HELP - Coilover Suggestion

[AznDrftr.]

Okay, i'll be buying my first set of suspension as in Coilover set up anyway. There gonna be used, but this is what I found thus far.

Kei Office Coilovers

BreakDown:

4k miles
adjust ride height
spring preload
bound
rebound
camber with the upper camber plates

Cusco Comp-S Coilovers

BreakDown:

spring rate of 8kg/mm front, and 6kg/mm rear.
Height adjs only.
front/rear adjustable pillowball mounts
15000 milesI just want to know which would be the better one lol. Of course im lookin at the Kei Office ones more, but let me know please.

Or, if you have some for sale, let me know as well. Thanks.

[camry]

Get Stance GR+. It's about $1000

[AznDrftr.]

^Yea i want those, but i dont really have $1K just floating around.

S'why I was lookin at this because they are used and in my budget range atm.

[OptionZero]

there will be no support for the kei office coilovers because the company is out of business

[AznDrftr.]

there will be no support for the kei office coilovers because the company is out of business

Oh wow. thats why i never see them anymore. I didnt know that.

Thanks for that.

So in that case, does that mean not to get them?

[OptionZero]

save your money
buy new

[Revhard_s14]

Start collecting some cans.. Sell your little brother or sister..haha jk Just don't buy used coils. Do it right the first time.

[Tenchuu]

Oh wow. thats why i never see them anymore. I didnt know that.

Thanks for that.

So in that case, does that mean not to get them?

that means that (from what i have heard from people) no one will rebuild them and you must have to buy a new set when the one you have blows.

[Sonic Motor]

save your money
buy new

yup i agree..................

[AznDrftr.]

Okay, then I'll just buy some brand new ones then.

Does make sense in all aspects.

New = Warranty

[Bushido]

Powered by Max are legit. consider those as well.

[A Spec Products]

Haha yeah my friend in Japan said it best

He has Kei Office coilovers on his car

And said, when these blow, I buy something else

No service anymoreeeee

LOL

But in all honesty, a coilover failing is pretty slim, and usually due to negligence (making coilovers go beyond where they should be set at)

[AznDrftr.]

^Yea thanks. I want to get them because i've heard great things about them. But just for some odd slim-to-none chance, they blow, Im screwed.

[DP_Michelle G]

save your money
buy new

option said it best

you have 50/50 chance that they will blow within a year just save up a G get some theres a ton in that price range

[s13gold]

option said it best

you have 50/50 chance that they will blow within a year just save up a G get some theres a ton in that price range

couldnt have said it better....i couldve done it faster though; but i didnt.
LOL.:rawk:

[atom]

There needs to be a sticky.

Used parts that see a lot of wear like coilovers, clutches, brake rotors, clutch type lsd's, etc. = NO BUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[aznpoopy]

Okay, then I'll just buy some brand new ones then.

Does make sense in all aspects.

New = Warranty

nah its more like

rebuildable or replaceable shocks available
life span is probably more than a few months
collars/perch are not seized to all hell

[Sidewayzzz]

do you guys have a preference of either Ksports or Megan Racing Coilovers?

[Tenchuu]

**cough** get a hold of a spec for RSR's **cough**

[AznDrftr.]

do you guys have a preference of either Ksports or Megan Racing Coilovers?


I heard that Ksports were bad. Im gettin some MR Coils, only because I can get them pretty cheap shipped and they're new :bigok:

[Sidewayzzz]

Import, can you PM me who you got them from, if it was a dealer/something of that nature?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ksport-Coilovers-89-94-240SX-S13-90-91-92-93-FREE-SHIP_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33582QQihZ016QQite mZ260155578194QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Ksports 7kg/5kg

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MEGAN-RACING-FLEX-COILOVER-DAMPER-KIT-240SX-S13-89-94_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33582QQihZ001QQitemZ 110073388466QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V

MR 8kg/6kg

I haven't ran coilovers before, and I would probably not being purchasing them off ebay (unless others have had luck) but I would like to know if anyone ran these, preferably both, and which they liked better. (for drifting use)

[AznDrftr.]

The MR you have there are the street usage. Get the tracks, they have better spring rates 10kg/12kg.

[aznpoopy]

stiffer is not automatically better

especially given the questionable quality of the megan shock

i would personally avoid mr and k-sport

[AznDrftr.]

Hmm, and that would just personal reference right?

I mean, have you heard anything bad/good on any of them because im curious.

Its close to my budget atm.

[IES13]

For someone with a budget for coilovers - Powered by Max, Stance GR+, or KTS coilovers are good.

[AznDrftr.]

^Alright cool, thanks a lot.

[spool_sample]

Another +1 for Stance. The "base" model Stance is in the same price range as KSport or Megan, and probably better if you consider the quality of the other Stance kits.

[ayuaddict]

+1 for KTS as well. (not to be mixed up with k-sport)

[Sidewayzzz]

I was under the impression that base model stance = 1200$ before shipping. KTS are pretty damn expensive too, but Power By Max is something i'm taking into considering too, with them being in SD (which isn't too far) and 1050$ shipped.

Could you guys throw me a couple reasons why you don't like Ksport / MR ?
I dunno if its been proven or if its bullshit or anything, but I was under the impression MR are rebadged D2's? (or was it Ksports? lol) Either way, if you've had a bad experience please let me know, cause I've riden in a car with Ksports and I didn't personally think it was bad (slid pretty damn well) but never MR. Then again, I have heard good thinks about both, but never any examples of bad things.

Thanks guys.

[Z33dori]

Stance are worth saving and from the reviews so are Powered by max.


i have ksport and comparing them to the Stance GR+ I drove on, my Ksports are bit more bouncy but i guess u cant get the same quality for 400 less. So far i have zero complaints of my ksports. unlike most of the ppl who just say " i heard ksports are bad" i just said fuck it and bought em and i like em. again yes not as great as Stance but for the money u cant complain. I picked them up off of Elementmotorsports for 720shipped.(there on here).


and yes fuck yall i have already been beating the piss out of them and nothing yet so...:fawkd:

[Z33dori]

I was under the impression that base model stance = 1200$ before shipping. KTS are pretty damn expensive too, but Power By Max is something i'm taking into considering too, with them being in SD (which isn't too far) and 1050$ shipped.

Could you guys throw me a couple reasons why you don't like Ksport / MR ?
I dunno if its been proven or if its bullshit or anything, but I was under the impression MR are rebadged D2's? (or was it Ksports? lol) Either way, if you've had a bad experience please let me know, cause I've riden in a car with Ksports and I didn't personally think it was bad (slid pretty damn well) but never MR. Then again, I have heard good thinks about both, but never any examples of bad things.

Thanks guys.

Stance basics are like 900

GR are like 1100


yea most of the bad stuff is all by word of and not First hand. I have crap about megans and about ksports, but very few ppl actually saying it was them.

[Sidewayzzz]

I'm buying the MR tomorrow, unless you can link me to some Stance Basics for 900$ cause I haven't seen those anywhere....

It doesn't matter really though, I'm just getting - repped by elitist fags telling me to search, cause i'm beating a dead horse, and clearly I was asking for opinions. So fuck whoever negative repped me and thanks for your help Z33.

[2iv0 sx]

Have you tried the vendors in the Advertiser Specials and Sales here @ www.zilvia.net?

[AznDrftr.]

I think im goign to be get MR's as well though. Im just gonna give them a shot, a friend told me they were actually decent sooo... we'll see.

[Z33dori]

I'm buying the MR tomorrow, unless you can link me to some Stance Basics for 900$ cause I haven't seen those anywhere....

It doesn't matter really though, I'm just getting - repped by elitist fags telling me to search, cause i'm beating a dead horse, and clearly I was asking for opinions. So fuck whoever negative repped me and thanks for your help Z33.

oaky i found 939 at 240sx Motorinf for both S14 and s13
http://240sxmotoring.com/stbaconi24s1.html

and

929 at Enjuku Racing
http://www.enjukuracing.com/

[AznDrftr.]

Are the basics still okay compared to the GR+?

[Sidewayzzz]

Now I feel like a retard, but you sir are the man. Thanks much.

[Z33dori]

I think im goign to be get MR's as well though. Im just gonna give them a shot, a friend told me they were actually decent sooo... we'll see.

better off paying the 100 extra for the Stance then those.....

[Z33dori]

Are the basics still okay compared to the GR+?

not much


STANCE GR Basic Coilovers for your Nissan 240sx. The STANCE GR Basic coilovers offer many of the same features found on GR+, just designed to be slightly more affordable.

The GR Basics utilize the same inverted monotube front shock design as the GR+, just with a smaller shock diameter. Also, instead of solid pillow-ball upper mounts, the GR Basics use a rubber bushing coupled with 8k front and 6k rear springs rates.

The GR Basic still provide adjustable front camber and 15-way adjustable damping allowing the driver to tune the shocks for any conditions and handling characteristics.

This is a great option for the budget minded coilover enthusiast.

[AznDrftr.]

LOL. You sound like a sales person.

Hmm, perhaps it would be the same, but would you rather have a little bit more leadway on adjustability?

For instance:

Megan Racing Track - 12kg/10kg, 32way

Stance Basic - 8kg/6kg, 15 way

Perhaps you may be looking at structure of how the product was assembled, but I may be wrong.

Also, it can be your user preference, but I rather have more options.

[Z33dori]

megan track will suck for daily driving.....i can tell u that much... really fuking stiff. u really dont need that much adj for dampening, trust me i barely even adjusted mine when i got them, just stiffened them 2 click once i slammed it.

yea i know i sound like a salesman, which is funny casue i bought the ksports my self over the Stance but i had to find out why every one says they are so shitty for my self. being it was 2nd words. but the same can be said for the megans tho.

but bottom line its ur money + ur car = ur choice

[AznDrftr.]

^Understand and I respect every aspect of what you said and takin into consideration.

After all, you wont know til you find out right?

Thanks.

[Z33dori]

pretty much.....but in truth it doesnt matter what company u pick they all run the risk of blowing. its a piece of machinery they are meant to work and break and be fixed, some just last longer than others. all it takes is a nasty dip or a pot whole.

[MrChow]

OKay IMO I've driven Megan Tracks. The valving on them SUCK!
My friend that as silkroads with the same springs and it feels a lot better.
Also more adjustability isn't always better.

[azndoc]

I think the OP is pretty set on getting the Megan Tracks. DD in it sucks by the way.

I don't think anyone is going to sway him in his decision.

Even if everyone is telling you what's best for you.

Megans are good bang for your buck.

But if your spending that much already why not just shell out a little more for something way better and everyone agrees on that is well worth the money.

Why ask for opinions if your just going to shoot people down that are just looking out for you and giving you good advice.

Whatever dude its your money spend it however you want. To each's own.

[AceInHole]

I feel like a broken record.

I'd still like to see evidence that the "valving" on any of those shocks is any different. The dyno plots show the same curves on slightly different scales. With that in mind and from what I've heard, I'm betting Megan Tracks are the same shock with N2 pressure at the shock limit. It leads me to believe that they're all basically the same shock with varying gas pressure to adjust base damping.

[aznpoopy]

i have sat in k-sports and they suck.
i have not sat in megans but i've seen the 'quality' on their other products. their coilovers could be gold plated... i still wouldn't support a company like that.

all it takes is a nasty dip or a pot whole.

while teaching my friend to drive stick, we ran over a curb with silkroads set on full stiff. didn't blow. still driving on them about 1.5 years later. on the other hand, my poor k-sport buddy had his set blow on him after 8 months of dd in jersey without hitting anything. last i saw him he was tucking 16's in the rear.

Also more adjustability isn't always better.

yes... and going beyond that, the number of clicks is bullshit. what we should be looking for is linear adjustment, repeatability, range and scale.

[DP_Michelle G]

+1 for BC'S

there inverted model i think is 1000
and the mono tube's are 900

you can get them from revspec there a vendor on here

[Gjohnson7]

Wouldn't the tein basics fall in this categorie too??

[Z33dori]

Wouldn't the tein basics fall in this categorie too??

garbage:bigok:

[haggards13]

Just keep saving and buy quality stuff. I'm not talking break the bank stuff either. I just ordered my Stance Pro's and can't wait. Why buy half ass shit?

[hung12848]

Will If you need Stance Gr+ Pro i can hook you up 1180 shipped no tax BRAND NEW!! (the one with helper spring)

Do you drift alot or Touge?? because Stance good for both set-up also recommand for Daily. If you looking for Daily then go with Tein Flex.

[haggards13]

Had I known that I'd've probably talked to you, but C2auto gave me a pretty good price on 'em.
Track slut only. Drifting.

[ZX88]

dont buy used.

[nemo6686]

Has anyone try Badger Werks Coilovers. I just got set for my s13 they ride great. I got them from xat racing. They were only $795 for the set. They use them on their drift car. They said shock dyno'ed to be the best of the sub $1500 coilovers

[SMOCAN]

i've had megan streets awhile now, i found a great deal on them, and i have no complaints. i know alot of other people with them around here also, with over 1-2 years with them on, and no problems with any of them, and thats with abuse. If your going to drive daily, it would not be wise to buy the tracks, it will be extremely harsh. But i mean i'm no track whore/pro drifter so the streets suit me quite well. alot of hesitation for people to trust megan since alot of their earlier products suck. I've driven on stance, kts, and buddyclub... not even going to mention ksport, crap. and honestly, its hard to compare when theres adjustable dampening and diff spring rates, with adjustments, you can make them feel pretty close... but as in durability, i dont know anyone with problems thus far. If your really worried about quality, get stance because people on here are in love with them and if something goes wrong, you can blame 95% of this forum, haha. your money and good luck, let us know how everything goes.

[SMOCAN]

oh yea to your original post... listen to the majority and dont buy used coilovers

[D1GP]

rocking stance gr+ pro. they handle well but are really bouncy which makes them suck for dd imo. i would suggest kts if you want to spend a bit more then your initial budget.

[McRussellPants]

ugh.

KTS is the same thing as Stance.


get K-sport, they'll blow, you won't even notice.

get KTS/Stance, they'll work, you won't even notice.

get DG-5/Zeal/Aragosta they'll rock, you won't even notice since they'll be setup wrong.


it doesn't matter, get something with an 8/6 spring and valving that keeps it from being "bouncy" so your car transfers faster. Then when you think they suck get something better.

[AznDrftr.]

^Hmm perhaps. But im fully aware not to get used coils lol.

[C. Senor]

listen to mcrusselpants, he's pretty dead on. i dont know about the guy that said stance was bouncy....i think he may have too much pre-load. search around to see the different things each coilover has to offer and see how you like it. search for reviews, there's a billion of them out there. i personally use stance. my car is dd. ride is great, not bouncy just stiff. handles well. i still have a few things left in suspension work to get the most out of them. but they are great. they are my first coilovers and i love them. having ridden in a few other types very competitive, one of the best bang for your buck coilover system on the market today. i mean you can get the megans. 600 bucks use them for a while. realize they suck change them out. try out stance or kts basically same thing(basically) veyr good. last you for a bit so you can learn the car and learn how to push it, still being very driveable on the street.

ok so i went back and read the first page. MR is ok to deal with if you just want to go low but i wouldnt recommend them for track. they'll work but not great...or even good. (hahaha joke search for a thread about their ruca's and you'll see why it is that most of us say what we do about MR) seriously i would wait and save. i was going to go the MR route myself. did some research and came to the conclusion i would not be happy and wouldnt get what i wanted out of them. so i waited another 4 months to save enough money to buy them. and i am very pleased with them and am glad i waited for them.

[EDacIouSX]

I'd rate the kei office as a little bit better than stance gr+ pro. I've ridden in my friends s14, he has 9kg/8kg kei office and they are, i'd say, a bit more comfortable than my stance gr+ pro at 9/7. though I'm not sure, It's been a while since i've ridden passenger in my car so I can't quite compare.

But one thing's for sure, they are damn close.






I vote kei office.

[randyjordan]

part shop max coilovers

done.

[charmersfh]

silk roads..