View Full Version : Rob Zombie's Holloween
exitspeed
08-29-2007, 09:21 AM
Man I can't wait to see this movie.
When I heard Rob Zombie was doing the movie i was pissed. House of 100 Corpses is one of the two movies I've ever seen in theaters that i actually considered walking out of because I felt like I was getting dumber.
HOWEVER, after seeing the trailer I got super happy pants! His mask and being able to see his eyes more looks fuckin freaky :bigok: !
Anyone gonna go see it tomorrow?
http://brightcove.vo.llnwd.net/d3/unsecured/media/212357877/212357877_746307373_f4bddc335b609727216fd339a239a8 902e75e3ce.jpg
JDMS1lv1a
08-29-2007, 09:30 AM
HELL YES!!! this could possibly be scarier than the original:eek3:
slideways7
08-29-2007, 10:57 AM
I thought by far that when they were gonna remake another one that it would go off the scene of him with the melted mask after the last movie.. idk maybe this shows part of that i havent seen a trailer soo.. hopefully its good cause im goin to it..
exitspeed
08-29-2007, 11:54 AM
The mask was never a "melted mask" it was actually a mask of William Shatner painted white.
They can't do without the mask though. It's what makes him so damn scary. The trailer shows him with the mask on numerous times.
s13gold
08-29-2007, 12:56 PM
im down to spend my hard earned cash on this.
JDMS1lv1a
08-29-2007, 01:12 PM
there was somthing about the original that was so damn scary like the last scene when he was going after laurie strode and he found her in the closet (lights flickering/heavy breathing),broke door.... one of the scariest scenes IMO.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd129/JDMS1lv1a/halloween2.gif
ZenkitonS14
08-29-2007, 02:43 PM
Ill be seeing this and Balls of Fury this weekend for sure =)
HWYKING
08-29-2007, 02:54 PM
def gonna go see it, i just hope zombie didnt kill it. his 1000 corpses and hells rejects sucked. from what ive read it covers everything from when he was a child to the mental hospital.
JDMS1lv1a
08-29-2007, 03:03 PM
^^ yea the first half of the movie is like the prequal,then the rest of the movie will be pretty much the remake of the OG version
i agree 1000 corpses wasnt that great
exitspeed
08-29-2007, 03:05 PM
def gonna go see it, i just hope zombie didnt kill it. his 1000 corpses and hells rejects sucked. from what ive read it covers everything from when he was a child to the mental hospital.
I'm in the same boat.
But the premise and the story revolving around him more sounds intriguing.
HWYKING
08-29-2007, 03:08 PM
I'm in the same boat.
But the premise and the story revolving around him more sounds intriguing.
yea same here, only thing im not diggin too much is the mask. the way its old and worn. i like the original mask and how his eyes were barely seen, i hope they still have shots in the movie where its dark in the background and then all of a sudden you see the white mask appearing. thats what sold it for me. :rawk:
JDMS1lv1a
08-29-2007, 03:14 PM
^^^same here,idk,the new mask looks pretty scary from what I saw in the previews. nothing beats this pic though.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd129/JDMS1lv1a/h1lookdn-1.jpg
exitspeed
08-29-2007, 03:18 PM
^
Pic don't work.
I actually like the new mask better. The old one was too clean. I don't know how the new one would have gotten so old and dirty looking but it sure looks scarier IMO. The fact that you CAN see his eyes is more eerie to me. It's like your looking into the eyes of a complete psycho. Not a good feeling. :)
JDMS1lv1a
08-29-2007, 03:19 PM
^^^ fixed it
sleepy_s13
08-29-2007, 04:09 PM
cant wait till it comes out. It looks really good.
SiI40sx
08-29-2007, 04:16 PM
As long as it isnt a retarded "omg its super quiet something is about to happen!" type movie then I guess Ill watch it. All scary movies are the same annoying shit. Its dark, it gets super quiet, then they play a werid ass non realistic loud ass sound to scare you, but for what? to think your scared of what just happened? Probably because what just really happened was retarded crap and it fools you to think you got scared by it but which in fact the only thing that made you jump was that annoying ass sound.
jackjack
08-29-2007, 04:22 PM
When I heard Rob Zombie was doing the movie i was pissed. House of 100 Corpses is one of the two movies I've ever seen in theaters that i actually considered walking out of because I felt like I was getting dumber.
http://brightcove.vo.llnwd.net/d3/unsecured/media/212357877/212357877_746307373_f4bddc335b609727216fd339a239a8 902e75e3ce.jpg
+1. i'm not sure if i should go see it or not. hopefully it dosent suck.:hsdance:
ALTRNTV
08-29-2007, 04:42 PM
I saw it already last night online (even though it's not out yet). :)
azndoc
08-29-2007, 04:43 PM
Fuck I know that my girl is going to want to see this now.
Damn it.
HWYKING
08-29-2007, 06:12 PM
^^^same here,idk,the new mask looks pretty scary from what I saw in the previews. nothing beats this pic though.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd129/JDMS1lv1a/h1lookdn-1.jpg
thats how he supposed to look. true his mask shouldnt be clean, but the new mask makes him look like a zombie, or as if he was in a grave and the soil was eating up the mask. he stole the mask from the pharmacy brand new in part 1 remember? i just hope my girl doesnt get too scared and we have to walk out. she couldnt handle saw 3. it was too gorey, but this time ill chain her down if i have to!:hsdance:
Edgar
08-29-2007, 06:15 PM
I think me and my girl are going to watch it tomorrow, its going to be sweet!
slideways7
08-29-2007, 08:09 PM
what i was saying.. in the last one Ressurection or w/e didnt he get roasted or something?? or is this just a remake of the first one??
DRavenS13
08-29-2007, 08:13 PM
I like the old mask better. That blank, emotionless stare is a lot more scary to me than anything bloody or gory....
Helghast
08-29-2007, 08:40 PM
Halloween WORKPRINT XViD-mVs
butttttt I'd rather watch it in theaters.
THOOOOOOO
this one has the original ending that Rob Zombie has planned.
DisEpyon
08-29-2007, 09:00 PM
I agree with the others on the mask, the old one seems to be a bit more scary, I like how the area of the eyes is black and dark to where you cant really see his eyes. but i like the new mask on how its old looking, could be a bit more whiter or maybe its just the lighting in the pic. IMO, but i think this will be a good remake, lets hope.
Edit: OK NEVERMIND LOOKS LIKE THEY DID A GOOD JOB AND LOOKS REALLY SCARY!!
behind a scene vid. maybe some already seen it or not
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XKS9AJzNEbs
Synicals13
08-29-2007, 11:40 PM
from that behinds the scene trailer, it reminds me of a subarban chain saw massacre, minus the chainsaw of course, and not fat.
bamaboy
08-30-2007, 08:50 AM
anyone else notice that Rob Zombie looks awful normal for a change. I think the movie looks great and it should be a fresh change from the old franchise.
s13silvia03
08-30-2007, 09:59 AM
I'm definitely gonna check it out, huge fan of the original
ManoNegra
08-30-2007, 11:18 AM
anyone else notice that Rob Zombie looks awful normal for a change. I think the movie looks great and it should be a fresh change from the old franchise.
Yeah, weird to see him without dreads. Resembles more Wille Nelson than the supernatural transient/vampire he used to.
ixfxi
08-30-2007, 12:30 PM
i dont really want to see a re-make.
the original movie was the best, and i cant really swallow seeing something that sucks.
exitspeed
08-30-2007, 12:40 PM
i dont really want to see a re-make.
the original movie was the best, and i cant really swallow seeing something that sucks.
Some remakes are OK. I can't think of one off the top of my head, but...:-/
I guess I just don't mind them.
Oh wait. Dawn of the Dead remake was ok. Not better, but OK. Although the OG one is one of my favorite movies.
ManoNegra
08-30-2007, 01:06 PM
Friend saw it and he wasn't encouraging.
JDMS1lv1a
08-30-2007, 01:08 PM
sequals are ok and sometimes really good. Like Halloween II was a good sequal cause they started where they left off (part1).Part 1 and 2 were the best. The rest of the sequals just made him less and less scary cause they tried to continue the story and there wasnt much else to go on about etc IMO
H-20 wasnt scary at all,and Resurrection was just funny:keke:
overall,I think this will be a bad ass remake even tho I hate remakes
ixfxi
08-30-2007, 01:39 PM
John Carpenter
Moustapha Akkad
Donald Pleasence
Jamie Lee Curtis
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This movie has NONE of that. Why should it be good? How could it be good?
Personally, I just dont think it can be. I mean, I love horror flicks.. ESPECIALLY Halloween/Friday 13th/Nightmare on Elm St.
But what made these movies good, is that they were raw when they were new, and had good chemistry. The remakes that were created later, again and again and again.. well, I didnt hate them, but its a fact.. they got worse and worse and WORSE. Friday the 13th - Jason X, it wasnt horrible. Actually, the first half of the movie was pretty fucking awesome. But it really started to go downhill when he became UBER JASON, that shit was pathetic. When he got his ass kicked by the android.. UGH. The only time the end scene was cool, was when he went into that room where he killed the girls in the sleeping bag, that shit was hardcore.
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Same for the halloween movies, the latter ones really started to suck it up. I laughed a bit, sure.. but man.. without Donald Pleasance and Jamie Lee, its just not the same. The opening scene to Resurrection when Michael and Jamie go at it, was awesome.. but they kill her off, and thats that. Lets not mention busta rhymes, right? ha
I'll probably end up watching it, just for fun.. but god it'll probably suck.
ixfxi
09-04-2007, 02:27 PM
cant believe i am the one re-bumping the thead.
i saw the movie this weekend, not bad.. not bad at all.
not great, of course.. because it just CANT be great. the original is great, hence the reason its the original, and hence the reason its being REMADE.
rob zombie did a good job changing the direction of the film. originally part I was geared toward chasing Laurie Strode around.. and while that did happen, the majority of the movie was about michael meyers and his life. comedy.
watching a fat young boy kill people was eh, interesting. reminded me of the older halloweens with the little girl (who also stars in this movie, btw).
anyway, fun stuff. i'de say the only thing missing from this movie was the slow pacing and michael creeping in the background, but i think society is too stupid to appreciate that type of scary movie anyway. people nowadays dont have imagination. nice job though on how rob zombie didnt over-gore it. i thought it would be pretty violent.
exitspeed
09-04-2007, 02:33 PM
^
Good to hear coming from you since you seemed really http://www.yojoe.com/action/83/83card/gungho.jpg about how bad it was gonna suck.
I wanted to see it this weekend, but didn't get a chance. I think I'll go see it this week sometime.
Jefferson
09-04-2007, 06:48 PM
It wasnt that bad but it was in no way comparable to the first two those are straight up classics.
I thought rob zombie was going to mess it up with his dirty gory style but suprisingly enough he did a pretty decent job
ManoNegra
09-04-2007, 07:14 PM
Saw it over the break. In it of itself it's not a bad movie. It's not great by any means but it's entertaining and well done. Hardcore horror fans of the original may have an issue with it though.
Edgar
09-04-2007, 07:19 PM
I'll b e very honest. I think that Rob Zombie of course didn't want to overdue it but I think that the original million movies are about the same as this one.
The movie was good, but nothing too awesome!
Yea, take a girl to the movies and watch this. You might get some holding action.
240love
09-04-2007, 09:49 PM
i saw it...pretty crazy..lots of blood.. my friend somehow got a copy of it ..like dvd
bimmerlover
09-04-2007, 09:56 PM
I like the old mask better. That blank, emotionless stare is a lot more scary to me than anything bloody or gory....
+10000000
oh and +1 for william shatner's face
240love
09-04-2007, 11:05 PM
for those of you who saw it...did anyone notice the s13 in it lol
DisEpyon
09-04-2007, 11:28 PM
/\ Really? what color is it and how far into the movie is it? is it just a short glimps of it or really noticeable?
Im planning on seeing it this weekend. hehe
Glad to hear good replys about this movie... makes me want to see it even more.
s13silvia03
09-04-2007, 11:36 PM
It's not too far into the movie, pulls up outside of the house and is shown for a few seconds...IIRC it's a red hatch.
liv2drift045
09-05-2007, 07:13 AM
i liked it... agree that i cant be compared to the original... but i was impressed...didnt suck at all
i liked how they made it about him pretty good movie
ixfxi
09-05-2007, 12:10 PM
one thing i didnt like is how he was a fat kid.. who turned into a really, really big behomoth of a man. i mean come on, we ALL know that michael meyers isnt strong because of his size, hes strong because hes the mothafucking MAN. He's the SHAPE. That alone should be reason enough for him to kick some serious ass.
I mean, in the original movies.. he got stronger and what not, but he was never massive. in this one, he's just large. i'm talking jason vorhees #8 large. he was a really big dude.
but whatever, besides that.. like i said, its entertaining. nothing great, but ide watch it again with a pack of friends.. for sure.
redZENKI
09-05-2007, 12:26 PM
Sucked, but it had plenty of titties that made up for it.
s13silvia03
09-05-2007, 01:32 PM
He was huge as hell in the move...fuckin' Sabertooth
240love
09-05-2007, 04:57 PM
He was huge as hell in the move...fuckin' Sabertooth
lol he is the guy that played sabertooth in xman ...o and did you guys notice that michael was a huge cock blocker lol
exitspeed
09-06-2007, 08:56 AM
I went and saw the movie last night. Full review below.
First I'd like to say that other then zombie movies, the original Halloween is THE only horror movie I own. Micheal Meyers is my wifes favorite (or least favorite depending how you look at it) slasher of them all. When I heard Rob Zombie was remaking Halloween, I wasn't thrilled. His movie House of 1000 Corpses is one of the only movies I've even contemplated walking out of halfway though after paying the hefty price of admission.
That being said, Rob Zombie did a fantastic job of modernizing this great classic. What makes this movie stand out from the original film is the back story on Michael Meyers himself, his diabolical origin. Rob's version revolves around the man himself, more then Lori Strode and further develops the psychopathic character. You actually get to see him go from just a troubled kid, to an absolute maniac. This has all been crafted quit well. Everything is believable and isn't a long winded back story like The Hulk, for instance. The relationship between Dr. Loomis and Michael is also further expanded on, which entwines the two characters better then ever before. There is also a very good explanation to the beat up old mask in this version vs the clean new mask of the original.
After the origin portion of the film, the story picks up right where the original starts. Lori Strode and her promiscuous high school friends make plans to go have sex and Lori is stuck baby sitting to cover. What I found great (though kind of annoying) is they use almost the same dialog as the original movie which is a nice nod. Like totally.
Until the climax the remake is the typical affair of Micheal wondering around Haddenfield, IL, killing teen couples in town while their having sex and killing teens and exposing their breasts while doing so. No complaints here. :)
Who he's really after though is his baby sister who's life he spared after slaughtering his older sister, her boyfriend, and his stripper moms POS boyfriend. The chase between the two was the most Rob Zombie-ish part of the movie IMO. Basically Michael chasing Lori and Lori either being locked up in a small room or being chased into tight corners where she seems "trapped" and she's doomed. It reminded me a bit of House of 1000 Corpses somewhat but executed better.
I won't get into the ending and who dies, and who lives, if there's gonna be a sequel of if there isn't. All in all though, as hard as it is to believe I actually think this movie is as good or better then the original. In many ways it is. Unless you have a mindset that "nothing can be better then the the original", you'll probably agree.
Mel gives the movie 4 out of 5 Zombie Heads:
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LeftNutOfGowd
12-19-2008, 11:52 AM
Looks like his making a part 2 i cant fucking wait Micheal is my favorite horror film character...
http://www.impawards.com/2009/posters/h_two.jpg
http://www.impawards.com/2009/h_two.html
http://www.darkhorizons.com/news08/081219m.php
LeftNutOfGowd
04-27-2009, 08:04 AM
F"N AWESOME I JUST SAW THE TRAILER AND IT LOOKS EVEN BETTER THEN THE FIRST ONE
See new and upcoming movie trailers, videos, and clips from Yahoo! Movies (http://movies.yahoo.com/premieres/13140373/standardformat/)
exitspeed
04-27-2009, 09:38 AM
Woot two days before my birfday! Looks bad ass.
LeftNutOfGowd
07-30-2009, 07:53 AM
Cant wait only a couple more weeks to go
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/maddd0ggz/hr_Halloween_2_5.jpg
exitspeed
07-30-2009, 08:12 AM
Oh shit I forgot this was coming out so soon. I haven't see or heard shit about it lately. I figured they would start showing trailers on TV by now.
ixfxi
07-30-2009, 09:18 AM
mike mike mike.......... what have they done with him
such a shame, the halloween franchise is so dated. i love mr myers, but they sure have fucked with him too much... busta rhymes included. remaking parts 1-2, ugh...
and now theyre remaking freddy.............. please.............. stop.
LeftNutOfGowd
08-21-2009, 09:54 AM
ONE MORE WEEK CANT FUCKING WAIT OMG OMG OMG OMG I CANT WAIT
Also here's a new trailer with some film footage
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adam s
08-21-2009, 10:00 AM
Fuck shit like this I'm a motherfucking pussy.
And the worst part is this is the shit my girl always wants to see.
God damnit...
theronin
08-21-2009, 07:20 PM
watched the first the other night. i enjoyed it. was interesting to watch as he changed from a semi normal kid, into Micheal Meyers. id give it 3.5 outta 5. worth a watch if you like horror movies imo.
ixfxi
08-21-2009, 08:07 PM
Fuck shit like this I'm a motherfucking pussy.
And the worst part is this is the shit my girl always wants to see.
God damnit...
damn........ you got yourself a freak of a woman, brah.
my woman hates horror movies, though ive talked her into seeing every halloween and friday 13th films
LeftNutOfGowd
08-28-2009, 06:24 AM
Todays the day that Michael returns home OMG I cant wait I'm buying my tickets as we speak on fandango OMG I cant wait
exitspeed
08-28-2009, 01:17 PM
Ouuuch. IGN ripped the movie apart more then Michael's cleaver.
IGN: Halloween II (2009) Review (http://movies.ign.com/articles/101/1018876p1.html)
They gave it a HALF star out of 5.
BustedS13
08-28-2009, 01:28 PM
Halloween II Movie Reviews, Pictures - Rotten Tomatoes (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/h2_halloween_2/)
25% on RT right now.
and WHY did this come out in august?
ESmorz
08-28-2009, 01:45 PM
Halloween II Movie Reviews, Pictures - Rotten Tomatoes (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/h2_halloween_2/)
25% on RT right now.
and WHY did this come out in august?
Maybe because everything Rob Zombie touches is just steaming pile of shit.
exitspeed
08-28-2009, 01:48 PM
Maybe because everything Rob Zombie touches is just steaming pile of shit.
I liked the first one actually. :ugh:
I hated 100 Corpses and his other one.
BustedS13
08-28-2009, 01:56 PM
Maybe because everything Rob Zombie touches is just steaming pile of shit.
well, uh. i did hate house of 1000 corpses and devil's rejects, even though they should have been right up my alley. Halloween was alright. and i mean... maybe sometimes i like to turn up Superbeast and weave through highway traffic. but uh...
yeah it probably sucks.
ronmcdon
08-28-2009, 03:31 PM
I actually enjoyed devil's rejects, and to lesser extent house of 1000 corpses.
Was much more graphically brutal and had more gore.
reminded me of old Tobe Hooper films almost.
It's not a great film by any means,
but it is a step above your run-of-the-mill, predictable slasher remake.
Halloween was imo Zombie's most boring film to date
entertaining to watch the fat kid run around in the first half, but that's about it.
lacks any sense of interesting violence & is too formulaic.
should have at least had a good fight scene between danny trejo/ken foree & mike myers
I agree with what has been said by some members here.
the franchise has been dead, and should be left alone.
Zombie actually isn't that bad of a director.
the shots are fun, even if they're borrowed a lot from older b-horror & sci-fi flicks.
characters in his movies are at least plausibly despicable (save for boring adult mike myers).
its more than i can say for most other hollywood horror flick remakes.
g-via
08-31-2009, 12:49 PM
saw this movie last night.
it's got the old-school feel to it, lots of kills and a few good ones that aren't just stabbing or choking.
few things I didn't like:
-the ripping of the mask was ghey
-slo-mo effect at the end was horrible and choppy, looked like it was a streaming video
-some scenes had gay music (sheriff in washroom after micheal comes for angel)
Favourite parts *SPOILERS*
-beheading of the cop in the the beginning
-at the end when angel stabs him a shitload, and then she comes out WITH THE MASK ON. I am looking for a nice pic of that still.
-titties! rob zombie loves putting titties in his movies
ixfxi
08-31-2009, 01:42 PM
10 dollars hm........... what to do with it
donate it to the rob zombie fund or to my s13 fund
yeah... hard choice
g-via
08-31-2009, 02:01 PM
IMO
it wasn't worth watching it in theatres...
some of the killing scenes were so fast, it was just random looking on the big screen. The stabbing scenes have lots of emotion in them tho...pure fucking anger. It was awesome
DisEpyon
08-31-2009, 09:18 PM
I havent seen it and most likely not going to after all the reviews i read were nothing but negative, ill just wait until it comes on tv.
this one review was a good one.
HALLOWEEN 2 Review | GeekTyrant (http://geektyrant.com/2009/08/halloween-2-review/)
read the comments of RealitycheckMCO, pretty interesting and believable what he says about rob zombie not wanting to do a second h2.
coppyed and pasted his comments for the lazy ones:
I posted my review last night.. If anyone might be interested:
It was widely reported that Rob Zombie had no interest whatsoever in making Halloween 2.
It shows.
Yes, Mr. Zombie didn't want to do it. But he did it. Some sources claim that Dimension Films was going to go forth with their reboot of the franchise with or without Zombie's participation, so in the name of continuity and artistic integrity, Zombie caved and decided to complete his "extreme vision" of the Michael Myers saga.
As evidenced by the film I just saw, it's painfully apparent that they threw a shitload of money at him and he ran with the paycheck - artistic and franchise integrity be damned.
I am a Halloween purist. John Carpenter's iconic 1978 film is my all-time favorite in the genre. There is a "Hitchcockian" quality about that film that has rarely been surpassed. It is a stylish example of just how frightening a film can be with the right score, the right cast and the notion that what truly frightens is what you don't see - rather than what you do see in gruesome and gory detail. Halloween is a film that holds an audience in the throes of suspense - with a bare minimum of blood and gore.
Halloween is widely considered the granddaddy of the slasher genre. It was the film that launched a thousand maniacs - some that succeeded not on imitation, but in their ability to reinvent the wheel. However, in the face of new franchises, new masked and/or burned and deformed psychos, Halloween stood alone. In 1981, Halloween fell victim to it's own trap. It was inevitable there would be a sequel and as far as sequels go, the 1981 Halloween 2 was quite good. In fact, many franchise fans consider Halloween 1 and Halloween 2 to be one long film. After all, there is a seamless continuity to both films. H2 picks up right where H1 ends. Stylistically, it worked. H2 had far more gore than it's predecessor. It was almost a necessary evil. After all, from 1978 to 1981, the horror genre had begun to become more about upping the ante in the gore factor. More blood, more guts, more bucks.
When Zombie's H1 was released, I went into it with a great fear that we were about to see a total train wreck. Much to my surprise, it wasn't. Zombie had written a relatively cohesive backstory for young Michael Myers, showing a cycle of abuse, abandonment and dysfunction that led Michael down the proverbial "Psycho Path." Interesting? Somewhat. The only major flaw in that backstory is that it takes the mystery away from the Myers mythology. It's more frightening not to know what makes him so relentless rather than chalking it up to a textbook case of abuse. The main problem that Zombie encountered in making H1 was when the story moved from the original backstory to the remaking of Carpenter's film. The familiar characters became stilted and uninteresting. The storytelling became rushed and truncated. Moreover, the ending became too quick and far too much of a cop out. However, I actually found myself enjoying Zombie's new take on Halloween. No, it would never replace the original, but it wasn't a total failure. I knew it was going to be a difficult balancing act to remake such an iconic film, but I thought that Zombie put his spin on it and managed to be respectful to Carpenter and make the second half of the film more of an homage.
I wondered how long it was going to take for a sequel to rear it's head. I read Zombie state in multiple interviews that since Laurie had blown Michael's head off, there would be no H2 from him. I knew damn well that was a disingenuous statement. Few horror films have endings that are final or absolute. If there is gold to be mined from the masses, they'll find any way possible to resurrect the dead.
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Zombie's H2 has none of the redeeming qualities of his H1. This is a mishmash. An unfocused, Headbanger's Ball video, chock full of jumpcuts, wrapped in a paper thin screenplay that bears little or no resemblance to the original H2. It turns familiar characters inside out and makes them unsympathetic, abrasive and flat-out annoying. The one absolute in the horror genre is that you must truly have some sort of empathy with the characters. I found myself rooting for Michael Myers. He's the only character that truly elicits any sort of pity. Why? Because Zombie is making a futile attempt to continue his backstory that he created in H1. While you should feel sorry for a child from an abusive home, it's rather difficult to feel anything for a 7 foot behemoth lurching around and hacking everyone in sight just because the world has been unjust and unfair. That's predictable and uninteresting. In an effort to explain and perhaps justify Michael's actions, Zombie brings back his wife, Sherri Moon Zombie as Michael's mother Deborah Myers. This time, she's not the tortured mother wondering where she went wrong. She's a guardian angel of death, dressed in white satin and perpetually accompanied by the young version of Michael and a white horse (???) She exhorts Michael to kill for her, as killing his sister is a surefire way to bring their broken family back together. The "Kill for Mommie" tactic totally emasculates Michael. It robs him of his malevolence and makes it seem as if Zombie couldn't come up with anything better than a redux of Jason Voorhees' old M.O. from Friday the 13th. Yes, you might feel pity for Michael in this state.. but for the totally wrong reasons.
Another huge misstep is the moral judgment of good and bad that figures into the majority of horror films. Most horror films have stock characters that you intuitively know should and WILL get their comeuppance. In H2, Zombie's screenplay makes it difficult to feel one way or the other about the people who are on the receiving end of the brutality. The wholesale butchering of the ancillary characters are largely unmotivated and seem like nothing more than a gore quotient filler. Zombie has always had a fascination with grotesques. Characters in all of his films seem to have some sort of grunge or physical oddity, H2 is no exception. It's practically a toothless redneck-fest at times. When those characters make Michael look almost normal, something goes terribly awry.
Scout Compton Taylor's Laurie is ostensibly supposed to be on this tortured emotional journey of survival. Taylor seems to stay on two levels throughout the film - she cries and screams or alternatively acts like a spoiled brat. The only moment in which you feel as if her character might have an epiphany is when she discovers that she is Michael's sister. In that moment, you hope she will find that Jamie Lee Curtis survivalist spunk - but she never does. Instead, she goes back into her established pattern. I won't spoil the half-assed ending, but Zombie's fate for Laurie was basically ripped from the finale of Halloween 4 - and it's just as unoriginal as Michael's "Kill for Mommie" directive.
The most horrific error in the screenplay was to turn Dr. Sam Loomis, once again played by Malcolm McDowell, into a huge punchline. Loomis is no longer the benevolent doctor, relentlessly pursuing the inner workings of Michael's mind. He's now a comic figure that has been transfigured into a media whore, selling sensationalist books on Michael and behaving like a diva. It's a pathetic attempt to inject humor into the script and it fails miserably. Loomis was always the moral compass of the Halloween franchise. He was the one factor that was a necessary constant. He knew that Michael was the personification of evil, and he was the only person who could remotely stop Michael and make him think. Now that Zombie's backstory voided the pure evil mythology, Loomis becomes extraneous. The screenplay does give Loomis a halfhearted attempt at redemption towards the end of the film, but it's too little, too late.
I'd like to take the sound effects editor for this film out into a field and horsewhip him. Every murder is punctuated by Foley overkill. I fully expected each slice of the knife or crunch to be accompanied by a 1960's Batman-style title card (Kerplunk! THUD! SHWAP!) There's also a massive failure on Zombie's part this time around with the film's scoring. The iconic Halloween theme and the Laurie's theme are nowhere to be heard until the last 60 seconds of the film. Carpenter's score is an essential element that makes or breaks any Halloween film. Even the most mediocre of them all feature that music - or variations thereof.
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H2 has moments that attempt to be artistic - particularly in the multiple dream sequences - but all of them left me bored rather than visually engrossed. Yes, H2 has some massive failings, but none more tragic than Zombie's failure to maintain suspense. He telegraphs each intended shock so far in advance, there is simply no element of surprise. No jumps, no startles. You see it coming a mile away and all you have left is the mechanics of the method of dispatch. I think the only genuine startle I got in this film was to see Margot Kidder as Laurie's psychologist. It was shocking to see Lois Lane looking like a weathered leather handbag after 20 years in a combination meth lab and psych ward.
The the thing about Michael Myers that has made this character (and this franchise) endure for over 30 years lies in the simple fact that he IS the Boogeyman. He's the thing we fear most. He's the monster in the closet. He is pure evil. In this story, he's been reduced to a mama's boy with some deep emotional scars. What's most scary about H2 is what Rob Zombie has done to the boogeyman.
Fortunately, there IS hope for the franchise. John B.DeHaas has written a camp, parody MUSICAL version of Halloween that is premiering in Orlando in October. This musical may be the only thing that will remove the bad taste that Rob Zombie's film has left in my mouth.
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