evo looks infinitely better then the nasty WRX/STi.
THANK YOU! i was actually looking for pics, but no need now! :bigok:
OptionZero
09-15-2007, 02:17 PM
yup
like i said
boxy beats squished up shoe
ONYX S-13
09-15-2007, 02:17 PM
I agree with most here.. I'd take the lancer (evo or not) over any level of the subaru (impreza/wrx/sti).. They just look so bad (WUSSY) compared to the older ones..
I mean even the STI looks like a "sporty" car at best. Not a four door AWD sports car... The Evo looks worse then the previous models as well but at least it still kinda looks aggressive.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/1995_WRX_STI_RA_GC8.jpg/250px-1995_WRX_STI_RA_GC8.jpg
http://www.emray.com/PicsCarSales/wrx%20sti%20front.jpg
http://www.4wdonline.com/Subaru/Impreza/PiCs37/1999.WRXSTi4.jpg
http://www.subaruimpreza.bajtnet.pl/teksty/impreza2/sti/przod01.jpg
http://images.automotive.com/reviews/images/04-impreza-hero-wrx.jpg
http://carsmedia.ign.com/cars/image/article/747/747765/subaru-wrx-sti-rb320-20061127061408593.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/09/triplescoop.jpg <--- WIPE THAT UGLY GRIN OFF YOUR FACE !! (TALKING TO THE CAR).. DON'T YOU KNOW YOU'VE BEEN RUINED !??
Antihero983
09-15-2007, 07:36 PM
LOL @ onyx....
and yeah, im secretly a fan of the bug eye 02-03 wrx wagons.....
but ill take a Z over either lol
GC8 imprezas are so pimp. WTH happened to Subaru?
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/8499/imprezabl3.jpg
KwKouki
09-15-2007, 09:51 PM
GC8 was the incredible. I would still build one with a newer STi motor. The newer platforms were just lame. I am still a fan of the bugeye though.
Farzam
09-17-2007, 03:52 PM
Not so bad at all.
Antihero983
09-17-2007, 04:36 PM
GC8 was the incredible. I would still build one with a newer STi motor. The newer platforms were just lame. I am still a fan of the bugeye though.
YES. +1 to you sir.
HWYKING
09-17-2007, 06:22 PM
yall are trippin. shits ill son.
looks better than this garbage:
http://blogs.cars.com/photos/uncategorized/2008mitsubishilancer.jpg
i agree. the new hatch suby is sick. new evo looks like a volvo. crapola.
OptionZero
09-17-2007, 07:01 PM
ugh
fail
thats the lancer, not the evo
ur momma is a volvo
WILDACEX187
09-17-2007, 10:05 PM
we got sum wrx's today at my job. only the hatch though. they're not that bad. it has a 2.5L. u guys have to realize that the new wrc rules require for the cars to be hatches now which is why subbie made 2 wrx versions with the sti being the hatch
articdragon192
09-18-2007, 12:20 AM
WTF? Why is being a hatch a regulation now? And a 2 door hatch should be available, lol.
OptionZero
09-18-2007, 02:00 AM
no one has the balls to make a 2dr hatch anymore
there should be a mazdaspeed 3 two-door hatch, ain't happening
closest thing is what...an S3 or M coupe?
Dutchmalmiss
09-18-2007, 11:01 AM
Ah it looks awesome. I've always been a fan of STi wagons. I was so angry they didn't bring em here with the sedan.
ManoNegra
09-18-2007, 11:43 AM
we got sum wrx's today at my job. only the hatch though. they're not that bad. it has a 2.5L. u guys have to realize that the new wrc rules require for the cars to be hatches now which is why subbie made 2 wrx versions with the sti being the hatch
Did you watch the last round of WRC in New Zealand? Subaru and Mitsu are still running sedans and doing terrible. Clearly hatches have proven dominant now for some time. Reason I think for the new STi being a hatch. Surprised Mitsu hasn't gone the same route.
LigouriRd
09-18-2007, 12:43 PM
Surprised Mitsu hasn't gone the same route.
They will be:
http://articles.motortoday.com/feature/Frankfurt2005/MitsubishiSportback-1.jpg
http://articles.motortoday.com/feature/Frankfurt2005/MitsubishiSportback-2.jpg
Looks kinda fugly, suv like, IMO.
OptionZero
09-18-2007, 12:48 PM
10000000x times better than the subieshoe
exitspeed
09-18-2007, 12:52 PM
I can't believe I'm going to say this, but...I have never seen that Evo Hatch.
I feel weird all of a sudden.
ManoNegra
09-18-2007, 02:46 PM
Interesting, prototype I'm assuming.
wootwoot
09-18-2007, 03:36 PM
Exitspeed fails at being king of the new cardom.
You have let me down!
ixfxi
09-18-2007, 03:55 PM
4 dr version of BMW's previous gen M Coupe
Message to Subaru:
I would say your design team should be shot, but that would be an insult to the bullets and the folks that would have to clean up the bodies.
Feed them to sharks and let's get the cycle of death/life going.
haha YEP. the front headlamps look pretty, but the back end and overall rear section of the car is fucking horrible.
i keep looking at the rear of the car expecting to see a "FORD" badge right in the middle. shit reminds me of something mazda should make.
subaru typically makes ugly cars, but this one isnt ugly enough to be full subaru. it looks like its mixed with modern-day mazda.
fucking shit, cant car companies make NICE cars anymore?
exitspeed
09-19-2007, 08:44 AM
^
No...
I hate the look of the rear of the 1 Series too. It totally kills the whole car. I would actually consider a 128 for a DD and weekend AutoX car if it didn't look like such ass.
Ghostdrifter
09-19-2007, 09:44 AM
Front looks cool,... but the back looks like shit
exitspeed
09-19-2007, 09:54 AM
Shots of the STI on the road. Major Fail.
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/09/19/spy-shots-impreza-sti-on-the-road/
bardabe
09-20-2007, 01:31 AM
GC8 > All.
msglngth
exitspeed
09-20-2007, 10:40 AM
Annnnnnd here it is. The first offical Teaser shot from Subey.
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/09/carscoop_impreza_stor-1.jpg
HWYKING
09-20-2007, 11:01 AM
ugh
fail
thats the lancer, not the evo
ur momma is a volvo
ur momma is a volvo? dude what are you 5?
evo x not living up to the 9 looks wise. also no more 4G63, and no manual? suby hatch looks 10x better than ten hands down. we'll see how they both perform.
Daniel.
09-20-2007, 11:09 AM
ur momma is a volvo? dude what are you 5?
evo x not living up to the 9 looks wise. also no more 4G63, and no manual? suby hatch looks 10x better than ten hands down. we'll see how they both perform.
no more 4g63 can be a good thing. no more manual is also a good thing...
the X looks waaay better than the pics of the suby hatch so far. we will see how things pan out when the production models are released.
in any case, im still keeping my IX.
HWYKING
09-20-2007, 11:29 AM
no more 4g63 can be a good thing. no more manual is also a good thing...
the X looks waaay better than the pics of the suby hatch so far. we will see how things pan out when the production models are released.
in any case, im still keeping my IX.
i agree, hopfully they continue to better the cars as the years come in. i wont be getting rid of my 06, but i might be picking up that 08 hatch. the gcs were sick espeically the 22b, and on the evo side the tm evo6 was killer.
exitspeed
09-20-2007, 01:47 PM
Annnnnd, here we go with an almost unmasked STi at The Ring.
I must say, other then the rear, it's really growing one me. The profile with the wide fenders looks very good.
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/09/0wrx.sti.ldfc.kgp.ed.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/09/0wrx.sti.ldpr.kgp.ed.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/09/0wrx.sti.ldrc.kgp.ed.jpg
Daniel.
09-20-2007, 02:19 PM
Looks like a Ford focus/mazda 3
Antihero983
09-20-2007, 03:57 PM
i finally drove one of the 2008 wrx sedans we have at the subie dealership i work at.....
......what a poor handling excuse of a car. i swear they ruined this car. the only nice thing....is the seats.
anyone want a writeup of my testdrive of the car?
i have no faith now that the STi will be any good.
exitspeed
09-20-2007, 04:01 PM
i finally drove one of the 2008 wrx sedans we have at the subie dealership i work at.....
......what a poor handling excuse of a car. i swear they ruined this car. the only nice thing....is the seats.
anyone want a writeup of my testdrive of the car?
i have no faith now that the STi will be any good.
Not if you already say it sucks.
s13poop
09-20-2007, 04:03 PM
i'm gonna rock one after i get rid of my suby
i love it regardless of what anyone says
the sti parked next to my coupe is all i need
everyone's talking shit but once prodrive, cusco and perrin get on the sti
here come the band wagoneers!
SimpleSexy180
09-20-2007, 04:21 PM
in the words of kanye west...
"i ask, cause im not sure
does anybody make real shit anymore?!"
Antihero983
09-20-2007, 05:07 PM
i'm gonna rock one after i get rid of my suby
i love it regardless of what anyone says
the sti parked next to my coupe is all i need
everyone's talking shit but once prodrive, cusco and perrin get on the sti
here come the band wagoneers!
keep your subie.
call it talking shit, but even at the technician meeting we had today to go over some of the new features (not all of them, the rest will be shown to me at subie school in either mid oct. or nov.) and some of the shit they put in this car is downright retarded! for example.....
an AC belt that your stretch to fit instead of using a tensioner? RETARDED.
they left the bolt holes for a tensioner in case their design blows up in their face....which it always does. :loco:
so its not so much talking shit on my part as it is....professional opinion of a shitty overhyped car. :keke:
and yeah, i hope to hell there is a solution to this car's shittyness found in modifying the shit out of it.
Taniguchi_Is_#1
09-20-2007, 06:13 PM
i'm gonna rock one after i get rid of my suby
i love it regardless of what anyone says
the sti parked next to my coupe is all i need
everyone's talking shit but once prodrive, cusco and perrin get on the sti
here come the band wagoneers!
mm..... i dunno about that. with the last GD fascia upgrade, when i saw it in pictures, i said, "this looks like shit". i went to the dealership to check them out and then i said "this looks hot as hell". i did the same with the new WRX's. it still looks like shit in person. so yeah..... if subaru was shooting for "the beauty of all wheel drive", this ain't it, imo.
list of things i don't like:
framed door glass.... WTF?
plastic fanstastic legacy engine
lack of big fucking fender flares
lack of big fucking spoiler
lack of big fucking hood scoop
granted, i'm sure it'll sell, but not to purists and enthusiasts. which is kinda what subaru was kinda shooting for.
just my opinion
Antihero983
09-20-2007, 08:28 PM
lol @ the window frames, two techs have hit their head off it so far....im sure i will at some point....:Ownedd:
exitspeed
09-20-2007, 08:53 PM
i'm gonna rock one after i get rid of my suby
i love it regardless of what anyone says
the sti parked next to my coupe is all i need
everyone's talking shit but once prodrive, cusco and perrin get on the sti
here come the band wagoneers!
You can quote me...its still gonna look like shit. You know why? Cause it looks like shit.
s13poop
09-20-2007, 10:04 PM
^ lol that might be
but different strokes for different folks right?
so its not so much talking shit on my part as it is....professional opinion of a shitty overhyped car. :keke:
and yeah, i hope to hell there is a solution to this car's shittyness found in modifying the shit out of it.
word i feel ya on that one
turtl631
09-21-2007, 12:00 AM
What's with so many new cars having these nasty crystal/euro altezza shitbox tailights? It was nice when cars started having red/clear tails and stopped using amber, like the first WRXs we got in the US. Then it went downhilll and now every new car that comes out has the nastiest tails ever.
At this rate it looks like if Mazda puts an AWD drivetrain in the MS3 they'll have a competitor against the STI at least.
I've never owned anything but Nissans, but if I had the ability to get a second car it would probably be a Subbie. I deal with snow and just like their designs, styling, quirky drivetrains, etc. I'd love a swapped GC8 chassis car as a daily driver. I think they're really screwing themselves with these new Imprezas though. Hopefully they don't screw up the Legacy next.
exitspeed
09-21-2007, 08:25 AM
^ lol that might be
but different strokes for different folks right?
Absolutely. However those folks are going to be less and less with these new designs IMO.
Shells
09-22-2007, 01:44 AM
Wow that thing is ugly.
ONYX S-13
09-22-2007, 01:52 AM
i'm gonna rock one after i get rid of my suby
i love it regardless of what anyone says
the sti parked next to my coupe is all i need
everyone's talking shit but once prodrive, cusco and perrin get on the sti
here come the band wagoneers!
Ha ha ha NEVER !!
I'd take an LGT over that anyday (minus the wing)
http://www.gialla.co.jp/gialla/catalog/corsa/img/b4_200405.jpg
http://www.gialla.co.jp/gialla/catalog/corsa/img/b4_r_200308.jpg
http://www.gialla.co.jp/gialla/catalog/corsa/img/b4_r_200405.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/04/liberty-sti.jpg <-- posted by exit speed in another SUby Vs. Mitsu Thread a while ago. (http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=130928)
Suby can learn a thing or two from the LGT's (as far as looks go) unless they are planning on ruining them too. I bet the LGT's still perform better then the new WRX's.
articdragon192
09-22-2007, 03:50 PM
Legacys are hot as hell. They should have kept on with that style. The LGT is a grown up version of the STi. I just hope they don't ruin that car. It is one of the very very few 4 door cars I would ever rock.
Antihero983
09-22-2007, 03:54 PM
a few people came in and asked for a used WRX....the sales person convinced them to try the new 08 wrx....
....they test drove the 08s and then said they definitely wanted a used one LOL
Diabolical
09-22-2007, 04:25 PM
I think it needs a bigger wing and clearer tail lights dat would be so jdm
ONYX S-13
09-22-2007, 09:28 PM
It is one of the very very few 4 door cars I would ever rock.
You and me both my friend.
then said they definitely wanted a used one LOL
Ha ha ha..
Hey I haven't had a chance to drive/sit in a Legacy yet. How are they? I assume you've done both since you work at a dealership, or at least heard from the techs abou them.
Also if I do happen to get one, how are they when it comes to wrenchin? Are they nightmares to work on or are they wrench friendly?
Interesting stuff found on LGT Forums
http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68613 <-- Supercharged Cyl Project
http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46379 <-- Dyno testing Spec B (5 Speed vs. 6 Speed)
In the 0-60, the GT should briefly take the lead. Probably. This would be due to less shifting and smaller wheels -- which is why I am trying to negotiate a swap down to 17" with my Spec B.
1/4 mile (and beyond) and the Spec B should launch into orbit.
But this has been an interesting read. 195 vs 214 hp is a significant difference. One could speculate that atmospheric pressure, heat soak and other beasties could be at play but if it was a routine 20 (or ballpark) hp difference, then the Spec B might be quite the beast with which to trifle.
As for not publishing this "true" hp figure, what about the poor STI? Apart from DCCD, who would want it if the cheaper and more humane Spec B gave nearly the same output? FWIW, I flat out told my salesrep to upsell me to the STI and he told me that there is more to the Spec B than meets the eye and if it were all known, STI sales would drop.
exitspeed
09-24-2007, 10:34 AM
Check this vid out of the Evo X Ralliart. (http://www.nihoncar.com/en/news-593-Lancer+Evolution+X+Ralliart+in+the+Wild.html)
Way better looking then the Suby IMO.
Daniel.
09-24-2007, 12:25 PM
Check this vid out of the Evo X Ralliart. (http://www.nihoncar.com/en/news-593-Lancer+Evolution+X+Ralliart+in+the+Wild.html)
Way better looking then the Suby IMO.
Just found out, 0-60 5.0 seconds, and 1/4mile of 13.8. The straight line performance is inferior to the IX but supposedly its much faster through the corners with a skidpad rating of .97g.
I'm glad I got a IX. :D
exitspeed
09-24-2007, 01:50 PM
Annnnnd more updates. OFFICIAL PICS OF THE Evo GSR!
295 HP and 300 lb.-ft. of torque in GSR and MR guise.
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/09/1432432033_bad9dd9569_o.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/09/1433307756_98cd2bde11_o.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/09/1432433169_86fb9cfad5_o.jpg
Daniel.
09-24-2007, 02:04 PM
The interior looks like there's 12094790357239052 tumors growing from everywhere...
Taniguchi_Is_#1
09-24-2007, 02:17 PM
those fender vents must go!
exitspeed
09-24-2007, 02:18 PM
It's not a tuma...
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/6563/arnold7wh.jpg
ZOMG_S14
09-24-2007, 03:47 PM
lgt > sti > evo
lgt is the only car i would even look at. that sti is uuuugly.
s13poop
09-24-2007, 04:41 PM
man that is evo hideous..
WILDACEX187
09-24-2007, 05:59 PM
evo looks a lil better now that its toned down from the concept version. needs a clutch though. got to sit in the wrx again today. its comfy :) . also wasnt it true that mitsu was going to release a awd turbo lancer but more watered down to compete with the wrx?
jskateborders
09-24-2007, 07:49 PM
01 civic anybody?
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/09/1432432033_bad9dd9569_o.jpg
projectdrifter
09-24-2007, 10:19 PM
http://www.7tune.com/newtune/Peter/msj/10.jpg
http://www.7tune.com/newtune/Peter/msj/09.jpg
exitspeed
10-01-2007, 09:21 AM
Evo X Officially Revealed by Mitsu.
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/10/lancerevox_official_003.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/10/lancerevox_official_009.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/10/lancerevox_official_008.jpg
Press Release:
PRESS RELEASE
Tokyo, October 1, 2007 - Mitsubishi Motors Corporation announces today that it will launch the Lancer Evolution X high-performance 4WD sedan, newest of the company's legendary vehicles, on October 1 at dealerships throughout Japan. Featuring a new platform, engine, and exterior and interior designs, the totally redesigned 2.0-liter model will carry a tax-inclusive price tag ranging from \2,997,750 to \3,750,600. Models fitted with the Twin Clutch SST transmission are due to be launched towards the end of November.
The development goal for the new Lancer Evolution X was to make the car as fast as possible, while also making it as safe to drive as possible. To that end Lancer Evolution X is loaded with the very latest in automotive engineering technology, including the S-AWC (Super All Wheel Control) vehicle dynamics control system and the newly developed, power-efficient Twin Clutch SST (Sport Shift Transmission). Lancer Evolution X is a new-generation high-performance 4WD sedan that allows a new category of driver access to Mitsubishi's dynamic driving experience by underpinning speed with control, security and safety.
* Lancer Evolution X's handsome and aggressive functional design presents an intimidating and exciting aerodynamic exterior suggestive of its superior road performance. This is complemented by a functional interior that encourages the driver to concentrate fully on piloting his machine. Lancer Evolution X uses the front end design identity common to all new Mitsubishi Motors sedans (inverted-slant nose with a trapezoidal grille design) first seen on the new Galant Fortis*. As well as shouting loud the aggressive qualities that mark a high performance sports sedan, the front fascia is crafted for optimum aerodynamic performance.
* Lancer Evolution X realizes very high levels of motive and driving performance thanks to its new high-output and lightweight 2.0-liter DOHC MIVEC turbocharged engine with aluminum block, an all-new body and stiffer suspension. Despite its turbocharged pedigree the new model earns a 3-star rating for emissions that are 50% lower than the requirements of the Japanese 2005 standards. And complementing its powerful and clean road performance is the kind of a safety specification one would expect of a new-generation high-performance model: SRS dual-stage airbags for driver and front passenger, SRS knee airbag for driver and adaptive front lighting system (AFS) are all standard equipment on the GSR trim level.
* The Twin Clutch SST is a 6-speed automated manual transmission incorporating a dual automated clutch system to deliver lightning-fast, slick shifting for feel-good acceleration; while it also provides high-efficiency power transmission for outstanding fuel economy. In keeping with the higher output and torque developed by the new engine, Lancer Evolution X is offered with a new 5-speed manual transmission that delivers smoother shifting and improved shift feel for those who prefer the joys and more direct control of manual shifting.
* All Lancer Evolution X GSR models are fitted with the S-AWC vehicle dynamics control system. The system intelligently manages several component systems to regulate drive torque and braking force at each wheel, reading and reflecting driver intent in real time over a wide range of situations. This allows drivers of all abilities to enjoy sporty driving with peace of mind.
* Lancer / Lancer EX in overseas markets.
I . Lancer Evolution X walkaround
1. Model lineup
Sporting the S-AWC and Twin Clutch SST and other cutting-edge automotive technology as well as a more comprehensive functional and convenience equipment specification, the GSR trim level (also available with a 5-speed manual transmission) leads the new Lancer Evolution X lineup. The lineup also continues to offer the RS competition base model, with a less comprehensive and simplified equipment specification to reduce weight to a minimum.
To meet customers' wide-ranging expectations in a high-performance sports sedan, the GSR trim level is available with the following option packages:
* High Performance Package : Raises the bar a notch further in terms of driving performance.
* Stylish Exterior Package : Adds classy dressup elements to the exterior.
* Leather Combination Interior : For a more uptown and comfortable interior.
Also available is the Premium Package that combines all these packages and adds 18-inch BBS lightweight alloy wheels to meld the ultimate in performance with a classy and quality appearance.
2. Exterior
The exterior is crafted with sophisticated and aggressive styling to give the low-and-wide squat stance body an aerodynamically clean profile that flows liquidly from the inverted-slant nose over the roof to the tail end, using wind-tunnel proven aero parts.
* Molded around the inverted-slant nose and trapezoidal grille, the aggressive and powerful front fascia features larger air intake openings and new ducting for superior engine cooling and aerodynamics and leaves no doubt as to Lancer Evolution X's high performance.
* The engine hood air outlet and fender vents effectively exhaust heat from the engine compartment. Together with the engine hood air scoop that supplies cooling air to the turbocharger these elements give vivid accent to Evolution X's exterior looks.
* The oversize rear spoiler - standard on the GSR - uses a twisted-section wing panel with different attack angles at its ends and in the center portion to match the airflow over the body surface.
* A large undercover rectifies underbody airflow for better aerodynamics and also improves drivetrain cooling. The underside of the rear bumper employs a diffuser design that helps to exhaust the underbody airflow more effectively and also adds a distinguishing touch to the rear view.
* The Stylish Exterior Package option uses a chrome finish for the front grille lattice and beltline molding, body color-keyed fender vents and adds fog lamps to give the exterior a touch of uptown elegance.
* The GSR trim level is offered in a lineup of five body colors designed to strongly project a functionally aesthetic image and including a vividly sporty Red Metallic and a new classy and deep-hue Phantom Black Pearl. RS is offered in two body colors, including White Solid which is exclusive to this trim level.
3. Interior
The interior design places emphasis on functional and operational elements to encourage and allow the driver to concentrate on operating his machine while at the same time realizing levels of comfort and quality that expected in a new-generation sports sedan.
* Seats are done by Recaro - well-known for providing excellent location, hold, and for alleviating fatigue on longer journeys - with a new full bucket front seat design. The new seats offer additional safety, accommodating the factory-fitted optional SRS side airbag; and comfort, with improved seating feeling, easier exit and entry and a less "constraining" feeling. The rear seats feature a central armrest with handy cup holders.
* Lancer Evolution X uses a small diameter steering wheel designed for smooth operation; its genuine leather wrap provides a positive and comfortable fitment to the hand. For optimum operability the S-AWC mode selector is located on the left spoke. (The selector is located on the shift lever panel on models with the factory-fitted MMCS HDD navigation system option, in which case the steering wheel spokes are used to locate the remote audio controls.)
* Lancer Evolution X uses a high-contrast instrumentation cluster providing excellent viewability. A Multi-information Display provides the driver with at-a-glance vehicle status information, including: fuel remaining, Twin Clutch SST mode, and S-AWC operating mode.
* The dashboard uses a bowed design with the center panel offset toward the driver that provides more knee space and realizes a functional and comfortable cockpit environment for the driver.
* The black interior color scheme uses silver accents on the steering wheel spokes, shift lever panel and other operating controls to impart a look that is sporty and also evoke the feeling of a precision instrument.
* The Leather Combination Interior package uses leather combination seat upholstery (genuine leather with Glanluxe*1), doors and floor console lid trimmed in soft synthetic leather and aluminum front scuff plates. The package also boosts sound insulation, making for a classier and more comfortable interior.
*1: An artificial suede-finish leather made by Seiren Co., Ltd.
4. Powertrain
Engine
* Lancer Evolution X is powered by a new turbocharged engine that adds a high-performance turbocharger to the 4B11-type 2.0-liter 4-cylinder 16-valve DOHC MIVEC unit used in the Galant Fortis. Developing more power over the full rev range, this engine generates more torque at 422 Nm (43.0 kg-m)/3500 rpm and has better response than its 4G63 predecessor. The new engine is also lighter and returns better environmental performance.
* The application of continuously variable valve timing technology (MIVEC) to both intake and exhaust camshafts realizes valve timing optimally matched to engine speed and load to stabilize combustion characteristics and allow the engine to develop more power over the full rev range. It also improves emissions performance. Lancer Evolution X earns a 3-star rating for emissions that are 50% under the Japanese 2005 Emissions Standards levels.
* The new engine, excluding auxiliary equipment, is 12 kg lighter than the 4G63 thanks to the use of a die-cast aluminum cylinder block, head cover and chain case.
* Using a titanium-aluminum alloy turbine wheel and aluminum alloy compressor wheel, the turbocharger features a shape-optimized compressor wheel that improves boost response and increases low-end and mid-range torque.
* The adoption of a rearward facing exhaust manifold layout has, as well as improving exhaust efficiency, allowed the engine to be mounted lower, lowering the center of gravity. Other innovations have reduced intake/exhaust system losses and valvetrain friction, contributing to improved engine performance.
Transmissions
* The GSR is available with the new Twin Clutch SST 6-speed automated manual transmission that eliminates the need for a clutch pedal and provides slick, smooth shifting. Twin Clutch SST puts odd (1st, 3rd, 5th) and even (2nd, 4th and 6th) gears on separate input shafts each with its own clutch and, through tight cooperative control with the engine, switches between these clutches to realize seamless and lightning-fast shifting for feel-good acceleration. Because it uses clutches rather than a torque converter to transmit power, Twin Clutch SST allows superior power transmission efficiency with little loss of motive power and returns excellent fuel economy. Twin Clutch SST allows the driver to choose between Autoshift fully automatic shifting and Manual Shift, where the driver can change gears as with a manual transmission. A toggle switch located at the base of the shift selector allows the driver to choose between Normal, Sport and Super Sport modes for the optimum shift scheduling for a wide variety of situations ranging from driving around town to tracing a tight line on a winding road.
* Twin Clutch SST models are fitted as standard with steering column-mounted lightweight magnesium paddle shifters that allow the driver to shift manually without taking his hand off the steering wheel.
* For drivers who enjoy having more direct control over their machine, the GSR is available with a new 5-speed manual transmission. (The RS is only available with this manual gearbox.) Benefiting from the know-how Mitsubishi Motors has accumulated in the motorsport arena the new manual gearbox features a greater torque capacity to handle the higher torque generated by the new turbocharged engine without growing in size. First to fourth gears use close ratios. 1st gear uses a lower ratio than previously for better standing acceleration while 5th gear uses a higher ratio for more comfortable high-speed cruising. The new transmission uses multi-cone synchronizer rings on all gears for smoother shifting and a more positive shift feel as well as for improved durability.
5. Chassis
Body
* Lancer Evolution X's new platform achieves significant increases in body stiffness, with gains in torsional and flexural stiffness of 40% and 60% respectively over Lancer Evolution IX MR. This results in better handling stability and crashworthiness, as well as in improved ride and in reduced vibration and noise, to realize levels of quality and comfort that befit a new-generation sports sedan.
* Lancer Evolution X's wider track and longer wheelbase not only create a more spacious living space but also bring improved stability and ride. Other factors contributing to the new model's improved handling include its lower center of gravity stemming from the lower powertrain, and better front/rear weight distribution resulting from the lower engine weight, a front overhang that is 20 mm shorter than on the Lancer Evolution IX MR, and the transfer of the battery to the trunk.
* To reduce weight and lower the center of gravity, aluminum is used in the roof panel, front fenders and the rear spoiler frame structure.
Suspension & tires
* While based on the MacPherson strut front and multi-link rear suspension arrangement used on previous models in the series, Lancer Evolution X features a revamped suspension layout with wider tracks and 18-inch tires. Geometry optimization and greater stiffness in the mountings maximizes the contact patch and allows S-AWC to perform to its full potential as well as bringing improved straight line stability, cornering and ride.
* GSR comes standard with 245/40R18 wide and low-aspect tires on 18-inch Enkei 12-spoke high-rigidity cast alloy wheels. 18-inch BBS lightweight alloy wheels are also available as a factory-fitted option for GSR and add a distinctive custom touch with a luster finish.
* GSR comes standard with brembo 18-inch front and 17-inch rear ventilated disc brakes. The increased disc size improves stopping power and fade resistance as well as improving brake pedal feel.
* The factory-fitted High Performance Package comprises the Bilstein single tube shock absorbers and Eibach coil springs used on Lancer Evolution IX MR. It also includes brembo 2-piece disc brakes that realize a saving of 1.3 kg at each wheel and high performance tires with stiffer walls and better grip. This package brings further improvements in grip, steering response, stability and cornering.
4WD system (S-AWC)
* The GSR trim level comes with Mitsubishi Motors' own 4WD vehicle dynamics control system S-AWC (Super All Wheel Control) standard. For Lancer Evolution X, Active Stability Control (ASC) has been added to the ACD*2, AYC*3 and Sport ABS*4 component systems featured in previous Lancer Evolution. S-AWC uses integrated management of these systems to exert high-precision control on drive torque and brake force at each wheel to enhance cornering and stability under all conditions from everyday driving to emergency evasion; thereby producing vehicle behavior that faithfully reflects driver intent. S-AWC offers three operating modes - TARMAC for dry, paved surfaces; GRAVEL for wet or unmade surfaces, and SNOW for snow covered surfaces - allowing the driver to select the mode best suited to current road surface conditions and realize greater stability.
*2: ACD (Active Center Differential)
The Active Center Differential uses an electronically-controlled hydraulic multi-plate clutch to optimize front/rear wheel torque split and thereby produce the best balance between traction and steering response.
*3: AYC (Active Yaw Control)
AYC uses a torque transfer mechanism in the rear differential to control rear wheel torque differential for different driving conditions and so limit the yaw moment that acts on the vehicle body and thus enhance cornering performance. AYC now features yaw rate feedback control using a yaw rate sensor to more accurately determine the cornering dynamics on a real-time basis. And the addition of braking force control allows the system to realize vehicle behavior that more closely mirrors driver intent.
*4: Sport ABS (Sport Anti-lock Brake System)
ABS allows the driver to maintain directional control and keeps the vehicle stable by preventing the wheels from locking under heavy braking or when braking on slippery surfaces. The addition of yaw rate sensors and brake pressure sensors to the Sport ABS system has improved braking performance through corners.
*5: Active Stability Control (ASC)
The ASC system stabilizes vehicle attitude while maintaining optimum traction by regulating engine power and the braking force at each wheel. ASC elevates vehicle stability by suppressing skidding in an emergency evasion maneuver or as the result of other sudden steering inputs. It also improves traction under acceleration by preventing the driving wheels from spinning on slippery surfaces.
6. Peace of mind / Safety specifications
* Standard on GSR are driver and front passenger SRS dual-stage airbags (driver dual-stage airbag standard on RS), the inflation pressure of which is controlled to match the severity of the impact, and the driver SRS knee airbag used on the Delica D:5 and Galant Fortis. SRS side and curtain airbags are available as factory-fitted options.
* GSR comes standard with discharge headlights and the adaptive front lighting system (AFS), in which auxiliary lights turn in the same direction as the steering wheel to increase the area of road illuminated and improve driver visibility at night.
* Rain-sensitive auto wipers that adjust wipe speed and interval to rain intensity and auto light control that monitors the intensity of peripheral light, turning the headlights on or off accordingly, are factory-fitted options on the GSR.
* All models come standard with an engine immobilizer and security alarm to deter theft. (The security alarm is standard on the GSR only.)
7. Audio / Utility
* The GSR trim level is available with the Mitsubishi Motors Communication System (MMCS) as a factory-fitted option which comprises a 30Gb hard disk drive audio/navigation system with 7-inch LCD screen.
* Available as a factory-fitted option on the GSR is the Rockford Fosgate premium sound system - well received on the Outlander and other models. The system uses a 650-Watt amplifier and nine speakers to deliver awesome high-fidelity sound assisted by the use of acoustic and damping material to seal off openings inside the doors and turn them into speaker boxes.
* Available as a factory-fitted option on the GSR is a keyless operating system that allows the driver to lock or unlock the doors and to start or stop the engine without having to take the remote unit out of pocket or handbag.
* Standard on all models is the Mitsubishi Motors ETACS (Electric Time and Alarm Control System) system. The system controls the operating environment for the Comfort Flasher - a dab on the flasher stalk causes the turn signal to flash three times; very handy when changing lanes - and the headlight auto-off feature which prevents accidental drainage of the battery and other electronic systems fitted to Lancer Evolution X.
II . Sales information
1. Monthly sales target : 4,000 units (FY2007 total)
2. Available at Mitsubishi dealerships throughout Japan
3. Manufacturer's recommended retail price (MMRP)
GSR* 4-cyl. 2.0-liter 16-valve DOHC MIVEC with intercooler-turbocharger 5M/T Full-time 4WD (S-AWC): 3,495,450
Twin Clutch SST: 3,750,600
RS 5M/T Full-time 4WD: 2,997,750
N.B. Prices exclusive of recycling surcharge, insurance, taxes (but inclusive of consumption tax) and registration costs.
* Twin Clutch SST version due to be launched in late November
kyoru
10-01-2007, 10:07 AM
good luck subaru, they are going to get smoked this model iteration lol
ONYX S-13
10-01-2007, 06:29 PM
^+1
After reading this I'm actually excited about this car.. I hate how part of the front is black instead of all one color (Which would be easy to fix if I had the car).. The back is still terrible but not as bad as the STI/WRX. That white one actually looks dang good. Kudos to you Mitsu !
Thanks for the update Exit.
BTW: The tails look like they were stolen from the Altezza
ZOMG_S14
10-02-2007, 04:34 AM
it just reminds me too much of a 4door rx8 from everywhere but the front
KA24DESOneThree
10-02-2007, 09:49 AM
New WRX/STi- Hyundai called. They want their stylist back.
New Evo- Yeah, you've got that whole European sedan look down. You just stole it from the wrong manufacturer.
Purists unite against ugly-ass new cars.
Daniel.
10-02-2007, 10:46 AM
New WRX/STi- Hyundai called. They want their stylist back.
New Evo- Yeah, you've got that whole European sedan look down. You just stole it from the wrong manufacturer.
Purists unite against ugly-ass new cars.
You said it.
:down: to ugly new cars.
exitspeed
10-03-2007, 09:57 AM
New Vid of the Sti hot lapping on the Ring:
Here. (http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/video.php?illustration=226)
Antihero983
10-03-2007, 10:02 AM
New WRX/STi- Hyundai called. They want their stylist back.
New Evo- Yeah, you've got that whole European sedan look down. You just stole it from the wrong manufacturer.
Purists unite against ugly-ass new cars.
:keke: :bowrofl:
ha! nice!!! i agree. the new impreza is not growing on me at all, and i see them every day at work.
and after driving a new wrx and a new hatch/wagon (the call them wagons at the dealership :keke: ) i'd rather take a bullet to the testicles than own one. ugh
S13project
10-03-2007, 10:18 AM
sorry needed to see a real subaru again(my daily):
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a247/gc8sti/ThaGC/IMG_3069-1.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a247/gc8sti/ThaGC/IMG_3070.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a247/gc8sti/ThaGC/DSC00207_1.jpg
jskateborders
10-04-2007, 08:52 PM
I love that car
exitspeed
10-09-2007, 08:05 AM
Wow, since no one posted it...here are THE OFFICIAL PHOTO's!
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/10/sti__05.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/10/sti__02.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/10/sti__03.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/10/sti__01.jpg
Kuzumi
10-09-2007, 08:55 AM
i would so buy one if i could :)
can't wait to see some video's of it in action
Taniguchi_Is_#1
10-09-2007, 11:33 AM
i guess i looks......... okay? if you cover up the front, it looks like a squashed bmw x5. rofl.
They need to seriously chop two doors off. Hatchbacks are way cooler when they are coupes.
exitspeed
10-09-2007, 12:00 PM
The hood scoop is tooooo big. It's a giant gapping hole. I don't like gapping hole porn nor do I like'em on my cars.
ManoNegra
10-09-2007, 12:52 PM
I like! Black's looking good, even the tail lights are growing on me.
WILDACEX187
10-09-2007, 01:34 PM
haters gonna hate but that car is flyyyyyy
ONYX S-13
10-09-2007, 06:01 PM
I abhor the rear.. It just screams " LEXUS RX !" to me =/
http://photos.freshalloy.com/gallery/d/30024-2/untitled_002.jpg
tacotacotaco
10-09-2007, 06:09 PM
interesting.
articdragon192
10-09-2007, 06:14 PM
Bleh .
illvialuver
10-09-2007, 10:02 PM
don't mean to be a hater, but I think it looks like a bmw had sex witha ford focus hatchback.
WILDACEX187
10-09-2007, 11:30 PM
^^hmm u might have something going
http://www.focusklubpolska.com.pl/newsy/focus_cosworth.jpg
http://www.bmwusa.com/NR/rdonlyres/8A6873A4-BEFE-480B-AE40-94F8A476C147/0/0627_03_sm.jpg
exitspeed
10-10-2007, 08:09 AM
I abhor the rear.. It just screams " LEXUS RX !" to me =/
http://photos.freshalloy.com/gallery/d/30024-2/untitled_002.jpg
I see no similarities at all. :ughd: :ghey: The rear I think is by far the weakest part of the design. Front is actually not that bad compared the the previous Alfa grill.
The back looks ok it's just the brake lights that kills it.
s13poop
10-10-2007, 11:45 AM
http://www.undergroundgrfx.com/img/wrxhatch03.jpg
http://www.undergroundgrfx.com/img/wrxhatch02.jpg
underground grafx already fixed your euro problem i'm pretty sure rockblocker is gonna be on it next..
BOROSUN
10-10-2007, 01:07 PM
sweet led taillights..........!
exitspeed
10-10-2007, 01:18 PM
Oh, yea those tails look much better.
s13poop
10-10-2007, 05:02 PM
^ yuppppp can't wait til the cusco/ prodrive stuff comes out :bigok:
DUBCITY
11-02-2007, 03:48 PM
i love 5dr hatches, but any hatch wins in my eyes over a 4 door sedan.
sedans have that stupid rear tray which cuts everything in half making it impossible to transport anything.
as far as performane goes, im betting on the STI.
have you guys even looked at the specs?
the evo is up to 3500lbs, thats Supra TT territory
i actually praise subaru for the fact that they managedto decreased the weight from the 2006 model. i think its somewhere around 3200-3300lbs, which is damn light for a 300hp awd 4-door. when every car is getting heavier, this is a step in the right direction by subaru.
subaru also has the 2.5l vs evo 2.0l, both have comparable hp, but when upgrading, turbos will be spooling much faster with the 2.5l.
anyways, anything looks better than that 06 sti front end.
ronmcdon
11-02-2007, 04:47 PM
changing the tails to regular non-altezzas do make a huge improvement.
I also noticed the tacky chrome panel between the tailights are on the wrx, but not on the STi. getting rid of that (or any other chrome-plated junk) should also help with the cars' look.
While the looks of the STI is growing on me, the regular wrx/2.5rs looks super cheap and hyundai-like. without the flares, the car looks like it has no balls or class (the WRX/STi was never a high-class car per say, but it never looked like a kia before either). Taking an STI over a WRX has always been a no-brainer to me, but still I wish they could have done a better job with esp the WRX. there's a lot of needless tacky details thrown in that only serve to make the car look more guady.
B18C5MK1
11-25-2007, 03:59 PM
Front is actually not that bad compared the the previous Alfa grill.
yeah. i think it looks way better..
OptionZero
11-25-2007, 04:20 PM
cars look like peugot style poorly executed
water
11-25-2007, 04:21 PM
I like the front from a dead on perspective but other than that, not at all.
Ethix
11-25-2007, 04:44 PM
I think it looks decent. It's a definite improvement on the base WRX which looks terrible, but I'd still rather have an 04-06.
-Mark
exitspeed
12-05-2007, 12:24 PM
From Autoblog:
It didn't take long for Japan's journalists to get the new STI and EVO X side by side, and the results are now officially in. Tsukuba circuit regulars Kazuo Shimizu and Manabu Kawaguchi spent an afternoon thrashing around the notoriously twisty short circuit just north of Tokyo and here (drum roll please) are the best times they could ring out of the AWD rivals:
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X : 1:06:46
Subaru Impreza WRX STI : 1:05:95
So there you have it. The new engine placed further forward in the engine bay of the EVO X than in the EVO IX has indeed proven to be a handicap, while the STI's "wheel at each corner" longer wheelbase plus new double wishbone rear suspension has proved its worth.
Neither car is quite as quick as its immediate ancestor though. Check out this 15 year rivalry of the EVO vs the STI as recorded at Tsukuba:
EVO / STI
2006 1:05:07 / 1:04:72
2005 1:04.88 / 1:04:17
2003 1:05:30 / 1:04:69
2001 1:05:17 / 1:06:56
1998 1:04:69 / 1:06:73
1996 1:07:00 / 1:05:92
1994 1:06:52 / 1:06:26
1992 1:10:90 / 1:07:99
Matej
12-05-2007, 12:36 PM
Friend in Japan took some pics a few weeks ago.
http://a363.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/34/l_98727c641fc803172a9ecdc15d285e32.jpg
http://a761.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/126/l_88909d5c3972c8003c768fd9e3b56dc0.jpg
http://a133.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/115/l_9f5f8dfdb89a22d8280dfa914c1f3e34.jpg
http://a149.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/74/l_0f0b9a52b63036025d3737e4e8976774.jpg
http://a852.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/103/l_2a76b078a555dd3c6d94ef33a7a6cc8b.jpg
http://a724.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/116/l_9eab0b644baa6f0e8a08f17022d46823.jpg
http://a952.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/104/l_b9d7879416ffb07b8ca2bf1baed2575f.jpg
http://a47.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/114/l_c7239646253c0a69c709ff7121085426.jpg
http://a113.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/24/l_38c86a18c9a5848216f08dc111f2b850.jpg
http://a747.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/78/l_8160fb56183b675ed8acc40d316ffa22.jpg
http://a840.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/64/l_5f0c1ed1be727600816294f64950bf77.jpg
S13Boosts
12-05-2007, 02:35 PM
:2f2f: dont mind driving one.
ManoNegra
12-05-2007, 03:12 PM
^^ Those are some ugly as wheels. Saw it first hand at the LA Auto Show. Dopeness!
nevaland9
12-05-2007, 07:32 PM
it looks like a slammed BMW X5
k's_silvia2.0
12-05-2007, 07:34 PM
Its gonna grow on me just like the 06-07's :(
ronmcdon
12-06-2007, 04:04 PM
From Autoblog:
It didn't take long for Japan's journalists to get the new STI and EVO X side by side, and the results are now officially in. Tsukuba circuit regulars Kazuo Shimizu and Manabu Kawaguchi spent an afternoon thrashing around the notoriously twisty short circuit just north of Tokyo and here (drum roll please) are the best times they could ring out of the AWD rivals:
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X : 1:06:46
Subaru Impreza WRX STI : 1:05:95
EVO / STI
2006 1:05:07 / 1:04:72
2005 1:04.88 / 1:04:17
2003 1:05:30 / 1:04:69
2001 1:05:17 / 1:06:56
1998 1:04:69 / 1:06:73
1996 1:07:00 / 1:05:92
1994 1:06:52 / 1:06:26
1992 1:10:90 / 1:07:99
That's pretty depressing for the EVO X. Along with some of the other tests of recent, its further proof that the X is one of the weakest versions ever.
Interesting how the new STi is slower than the outgoing model by quite a margin. It doesn't deviate too much from its predecessor, and all the changes hypothetically seem to be advantageous (more power, less weight, rear multilink, etc). In that sense, I totally disagree the STi's new suspension design proved its worth. It hasn't proved anything so far. It's not fair to claim that the new STi is better simply b/c of one test like this, but it should be interesting to compare further with other tests in the future. So far, I see no evidence the new STi is meaningfully better in performance than the outgoing model.
Daniel.
12-06-2007, 04:57 PM
I said it once, and I'll say it again. I'm glad I didn't wait for the evo X.
ronmcdon
12-06-2007, 11:23 PM
I said it once, and I'll say it again. I'm glad I didn't wait for the evo X.
likewise I'm happy with my 06 STi. Nothing worth trading in (at least not south of 70k).
s13poop
12-17-2007, 03:29 PM
08 in aspen white with BBS package :D
http://lh4.google.com/harmanmotiveinc/R2ImkZuk0rI/AAAAAAAABoE/yYdLBbcdEgQ/s800/DSC_0065.JPG
http://lh3.google.com/harmanmotiveinc/R2ImtJuk0zI/AAAAAAAABpE/sWgE8bsMslY/s800/DSC_0074.JPG
http://lh5.google.com/harmanmotiveinc/R2Imipuk0qI/AAAAAAAABn8/Oq6RNEfxW2M/s800/DSC_0064.
http://lh4.google.com/harmanmotiveinc/R2ImxZuk02I/AAAAAAAABpg/p89IbzKsEVo/s800/DSC_0077.JPG
exitspeed
12-17-2007, 03:30 PM
Damn, it's kinda growing on me.
s13poop
12-17-2007, 03:37 PM
i tollllllllllllllllllld ya
the seats are kinda meh but can be replaced with the jdm recaro ones :bigok:
http://corism.221616.com/articles/0000068288/crsm0000000000.jpg
exitspeed
12-17-2007, 03:48 PM
I still prefer the older older style ones.
s13poop
12-17-2007, 04:28 PM
word
but the more i see them styled it makes me want to buy one :/
muddafakka
12-17-2007, 04:45 PM
I still prefer the older older style ones.
Same here. The new ones are meh (talking about styling, not performance). Front end doesn't look too bad but that rear end is what kills it for me.
It'll probably grow on me more later on.
SW20Racer
12-17-2007, 04:58 PM
Same here. The new ones are meh (talking about styling, not performance). Front end doesn't look too bad but that rear end is what kills it for me.
It'll probably grow on me more later on.
truth. except for the growing on me part. im not fan of wagons at all, too family oriented "lets go on a picnic" looking for me to say "damn!" when one drives buy. and the new sedan model reminds me of a camry or something...i think they kinda slipped on this one. maybe a crazy widebody and nice rims on the sedan will change my mind....
240sx_sr20det
12-17-2007, 08:43 PM
Not a fan of the 08's. 04/05 body style will always be my favorite.
exitspeed
12-18-2007, 07:58 AM
First Front end and rear end conversion done in Japan.
http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/sti-2.thumbnail.jpg
http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/sti-1.thumbnail.jpg
http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/sti-3.thumbnail.jpg
ronmcdon
12-18-2007, 11:52 AM
The 08 STi 'build your own' feature is up in the NA Subaru website;
http://www.subaru.com/shop/configurator/step2.jsp?from=quickLinks&model=IMPREZAWRX&trim=STI
also wonder if this is worthwhile to save a bit more off an STi
http://www.imba.com/tcc/subaru.html
exitspeed
12-18-2007, 11:57 AM
Woot, $39k!
I'll just take a G35x w/ Nav for $40k.
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