View Full Version : SR20det WHP baller turbo thread
NissanOwnsU
09-10-2007, 02:36 PM
Well I searched and couldnt find a thread like this....when it gets cold im doing a new setup maybe the full race GT3567 or a borg warner.....i was just wondering what everyone makes on pump / race gas....so lets compare setups because im thinking of running c16 all the time
Ill Start my car made a whimpy 450whp @ 16psi from a t04e....
not whimpy for the turbo but whimpy in general
now you go :)
DP_Michelle G
09-10-2007, 03:10 PM
threads point less with out pics
post dyno sheets :)
PoorMans180SX
09-10-2007, 03:18 PM
Second above
cbcustoms
09-10-2007, 03:22 PM
Are you rich cause running C16 all the time is going to be expensive and I call bullshit until I see a dyno graph
eastcoastS14
09-10-2007, 03:23 PM
yeah post your dyno sheets
mine was 350whp at 17psi T3/t04e 57trim .63 a/r
plenty fast if you ask me
smelly240
09-10-2007, 05:36 PM
lol - lets start a thread with no pics or graphs so people think we rock :)
anyway - my pos makes like 200hp and 180 torque -
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q19/smelly240/eng12807-2.jpg
LOL yeah right.
O3DigitalBath
09-10-2007, 05:40 PM
*inserts mazworx old dyno*
http://www.stfu-n-race.com/misc/mazworx1000hp.jpg
/close thread.
smelly240
09-10-2007, 05:44 PM
i love that graph. p.s. are you following me around?
can someone really close this one b4 it turns into a nico ka vs sr my turbo is better than urs thread
Sil-Eighty SE-K
09-10-2007, 06:23 PM
442rwhp 368tq
22psi and 110 octane (cam2)
sr20det
stock bottom end
precision sc-61 t3/t04e
full race manifold
hks 264's
ported head,
tomei 1.2mm HG, RAS and valve springs,
740cc tomei inj
greddy intake mani
enthalpy tune
much more...thats just the brunt of it
I wanted to run a GT35R for a couple years now....should see closer to 600whp with that one
NissanOwnsU
09-11-2007, 11:35 AM
Alright i could care less who believes what my car makes....i want to know facts dont tell people to close my thread when im trying to compare info. with people who actually matter......but if u must have proof here are some pics if u wanna hear about my dyno results call MA-motorsports.....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v726/Goodstuff86/071.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v726/Goodstuff86/eafe7d45.jpg
NissanOwnsU
09-11-2007, 11:39 AM
heres a little video 2
http://thumbs.vidiac.com/comment/4d831960-a32d-4469-a18d-996100121d6c.jpg (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/4d831960-a32d-4469-a18d-996100121d6c.htm)
GSXRJJordan
09-11-2007, 12:15 PM
^^^ Sorry man, but I agree with some of the comments on your Streetfire vid's page. Not saying the car's lame, but the video sure is. Doesn't show me much - we need a dyno sheet and/or a parts list.
By the way, what's most impressive is the shape of the curve, not the peak number. That's why people ask for sheets vs. peak hp.
Steve Shadows should be posting in 5...4...3...2...
McRussellPants
09-11-2007, 04:48 PM
Any SR car I've ridden in with bigger than a 3071 feels stupid.
NissanOwnsU
09-11-2007, 08:22 PM
Umm....the point of the thread is I think the car is lame well not lame but not enough....and i know the video is lame i didnt make it....also main focus is supposed to be on other peoples dyno sheets so i can compare setups and see which road to take, i dont have my dyno sheet online just a piece of paper if anyone local wants to check it out u can feel free.....
My build is as follows.....
To4e 60 trim, Greddy front mount, Peakboost top mount kit, Apexi N1, Hks 272's, Eagle rods, CP pistons, Headwork, Springs, Retainings, Balanced crank, rocker arm stoppers, anything else supporting wise that im forgettings and a bunch of other BS......also i have the world electronics electronic boost controller and the apex power FC Di-jetro....
Brian W.
09-11-2007, 10:59 PM
RJ's car is pretty damn fast.... I can vouch for that. ...and a BEAST on the highway for what it is.
Once we get you setup again RJ itll be where you want it or MORE.... just talk with Ray.
NissanOwnsU
09-12-2007, 08:20 AM
Well atleast now theres no more dis-belief now will sum1 else post there setup so i can get a clue......any 35r / t67 people out there? hell even a 37r or 4088 i just wanna see some numbers
NissanOwnsU
09-12-2007, 08:27 AM
Oh and for people asking if im rich and what not no im not rich im a 20year old tax associate at a private accounting firm and i live at home so i have only about $200/month in bills which leaves alot of money to play with.....i was considering buying a GTR but i figure while i already have the build i might as well make the power.....
steve shadows
09-12-2007, 10:05 AM
Well I searched and couldnt find a thread like this....when it gets cold im doing a new setup maybe the full race GT3567 or a borg warner.....i was just wondering what everyone makes on pump / race gas....so lets compare setups because im thinking of running c16 all the time
Ill Start my car made a whimpy 450whp @ 16psi from a t04e....
not whimpy for the turbo but whimpy in general
now you go :)
If it was on a dynojet im buying an axe and a planeticket
after switching frmo limited tuning on dynojet experience, to DynoDynamics it was like finding out your mother has been a tranny prostitute all these years. The HP diff readout was that substantial. This started to wain on my trust of Dynometers in general. I put down 373 on a dynamics unit and 430 ranges on dynojet....yeah thats right.
Sooo what does this mean? What it always meant, dynos are tuning tools. Dynojets are ok for overall consistant tune on FULL THROTTLE tune only. You cannot tune in static load point format on a dynojet. ITs worthless for tuning an entire map.
Dynodynamics or Mustang Dyno is a real tuning tool + PRO as I like to call it. Static Load, Part Throttle, Roll ons etc.
I also like to call it the Hype-Eliminator.
here is my dyno before I had to replace the clutch (dyno told me the clutch was slipping very bad, the torque curve just looks like a a bunch of spike due to inconsistant power delivery) the car was doing 420 whp pulls on a dyno jet.
AFR is 10:1 (plenty of overhead for leaning out under load) and the timing map is still conservative, this is why a linear progressive map in all places on slope up to MBT and Peak Torque yields the best peak power overall as well (so no matter what a dyno that can allow for static load tuning is the best over the drum dyno aka dynojet). Dynojet is a numbres dyno imho.
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb129/shadowerks/HPIM1473.jpg
17 psi, 91 octane only, un-tuned, base run. 264 step 2 cams, stock bottom internals, apexi 1.2 head gasket, 850cc inj, 5 angle valve job, Peak Perf valve train, Re-Shimmed rocker pads, greddy intake manifold, Peak Boost Single Scroll Manifold.
85 MPH is 4k rpm.
stopped at 7k power was still climbing despite the cluthc
heres the car last spring at only 13.8 psi of boost.
http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=7317172
no dyno tuning at all with the old t61/t3 which was even lower output from what I can tell and less power band.
http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=8469571
17 psi, power band from 5500-8k. shifted early in 4th at 7200 in vid. This is with only 1 hour of street tuning. in March 2007
all these claims are nothing without pictures don' start a fucking dyno number thread if I am the only one who is actually going to be honest. oh and only post your recent ones with your current projects.
NissanOwnsU
09-12-2007, 01:19 PM
sounds about right considering i made 390whp on a dyno dynamics.....nice to see sum1 post up something useful :) car looks like it pulls........
but again this is not me trying to "brag" about what my car makes on a dyno it is to see what other people made on a whatever they used....if i wanted to enter a pissing contest i would go out to the street races......im sure brian has my dynodynamics online sumwhere if not ill take a picture of my printout just for the people who care sooooo much about my personal numbers
steve shadows
09-12-2007, 02:58 PM
cool yeah
its not.
The point of a dyno thread is to see the dyno GRAPH imo.
Silverbullet
09-12-2007, 07:44 PM
only idiots compare peak HP/torque numbers.
+1 for graphs. It actually tells you information.
NissanOwnsU
09-12-2007, 08:40 PM
Again i want to see what other people did i already know what i did....silver bullet unless your gonna post your sheet gtfo of my thread.....if you would have read the point of it in the first place maybe u just wouldnt have commented.....never insult my intelligence
steve shadows
09-12-2007, 10:19 PM
ok asshole :ugh:
whats the point of this thread then?
you make a claim, then expect everyone else to show you graphs?
to compare what? peak numbers
SixSpeedSleuth
09-12-2007, 11:52 PM
Here's my dyno graph. Not "Baller" but plenty of whp for the street/autocross/drag strip. Twin-Scroll 3071R, Full-Race Twin-Scroll Manifold. 19PSI, pump gas, JWT S4 Cams, Apexi HG and stock bottom end. Dyno was a dynojet, that's the only thing I have near me other than shitty ass hub dyno's. (IMO).
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j15/StopTheExcuses/TopDynoRun.jpg
steve shadows
09-13-2007, 10:21 AM
cool man saw this on FA.
Next week im going dyno tuning again on my car.
looking 400+ whp at 17.5 psi on 91 oct with the 3076 on the dyndynamics.
Im going to try to find a dynojet so I can do a side by side comparison of read outs up here, of course both without any smoothing on the torque/hp curves.
NissanOwnsU
09-13-2007, 12:36 PM
How many times do i have to explain it fucktard I want to see what other setups are doing because i know what my own does....next time i wont mention what mine does so people that feel the need to jump in other peoples shit and say proove it stay the fuck out.....
If i wanted to get E-thugged i would post on VW vortex......i didnt know u had to trade dyno graphs to see sum1 else's....mines already infront of me and again i could care less if any1 believe what my car makes.....
So do me a favor master of all dyno sheets.....dont talk in my thread if u came here to start shit.....the point of this thread can be whatever i want it to be hense it being MY THREAD
SixSpeedSleuth
09-13-2007, 04:19 PM
cool man saw this on FA.
Next week im going dyno tuning again on my car.
looking 400+ whp at 17.5 psi on 91 oct with the 3076 on the dyndynamics.
Im going to try to find a dynojet so I can do a side by side comparison of read outs up here, of course both without any smoothing on the torque/hp curves.
I would be very interested in finding out the results of a side by side comparison as well. I'm also thinking of switching to the 3076s shortly. Supposedly same spool time as what I'm running, but with more topend hp.
How many times do i have to explain it fucktard I want to see what other setups are doing because i know what my own does....next time i wont mention what mine does so people that feel the need to jump in other peoples shit and say proove it stay the fuck out.....
If i wanted to get E-thugged i would post on VW vortex......i didnt know u had to trade dyno graphs to see sum1 else's....mines already infront of me and again i could care less if any1 believe what my car makes.....
So do me a favor master of all dyno sheets.....dont talk in my thread if u came here to start shit.....the point of this thread can be whatever i want it to be hense it being MY THREAD
if you dont care what anyone thinks, why do you keep coming in here and defending it?
NissanOwnsU
09-13-2007, 07:14 PM
ummm its my thread why wouldnt I? plus theres the fact that my car is what it is and ive already pretty much proven that.....if the guy who tuned it on the dyno hops in and says im not bullshitting doesnt that pretty much cover it? i also invited anyone local to come check it out go for a ride and or look at my dyno sheet....
codyace
09-14-2007, 12:09 AM
Here's my dyno graph. Not "Baller" but plenty of whp for the street/autocross/drag strip. Twin-Scroll 3071R, Full-Race Twin-Scroll Manifold. 19PSI, pump gas, JWT S4 Cams, Apexi HG and stock bottom end. Dyno was a dynojet, that's the only thing I have near me other than shitty ass hub dyno's. (IMO).
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j15/StopTheExcuses/TopDynoRun.jpg
Ahhhh, thats what I like to see...but in our classic fashion, here is the other half of the ROM TUNE Warrrior / Powerband kid gang
http://www.e-rak.com/cody/albums/Dynos/uncorrected.jpg
20 psi, 2871r .64 S3 cams, greddy IM...and all the right jazz.
fliprayzin240sx
09-14-2007, 01:23 AM
Pretty damn impressive Codyace. Over 400whp on a GT2871R .64 trim. I always thought only the .86 trim guys can knock on the 400hp threshold since the trim difference is almost 50hp.
GSXRJJordan
09-14-2007, 05:11 AM
Why does no one know the difference between "uncorrected", "STD", and "SAE". I mean I'm happy that people are starting to get the whole "Numbers"Jet vs. Mustang/DynoDynamics/(insert scientific dyno here), but FUCK correction can make a 10% difference EASY.
Sportbike guys throw down crazy whp numbers all the time, which is why in the back of my GSXR1000 I keep a SAE-corrected dynosheet. That's about as standard as it gets.
It's my thread and I'll cry if I want to!...cry if I want to!...cry if I want to!
:wtc:
Phlip
09-14-2007, 11:04 AM
How many times do i have to explain it fucktard I want to see what other setups are doing because i know what my own does....next time i wont mention what mine does so people that feel the need to jump in other peoples shit and say proove it stay the fuck out.....
If i wanted to get E-thugged i would post on VW vortex......i didnt know u had to trade dyno graphs to see sum1 else's....mines already infront of me and again i could care less if any1 believe what my car makes.....
So do me a favor master of all dyno sheets.....dont talk in my thread if u came here to start shit.....the point of this thread can be whatever i want it to be hense it being MY THREAD
Funny thing, here...
You're so territorial about YOUR thread, yet you're being one of the least productive about the sharing of information in it.
I am advising that if you don't have anything constructive to add to "your thread" then you shut your trap and let the grown folks converse.
codyace
09-14-2007, 04:35 PM
Why does no one know the difference between "uncorrected", "STD", and "SAE". I mean I'm happy that people are starting to get the whole "Numbers"Jet vs. Mustang/DynoDynamics/(insert scientific dyno here), but FUCK correction can make a 10% difference EASY.
Sportbike guys throw down crazy whp numbers all the time, which is why in the back of my GSXR1000 I keep a SAE-corrected dynosheet. That's about as standard as it gets.
Ok, here are SAE numbers
http://www.e-rak.com/cody/albums/Dynos/ace240dyno.jpg
My run files are also available if you guys want :D
Search F/A for a previous post of mine where I listed every number for every correction factor on earth. All were near the same, with a difference of 5-10 hp at most.
FWIW: I'm less concerned with silly hp. More concered with my torque :D I am your LSx friend remember :D
GSXRJJordan
09-14-2007, 04:51 PM
^^^ Cody I know you're not a "whp queen". It is really strange that your uncorrected and SAE numbers are so similar though, must have made the run at basically STD conditions. I just think it's funny how "max whp" has the ability to change so many minds, in regard to which car/motor/build is better than another, when it matters so little.
To the OP, I know why you made the thread and I'm not bashin. I think it is cool to see other people's dyno graphs and build lists too.
SixSpeedSleuth
09-14-2007, 05:06 PM
Here are my SAE numbers as well. Very close to the uncorrected.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j15/StopTheExcuses/SAE.jpg
And yes, Cody Ace's setup is very, very sick for the street/strip/ect. Very usable powerband.
codyace
09-14-2007, 09:24 PM
I just think it's funny how "max whp" has the ability to change so many minds, in regard to which car/motor/build is better than another, when it matters so little.
It's sad though how that works. People look at these big mag cars making 500 whp...but fail to realize that their 'average' HP is probably like 310 (or not even!).
It's always VERY VERY satifying on track days being able to pull away from MUCH higher HP cars, simply because my car drives like a v8....instant fun anywhere above 3200/3500 rpm....but then again, I only run 14 lbs of boost on track, as even that is to much for street tires hehe.
To the OP, I know why you made the thread and I'm not bashin. I think it is cool to see other people's dyno graphs and build lists too.
Certainly! Knowledge is the key to success....see what works and see what the consensus is before going out on a limb. Only then, should one 'break the trend'.
sr20boostn20
09-14-2007, 11:58 PM
turbonetics gt-k 550, 491whp 363wtq,
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/3002/dscf1526ec3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
whereda40at
09-15-2007, 07:36 AM
i wanna see dyno sheets as well but with 2.35 strokers in the mix. i have searched but cant find much. my stoker is being built but i have a *cough*cough* hks 2530 .86 a/r. so i wana go big but wana see what numbers are being thrown down.
i got love for ya rj in 2 months ill be replacing my axles every other week. lol
codyace
09-15-2007, 09:12 AM
turbonetics gt-k 550, 491whp 363wtq,
Nice man! Glad you got it sorted out from that time I saw you at Island!
NissanOwnsU
09-15-2007, 11:26 AM
thanks for the people with kind words and thanks for the people responding to the actual question....other people who have a problem are the reason i rarely post on forums.....all they wanna do is sit online and E-thug because there life sucks they have a fat wife and to many kids or there car is just junk and they are out to get every1 else.....
sr20boostn20
09-15-2007, 08:16 PM
Nice man! Glad you got it sorted out from that time I saw you at Island!
hey man, whats up the new best is a 12.1 @122 soft launch, the next run i launched it hard and the clutch went, still waitin on the new one
ch1873857
09-15-2007, 11:09 PM
im not a SR guy, but i work for/with one. he made 466whp at 10psi (low boost) with his s14 SR. 90mm pistons, fully built, t04s turbo, power fc. no charts but i have a dyno video that has some. hes a member on here but doesnt really post, maybe this will make him chime in.. enjoy
joe's 466 at 10psi (http://www.1320motoring.com/videos/Joe's%20S15.wmv)
steve shadows
09-17-2007, 12:04 PM
Im not trying to be an asshole, im just a pretty experiened sr tuner and that doesnt sound like 10 psi.
sounds like 15 maybe.
What type of T04S was it.
what head gasket is he using for 90mm bore?
and btw fuck roller dynos.
Good for big numbers, but not for tuning imo
but look how much the ass is moving around back there.
rps13drift
09-17-2007, 12:48 PM
Im not trying to be an asshole, im just a pretty experiened sr tuner and that doesnt sound like 10 psi.
sounds like 15 maybe.
What type of T04S was it.
what head gasket is he using for 90mm bore?
and btw fuck roller dynos.
Good for big numbers, but not for tuning imo
but look how much the ass is moving around back there.
Haha! you cant slip false boost numbers past Mr.shadows!
johngriff
09-17-2007, 12:51 PM
Whats wrong with this setup.
Whats wrong with those tq numbers.
Ummm.... anyone want to buy a 90mm kit? ;)
I kid, I kid.
steve shadows
09-17-2007, 12:54 PM
Whats wrong with this setup.
Whats wrong with those tq numbers.
Ummm.... anyone want to buy a 90mm kit? ;)
I kid, I kid.
there's a lot wrong
Dyno Jet
10 psi of boost
the torque number looks right, but something is off maybe the SAE correction on the Torque/RPM which is HP kids.
Btw Not even Mazworx's has found a soultion to a metal hg that works with a true 90 mm bore set up on sr20det without having issues after some hard driving.
They are almost done with their prototype though. go on FA , i cant remeber the link.
johngriff
09-17-2007, 02:24 PM
DynoJet = Easy manipulation of roller weight, netting dyno queen HP numbers.
TQ doesn't lie.
I want the DynoDynamic/Mustang Dyno Challenge!
I'm not tripping on the headgasket thing.
steve shadows
09-17-2007, 02:43 PM
Im going to do that
im going to fine tune next weekend on 17 and 21 psi on a dynodynamics
then if I can find a dynojet to let me just do 2 runs Ill post a comparo
and hurt people's brains.
owe
ch1873857
09-17-2007, 11:03 PM
I do agree with the dynojet thing. Im just showing you guys what he has and whats his numbers were. we always rag on him because he brags about 466wheel at 10psi. Its a custom t04s from what he said. i did ask him about the headgasket. its a cometic, they do sell headgaskets for 90mm pistons, i checked. i do know that it was in fact 10psi. he never made it to high boost because he was running 1600cc injectors. why? no clue, he gave some retarded answer that i didnt understand. he knows his shit though. some say dynojet sucks for tuning but...then again...he has tuned plenty of cars on that dyno. like the t88 supra at ~800hp and a ~600hp supra we have sitting in the shop. i mean, his tunes are holding up. both still run and have 10+hrs on the dyno. but whatever, im not hear to argue because 1)they arent my cars and 2) im not joe. btw i have videos of those too...oh not to mention the turbo t-rex we did..
looking at the video for the 25th time. you can see in the last dyno segment that he has running 10psi because you can see the gauge. call bs if you want.
steve shadows
09-18-2007, 10:04 AM
tell your friend to check out the hg from mazworx he might be needing it.
ch1873857
09-18-2007, 07:34 PM
why, his is holding fine. and he beat the shit out of the car before he pulled the motor. he tuned that thing for like a week straight. the motor has been sitting on the shop floor for months, the turbo got stolen, so he's moving to a different setup. i'll probably fab him a twin scroll t4 manifold and go from there. i'll tell him to tune it on a real dyno though haha. i told him to get the stroker crank too, make it a true 2.35l
Brian W.
11-21-2007, 03:03 PM
i know this thread is old, but here is RJs dynograph....
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/RJdyno.jpg
and mine....
2871R .86 w/ stock exhaust manifold, 272 cams, pump gas, PFC djet.....
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/briandyno.jpg
ch1873857
11-21-2007, 04:23 PM
thats one hell of a dip at 5500 brian.. whats going on there? i didnt realize you revved that thing out to 8500 either. pretty nice.
nissan240sxkid
11-21-2007, 04:38 PM
Ahhhh, thats what I like to see...but in our classic fashion, here is the other half of the ROM TUNE Warrrior / Powerband kid gang
http://www.e-rak.com/cody/albums/Dynos/uncorrected.jpg
20 psi, 2871r .64 S3 cams, greddy IM...and all the right jazz.
very "baller" for a 2871r also my friend is going from 2871r to 3071 will let every one know from first hand if it was worth it other than for a bitt more power, I will open up thread if it dies to let you know
nissan240sxkid
11-21-2007, 04:43 PM
Im not trying to be an asshole, im just a pretty experiened sr tuner and that doesnt sound like 10 psi.
sounds like 15 maybe.
What type of T04S was it.
what head gasket is he using for 90mm bore?
and btw fuck roller dynos.
Good for big numbers, but not for tuning imo
but look how much the ass is moving around back there.
Mazworx is getting a 91mm head gasket in stock January for the 90 mm people, its what Im waiting on for myself. The gasket also fits mazworx 1/2 in head studs.
McRussellPants
11-21-2007, 05:21 PM
thats one hell of a dip at 5500 brian.. whats going on there? i didnt realize you revved that thing out to 8500 either. pretty nice.
Dip is the VTC wackyness.
Cant wait to get the .52 .64 2871 on my car. 2560 needs to gtfo.
ch1873857
11-22-2007, 12:30 AM
heh..makes sense..
usdm180sx
11-22-2007, 01:34 AM
Ahhhh, thats what I like to see...but in our classic fashion, here is the other half of the ROM TUNE Warrrior / Powerband kid gang
http://www.e-rak.com/cody/albums/Dynos/uncorrected.jpg
20 psi, 2871r .64 S3 cams, greddy IM...and all the right jazz.
Just wondering why you went with an extrude honed .64 instead of just going with the .86 out of the box.
codyace
11-22-2007, 11:04 AM
Dip is the VTC wackyness.
Cant wait to get the .52 .64 2871 on my car. 2560 needs to gtfo.
You will want to date your 56 trim 64 a/r 2871r mmm they are great pieces!
Just wondering why you went with an extrude honed .64 instead of just going with the .86 out of the box.
Extrude honing the turbo really doesn't take as much material away as you think. It simply just smooths it out (you'll see the rough casting bumps and the sort. I don't think you'd ever be able to extrude hone the extra material to even make it an .86. Again, their turbine process is very 'light'...just mainly a 'polish' job.
Oh....and I didn't want the 600-1000 rpm of extra lag that most .86 housings have :D
usdm180sx
11-22-2007, 11:23 AM
Gotcha. Thanks for the information!
LowNismo17
11-22-2007, 11:28 AM
I kinda call BS on 460whp at only 16 psi.. my 35R on 20 psi an pump made 492. That t3/to4E must be big SOB lol.. I am not talkin crap, numbers just seem high.. but good to see you are making power.
my set up is a .82 GT35R, S13 SR, 272 cams, AEM EMS etc.. now for a quick pic
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/LowNismo17/DSCI0580.jpg
McRussellPants
11-22-2007, 01:25 PM
Extrude honing the turbo really doesn't take as much material away as you think. It simply just smooths it out (you'll see the rough casting bumps and the sort. I don't think you'd ever be able to extrude hone the extra material to even make it an .86. Again, their turbine process is very 'light'...just mainly a 'polish' job.
Oh....and I didn't want the 600-1000 rpm of extra lag that most .86 housings have :D
How do they keep from honing the nozzle?
or does it just end up being like running a slightly clipped wheel or what?
codyace
11-22-2007, 04:05 PM
How do they keep from honing the nozzle?
or does it just end up being like running a slightly clipped wheel or what?
That's actually a very very close comparison (that is from the extrude hone to a clipped wheel) The hose does get down in and through the entire area, through the nossel area, but, being a lighter process than traditional extrude, it really doesn't get 'super hardcore' in that area. Again, it's job is to mainly remove casting bumps and 'inversed pits', but as it gets closet to the exit nozzel, it doesn't get 'as aggressive'. Again, the main part effects the majority of the inner scroll.
steve shadows
11-22-2007, 04:17 PM
I hate when people say baller
driftstyre
11-22-2007, 07:41 PM
Brian,
Is this the new windows based dynamics? We got the last AWD old model in Feb. 07, never seen or worked with the new software though.
i know this thread is old, but here is RJs dynograph....
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/RJdyno.jpg
and mine....
2871R .86 w/ stock exhaust manifold, 272 cams, pump gas, PFC djet.....
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/briandyno.jpg
Brian W.
11-23-2007, 12:47 PM
yeaahhhhhh buddy. Blue tooth hand controller, and windows software. its AMAZING!!
Brian W.
11-23-2007, 12:49 PM
Dip is the VTC wackyness.
Cant wait to get the .52 .64 2871 on my car. 2560 needs to gtfo.
i dont run VTC... the dip was acutally from the boost controller. we got it sorted out now.
and that motor revs to 9200 rpm. but it as you can see the power falls off so no sense in running that high on the dyno.
legend4life
11-27-2007, 07:58 PM
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j15/StopTheExcuses/NewDynoRun3071R.jpg
http://www.e-rak.com/cody/albums/Dynos/uncorrected.jpg
Very nice graph.....I was trying to compare between the 2871R .64 and the TS 3071 and find out which setup would give the most responsive 400whp.
Your comparison graph seems to indicate the TS 3071 is better throughout the powerband.
But compared to codyace's .64 2871 both your .64ar 2871 and your TS 3071 seem to be lacking in torque from 2500-5000rpm, your TS and codyace's 2871 about even from 5000-6500, and the TS beating the 2871 only after 6500. At some points in the low end and midrange the TS gives up as much as 30-50 ft lbs at the wheels to codyace's 2871. Could this be because of his improved extrude honed .64 housing?
Any thoughts on this comparison, and how the two setups should compare in low end, response, and fun to drive factor? Also just curious, why are you thinking of going to a 3076 setup?
codyace
11-28-2007, 11:01 AM
I think the extrude hone is to thank for the power I see above everyone elses setup. I just dynoed again the othre day for fun, and only 395 whp at 19 psi. Not to shabby for a psi less than last year huh? Ontop of that, I also am running a 4.6 ring and pinion now as well, which would have brought hp down a tad too. I guess rebuilding my engine was one of the best things I could have done haha (not that I had a choice lol)
My BIGGEST peeve with the dyno jet is lack of accurate spool and torque curve. Being that there is no realistic load on the car, my turbo spools considerable (like 400-500 rpm) after where it does on the street (I see 20 psi at rougly 3700/3800 rpm). Ask Steve Shadows about this same concern. I'd love to get my car on a Dyno Dynamics, to really see it in action. Numbers, while do say something, are of the least concern for me. I'm trying to achieve the most usable, flattest, most v8 like torque curve for my road course use. 430 hp is nice for the street, but the later spool and equal torque isn't fast on track. I get people coming over all the time (namely Z06 guys) asking me what I have in the car. 2.0 turbo, thats it :D)
With that said, my car certainly drives much faster than it should with the power. At 18 psi on street tires, first time ever drag racing I trapped 118 mph...which isn't bad at all on 245/40 Federal 595 (which are awesome HPDE tires). Obviously there was a little spin, but the car is a rocket.
ROUGE180
11-28-2007, 11:11 AM
I kinda call BS on 460whp at only 16 psi.. my 35R on 20 psi an pump made 492. That t3/to4E must be big SOB lol.. I am not talkin crap, numbers just seem high.. but good to see you are making power.
my set up is a .82 GT35R, S13 SR, 272 cams, AEM EMS etc.. now for a quick pic
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/LowNismo17/DSCI0580.jpg
Now thats what I call manly!!!! sweet.. nice bay work too
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