Help for a Silvia newbie

[itachi688]

hey guys so anyway i bought a 92 se hatch a couple weeks ago and its my first stick. now ive read about the redline at 6 and the stock specs. but id like to get some info from the ppl who actually DRIVE the car.

for the daily drive i shift at about 3-3.5 and it gets me 20mpg. but i do like to bring it up to 6 when im gettin on the freeway n such to really hear the engine. but exactly HOW far can i take this car?

SPECS:
92 SE hatch
stock KA
stock tranny
195,000 miles. been a garage baby tho. runs smooth.

so plz tell me. how far can i push, how much can it take, and whats the best shift point to keep the mileage(college student :D)

[Wahl 136]

hey guys so anyway i bought a 92 se hatch a couple weeks ago and its my first stick. now ive read about the redline at 6 and the stock specs. but id like to get some info from the ppl who actually DRIVE the car.

for the daily drive i shift at about 3-3.5 and it gets me 20mpg. but i do like to bring it up to 6 when im gettin on the freeway n such to really hear the engine. but exactly HOW far can i take this car?

SPECS:
92 SE hatch
stock KA
stock tranny
195,000 miles. been a garage baby tho. runs smooth.

so plz tell me. how far can i push, how much can it take, and whats the best shift point to keep the mileage(college student :D)


Your new best friend http://www.zilvia.net/f/search.php

It's been covered six ways from sideways.

congrats on the new car.

[panama DRIFT]

power dies off around 5.5 im sure you probally noticed that, so i'd say thats the "limit" no point pushing it past that

[unicoladron]

hey guys so anyway i bought a 92 se hatch a couple weeks ago and its my first stick. now ive read about the redline at 6 and the stock specs. but id like to get some info from the ppl who actually DRIVE the car.

for the daily drive i shift at about 3-3.5 and it gets me 20mpg. but i do like to bring it up to 6 when im gettin on the freeway n such to really hear the engine. but exactly HOW far can i take this car?

SPECS:
92 SE hatch
stock KA
stock tranny
195,000 miles. been a garage baby tho. runs smooth.

so plz tell me. how far can i push, how much can it take, and whats the best shift point to keep the mileage(college student :D)

bro just fucking take it for a spirited driving session down some service road, side street, deserted alley or some shit. and if you're scared about blowing the engine and actually do, you have an excuse to buy an SR.

OR just sit in your driveway and rev the shit out of it...?

[projectRDM]

The car is called a 240SX, not a Silvia. You're not in Japan.

[itachi688]

i understand that its been covered quite a bit, however, i wanted opinions based on MY car. the mileage, the stock specs from nissan vs actual drivers, and my own inexperience.

[kuramaya]

Throw some suspension in it and slide that bitch

[s13_redSILVIA]

why are you calling your 240sx hatch a silvia?...if it was in japan its called a 180sx if you didnt know =]

[fliprayzin240sx]

i understand that its been covered quite a bit, however, i wanted opinions based on MY car. the mileage, the stock specs from nissan vs actual drivers, and my own inexperience.

If you need a damn opinion based on YOUR car, why dont YOU fucking figure it out. Its not our car, we dont know the condition of the engine, we've never seen nor have we driven YOUR car. Its stock hi mileage KA, I highly doubt it can do anything much than trying to outrun a damn civic...:ugh:

[azndoc]

No comment

Well okay just one.

Just drive it yourself and figure it out which point you should be shifting in order to get better mileage.

GL

[fliprayzin240sx]

You want better gas mileage, get off the fucking GAS!!! Better yet do a full tune up, change the fuel filter, o2 sensor and clean your gas tank.

[itachi688]

jesus christ all i did was call it a silvia. fuck. so sorry i refer to an s chassis as a silvia. just a question. and i know about the diff between 180sx, 240sx, and silvias. just close the damn thread.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Welcome to zilvia!!! Dont ask stupid questions so you wont get stupid answers.

[Dirty Habit]

You want better gas mileage, get off the fucking GAS!!! Better yet do a full tune up, change the fuel filter, o2 sensor and clean your gas tank.

Welcome to zilvia!!! Dont ask stupid questions so you wont get stupid answers.

Wholly agreed. Also shifting before 3k helps gas milage..

[azndoc]

It's called tough love.

You haven't seen shit yet.

But just take your licking, learn your lesson, and move on.

Don't take it personal.

It's nothing new here.

[kuramaya]

jesus christ all i did was call it a silvia. fuck. so sorry i refer to an s chassis as a silvia. just a question. and i know about the diff between 180sx, 240sx, and silvias. just close the damn thread.

Her butt hurts, looks like yours does too:
http://www.gwenworld.com/mexico/mexico4.jpg

[DOOK]

what tough love, no, not here, never.... I think my first post was a dumbass question too, no hard feelings bud, but the only person who knows your car is you. Just with every other make and model in the world, they are all different, they'll all lived different lives just like you and I....

[theronin]

welcome to zilvia.

sounds like ya got a pretty nice s13 on your hands. careful with the silvia word around here. good luck newbie, you're gonna need it here. :)

[azndoc]

At least he's not like a guy that I got a email from once that asked this.

"Could you please tell me which year of the Nissan Silvia came with the RB26dett engine. Thanks."

[kanagawa_kouki]

Gee golly what tha fuck.

[DOOK]

At least he's not like a guy that I got a email from once that asked this.

"Could you please tell me which year of the Nissan Silvia came with the RB26dett engine. Thanks."


what year was that jack????? I think mine originally had one, but I swapped it for the SR... got it a week before Race Wars on the cheap too.

[Iceman00]

Throw some suspension in it and slide that bitch
Drifting is gay.

Anyhow, your stock redline should be about 6500rpm, so shift there for best performance. It will drop your car back into the powerband.

Try shifting your car a little earlier, mostly around 3K or below if you can. Use Regular Gasoline, make sure the tires are inflated to proper PSI, make sure/do a check up on on the fluids, and if you must a tune up.

Enjoy.

[DOOK]

for best results, bounce the rev limiter several times before granny shiftin... don't double clutch like yah should, that's bad.

[CKAMC]

Drifting is gay.

Anyhow, your stock redline should be about 6500rpm, so shift there for best performance. It will drop your car back into the powerband.

Try shifting your car a little earlier, mostly around 3K or below if you can. Use Regular Gasoline, make sure the tires are inflated to proper PSI, make sure/do a check up on on the fluids, and if you must a tune up.

Enjoy.


Coming from the guy with a JWT altima :loco: :ugh:

[Kn1ves]

Drifting is gay.

Anyhow, your stock redline should be about 6500rpm, so shift there for best performance. It will drop your car back into the powerband.

Try shifting your car a little earlier, mostly around 3K or below if you can. Use Regular Gasoline, make sure the tires are inflated to proper PSI, make sure/do a check up on on the fluids, and if you must a tune up.

Enjoy.

Drifting = gay for someone with an Altima

Upshift from 5.5k gives you the most power. read magazine scans of the 240sx when it was brand new and most of them advise that as well

Use premium gas since it was intended to be used with premium gas. The difference between a full tank of gas with premium vs regular is like $.30~ at most. Don't be a cheap ass.

[kamikazekid]

if you play in that 5000 to 6000 RPM range too much you'll probly have to change that timing chain preatty soon. once thats done you should be good after that.

Drifting is gay.

Anyhow, your stock redline should be about 6500rpm, so shift there for best performance. It will drop your car back into the powerband.

Try shifting your car a little earlier, mostly around 3K or below if you can. Use Regular Gasoline, make sure the tires are inflated to proper PSI, make sure/do a check up on on the fluids, and if you must a tune up.

Enjoy.
drifting is gay? get the fuck out'a here with your POS Altima.

[Andrew Bohan]

god i'm glad i was never a noob

[Iceman00]

Drifting is gay.

Anyhow, your stock redline should be about 6500rpm, so shift there for best performance. It will drop your car back into the powerband.

Try shifting your car a little earlier, mostly around 3K or below if you can. Use Regular Gasoline, make sure the tires are inflated to proper PSI, make sure/do a check up on on the fluids, and if you must a tune up.

Enjoy.

1. YOU will be faster shifting at redline. Even with power Dropping at 5600rpm, shifting at redline will drop you right back at around 4600rpm or so. You cannot Disagree that this is the fastest way of accleration.

2. Drifting IS Stupid.

3. Nissan recommends regular gasoline. Using anything else, and your wasting your money, and hurting your fuel economy. JWT's Ecu bumps up the timing maps so you can take advantage of higher octane, unlike with the stock Ecu.

I'm right, your wrong. Faggots.

[CKAMC]

1. YOU will be faster shifting at redline. Even with power Dropping at 5600rpm, shifting at redline will drop you right back at around 4600rpm or so. You cannot Disagree that this is the fastest way of accleration.

2. Drifting IS Stupid.

I'm right, your wrong. Faggots.

Looks like someone has been watching too much fast and furious :keke:

Comeback when you own a 240.

[Kn1ves]

HAHAHAHHA
Here's a picture of my gas tank.
http://illusivedesigns.net/kn1ves/misc/images/IMG_0518.JPG
http://illusivedesigns.net/kn1ves/misc/images/IMG_0519.JPG

Nissan recommends what? Thanks for playing.

[Kn1ves]

And heres the image from Grassroots Motorsports
http://www.240sx.org/links/magazine/grassrt/page4.jpg

"Motortrend said the 240sx 'vibrates badly at 6000RPM'. Both of those road tests also pointed out that it was best to shift the cars at 1500RPM below the redline."

Sorry but you and your Altima fails.

[Iceman00]

Drifting = gay for someone with an Altima

Upshift from 5.5k gives you the most power. read magazine scans of the 240sx when it was brand new and most of them advise that as well

Use premium gas since it was intended to be used with premium gas. The difference between a full tank of gas with premium vs regular is like $.30~ at most. Don't be a cheap ass.

You dumb fuck. Nissan recommends using 87 in the KA24DE block. If you can provide proof of something different, I will eat my words. Before, when I was on the stock ecu, the car ran like crap on anything other than 87. Now with the ECU, I have to run premium.

Just to humilate you further, I want to remind you all than The Altima uses the same KA24DE block as the 240sx. So yes, my POS Altima with JWT cams and ECU with a 7000rpm redline is shit, and you all know more about effective powerbands and shift points than JWT.

And because I thive on making others look like the pieces of shit they are, I went ahead and downloaded Cartest 4.5 (a free download here http://www.cartestsoftware.com/cartest4.5/index.html)

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/7475/windt5.png (http://imageshack.us)
Shot at 2007-08-16

I ran 3 different types of 240sx's.
Default, Shift at Redline, and Shift at power peak. Guess which one had the best accleration?

Time to 100ft
Redline 240sx (shifting at 6500rpm) 3.3
Default 240sx (shifting at optimum shift points) 3.3
Pre-Redline 240sx (shifting at 5500rpm) 3.4

Time to 500ft
Redline 240sx (shifting at 6500rpm) 8.9
Default 240sx (shifting at optimum shift points) 8.9
Pre-Redline 240sx (shifting at 5500rpm) 9.1

1/4mile time
Redline 240sx (shifting at 6500rpm) 16.4 @ 85.4mph <----WINNER
Default 240sx (shifting at optimum shift points) 16.4 @ 84.9mph
Pre-Redline 240sx (shifting at 5500rpm) 16.8 @ 84.2mph

You're a piece of shit, and your wrong.

[Kn1ves]

Eat your words, I just posted my gas tank above yours while you were out wasting your time making up numbers.

and

Motortrend's words > yours and ur gay program

Altima KA24DE is not the same as a 240SX KA24DE

Thanks for 'humilating' me

[racepar1]

1. YOU will be faster shifting at redline. Even with power Dropping at 5600rpm, shifting at redline will drop you right back at around 4600rpm or so. You cannot Disagree that this is the fastest way of accleration.

2. Drifting IS Stupid.

3. Nissan recommends regular gasoline. Using anything else, and your wasting your money, and hurting your fuel economy. JWT's Ecu bumps up the timing maps so you can take advantage of higher octane, unlike with the stock Ecu.

I'm right, your wrong. Faggots.



1. How the hell would you know when to shift a 240, you drive a gay ass altima?

2. Drifting is only stupid when the person doing the drifting is stupid.

3. Learn to f*cking read you idiot nissan reccomends premium for all 240's

[Iceman00]

1. The Altima uses the same Engine as the 240sx Dumbass.
2. Drifting is worthless.
3. I Told you if you can prove otherwise, I'd eat my words. And I do. Nissan Recommends premium fuel in the 240sx.
4. I didn't fabracte those numbers. And Until you can come up with anything better, I'm going to continue to regard you as an idiot.

[Kn1ves]

If its the same engine, then tell me why Nissan would recommend Premium for the 240sx and Regular for the gay Altima?

Is it because its NOT the same engine exact engine?

Logic > You

[azndoc]

Iceman00 your gay.

Why because you say drifting suck.

It doesn't suck. You prolly tried drifting your fwd altima and realize you couldn't and that you fail at life so then you want to bash on drifting. Which makes you gay.

[Iceman00]

If its the same engine, then tell me why Nissan would recommend Premium for the 240sx and Regular for the gay Altima?

Is it because its NOT the same engine exact engine?

Logic > You

I'm sorry, your right. My Cam Drives My Dizzy. How could I forget that major difference. Or how about Altima Drivers using 240sx ecu's in thier cars..
(http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/ecm-ecu-tuning/246352-installing-tuning-s14-ecu-97-altima.html)
Or JWT/Crower cams being the same for both Altima's and 240sx's (on 240sx, BC cams have to have the Dizzy drive cut off them for use)
Or that any off the shelf internal part for the 240sx KA works in the Altima.

Yes, completely different engines down to the ecu management my friend.

[Kn1ves]

Altima = FWD. Enough said.

[Iceman00]

Iceman00 your gay.

Why because you say drifting suck.

It doesn't suck. You prolly tried drifting your fwd altima and realize you couldn't and that you fail at life so then you want to bash on drifting. Which makes you gay.
I think you ment you're, like how I know you're an idiot. You cannot prove driftings value to me, or to anyone. Its stupid and pointless. Stop being a Blind bandwagon jumper and realize your Formula Garbage dreams will never come true.

[Iceman00]

Altima = FWD. Enough said.

And? Please. Continue on, I want to see were you are going with this.

[Kn1ves]

LOLOL he's correcting youre language!
hes out to 'humilate' you too!

What is the value of drifting to anyone?
Force manufacturers to create affordable RWD vehicles is one.
Create a booming industry is another.
Having fun aside from going to track is another.
Learning to drive at the limits of the car is of value to some people.
Create competition versus manufacturers to help costs down.

It's funny cause you're benefiting from the 'drifting garbage' with all the parts you're sourcing out from the 240sx's catalog

I don't know, I was able to evaluate drifting and its credibility mighty easily without jumping to the 'drifting is stupid' bandwagon.

PS. With each post you make, you're red squares go up. We all know who the real 'idiot' is. No need for name calling please. Thanks for playing.

[Kn1ves]

And? Please. Continue on, I want to see were you are going with this.

Yea it explains your logic and how you approach drifting.
Most, if not all FWD fanatics think drifting is useless because of the simple fact that they can't do it themselves. Once those same people get a RWD car and learns how to rotate the rear end will scream 'O SHIT IM DRIFTING, THAT WAS TIGHT" the moment it happens. Seen it all too often.

[Iceman00]

What is the value of drifting to anyone?
Force manufacturers to create affordable RWD vehicles is one.
I Want to see these new RWD car made because of the popularity of Drifting

Answer this Question. What car(s) currently in production was made because of Driftings popularity.

[Kn1ves]

And yet everyone is laughing at you.

[Iceman00]

Yea it explains your logic and how you approach drifting.
Most, if not all FWD fanatics think drifting is useless because of the simple fact that they can't do it themselves. Once those same people get a RWD car and learns how to rotate the rear end will scream 'O SHIT IM DRIFTING, THAT WAS TIGHT" the moment it happens. Seen it all too often.

FWD cars can powerslide. While its fun, its a waste of tires unless done correctly. Unlike Drifting which is a waste of tires, and time, no matter what the circumstance.

[Iceman00]

And yet everyone is laughing at you.
Who?
Because I wrongly assumed that 240sx uses regular fuel Like Other cars with the same engine? Right.

I see you have no smart remarks about my simulator run having the cars shift at redline. Or JWT's reasoning for raising the Redline to 1000rpm over Power peak.

Drifting is just another marketing tool for idiots who want to be "JDM" by buying shitty Coil overs, and Overpriced Japanese parts because its "cool"

[CKAMC]

drag racing is boring, drifting teaches one car control with a rwd car and to follow traditional race lines seen in autocross and time attack with rwd cars.

you drive an econobox, not a drag car.

[Kn1ves]

I Want to see these new RWD car made because of the popularity of Drifting
Successor of the AE86?
Silvia successor?
Zilvia even opened up a new forum (http://www.zilvia.net/f/forumdisplay.php?f=85) because of this segment because of all the attention this thread (http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=127041) was getting

Pontiac Solstice thats being campaigned by Pontiac themselves after the GTO?
Even Ford has financial backing in this 'motorsport'.
Dodge with the Vipers?


The Sport Compact Industry was already huge before drifting caught on in the USA
Yea thanks to drifting, its twice the size it was then. How do I know?
Well there are parts being made for your not a sport compact altima.

Fun is subjective. I don't have fun sliding my car around like a jackass.
Fun IS subjective. Thats why I don't drive an Altima.

Learning to drive at the limits would be a track day at your local racetrack, not sliding around in a car with ugly bodykits and shitty suspension setups.

Im not even going to touch that one. It made me LOL too much.

PS. You're at 4 Red Squares now. It means everyone is LOLing at you getting owned.

[Kn1ves]

Who?


I see you have no smart remarks about my simulator run having the cars shift at redline.



LOL that's because I can go outside and drive my car and realize that I'm not getting power above 5.5k.

And I'm not quick to open my mouth about something that I know nothing of.
Im currently looking into the credibility of the program.

[Iceman00]

drag racing is boring, drifting teaches one car control with a rwd car and to follow traditional race lines seen in autocross and time attack with rwd cars.

you drive an econobox, not a drag car.
The 240sx isn't a sports car. It was a economy Car with RWD that got its ass handed to it by more popular cars.

Autocross teaches those same rules as above, but for a more useful, and tangable goal.

[C. Senor]

being that i had a maxima......fwd sucks balls. drifting is fun. i do it every once in a while, i'm more of a grip driver. but letting that rear end out every once in a while is just fun. most car manufacturers recommend premium because car and gas are a business so every one in the business gets a litle help from each other duh. just because a manufacturer recommends premium doesnt mean the car wont run good with 87. hell i know for a fact that porsche's(we all know they have some op notch power motors) run great on 87 although it is recommended to use premium...hell my 89 maxima recommended premium. and from what i read the altima dual cam and the 240 dual cam are the same exact motor. can i see some proof of this please. because call me dumb(well not really) i always though they were different. i was under the impression that i coulnd't put an altima motor in my car with out some rather heavy modifications. because if they just swap i've been wasting my time looking for a rwd ka.

[Kn1ves]

The 240sx isn't a sports car. It was a economy Car with RWD that got its ass handed to it by more popular cars.



Tell that to my insurance company -_-

[Iceman00]

I Want to see these new RWD car made because of the popularity of Drifting
Successor of the AE86?
Silvia successor?
Zilvia even opened up a new forum (http://www.zilvia.net/f/forumdisplay.php?f=85) because of this segment because of all the attention this thread (http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=127041) was getting

Pontiac Solstice thats being campaigned by Pontiac themselves after the GTO?
Even Ford has financial backing in this 'motorsport'.
Dodge with the Vipers?


The Sport Compact Industry was already huge before drifting caught on in the USA
Yea thanks to drifting, its twice the size it was then. How do I know?
Well there are parts being made for your not a sport compact altima.

Fun is subjective. I don't have fun sliding my car around like a jackass.
Fun IS subjective. Thats why I don't drive an Altima.

Learning to drive at the limits would be a track day at your local racetrack, not sliding around in a car with ugly bodykits and shitty suspension setups.

Im not even going to touch that one. It made me LOL too much.

PS. You're at 4 Red Squares now. It means everyone is LOLing at you getting owned.

AGAIN. Name a new RWDD car made because of the popularity of Drifting. I'm asking for just one. Chevys Colbalt SS cleaned house in time Attacks, but I Doubt thats what GM made it for.

As Far as I know, no Aftermarket Parts for my car came about because of Drifting. I dare you to prove otherwise.

[Iceman00]

Tell that to my insurance company -_-
Preludes are also listed as Sports cars, as are most 2 door cars. The 240sx is not, and never has been a Sports car.

[C. Senor]

ummm 240's are seen as sport cars. LOl you're funny there val. oh man and i shift at 5.8k it seems to work the best....rather than shifting at 6.2k just so you know.

[Iceman00]

being that i had a maxima......fwd sucks balls. drifting is fun. i do it every once in a while, i'm more of a grip driver. but letting that rear end out every once in a while is just fun. most car manufacturers recommend premium because car and gas are a business so every one in the business gets a litle help from each other duh. just because a manufacturer recommends premium doesnt mean the car wont run good with 87. hell i know for a fact that porsche's(we all know they have some op notch power motors) run great on 87 although it is recommended to use premium...hell my 89 maxima recommended premium. and from what i read the altima dual cam and the 240 dual cam are the same exact motor. can i see some proof of this please. because call me dumb(well not really) i always though they were different. i was under the impression that i coulnd't put an altima motor in my car with out some rather heavy modifications. because if they just swap i've been wasting my time looking for a rwd ka.

So are you going to argue that the VQ used in the Maxima/Altima isn't the same as the One used in the 350Z/G35, because it cannot be mounted in the chassis. Smart one.

[Iceman00]

ummm 240's are seen as sport cars. LOl you're funny there val. oh man and i shift at 5.8k it seems to work the best....rather than shifting at 6.2k just so you know.
The 350Z is a Sports car, the corvette is a sports car, the 240sx is NOT a sports car.

Sports cars are 2 seat rwd cars. The 240sx is considered a GT car.

[CKAMC]

coilovers are developed in various levels to suit the needs of different drivers and their driving ability. not everyone here is a master of driving but we strive to improve.

if you think this is a jdm craze then why do you own a japanese car? why not go buy a dodge neon? if you pride america so much.

the industry has been influenced. gm made the sky and solstice(sp plz), toyota and just recently nissan have new rumors of rwd cars other than z or lexus models. dodge brought out the magnum and gto(not cheap but more rwd). and ford pushes its pony car like always.

shitty suspension? wow didnt know know tokico was that bad :ugh:

there is quite a few here that participate in time attack and love the quality of their japanese and american made suspension.

why are you still here arguing about your altima? do you understand why some people here setup their suspension?

you speak too much out of your ass about a car you do not own, go back and conduct some reseach, buy a 240 and go road race/time attack.

[C. Senor]

So are you going to argue that the VQ used in the Maxima/Altima isn't the same as the One used in the 350Z/G35, because it cannot be mounted in the chassis. Smart one.

The 350Z is a Sports car, the corvette is a sports car, the 240sx is NOT a sports car.

Sports cars are 2 seat rwd cars. The 240sx is considered a GT car.

can you simply take a motor out from the maxima or altima and just simply swap it into the 350 or g.....if you can then shit i will retract my statement put a public apology and i'll go out and buy a 350 with blown motor for cheap and buy a wrecked maxima for cheap and BAM...cheap 350z....i'd be balling...LOL

and bare with me here....2 seater rwd cars.....so like porsche is not a sports car...because i can doubl check when i go to work tomorrow but i thought that the carrera's and turbo's had a back seat...and i thought they were sports cars....and the 2 door audi s4's....i thought they were sports car and last i checked (again at work) they had a back seat...WOAH total mind blower....s4's and porsche's are not sports cars....i've been lied to.

[CKAMC]

so an mitsubishi evo loses to a chevy cobalt in time attack hands down???????/

[C. Senor]

LOL...this is funny. i just you all to know i'm going to bed laughing....HAHAHA

[Kn1ves]

Man so let's see what we have from you so far.

1) Goes to a 240SX forum and tells a 240SX owner that premium gas is not recommended by Nissan.
- WRONG.

2) Tells 240SX owners that the Altima Engine is the same as the 240SX engine.
- WRONG. Go find me an Altima with a KA24DE from a 240SX, better yet, find me a 240SX with an Altima engine. If they're the same engine, it should be an easy swap, just like how you can swap between an S13 KA24 to an S14 KA24.

3) Disregards the fact that MOTORTREND, a highly respectable magazine was quoted by GRASSROOTS MOTORSPORTS, another respectable magazine, for being CORRECT about shifting the KA24DE early to make the best times.
- FAIL

4) "Drifting is gay" in a 240SX forum?! Does not see the advantages of drifting as a motorsport and as something for the industry to cultivate and grow?
- EPIC FAIL

5) Tells 240SX owners who PAY insurance for a 'SPORTS CAR' by the insurance companies that they don't drive a sports car. How would you know? You don't drive one!
- GO TO THE FAIL BOAT AND SAIL AWAY!

Why do we have to listen to anything you say again?

[jeeper_x]

man, this thread is so damn funny...i hope iceman guy continue to talk out of his ass, so i can laugh some more tmr morning...haha

[Kn1ves]

hahaha poor OP. Well at least he got a 1st hand look at what happens to people who talk out of their ass in this forum.

[CKAMC]

240sx isnt a sports car because it has an inaccessable back seat. my insurance agent said he could label my car a sports coupe/hatch until i remove the backseats then it can be a sports car :keke:

[azndoc]

240sx isnt a sports car because it has an inaccessable back seat. my insurance agent said he could label my car a sports coupe/hatch until i remove the backseats then it can be a sports car :keke:


Damn it and this whole time I thought I was pimping it in a sports car.

Wait I am, there's no backseats, Yay.......

Backseats are gay.

Just like OP.

OP goes pee pee when he go drifting.

Who corrects people's grammers and then spells shit wrong themselves.

What an idiot.

[Farzam]

I bet bare blocks are similar, but I doubt fuel injectors/cams/tuning/etc. are identical.

[DOOK]

this iceman douchebag is an altima fanboy.... nothing worse than that... I bet he dominates at time attack.....................

[nissanguy13]

I think you guys scared the new guy away. (that's all I got to say since everything else has pretty much been covered)

[DOOK]

found a picture of Iceman and thought he deserved an award
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d186/Lilredrover/ASSCLOWN.jpg

[projectRDM]

3 pages, fuck guys.

To the OP, search or leave.

To Iceman, leaving wouldn't do the forum justice. You need to videotape your own suicide so we know you're dead and can enjoy it for years to come. Before you do though, go back to your fag pals at NICO and tell them you got your ass handed to you for trying to prove the retarded shit they spew over there.

[racepar1]

1. The Altima uses the same Engine as the 240sx Dumbass.
2. Drifting is worthless.
3. I Told you if you can prove otherwise, I'd eat my words. And I do. Nissan Recommends premium fuel in the 240sx.
4. I didn't fabracte those numbers. And Until you can come up with anything better, I'm going to continue to regard you as an idiot.


It is not the same engine just because it uses the same block dumbass. The altima has different cams, probably different compression (not 100%sure on that one), different intake manifold, and different fuel and timing curves in the ecm.

[silviapilot]

Welcome to Zilvia :love:
You will find a plethora of knowledge using the search feature.

[TUnity2]

i bet ice man couldn't drive his way out of a paper bag! HA!

http://www.ieatpaint.com/topgun/gayiceman.jpg

[coreansurfer]

As Far as I know, no Aftermarket Parts for my car came about because of Drifting. I dare you to prove otherwise.

no aftermarket parts came out for your gay ass car because:
a. no one gives a FUCK about altimas.
b. fwd pieces of crap like yours can't drift.

the fact that you would come on a 240 forum, and talk shit still baffles me.

you're a douchebag.

[cxlo8331]

Thanks for the laughs...

[cwd240]

1. YOU will be faster shifting at redline. Even with power Dropping at 5600rpm, shifting at redline will drop you right back at around 4600rpm or so. You cannot Disagree that this is the fastest way of accleration.

2. Drifting IS Stupid.

3. Nissan recommends regular gasoline. Using anything else, and your wasting your money, and hurting your fuel economy. JWT's Ecu bumps up the timing maps so you can take advantage of higher octane, unlike with the stock Ecu.

I'm right, your wrong. Faggots.


Sounds like someone had a nice warm cup of assholery this morning :keke:

[Andrew Bohan]

jesus christ how is this thread still open

[itachi688]

well thanks for answering my question Kn1ves. ill be shifting at 5500 for track n such and 3 for streets.

[timlush]

Sports cars are 2 seat rwd cars.

The Mclaren F1 has TWO backseats!

STFU you fucking idiot.

[yarou]

^Is that one exception even worth pointing out? I'm not defending iceman here but I don't think that was even necessary rofl. Someone lock this thread, looks like the OP got his answers

[DOOK]

The Mclaren F1 has TWO backseats!

STFU you fucking idiot.

technically it's not a passenger cabin however, it's a cockpit :D

[thejapino]

And because I thive on making others look like the pieces of shit they are, I went ahead and downloaded Cartest 4.5 (a free download here http://www.cartestsoftware.com/cartest4.5/index.html)

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/7475/windt5.png (http://imageshack.us)
Shot at 2007-08-16

I ran 3 different types of 240sx's.
Default, Shift at Redline, and Shift at power peak. Guess which one had the best accleration?

Time to 100ft
Redline 240sx (shifting at 6500rpm) 3.3
Default 240sx (shifting at optimum shift points) 3.3
Pre-Redline 240sx (shifting at 5500rpm) 3.4

Time to 500ft
Redline 240sx (shifting at 6500rpm) 8.9
Default 240sx (shifting at optimum shift points) 8.9
Pre-Redline 240sx (shifting at 5500rpm) 9.1

1/4mile time
Redline 240sx (shifting at 6500rpm) 16.4 @ 85.4mph <----WINNER
Default 240sx (shifting at optimum shift points) 16.4 @ 84.9mph
Pre-Redline 240sx (shifting at 5500rpm) 16.8 @ 84.2mph

You're a piece of shit, and your wrong.

He's not even a time attack racer, he's a PROGRAM RACER!!!

[Iceman00]

First:
Define Sports car for me!
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_do_insurance_companies_define_sports_cars (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_do_insurance_companies_define_sports_cars)

Calling the 240sx a sports car deludes those words as a whole, and Adds cars like the Camaro, Mustang, and G35 to the definition. The 240sx is considered a GT car (as is the 911 Turbo) having more than 2 seats.

http://www.answers.com/GT%20car

Calling the Altima an Economy car is also correct, considering the size determines it’s a midsize car. If you base it on engine, than you risk putting the 240sx in the same category. So what is it?

Next

“What is the value of drifting to anyone?
Force manufacturers to create affordable RWD vehicles is one.”
I want to see this new RWD car made because of the popularity of Drifting
Answer this Question. What car(s) currently in production was made because of drifting popularity? The Solstice and Sky were not made because of Drifting; they were put into drifting as advertisement. Nothing more. And until you can PROVE that these cars came about because of this “motor sport” I will continue to point out how much of an idiot you are.

“can you simply take a motor out from the maxima or altima and just simply swap it into the 350 or g.....if you can then shit i will retract my statement put a public apology and i'll go out and buy a 350 with blown motor for cheap and buy a wrecked maxima for cheap and BAM...cheap 350z....i'd be balling...LOL”

Internals and Parts can be interchanged between the two. Of course FWD to RWD layout plays a role, but you are a complete idiot if you believe that the 4th generation VQ in the G35 Sedan is different than the 4th generation VQ in the Altima/Maxima. Just the same, the Block casting for the Ka is different, but they are in fact, the same motor. I even posted proof of someone using a 240sx ECU in an Altima, Altimas using the same aftermarket camshafts as 240sx, and internals.

so an mitsubishi evo loses to a chevy cobalt in time attack hands down???????/

Well, according to your friends here, the because the Cobalt was used in Time Attack, it was obviously MADE solely based on doing that. And yes, The Cobalt cleaned house, even beating the GT-R and an Evo. Eat it.
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22048&highlight=time+attack (http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22048&highlight=time+attack)

http://www.autoblog.com/2005/11/30/cobalt-ss-supercharged-creams-competition-at-toyo-tires-time/ (http://www.autoblog.com/2005/11/30/cobalt-ss-supercharged-creams-competition-at-toyo-tires-time/)
Lap times:
http://www.superstreetonline.com/eventcoverage/130_0511_timeattack/ (http://www.superstreetonline.com/eventcoverage/130_0511_timeattack/)

“3) Disregards the fact that MOTORTREND, a highly respectable magazine was quoted by GRASSROOTS MOTORSPORTS, another respectable magazine, for being CORRECT about shifting the KA24DE early to make the best times.
- FAIL”

I ran a Simulator, and PROVED that shifting at redline is fastest. All you came up with was an old Article that is not even relevant. Know why?

Motortrend and Grassroots weren’t even talking about the KA24DE in that article, but in Fact the SOHC version! Read it again. Idiot.

Like I said, I’m right you’re wrong.

[S14DB]

well thanks for answering my question Kn1ves. ill be shifting at 5500 for track n such and 3 for streets.

ok, question answered. The rest can STFU now.