Really New to 240's but love em can you help me?

[iHeart240]

okay guys i want to be able to drift in my 240 and im buying a 91 that needs a clutch today! wooot wooot!!
but i need a LSD
and iw as thinking what is the best LSD for a decent price???
and i hear ppl saying to just do a Welded Open Diff so both tires spin but does it act like and LSD
someone pleae Enlighten me
Thnank you guys very much
-Jon:bowdown:

[OptionZero]

read the FAQ/archives and use the motherfucking search button

[iHeart240]

dude i have been that shit is like wierd but thanks for your hlep i guess..

[exitspeed]

Read again and figure it out. All your questions will be answered.

Oh, and just an FYI, you can't drift 91 240's.

[iHeart240]

dammit jacked up i dont understand!!!!!!!!! Ughh!! fucken 91 why!

[chibi.penguin85]

LOL I Just love how everyone on this forum is arrogant. You no it would have been simpler to just answer the and THEN say "Please use the search next time"
instead of "use the motherfucking search button" or " Oh, and just and FYI, you can't drift 91 240's. Here's a link explaining why." With a link to the logout.

[iHeart240]

uhh btw i think your an asshole because that link just trys making me log out but thanks

[iHeart240]

lol thanks Chibi
like seriously i have searched
like shit im just asking for some help

[chibi.penguin85]

iHeart240 the people on this forum are assholes

[OptionZero]

and in the time it took for you to bitch about this u could read and find the millions of mother fucking threads on welded and other diff options

you'd also find threads on why you search instead of asking about topics that have been answered before

[ThatGuy]

You are asking pretty basic 240 related questions.

People here on Zilvia.net don't like answering these basic questions for every n00b that signs up.

Zilvia is full of TOUGH LOVE and information. You can't get one without the other.

Just spend some time reading around and you'll find tons of answers.

The best LSD? That is a biased questions. It deals with personal preference.
Does a Welded Diff act like a 2-way? Do you understand how a Limited Slip Differential works? If not, that is a good place to start. A Welded or Spooled Diff turns both rear tires at the exact same time, all the time.

Keep reading. If you don't find the answer, read some more. Then after you find the answer, continue reading. :bow:

[exitspeed]

Pretty funny huh?

I'll be nice and say there are way more questions that need to be asked after what you posted.

A lot of people will say welded is best for drifting cause it's cheap. But if it's gonna be your DD it's a little hardcore.

If you want a VLSD, it sucks for drift but'll work. J30 diff. Cheap. i have one fore $100 (which is cheaper then you'll ever see one for sale), but I ain't selling it to your lazy ass.

But if you want to spend money, go tomie, or kazz, etc. Depends on what's cheap to you.

Hope that helps AND doesn't at the same time, because you coulda read ALL that in the FAQ section or by searching.

Good day.

[Pank]

AWW BOOOO HOOO
use the search button
every single noob question you have in that brain of yours has been asked before, and has been answered
its not our fault you bought the 91 240, you should have done more research, then you would have KNOWN you cant drift them.

also, you type exactly like i imagine 18 year olds type and its fucking slaying me

[worangejuice]

okok,
www.enjukuracing.com has some awesome fucking prices!
Buy the 'drift bible' and tsuchiya will teach you the essentials,
1.5 diff=$800+$200 install, if you do not yourself
Coils=at least $1200+ install
sign-up for practice day =justdrift.com
look at all these then search and shit
then you will be super dorifto jdm monster man!

[iHeart240]

That Guy
Thanks i dont fully understand an lsd truthfully lol
lol u live in Milwaukee why would i want a j30 from there where i live in So Cal Yorba Linda and HB where i can find one so what if i spend some extra money lol stupid ass.

[mRclARK1]

You are asking pretty basic 240 related questions.

People here on Zilvia.net don't like answering these basic questions for every n00b that signs up.

Zilvia is full of TOUGH LOVE and information. You can't get one without the other.

Just spend some time reading around and you'll find tons of answers.

The best LSD? That is a biased questions. It deals with personal preference.
Does a Welded Diff act like a 2-way? Do you understand how a Limited Slip Differential works? If not, that is a good place to start. A Welded or Spooled Diff turns both rear tires at the exact same time, all the time.

Keep reading. If you don't find the answer, read some more. Then after you find the answer, continue reading. :bow:

See... Zilvia loves you! :kiss:

I used to live in Yorba Linda. :hs: lol

[OptionZero]

That Guy
Thanks i dont fully understand an lsd truthfully lol
lol u live in Milwaukee why would i want a j30 from there where i live in So Cal Yorba Linda and HB where i can find one so what if i spend some extra money lol stupid ass.

if you don't understand how it works, maybe u should find out what the fuck it does before you buy it

alternatively, if you want to waste money, just send it to me

[chibi.penguin85]

lol this is going to turn into a flame session.

[Pank]

That Guy
Thanks i dont fully understand an lsd truthfully lol
lol u live in Milwaukee why would i want a j30 from there where i live in So Cal Yorba Linda and HB where i can find one so what if i spend some extra money lol stupid ass.

hahaha, what the fuck? this doesn't even make sense. please sticky this so people know what not to do, mods

[unwed_transient]

Keep reading. If you don't find the answer, read some more. Then after you find the answer, continue reading. :bow:

this is the best advice you can get.

the best knowledge is the kind that you discover yourself.

edit: having trouble searching?

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=144721

it was stickied at the top of the page.

[ThatGuy]

lol this is going to turn into a flame session.

All you've managed to do in this thread is double your post count. If you're not offering any help, then you're just as bad as the people you're complaining about.:hammer:

[MELLO*SOS]

Hey Jon.

Here's your checklist:

Get your car road-worthy before anything else. Fix all the broken stuff and leaks.
Get your open diff welded
Buy some used coilovers
Buy a spare set of 15 or 16" wheels
Buy decent tires for the front (try the Dunlop dz101's) and a bunch of trash tires for the rear.
Buy yourself a helmet
Watch Keiichi's "Drift Bible" video
Sign up for some JustDrift events and get as much seat time as possible


Now you're drifters too!!!

PS - every thread you make will have lots of guys jumping at the chance to flame you for asking n00b questions.. So take your time researching before you hit the post new thread button.... Every single thing you want to ask or know about has been asked and discussed here already. Also a word of advice, if you wanna make it here you should put a little more time or effort into typing your posts, cause your grammar kinda sucks which makes you come across as some n00b 13yr old. GL

[statik]

Read again and figure it out. All your questions will be answered.

Oh, and just an FYI, you can't drift 91 240's. Here's a link explaining why. (http://www.zilvia.net/f//login.php?do=logout&logouthash=0cd86679f0dbf0bb20ed8bf06e34bc06)

FYI this version of vBulletin implements CSRF-preventing tokens, so you can't actually force anyone to log themselves out among other things =]

[k's_silvia2.0]

Truthfully I think if someone is asking a question its for a reason.
Im sure they dont know about "The search bar"I didnt at firts and I found myself in iHeart240 shoes people just talking shit.All it takes is just let someone know by saying "hey just search"NO need for all the negative remarks.Its just not neccesary and if you see a n00b quetion just ignore im sure someone will help out.DANG!!!!

[Manhitbytran]

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/differential.htm
Read that, it might help you

[azndoc]

Welded Diff = Poor man's LSD

I don't know your meaning of a decent price for an LSD.

I will just say this to you.

Quality over quantity. If you don't know what that means then just think it over and you'll figure it out.

Don't spend your money on crap parts just to save a few bucks. Save the money and spend it right the first time and you shouldn't have to do so again.

A welded diff will allow you to drift but is a pain in the ass as a DD (for some people).

Some LSDs that are well known for their name and quality are Tomei (what I used and love), KAZZ, Cusco, ATS (which there's a sale for on the forum right now at a great price), NISMO, and OS Giken (baller)

I'm sure I miss some other companies but that's the ones I remember.

Also take into consideration that the different brands of LSD has their own pros and cons depending on the people who use them. Everyone has their own opinions. Which is what you should make.

Lastly don't get too butthurt about the flaming its just how it is. You'll come to appreciate it because at least its the honest truth. Stick around, you'll learn alot from this forum.

GL

[k's_silvia2.0]

Lastly don't get too butthurt about the flaming its just how it is. You'll come to appreciate it because at least its the honest truth. Stick around, you'll learn alot from this forum.
GL

Listen up straight knowledge being kicked.

[Irukandji]

18 + wants to drift = FAIL

[trsilvias13]

Any LSD is good for drifting. When you take lsd, everything seems fast anyways. - I didnt know LSD came with different brand, I just get it from the guy at the corner. Take it and just sit in your car, seem like you are drifting standing still.

get a welded diff, if you dont like it, get vlsd, hlsd, a 1.0 way 1.5way or 2 way - you act like you will ever use the open diff again.

[k's_silvia2.0]

18 + wants to drift = FAIL

Why is that? Im sure theres plenty of young drivers out there.
I was doing alot of spirited driving at 18:mephfawk:

[ManoNegra]

^ Yeah, but that's usually a recipe for disaster, sooner or later it's just a matter of time.
OP lives in SoCal, no excuse for 'street drifting' - there's plenty of events going on all the time.

[trogdor]

Pretty funny huh?
A lot of people will say welded is best for drifting cause it's cheap. But if it's gonna be your DD it's a little hardcore.


no it's not. just dont floor it around every corner. if you have powersteering, it's not bad.

go with a welded diff. pass on the vlsd and save your money.

[snappy]

That Guy
Thanks i dont fully understand an lsd truthfully lol
lol u live in Milwaukee why would i want a j30 from there where i live in So Cal Yorba Linda and HB where i can find one so what if i spend some extra money lol stupid ass.

iHeart240, ^^^ this makes you look even more like a Douche (a vaginal cleaning tool), just in case you don't know what that is- especially when you're trying to rip on one of the most knowledgeable members on Zilvia. Oh and have a great day :newbie:.

[azndoc]

Oh yeah and we eat noobies for breakfest. (Another Premie made me say it I swear).


Wait.............. I'm a noobie still.

Crap.

[JRas]

gonna delete this post to refain from getting 10 more negative reps

in the end I was wrong a simple your wrong would of been just fine

[OptionZero]

you should shut the fuck up if you don't know what you're talking about

[fliprayzin240sx]

I think an open welded diff would probably be better for drifting LSD ( limited slip diff ) seems like it would actually be worse for drifting as when you turn a corner the inside wheel spins less than the outside wheel. open would spin them at the same speed going straight and while turning so you'd probably be able to break traction pretty easily.

Sheesh, why would you spout some bullshiet out of your ass?!?! Do you even know what an open diff is?!?! It pushes power the the wheel with the least amount of traction...so when you ACTUALLY GET A 240, try to drift an open diff, and tell us what the fuck happens when you do. Until then...

STFU

[yokotas13]

wow just wow

[azndoc]

I think an open welded diff would probably be better for drifting LSD ( limited slip diff ) seems like it would actually be worse for drifting as when you turn a corner the inside wheel spins less than the outside wheel. open would spin them at the same speed going straight and while turning so you'd probably be able to break traction pretty easily.

Oh what the........

Okay:loco:

WOW

[iHeart240]

Welded Diff = Poor man's LSD

I don't know your meaning of a decent price for an LSD.

I will just say this to you.

Quality over quantity. If you don't know what that means then just think it over and you'll figure it out.

Don't spend your money on crap parts just to save a few bucks. Save the money and spend it right the first time and you shouldn't have to do so again.

A welded diff will allow you to drift but is a pain in the ass as a DD (for some people).

Some LSDs that are well known for their name and quality are Tomei (what I used and love), KAZZ, Cusco, ATS (which there's a sale for on the forum right now at a great price), NISMO, and OS Giken (baller)

I'm sure I miss some other companies but that's the ones I remember.

Also take into consideration that the different brands of LSD has their own pros and cons depending on the people who use them. Everyone has their own opinions. Which is what you should make.

Lastly don't get too butthurt about the flaming its just how it is. You'll come to appreciate it because at least its the honest truth. Stick around, you'll learn alot from this forum.

GL
Yah thanks im not getting to "BUTTHURT" about it i see how it is. Yah i have learned somethings like i guess if u dont research good enough and you ask a question u get flamed on like crazy lol.

[eastcoastS14]

I think an open welded diff would probably be better for drifting LSD ( limited slip diff ) seems like it would actually be worse for drifting as when you turn a corner the inside wheel spins less than the outside wheel. open would spin them at the same speed going straight and while turning so you'd probably be able to break traction pretty easily.

translation: "well if I had to just had to pull something random out of my ass I would have to guess that that thing that I dont understand works better than that thing Ive never used based on some logic that I just made up...and what i learned inv10th grade sience"

[exitspeed]

no it's not. just dont floor it around every corner. if you have powersteering, it's not bad.

go with a welded diff. pass on the vlsd and save your money.

That's really a matter of opinion more then anything. To some it might not be bad, but others might not like it. The OP didn't say if it was a track only car or a DD I don't believe. I'm referring to the skipping your tires around turns at low speeds that some might find undesirable for a DD car.

For drifting like he said he wants to do, I agree welded > VLSD. But if say you autoX, VLSD > welded. So I've been told. I've only had open and VLSD in for autoX. I know I need a real diff though.

[KA24DESOneThree]

Here's the deal: we've all been noobies at one point in time. However, not all of us are dumb enough to make threads about OMG WTF R I 2 DO?

Read the threads that are on this website and on others and if you can't figure out what to do from there then you are not only hopeless, but you are a liability to society.

It takes a long time and I know I probably had hundreds of hours of research into buying my 240SX before I even had one picked out.

[JRas]

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[Baka Sama]

Read again and figure it out. All your questions will be answered.

Oh, and just an FYI, you can't drift 91 240's. Here's a link explaining why. (http://www.zilvia.net/f//login.php?do=logout&logouthash=0cd86679f0dbf0bb20ed8bf06e34bc06)

Damn it exitspeed! I cant believe I fail for that!!!! Hahahahahaha

[turtle m3th]

Read again and figure it out. All your questions will be answered.

Oh, and just an FYI, you can't drift 91 240's. Here's a link explaining why. (http://www.zilvia.net/f//login.php?do=logout&logouthash=0cd86679f0dbf0bb20ed8bf06e34bc06)


you put a smile on my face =) I love zilvia!!! LMAO:keke:

[bardabe]

you put a smile on my face =) I love zilvia!!! LMAO:keke:

lol I'll 2nd that motion.

[Andrew Bohan]

http://blog.pbwiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/fail.jpg

[DOOK]

well a lot of stupidity was vomitted out of mouths in this thread.... I stopped reading after a few responses cause I got pissed off, so sorry if it's already been answered, if not... read up here... it explains 1.5 way, 2 way, etc...

http://www.drifting.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6800

[JDS Performance]

wow "Phillip" let this thread go this far without his famous "locked"

Wow and congrats is all I can say!

Is he sick or fired I havent seen him on here in a while?

[Rayne]

Hey Jon.

Here's your checklist:

Get your car road-worthy before anything else. Fix all the broken stuff and leaks.
Get your open diff welded
Buy some used coilovers
Buy a spare set of 15 or 16" wheels
Buy decent tires for the front (try the Dunlop dz101's) and a bunch of trash tires for the rear.
Buy yourself a helmet
Watch Keiichi's "Drift Bible" video
Sign up for some JustDrift events and get as much seat time as possible


Now you're drifters too!!!

PS - every thread you make will have lots of guys jumping at the chance to flame you for asking n00b questions.. So take your time researching before you hit the post new thread button.... Every single thing you want to ask or know about has been asked and discussed here already. Also a word of advice, if you wanna make it here you should put a little more time or effort into typing your posts, cause your grammar kinda sucks which makes you come across as some n00b 13yr old. GL


Everything Joel said...plus people tend to give negative rep quicker than positive....some people deserve it. However most of the time newbies or non-premium members get hit the hardest with negative rep.

[mrmephistopheles]

Let's be a bit nicer, folks.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Let's be a bit nicer, folks.

Sorry...Nicer, n00b and zilvia dont go together.

Try to look up Nice, n00b, and zilvia reject, you'll get NICO...:rant2:

Wait I cant remember if its really nice or rice...i always get them 2 confused...:kiss: