**NOS**

[240SxTYLE]

i was just wondering what you guys think of nos... basically i wanted to figure out if i should get it or not (the stage section says too)... i wanna try to get these questions answered: (if it helps i want the venom wet system)

1. what will it do for me (track time)? (worth the money)
2. whats a good shot for a 240?
3. is NOS going to wear down my engine quicker than a turbo would?
4. what would be over doing it, as in shot and shots per day

thanks y'all

[95exlude]

here is what i would do if you really wanna go nitrous:  first completely build ur block, get a bigger turbo, then get the nitrous (40 shot) to make up for bad turbo lag.

1. is it worth your money? yes...but not on a stock block, will just end up costing you in the long run.
2. i would never go above a 50 shot on a stock block, if you insist on spraying on a stock black i recommend maybe 30
3. depends on the boost/shot
4. all i can say, is use it in moderation.  if you go to a track i can understand using it every run.  but dont be spraying every 5 miles on the highway or for 5 consecutive races on the street.

[SilviaDriver]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (240SxTYLE @ Sep. 04 2002,9:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i was just wondering what you guys think of nos... basically i wanted to figure out if i should get it or not (the stage section says too)... i wanna try to get these questions answered: (if it helps i want the venom wet system)

1. what will it do for me (track time)? (worth the money)
2. whats a good shot for a 240?
3. is NOS going to wear down my engine quicker than a turbo would?
4. what would be over doing it, as in shot and shots per day

thanks y'all</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
its Nitrous u Fast and Furious character!

1] it will lower your times, but if ur running bracket racing u wanna be consistant and Nitrous will not help.
2] i say about 50? might be able to do more
3] if u keep shooting it i think it would
4] 50 a day? y dont u just use it when u need it, and that doesnt mean if some ricer comes up to and revs at u meaning u have to squeeze, but i think u could beat him.

welcome

[Fresh 240SX]

I was thinking of like a 25 shot on the stock setup..... just really stealthy... like vin diesel RX-7 passanger seat style....
How much difference would a 25 shot make...

[xhdriver]

1.its definatly worth the money, best bang for the buck
2.get a upgraded fuel pump and a 70 shot
3.no, i doubt it
4.just use it when you feel the itch

i have a good amount of nitrous experience on my brothers and my old hybrid hondas, it is a blast

[whateverjames]

around a 75 shot is what everyone seems to like. i see topics where someone just had their system installed and the 50 shot was ok. but the 75 was a kick in the ass. it's usually safe to use half of what your stock horsepower is.

[95exlude]

well i had a friend, well not really a friend the guy is an idiot, but a guy i know just send a rod thru his cylinder on a 30 shot. &nbsp;please believe me when i say build ur block first. &nbsp;how many miles are on the one you have right now? &nbsp;it might be worth it to get everything rebuilt anyways and throw in some sleeves and pistons. &nbsp;they do make special pistons for nitrous apps.

dont listen to this guy, dont get a 70 fuggin shot on a stock block.

[whateverjames]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (95exlude @ Sep. 03 2002,11:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">well i had a friend, well not really a friend the guy is an idiot, but a guy i know just send a rod thru his cylinder on a 30 shot. please believe me when i say build ur block first. how many miles are on the one you have right now? it might be worth it to get everything rebuilt anyways and throw in some sleeves and pistons. they do make special pistons for nitrous apps.

dont listen to this guy, dont get a 70 fuggin shot on a stock block.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
fook off
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[BEISSEN]

Well a wet shot is more of a wet ur pants when you get higher the a 50.S be carefull cus it is alot more potent.But if you do 75 shot you will be ok but remeber to shift I had a friend who blew his motor but went down in victory here on the boards.Hey had 140,000 miles and was spraying 75 dry shot.</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">well i had a friend, well not really a friend the guy is an idiot, but a guy i know just send a rod thru his cylinder on a 30 shot. &nbsp;please believe me when i say build ur block first. &nbsp;how many miles are on the one you have right now? &nbsp;it might be worth it to get everything rebuilt anyways and throw in some sleeves and pistons. &nbsp;they do make special pistons for nitrous apps.

dont listen to this guy, dont get a 70 fuggin shot on a stock block.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>Hey 95exlude man look a honda has a aluminum block which is a ton weaker then a cast iron and also a honda was not meant as much for a for racing and other stuff as whee a 240sx can handel alot more then a civic,prelude,or any other honda imo.No dont get me wrong hondas can be fast but are faster when built like a fully built n/a honda can be pretty nasty.But a cast iron block will last a little longer then a aluminum block will.

[guidot]

Maybe i'm just analyzing this too much but:

Aluminum - coke cans

Cast Iron - Woodstove

You tell me what can handle more heat and pressure...its a common sense thing. &nbsp;Note: Common sense. &nbsp;Most people have this.

[whateverjames]

i'd like to add that with fuel upgrades and the correct tuning. you can get 350 hp at the wheels from a stock block, with a turbocharger. our cars can handle a lot. your friend (or guy you know) threw a rod from another problem. any motor that throws a rod due to a 30 shot shouldn't even be raced!

[xhdriver]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">any motor that throws a rod due to a 30 shot shouldn't even be raced! </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

exactly, if your motor is healthy, and you have enough fuel you will be fine, dont over rev it though!

edit: another thing, i wouldnt go for the expensive computer controlled kits, the regular throttle switch works just the same. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; "naturally NOSperated" <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>

[chickenmanq]

Nitrous Oxide is bullshit easy way out Chevy gas! &nbsp;Any moron can throw a more volatile mixture into the combustion chamber. &nbsp;I don't care how much hp it gives, it's just plain WRONG!

If you really want reliable horsepower, rip out your engine and rebuild it. &nbsp;NO2 (couldn't get subscript 2) will weaken your engine due to high heat (expansion and contraction rates well over stock), it will not be something you can use in normal driving, it will have the potential to overheat your engine should you lay into it too much (thus damaging it). &nbsp;Think scattered con rods.

Yes, you can build the engine to take Nitrous, but why not actually invest some time and caress your engine with new parts, not higher heat. &nbsp;It almost fits under the "if it sounds to good to be true, it probably is" category.

[ca18guy]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (chickenmanq @ Sep. 05 2002,7:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Nitrous Oxide is bullshit easy way out Chevy gas! Any moron can throw a more volatile mixture into the combustion chamber. I don't care how much hp it gives, it's just plain WRONG!

If you really want reliable horsepower, rip out your engine and rebuild it. NO2 (couldn't get subscript 2) will weaken your engine due to high heat (expansion and contraction rates well over stock), it will not be something you can use in normal driving, it will have the potential to overheat your engine should you lay into it too much (thus damaging it). Think scattered con rods.

Yes, you can build the engine to take Nitrous, but why not actually invest some time and caress your engine with new parts, not higher heat. It almost fits under the "if it sounds to good to be true, it probably is" category.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Any idiot can add a turbo kit, whats your point?

[tnord]

"i was just wondering what you guys think of nos"

the same as i think of steriods

[95exlude]

its not the composition of the block im worrying about, its the size...that 70shot means a lot more in a 2.4L block then it does in a 6L. &nbsp;Obviously we got some ppl in here who dont care to much about having ur motor for long...

[matic 240sx]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (240SxTYLE @ Sep. 03 2002,10:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">1. what will it do for me (track time)? (worth the money)
2. whats a good shot for a 240?
3. is NOS going to wear down my engine quicker than a turbo would?
4. what would be over doing it, as in shot and shots per day

thanks y'all</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
i wouldn't go wet.. get a NX kit.

1. 75 shot = low 14s if installed right
2. 75 shop
3. no if you dont abuse it. some people go through a bottles like soda, thats stupid.. dont use it just to race anything.
4. a 100 shot direct port is on the line. max limit on stock fuel pump on 240sx dohc

this is all considering that you have a strong engine with no problems.. runs goods..

nitrous is a nice thing to have.. just dont act an ass with it. &nbsp;i would be happy to walk you thru an install..

edit: btw ill sell you a new NX kit 490.00 plus shipping.. find it cheaper ill max it &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

[DuffMan]

If you don't mind doing a little work, (removing and reinstalling intake manifold) get a NOS sportsman fogger direct port set up. It's the best way to get an even fuel/air mix and only costs about $500. With an upgraded fuel pump, stock engine would be good for at least 75 if not 100 shot.

[stil bil]

i bought a book about nitrous on your sport compact car(import)

i believe haynes wrote it, i got it at hastings, if you have one where you are, i would suggest this to you, read the book, learn how to tune your engine and get it ready to handle n2o, then after deciding whether you want it or not do it then....

you will never hear a good answer from somebody else,

>its your car
>if you want it, do it right and in moderation...
>dont let the way somebody else feels influence your decision.

thats just my .02

after reading the book i have found that i would really like to have a shot for grins.. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

[AutoDestruct]

The cheapest true power booster you can buy. &nbsp; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

[chickenmanq]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ca18guy @ Sep. 05 2002,02:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (chickenmanq @ Sep. 05 2002,7:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Nitrous Oxide is bullshit easy way out Chevy gas! Any moron can throw a more volatile mixture into the combustion chamber. I don't care how much hp it gives, it's just plain WRONG!

If you really want reliable horsepower, rip out your engine and rebuild it. NO2 (couldn't get subscript 2) will weaken your engine due to high heat (expansion and contraction rates well over stock), it will not be something you can use in normal driving, it will have the potential to overheat your engine should you lay into it too much (thus damaging it). Think scattered con rods.

Yes, you can build the engine to take Nitrous, but why not actually invest some time and caress your engine with new parts, not higher heat. It almost fits under the "if it sounds to good to be true, it probably is" category.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Any idiot can add a turbo kit, whats your point?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
My point is there's a difference between adding a piece of hardware which will guarantee more hp, but not significantly effect the running of the engine, and putting in a more volatile mixture that heats up the engine, and can only be used for a short time, such as in 1/4 mile racing.

It's not a true 50 hp. &nbsp;It comes and goes.

Whereas a turbo gives the x horsepower whenever you're above a certain rpm, which of course is staying until you let off the gas. &nbsp;Supercharger gives constant power increase.


My other point is Nitrous is the easy way out, and does not give consistent hp performance to really be worthwhile to the true racing fan. &nbsp;(Road racing, not 1/4 mile racing.)

[95exlude]

further more, when out at races or the track and you show up in ur 240, whats more impressive? the fully built block or the nitrous? &nbsp;and if ur ever racing for money...its either all motor vs all motor or you gotta find someone that is spraying with you...

[misnomer]

Nitrous will make a good suppliment to a well built engine, spool turbo faster, etc. But, I don't respect it as a sole source of power.

[95exlude]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (misnomer @ Sep. 06 2002,12:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Nitrous will make a good suppliment to a well built engine, spool turbo faster, etc. But, I don't respect it as a sole source of power.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
my thoughts exactly...i would only use it to beat the lag of a massive turbo

[blink0r]

It's "Nitrous". NOS is a company. Thank-you.

[240SxTYLE]

thanks for everyones opinions... you gave me a few options that i can choose from. &nbsp;i rarely ever street race and im planning to go out to the track more often, so i wouldnt really use it. &nbsp;if anything its just back-up... maybe i'll just do a sr20 with a XX shot of nitrous oxide (yeah, in my dreams &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sleeping.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzzz:'> )

[tnord]

don't plan on using it at a road course, i don't think anybody allows it

[matic 240sx]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (95exlude @ Sep. 03 2002,11:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">well i had a friend, well not really a friend the guy is an idiot, but a guy i know just send a rod thru his cylinder on a 30 shot. please believe me when i say build ur block first. how many miles are on the one you have right now? it might be worth it to get everything rebuilt anyways and throw in some sleeves and pistons. they do make special pistons for nitrous apps.

dont listen to this guy, dont get a 70 fuggin shot on a stock block.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
alright now i just think your retarded... &nbsp;a 30 shot sent his rod thru his cylinder..

*Lets play guess the truth!!*

one. &nbsp;your full of sh*t

two. &nbsp;someone with a fogger kit did it and you have no idea what your talking about

three. &nbsp;if it was true it would be a 88 geo with 900,000 miles on it

[icer]

Yeh i'd have to say I'm with Matic when he says that guy is full a sh*t. My buddy's got a like '90 Civic hatch with like 170,000 miles and he blows a 50 shot with no problems.