best & worst suspension to get for $1000

[RUTH'LESSDET]

EXPLAIN WHY!!! IT IS THE BEST OR WORST SUSPENSION FOR THE $1000

Hey I basically need some help picking suspension for my daily driven automatic S14(gonna do a manual swap sooner or later). obviously I'm not a drifter so I'm not looking for some super stiff suspension and I live in NYC (we have the worst roads in the world). I was planning on going with megan streets but I was told that they weren't that good. and kinda stiff. I was also told for the $ I was gonna spend (originally $850) that D2's would be the best bang for buck and more adjustable. I was on another forum and was told D2's were too stiff for daily drive and that everybody with d2's and megan's are "upgrading " to stance. As far as I can see everybody is raving about stance now. my question; is the D2 coilover really that stiff ? do you think I should get it? I need help!!!....oh yeah I forgot to add that I ordered the d2's today so I wanna know if I should switch to something else?

[SexPanda]

If its a dd and you live on shitty roads dont bother with coilovers. Get some nice shocks and some springs. Tokico makes some good shit, and for somewhat reasonable prices.

[KA-T_240]

What he said. if you complain about road on stock suspension. you will hate life if you have coilovers, not matter what they are. If you do not plan to track/race the car, unless you want to be totally hardcore slammed, IMO its not worth the money for coilovers. you can get kyb's with tien drop springs for under $400.

I have stances, I like them, they are stiff, alot stiffer then stock. I have nothing to compair them with, nobody else in my area has coilovers on a 240.

[JDMClifford]

rims and tires would be the best bang for the buck.

[dops13]

KTS coilovers.

[OBEEWON]

I agree with SexPanda, I go to NY often to visit family (Queens/Bronx), and whenever possible I drive my stock suspension S14. I plan to NEVER drive my coil-overed one into the city again. Its bad enough in Philadelphia. Springs and struts are the best idea. Just look for ones that give you the desired drop. KYB's are adjustable dampening, Tokico best value IMO.

[420sx]

you guys are pussies.

but for 1k :
kts or megans ( hate to suggest but they are ok)

[iyceman]

Having driven a lot in NYC I'm gonna second the spring/strut combo. Coil-overs are pretty stiff (and uneccessary unless you're tracking your ride) on normal roads, having them in NYC is just asking to give all your money to a chiropractor.

[unicoladron]

yeah really, you sound like old men with hemroids...coils are the shit, i'm from the freaking pothole capital of the world and i have no complains when using coils, i like stiff rides, and it really is based on personal preference. if you like to sway alot and 4x4 status, stick with reg dampters and whatever springs. if you like to granular adjustability, go with coilovers, you can pick up a used set, and you can rebuild if they're leaking, call the manufacturer.

[fromxtor]

Konis w/ GC coils
http://www.240edge.com/performance/shocks-koni_small.jpg
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http://www.floridasr20s.com/4coils.jpg
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http://speeds.streetracing.org/pic01/shock.jpg

[loosesocksdiff]

stance gr sports

[ZX88]

get coilovers and run them on the softest setting i live in jersey and the roads are horrible i had springs and shocks and they blew in less than a year of normal driving. i also had sportlines and agx's so that might have been the problem as well. get coils and learn to avoid potholes.

[bigOdom1]

Konis w/ GC coils
http://www.240edge.com/performance/shocks-koni_small.jpg
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http://www.floridasr20s.com/4coils.jpg
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http://speeds.streetracing.org/pic01/shock.jpg

QFT same thing i have its the way to go

[Shadytrixta1]

Powered by max FTW! be a man!

[DP_Michelle G]

For that price you can get Bc racing coilovers (there not buddy clubs) And there way better then the magens

[steve shadows]

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb129/shadowerks/HPIM1330.jpg

[RUTH'LESSDET]

well i m definitely going for coilovers because on my sil80 I had kyb agx and its just not sexy enuff.... does anyone have D2 coilovers, if so how are they

[altalti]

i have d2's i like them pretty stiff ride you just need to become really good at dodging holes and dips. i say go for the d2's if you dont want a strut spring combo.

[RanciD]

Konis w/ GC coils
http://www.240edge.com/performance/shocks-koni_small.jpg
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http://www.floridasr20s.com/4coils.jpg
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http://speeds.streetracing.org/pic01/shock.jpg

For $1000 this is your best option by far. Whatever spring rates you want, height adjustability and some capable dampers. KTS are trash. D2 are trash. Haven't seen Stance on a dyno but they're probably trash. Good suspension isn't cheap, there's a reason all the 400,000 way adjustable JDM coilovers are only $1000. Because they are trash. What good is all that adjustability when the rebound adjuster makes more change to compression than rebound? What good is having all that adjustment when you HAVE to run full soft just so the insane compression is *somewhat* reasonable. It's useless. Get the konis!:bite:

[Full-Lock]

kts..

stance if you want to spend just a bit more. i have also heard good things about the 'powered by max' coilovers and im pretty sure those are around the 1k mark.

i didnt read your post, but i saw 'd2'...i dont know if your considering them, but dont get them, they are garbage.

megan
d2
junk

[mRclARK1]

D2's are pretty stiff. I have mine set at the softest setting and daily driving is still pretty bumpy... but roads are shit to the extreme where I live. :fawk:

D2's are ok for the money you spend, they work. They're not trash like some people say, but they're not the greatest coilover out there. They're about middle of the road. I wouldn't recommend them though on the fact of there customer service is total shit. My friend bought some new (I got mine used. :P).... and they were totally inept at replacing a damaged part, they DID eventually get it to him... just took over 2 months.

[RUTH'LESSDET]

everybody is saying d2 is bad (except people that have them) isn't D2 a major manufacturer for greddy,stance,kts, etc??? are they really that bad. I've ridin in four different coilovers this weekend (BC'S-s13,TEIN HA'S-s14,TANABES-s13 don't remember which one's. all 8k,6k) they all felt the same to me except bc's felt a little stiffer because the car was set for drifting. I didn't mind the ride on any but the bc were turn up to the highest setting with a ats 2way diff...wow!!! that was a bit much for me

kts..

stance if you want to spend just a bit more. i have also heard good things about the 'powered by max' coilovers and im pretty sure those are around the 1k mark.

i didnt read your post, but i saw 'd2'...i dont know if your considering them, but dont get them, they are garbage.

megan
d2
junk

[RUTH'LESSDET]

that's next...and this is why I don't want agx because my fitment has to be right

rims and tires would be the best bang for the buck.

[Ricky240sx]

hey court, get eibach sport and kybagx.. best bang for buck and 2and change drop
180 for springs and 3 for shocks
labor diy

[Psycho 240 Freak]

All coilovers are going to be stiff. The only people I see complaining that coilovers are too stiff for the street are the ones who don't have them. Since you already got the D2's, I say stick with them. I like my Stance and can't complain about them.

[AceInHole]

KTS are trash. D2 are trash. Haven't seen Stance on a dyno but they're probably trash.
The Stance dyno plot was basically a D2 plot. I'm still pretty convinced they're the same internally.

Get the konis!:bite:
Koni Yellows have better damping than any of the "jdm" crap. The rears on my car are holding up to 8kg/mm springs, and I've driven through NYC on them (my fronts are custom 8611's). yellows with a 6kg/ 4kg (350lbs / 225 lbs) setup would be great.

[steve shadows]

The Stance dyno plot was basically a D2 plot. I'm still pretty convinced they're the same internally.


Koni Yellows have better damping than any of the "jdm" crap. The rears on my car are holding up to 8kg/mm springs, and I've driven through NYC on them (my fronts are custom 8611's). yellows with a 6kg/ 4kg (350lbs / 225 lbs) setup would be great.

yeah I went with a 300 rear and 400 front on my setup, Im thinking it might be a little too stiff, but i run the AGXs at full stiff right now and they are holding up and car is solid and not that bad on the street unless you hit some major pot holes.

Im looking forward to going with the yellows but I need to pick up a clutch type lsd before that (ive got an engine on the stand looking at me with puppy dog eyes for pis/rods too).

[fromxtor]

^^ Speaking of the yellow/GC combo, I need a set of the GCs in 8/7(400/350lbs) anyone know where to get these for a good price?

[rotation3x]

I had megan street coils .... they rode good!! set at 12 stiff for dd. For track days or aggresive driving I put them stiff as they go. I put a set of d2's on a altima and they seemed alot stiffer than my megans but it was a trailor queen show car, and didnt drive it.

[hellion240sx]

powered by max is around 1000 lol but they come with 10/8 springs :D

[Nikeboy355]

I would run stock suspension on any car I drive in NY and have a track/fun car on the side...

Aftermarket coilover suspension just isn't designed for or will last as long driving on crappy roads... And it isn't fun so what's the point?...

[RanciD]

^^ Speaking of the yellow/GC combo, I need a set of the GCs in 8/7(400/350lbs) anyone know where to get these for a good price?

Springs or the whole assembly? They're out of S13 tophats right now (waiting for mine right now :( ) but told me they should be shipping by the end of the week. PM me a way to contact you off board if you need some.

[240esux]

im running apexi coils, and i wouldnt ever go back to a lowering spring setup. but then again i wouldnt settle for D2's. but then again you get what you pay for. my buddy had D2's and they are shitty. and your right there service sucks ass. just save up and get some good ones so you save money in the long run

[redZENKI]

Love my Stance, and only cost just a little over 1k. That was for the GR+ Pro's.

[hellion240sx]

trying to get in touch with pbm now!!!!

[RUTH'LESSDET]

that's what I'm gonna do...when I had my s13 normal driving I had blown out my agx's.

I'm selling a pair of eibach sportline springs...pm if interested

get coilovers and run them on the softest setting i live in jersey and the roads are horrible i had springs and shocks and they blew in less than a year of normal driving. i also had sportlines and agx's so that might have been the problem as well. get coils and learn to avoid potholes.

[cwd240]

I don't agree with everyone saying the D2's are trash, but they are definitely not the greatest either. I have them on my car and they are incredibly stiff, even on the softest setting, but they definitely are a blast to drive on. Customer service also isn't the greatest but if you contact hopup racing they will give you a number that got a pretty fast response for me.


Any set of coils you get at this price will have their flaws.

[steve shadows]

powered by max is around 1000 lol but they come with 10/8 springs :D

I guess tahts cool for drifting.

But still springs = shit grip handling imho.

I like the car to be somewhat nuetral not twitchy at all.

But i guess for drifting you want twitchy and rough.

I like softer spring rates with good quality dampers if I have the choice.

Bracing the car and tire compound changes will yeild a more predictable driver friendly handling characteristic.

[hellion240sx]

well I'm think if you set if to the softest setting then you should be ok. thats my guess.

[RUTH'LESSDET]

thanx for th replies every one sorry my replies are a bit delayed as I'm posting from my treo. Does anything about know if D2 is a manufacturer for greddy,Stance,KTS,ETC??


Appreciate this post
I don't agree with everyone saying the D2's are trash, but they are definitely not the greatest either. I have them on my car and they are incredibly stiff, even on the softest setting, but they definitely are a blast to drive on. Customer service also isn't the greatest but if you contact hopup racing they will give you a number that got a pretty fast response for me.


Any set of coils you get at this price will have their flaws.

[DP_Michelle G]

thanx for th replies every one sorry my replies are a bit delayed as I'm posting from my treo. Does anything about know if D2 is a manufacturer for greddy,Stance,KTS,ETC??


Appreciate this post


This is what i was told Bc racing makes the coilovers for megan,greddy some Hks coils and a few other companys in japan.

And D2 makes ksports and I think dmax and most likely even more.

It's all about who has the most money for the best part just because it's says made in japan in most cases it's really not thats the way it is now

[glitched]

What about nismo? NObody mentioned nismo yet....

the cheaper nismo ones werent adjustable and low enough for me, but might be a better idea for a daily driver...

[RUTH'LESSDET]

so basically its all the same sh*t just re-packaged and a different colors lol

This is what i was told Bc racing makes the coilovers for megan,greddy some Hks coils and a few other companys in japan.

And D2 makes ksports and I think dmax and most likely even more.

It's all about who has the most money for the best part just because it's says made in japan in most cases it's really not thats the way it is now

[hellion240sx]

i asked


Quote:
Originally Posted by hellion240sx View Post
so you would only recommend these for drifting and no grip/ auto/ road racing?


he answered


I would defenately recommend all of the MAX competition suspension parts for grip because drift or grip you need to eliminate as much of the OEM unpredictability as possible to drive fast and safe. With the addition of the MAX competition suspension parts, drivers inputs are performed by the machine precisely. The adjustability available in the multilink parts and coilovers let you fine tune the balance that is right for you between dramatically increased grip and instant oversteer.


took me a min to find that +1 for me hope that helps :D

[Iceman00]

It seems like the OP has made up his mind, and Prefers to Buy shit, over quality parts.

http://www.b15sentra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=148740
Check that for some insight on Ksport Vs Koni/GC

I can sum it up for you though.

Koni/Gc are better.

[backroadtouge]

i love the ride with my Greddy coils on and off the track! i daily my car and the greddy coils ride really smooth (for a coilover) i got mine for 1k

[max2damax]

might as well just put some lub in your seat, cause your car is going to rape you in ways you've never imagine with those spring rates :spank: :keke:

powered by max is around 1000 lol but they come with 10/8 springs :D

[RUTH'LESSDET]

I spoke to the guy that sells the MAX coils forget about it ! very stiff!!!!!!!!

might as well just put some lub in you seat, cause you car is going to rape you in ways you've never imagine with those spring rates :spank: :keke:

[pinkarrowsnow]

Yeah I have MAX coilovers and they deffinatly aren't too friendly for daily driving.

[hellion240sx]

might as well just put some lub in you seat, cause you car is going to rape you in ways you've never imagine with those spring rates :spank: :keke:




you mean that in a good way right? lol.


awww come on RUTH'LESSDET you can do eeett! don't be skerd.


hey pink arrow what are your setting?

[aznpoopy]

only locals know what nyc is really like
i wouldn't drive my car into NYC ever

nismo coilovers are quality. ride quality is amazing, even over bumpy ass nj/ny roads. problem is they don't let you go all that low. they might be a good choice for you, because you won't be able to go that low anyway.

i suggest staying stock and getting that 5spd done instead

[ixfxi]

i dont understand why there is so much discussion over COILOVER vs SHOCK/SPRING combo.. it comes down to only a few things:

1) You want the adjustability in ride height, or you dont
2) You want the adjustability in stiffness, or you dont

For me, I *rarely* need to every adjust the ride height OR stiffness. The nice thing about coilovers, is that you CAN.. should you need or desire to.

However, I would think its a LOT more important to buy a well-engineered product, than it is to buy one that is shitty and fully adjustable. So regardless of what you buy, make sure its good quality. The last thing you want to do is drive on shitty quality suspension components.

One of my cars has Tein shocks/springs, they're so-so - dont like it too much. My other car had Tokico shocks w/ lowering springs, I loved it.. even when driven through downtown LA roads. Now, that car has Whiteline coilovers, and I like those a lot too.

[pinkarrowsnow]

you mean that in a good way right? lol.


awww come on RUTH'LESSDET you can do eeett! don't be skerd.


hey pink arrow what are your setting?

Im running all the way soft on all four corners cause thats what dan from MAX said for daily driving because of how stiff they are, hopefully I can try them on some different settings though soon. But yeah for everyday driving just use them on the softest setting.

[inertiaticism]

I'm pretty happy with my Koni Yellows, but I want to go MUCH lower than GC sleeves would allow me to and I'm not going to front about it and say that I want something else for another reason.
I might just see about getting my Konis revalved/shortened and running shorter free length springs on GCs because I'm quite happy with the way it drives as is.

However, I don't think that Konis/GCs are as awesome of a setup as some do.
Limited adjustability, sleeve/damper construction, and the price is steep for what you get.
You're in the same pricepoint at cheap coilovers for just the sleeves and dampers but if you end up having them revalved or buying more than one set of springs you could get some very nice stuff for the same price.
I only have mine because I got a good deal on them used.

[Iceman00]

I'm running GC coils (350lb F/400lb R) with Tockio HP blues. Rebound could be better, and it is stiff, but it works well, and provides a really good ride.

[MrChow]

hey ruthlessdet do some research on these (http://www.tanabe-usa.com/coilovers/s-ocII.asp). If you want something cheaper there are these (http://www.tanabe-usa.com/coilovers/s-ocII.asp).

There what get if I wanted what you wanted. Hope that helps.

[RUTH'LESSDET]

Five speed will come in due time the last car i had i did all power stuff but the car had no looks....im getting rims and i cant put them on that TRUCK:nono: my car is so high in the front. Needs a drop my last car had kyb agx and sportlines....NEVER AGAIN!!!
old car---------------------------------------------->same car!! different color and different size rims
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid130/p9439c20a7727dc93d0b3b48eca2b28bc/f7c1679c.jpg.orig.jpghttp://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid147/pfc82a8b8e102f88bd60615a687141b2e/f6369a15.jpg
new car
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/ruthlessdet/jdm%20bumper/IMG_4639.jpg

only locals know what nyc is really like
i wouldn't drive my car into NYC ever

nismo coilovers are quality. ride quality is amazing, even over bumpy ass nj/ny roads. problem is they don't let you go all that low. they might be a good choice for you, because you won't be able to go that low anyway.

i suggest staying stock and getting that 5spd done instead

[RUTH'LESSDET]

Ok the tanabe suspension i rode in this week in an s13 was one of these if im not mistaken the ride was ok stiff but not too bad. The guy that im going to order my coilovers from, Daily drives his s13 with these coils says that the d2 are better.

http://www.tanabe-usa.com/images/Coilovers/SusProSOCII.jpg



hey ruthlessdet do some research on these (http://www.tanabe-usa.com/coilovers/s-ocII.asp). If you want something cheaper there are these (http://www.tanabe-usa.com/coilovers/s-ocII.asp).

There what get if I wanted what you wanted. Hope that helps.

[RUTH'LESSDET]

Come on a coilover dyno!!!!:tweak: im not a machine thats not too helpful for me at this point. Post up a dyno of stance, d2, tein (what ever), tanabe, vs koni/gc that would be better.

It seems like the OP has made up his mind, and Prefers to Buy shit, over quality parts.

http://www.b15sentra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=148740
Check that for some insight on Ksport Vs Koni/GC

I can sum it up for you though.

Koni/Gc are better.

[t . b o z]

I live in the "armpit" of the south, Memphis, TN...where the city doesn't spend any money on roads or transportation, but rather on illigitimate pension plans and keeping crooked politicians and law enforcement officials on the payroll. (Im not lying).

Needless to say, the roads suck ASS. More than a handful of backroads in my area arn't even paved. Coilovers are not that bad people...I mean c'mon, are you guys 80 years old or something? I used to drive a little Integra around with 12k front, 10k rear coilovers, and it wasn't that bad.

[Iceman00]

Come on a coilover dyno!!!!:tweak: im not a machine thats not too helpful for me at this point. Post up a dyno of stance, d2, tein (what ever), tanabe, vs koni/gc that would be better.

Did you even read the thread, or the links provided in it? Lower end Coilovers are Lower priced for a reason. They suck.

Get Konis and GC's and shut the fuck up.

[longdy]

powered by max is around 1000 lol but they come with 10/8 springs :D

there nice ass hell but your liver is going to pay the price for the stiffness.. lol:)

[Aoshi112]

As per Dennis Grant: "Where there's no Bilstein fitment and Penskes are too expensive, Konis are usually perfectly adaquate. They are, by far, the best budget shock and better than any of the crap coming out of Japan. JIC, GAB, Tokiko, Tein - synonyms for "crap"."


http://farnorthracing.com/autocross_secrets6.html

Can't go wrong with the GC/Koni setup. I actually emailed Dave Coleman and he suggested the GC/Koni setup to me for something on a budget.

-Jason

[irax]

WTF why is everyone suggesting good suspension?

just go with Tein coilovers, like their basic model. Everyone on zilvia complains that they are too soft for daildrift or weekend worrior. but for daily driver for something that wants it a little low. they tein basics would be the best bet and the price you want to spend.


dont bother with
Powered By Max, BECAUSE THEY BUILD THEIR SHIT FOR DRIFTING! NOT PARKING HARD!

[EDacIouSX]

if you want better comfort... wider wheels help and some good shock/spring combo or a good set of coilovers that dampen well. Basically for wide wheels.. it will make it so your tires don't fall into holes as much. it's wider so the hole has to be wider for the wheel to fall in therefore you don't feel as many of the holes in the ground when you roll over them (i live in l.a., holes everywhere). For coilovers/spring+shocks you want something that dampens well. The stiffness of the spring isn't important as much as how well the shocks dampen with the type of spring it's using.

[Iceman00]

As per Dennis Grant: "Where there's no Bilstein fitment and Penskes are too expensive, Konis are usually perfectly adaquate. They are, by far, the best budget shock and better than any of the crap coming out of Japan. JIC, GAB, Tokiko, Tein - synonyms for "crap"."


http://farnorthracing.com/autocross_secrets6.html

Can't go wrong with the GC/Koni setup. I actually emailed Dave Coleman and he suggested the GC/Koni setup to me for something on a budget.

-Jason

I posted pretty much the same thing, and he continues to ignore it. He's just waiting for someone to say something nice enough about cheap shit coilover systems, so he can justify buying one.

[aznpoopy]

Needless to say, the roads suck ASS. More than a handful of backroads in my area arn't even paved. Coilovers are not that bad people...I mean c'mon, are you guys 80 years old or something? I used to drive a little Integra around with 12k front, 10k rear coilovers, and it wasn't that bad.

have you ever been to nyc

its not about comfort at all

its about breaking shit

[hellion240sx]

I live in the "armpit" of the south, Memphis, TN...where the city doesn't spend any money on roads or transportation, but rather on illigitimate pension plans and keeping crooked politicians and law enforcement officials on the payroll. (Im not lying).

Needless to say, the roads suck ASS.

um ditto but i live in New Orleans! pot holes down here own you!

there nice ass hell but your liver is going to pay the price for the stiffness.. lol:)


heh drink more water and walk it off! lol.


to the op: so what are you looking at now? you have your options. we have answered your question what more information are you loooking for? :D

[scarecrow27]

dg5 > all else

[mRclARK1]

Did you even read the thread, or the links provided in it? Lower end Coilovers are Lower priced for a reason. They suck.

Get Konis and GC's and shut the fuck up.

How about you let him buy whatever he wants, and you shut the fuck up?

I like that idea.

It's his money, and since he probably just street drives his car, cheap coilovers will do the job.

As per Dennis Grant: "Where there's no Bilstein fitment and Penskes are too expensive, Konis are usually perfectly adaquate. They are, by far, the best budget shock and better than any of the crap coming out of Japan. JIC, GAB, Tokiko, Tein - synonyms for "crap"."


http://farnorthracing.com/autocross_secrets6.html

Can't go wrong with the GC/Koni setup. I actually emailed Dave Coleman and he suggested the GC/Koni setup to me for something on a budget.

-Jason

If all the products coming out of Japan are "crap"... why do they work for MANY people using them in competitive racing? A friend of mine has Tein coilovers (don't remember which) on his car, and he tracks his car often. He's had the Tein's for at least a couple years now, and his teins outlasted his brothers Koni shocks. I'm not saying Koni, or the brands mentioned (Bilstein etc.) are crap, but it comes down to WHAT type of driving you want to do, and how the suspension is tuned and even what quality of roads it's used on.

[RanciD]

How about you let him buy whatever he wants, and you shut the fuck up?

I like that idea.

It's his money, and since he probably just street drives his car, cheap coilovers will do the job.



If all the products coming out of Japan are "crap"... why do they work for MANY people using them in competitive racing? A friend of mine has Tein coilovers (don't remember which) on his car, and he tracks his car often. He's had the Tein's for at least a couple years now, and his teins outlasted his brothers Koni shocks. I'm not saying Koni, or the brands mentioned (Bilstein etc.) are crap, but it comes down to WHAT type of driving you want to do, and how the suspension is tuned and even what quality of roads it's used on.

No matter what type of driving you do poor dampers are poor dampers. :-/ Yeah, they do work for plenty of people, especially drifters who want something ridiculously stiff and don't care if the shock is doing its job further than that or not. Most people also do not know enough to realize they're garbage or even use the adjustability further than full soft for daily driving. It's easy to put on some coilovers, say "hey my car is a lot stiffer this is great!", then come here and post some bullshit expert opinion how they're awesome which every clueless noob will take as the word of god himself. What advantage does a set of $1000 coilovers have over a Koni/GC setup in any situation? With the konis he will have a smoother ride, custom spring rates and better performance on and off the track. I'll trade some useless knobs and JDM bling for that any day.

[RUTH'LESSDET]

Hey guy your getting a little emotional dont ya think. I understand that the setup your talking about is better...but my current problem is I already ordered the d2's (got them very cheap) I will be picking them up tomorrow...but I may just exchange them for something else (i.e koni/gc, stance) so calm down with the internet thugg'n guy its not that serious I appreciate the info you gave me on the koni setup....and all the info everybody else is posting.

Did you even read the thread, or the links provided in it? Lower end Coilovers are Lower priced for a reason. They suck.

Get Konis and GC's and shut the fuck up.

[DP_Michelle G]

dg5 > all else

do you even have these? I didn't think they sold state side yet

[RUTH'LESSDET]

This guy seems to think everybody is a drifter (iceman)or a racer i am neither furthermore the car is automatic right now...in the future maybe some autox, but that it. lets get back to the topic best and worst suspension setups for 1000 and WHY?

How about you let him buy whatever he wants, and you shut the fuck up?

I like that idea.

It's his money, and since he probably just street drives his car, cheap coilovers will do the job.



If all the products coming out of Japan are "crap"... why do they work for MANY people using them in competitive racing? A friend of mine has Tein coilovers (don't remember which) on his car, and he tracks his car often. He's had the Tein's for at least a couple years now, and his teins outlasted his brothers Koni shocks. I'm not saying Koni, or the brands mentioned (Bilstein etc.) are crap, but it comes down to WHAT type of driving you want to do, and how the suspension is tuned and even what quality of roads it's used on.

[AceInHole]

If all the products coming out of Japan are "crap"... why do they work for MANY people using them in competitive racing?

Not trying to be a dick... but who's using any JDM coilover in competitive racing, and define competitive racing? Are you talking Spec Miata or Formula one? Or like... a weekend track day or autocross.....

I tried to find some first hand experience when re-sorting out my setup, but found NO ONE. Sasha from Sequence Garage is on Stance, and that's about it (although he'd probably gain from swapping to Bilsteins or Konis).

it comes down to WHAT type of driving you want to do, and how the suspension is tuned and even what quality of roads it's used on.
Honestly, most JDM coilovers seem to have very linear curves (D2/Stance/KSport/etc included). Koni Yellows/ Bilsteins are a lot more digressive, which allows for better low speed shock control (i.e. transitional movement) without sacrificing performance over bumps or irregular surfaces (which results in more traction, and the essence of what makes a great shock absorber). There's a few plots posted on Honda Tech at http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1104049&page=1 , and a few other plots scattered across the web.

[t . b o z]

have you ever been to nyc

its not about comfort at all

its about breaking shit

pay attention and dodge them!

NYC can't be any worse than Memphis..possibly the most neglected city in this region. You would think an international hub and main port off of the Mississippi River would at least LOOK more prosperous. hahah.

Anywho, I've just been careful..there are some you just cant avoid. So thats when you grip the wheel tight, squeeze your ass cheecks tight, and clench your teeth..then pray for the best.

[timlush]

So how low can you go with Koni/GC setup?

[drift freaq]

So how low can you go with Koni/GC setup?

that would depend on if you shortened the strut housing and went with a Koni short stroke insert. With a Stock height Koni Yellow/GC(i.e. Koni app for our cars) setup you would not want to take the car lower than 2 inches though the collars would allow lower than 2 inches you would be out of the optimum stroke range of a Koni Yellow made specifically for our cars.

Now if you took a short stroke Koni Yellow installed in a shortened housing with GC's you would have one sick ass supension setup. Of course at that point your costs are starting to rise for the custom work. This is where the average Joe opts out for a pre assembled coilover setup.
If you don't want to overly slam your car though a Normal Koni/GC setup would probably run around $800-900.

[Iceman00]

This guy seems to think everybody is a drifter (iceman)or a racer i am neither furthermore the car is automatic right now...in the future maybe some autox, but that it. lets get back to the topic best and worst suspension setups for 1000 and WHY?
I think Drifting is shit. Don't associate it with me in any way. I'm pissed because you made a thread asking questions, and when you don't get the answers you want to hear, you cover your ears and ignore our advice. Why start this thread if you knew you were going to buy shit in the first place?

[mRclARK1]

No matter what type of driving you do poor dampers are poor dampers. :-/ Yeah, they do work for plenty of people, especially drifters who want something ridiculously stiff and don't care if the shock is doing its job further than that or not. Most people also do not know enough to realize they're garbage or even use the adjustability further than full soft for daily driving. It's easy to put on some coilovers, say "hey my car is a lot stiffer this is great!", then come here and post some bullshit expert opinion how they're awesome which every clueless noob will take as the word of god himself. What advantage does a set of $1000 coilovers have over a Koni/GC setup in any situation? With the konis he will have a smoother ride, custom spring rates and better performance on and off the track. I'll trade some useless knobs and JDM bling for that any day.

Yeah, crappy dampers are crappy dampers. You get what you pay for. Most people complain that coilovers are to stiff, but for people like me, who LIKE a stiff feeling car, and track it as well as drive on the streets, they're fine. I've drifted (yes I drift... on a track for fun... so kill me. lol) on shock/spring setups, and I prefer the stiffer feeling that coilovers provide. I currently run D2's on my car, they work and do the job, but I know they aren't top of the line by any stretch. They'll work until I can afford something better.

Also, you can order most coilovers with whatever spring rate(s) you want.

This guy seems to think everybody is a drifter (iceman)or a racer i am neither furthermore the car is automatic right now...in the future maybe some autox, but that it. lets get back to the topic best and worst suspension setups for 1000 and WHY?

I don't think everyone is a drifter. I don't see the point however of putting thousands of dollars into a car for performance, and it NEVER touches the race track. Be it for WHATEVER type of racing you enjoy.

Not trying to be a dick... but who's using any JDM coilover in competitive racing, and define competitive racing? Are you talking Spec Miata or Formula one? Or like... a weekend track day or autocross.....

Depends what kind of racing you're talking about. Most, or at least the largest percentage, of people on this forum are into drifting. So that's mainly what I meant. My bad though... I should have been more specific. I'm sure that most Japanese drift racers are using some form of JDM coilover setups, and that's working for them just fine obviously. For the weekend track car/DD driver, most cheaper coilover setups will do the job. Just as long as you don't mind the stiffer/bumpier ride on the streets that comes with coilovers.

This is just turning into a coilover vs. spring/shock combo thread...

[RUTH'LESSDET]

First of all why are you pissed like i said its not that serious..:loco: ....its only suspension for my car not your car. Yes I started the thread to get opinions about different things I could do for $1000 which is my budget for suspension at this time. I just wanted to know what you think and most importantly WHY:aw: Like i said in my last post yes the d2 are ordered already but there is nothing stopping me from not putting them on my car dude I could always exchange for a different setup as long as I dont install them.

Why start this thread if you knew you were going to buy shit in the first place?

I didn't know i was gonna buy shit in the first place I merely went to talk to a friend at his shop and couldn't say no to the price I was given.

I'm pissed because you made a thread asking questions, and when you don't get the answers you want to hear, you cover your ears and ignore our advice.

I saw all of your post and like I said b4 i am taking that setup into consideration, but who wants to listen to someone being an :mrmeph:and talking(posting!!) reckless over the internet. So with that being said....if you dont like the thread dont post its that simple...once again thank you for you enlightenment!!!

[spool_sample]

This guy seems to think everybody is a drifter (iceman)or a racer i am neither furthermore the car is automatic right now...in the future maybe some autox, but that it. lets get back to the topic best and worst suspension setups for 1000 and WHY?

The problem with the question at hand is that 90% of the complete coilover kits you can get for $1000 are pretty much the same. They are full-body height adjustable, monotube, have 15-32 clicks of adjustment, 8/6 spring rates, and generally similar valving. You can pick whichever one you get the best deal on or looks the prettiest, because nitpicking $1000 coilovers is not going to matter much, especially if you only DD the car.

If you want something that you can live with everyday and have something nice to start with for tracking the car (eventually), then +100 for Koni/GC. Pair them with Tein or Cusco camber plates for best results.

If you just care about dumping the car, just get one of the pre-assembled kits, because an OTS Koni won't let you do that...

[RUTH'LESSDET]

Thank you this is what I want to know but other people :rant2:

Most people also do not know enough to realize they're garbage or even use the adjustability further than full soft for daily driving. It's easy to put on some coilovers, say "hey my car is a lot stiffer this is great!", then come here and post some bullshit expert opinion how they're awesome which every clueless noob will take as the word of god himself. What advantage does a set of $1000 coilovers have over a Koni/GC setup in any situation? With the konis he will have a smoother ride, custom spring rates and better performance on and off the track. I'll trade some useless knobs and JDM bling for that any day.

[RUTH'LESSDET]

Thanx for the info whats the price on a good set of camber plates???

The problem with the question at hand is that 90% of the complete coilover kits you can get for $1000 are pretty much the same. They are full-body height adjustable, monotube, have 15-32 clicks of adjustment, 8/6 spring rates, and generally similar valving. You can pick whichever one you get the best deal on or looks the prettiest, because nitpicking $1000 coilovers is not going to matter much, especially if you only DD the car.

If you want something that you can live with everyday and have something nice to start with for tracking the car (eventually), then +100 for Koni/GC. Pair them with Tein or Cusco camber plates for best results.

If you just care about dumping the car, just get one of the pre-assembled kits, because an OTS Koni won't let you do that...

[spool_sample]

Thanx for the info whats the price on a good set of camber plates???

Depending on where you go, the Tein camber plates are about $150. The rear upper mounts are about the same price.

You could get away with just the front plates.

[Aoshi112]

How about you let him buy whatever he wants, and you shut the fuck up?

I like that idea.

It's his money, and since he probably just street drives his car, cheap coilovers will do the job.



If all the products coming out of Japan are "crap"... why do they work for MANY people using them in competitive racing? A friend of mine has Tein coilovers (don't remember which) on his car, and he tracks his car often. He's had the Tein's for at least a couple years now, and his teins outlasted his brothers Koni shocks. I'm not saying Koni, or the brands mentioned (Bilstein etc.) are crap, but it comes down to WHAT type of driving you want to do, and how the suspension is tuned and even what quality of roads it's used on.

You have one friend who competitively races thats great. I've yet to delve into that but when I research products I want to hear from someone who actually has a lot more experience.

Dennis Grant isn't just some no name guy who talks shit on jdm coilovers. If you read that site and read up on him, he's won quite a few championships with his DSM AND he built custom suspension for people.

"For a while, I was the shock engineer for a race team, and was designing, building, and rebuilding shock packages for customers. A big part of this service was running customer shocks on the dyno to set a baseline for where they were currently at. I dynoed a couple of hundred shocks, representing the spread of almost every shock brand extant." - Dennis Grant

Given his opinion on other brands of shocks and coilovers is a bit extreme, I do have to say his opinion is a very educated opinion, more so than most people on this board and your friend who competitively races on Teins. I don't mean to knock your friend but I rather trust Dennis Grant and Dave Coleman's opinion on suspension.

[mRclARK1]

You have one friend who competitively races thats great. I've yet to delve into that but when I research products I want to hear from someone who actually has a lot more experience.

Dennis Grant isn't just some no name guy who talks shit on jdm coilovers. If you read that site and read up on him, he's won quite a few championships with his DSM AND he built custom suspension for people.

"For a while, I was the shock engineer for a race team, and was designing, building, and rebuilding shock packages for customers. A big part of this service was running customer shocks on the dyno to set a baseline for where they were currently at. I dynoed a couple of hundred shocks, representing the spread of almost every shock brand extant." - Dennis Grant

Given his opinion on other brands of shocks and coilovers is a bit extreme, I do have to say his opinion is a very educated opinion, more so than most people on this board and your friend who competitively races on Teins. I don't mean to knock your friend but I rather trust Dennis Grant and Dave Coleman's opinion on suspension.

Talk about putting words in my mouth. lol

I never said this Dennis Grant was just some guy who's an idiot or anything, he sure sounds like he knows what he's doing, and I'm not saying any of the setups/products he recommends are no good. I've had Koni shocks (briefly... then sold the car) and I liked them just fine. All I'm trying to say is I don't think anything that a "JDM coilover" is guaranteed shit is all. Suspension setup is dependent on what type of racing and/or driving you want to do. In the past I've had spring/shock combos, and I prefer coilovers. I'm mainly into drift racing, and for me... I think coilovers are better for that. I like how the car handles with them. My buddy, who is drifting on Teins, has had them for a couple years now, and they're holding up fine. The dampers are adjustable, there is definitely a noticeable difference between the hardest and softest settings. I was just in the car 2 weeks ago. lol. Not to mention the fact I'm sure at least several Japanese drivers are using JDM "shit" coilovers, and they seem to be working for them just fine as well.

[RUTH'LESSDET]

Wow what a crazy thread thanx for posting all this info guys I really appreciate it. And to (iceman) no hard feelings man :love: lol

[RUTH'LESSDET]

I don't think everyone is a drifter. I don't see the point however of putting thousands of dollars into a car for performance, and it NEVER touches the race track. Be it for WHATEVER type of racing you enjoy

What about people who just street race? I personally know alot of people (not me:nono:) from NY that have cars w/more than 250hp, turbo, etc that have never tracked or drift, or auto x, nothing...they just use there cars for round town driving, highway racing, and just DD. you guys are probably looking at this like :wtf:? its true. I had my sil80 in 2002-2004(fully built sr20 hks turbo etc) and that car never touched a track ever and I spent hella $$$ on that car I just use the car for DD and for occasional stop light to stop light race, Going to local 240sx meets(Importfanatix.com),etc(never even entered a show car). Even now I dont think I would track my car still but I just want the car to be WELL Equipped just in case I feel like doing that. Some of you may think thats crazy but out here in NY (Queens, Brooklyn) people tend to drag race for $$$$ more often in my option rather than tracking...I dont know any people that autox and/or drift/grip etc (not including forum people)


This is just turning into a coilover vs. spring/shock combo thread...

yeah kinda its pretty cool though because I wasn't even thinking anything about spring/shock combos, because all Ive been hearing nowadays when im browsing through forums is STANCE, MEGAN, KTS (basically coilovers cheap ones). So I said to myself after being out of the performance game for 2 years now that stance, megan, kts etc, must be good. All the local forum guys I know have them...so now what????

[AceInHole]

Be baller. Buy some 4-way Motons.

[RUTH'LESSDET]

The problem with the question at hand is that 90% of the complete coilover kits you can get for $1000 are pretty much the same. They are full-body height adjustable, monotube, have 15-32 clicks of adjustment, 8/6 spring rates, and generally similar valving. You can pick whichever one you get the best deal on or looks the prettiest, because nitpicking $1000 coilovers is not going to matter much, especially if you only DD the car.

This is what I basically was thinking i should have done before I started this thread but I guess not. But then again some people really care about really technical suspension setups(BUFFS!!) and having there cars perfect in every aspect (suspension wise) I realized now im not a buff and even thought the d2's are not great I still have money left over from my $1000 so i can now pick up some cheap tension rods and still have $50 left :hsdance:

Now if you took a short stroke Koni Yellow installed in a shortened housing with GC's you would have one sick ass supension setup. Of course at that point your costs are starting to rise for the custom work. This is where the average Joe opts out for a pre assembled coilover setup.

YUP!

[ilia]

I ran koni yellows on my 3 series with 12k front 14k rear springs, and that shit was butter. They've got proper good valving.

[mRclARK1]

What about people who just street race? I personally know alot of people (not me:nono:) from NY that have cars w/more than 250hp, turbo, etc that have never tracked or drift, or auto x, nothing...they just use there cars for round town driving, highway racing, and just DD. you guys are probably looking at this like :wtf:? its true. I had my sil80 in 2002-2004(fully built sr20 hks turbo etc) and that car never touched a track ever and I spent hella $$$ on that car I just use the car for DD and for occasional stop light to stop light race, Going to local 240sx meets(Importfanatix.com),etc(never even entered a show car). Even now I dont think I would track my car still but I just want the car to be WELL Equipped just in case I feel like doing that. Some of you may think thats crazy but out here in NY (Queens, Brooklyn) people tend to drag race for $$$$ more often in my option rather than tracking...I dont know any people that autox and/or drift/grip etc (not including forum people)

I got nothing against some quick driving, and gear shifts from one light to the next... I've done it. However street racing is just the act of a total douche. Period. I'm not saying you are, but really what would you get out of it if you did do it? By street racing I mean excessive speed, running lights, weaving in and out of traffic etc. I just hate it when people build a car with that in mind, since all they're doing is preparing to commit an act that will be putting someone elses life in danger.

This is getting off-topic though, so I'm done. haha

[RUTH'LESSDET]

I got nothing against some quick driving, and gear shifts from one light to the next... I've done it. However street racing is just the act of a total douche. Period. I'm not saying you are, but really what would you get out of it if you did do it? By street racing I mean excessive speed, running lights, weaving in and out of traffic etc. I just hate it when people build a car with that in mind, since all they're doing is preparing to commit an act that will be putting someone elses life in danger.

This is getting off-topic though, so I'm done. haha

yeah why off topic ha ha thanx again

[fromxtor]

http://nissanroadracing.com/files/images/CIMG1126.preview.JPG
^^Here's what mine looked like during the assembly phase, they have since been cleaned up and painted. My buddy charged my practically nothing to cut off the spring perches and weld the new ones on.

[drifting_changed_mylife]

i just got a do D2's for about 800. ill let you know how they go

[inertiaticism]

I think Drifting is shit. Don't associate it with me in any way. I'm pissed because you made a thread asking questions, and when you don't get the answers you want to hear, you cover your ears and ignore our advice. Why start this thread if you knew you were going to buy shit in the first place?
THIS JUST IN, ICEMAN00 IS ASSOCIATED WITH DRIFTING!
THIS GUY LOVES DRIFTING AND EVERYTHING INVOLVED WITH IT.

Seriously though, Konis are pretty good stuff.
I can think of a few JDM brands that I would rather have, but I'm very happy with mine, especially for the price.

[RUTH'LESSDET]

That is funny....be careful he gets mad when you associate him with drifting :rant2: :rant2: :rant2: :rant2: :rant2:

THIS JUST IN, ICEMAN00 IS ASSOCIATED WITH DRIFTING!
THIS GUY LOVES DRIFTING AND EVERYTHING INVOLVED WITH IT.

Seriously though, Konis are pretty good stuff.
I can think of a few JDM brands that I would rather have, but I'm very happy with mine, especially for the price.

[BustedS13]

AGX/sportline combo. great for daily driving if you're a grown up.

[RUTH'LESSDET]

Agx sportline combo rides pretty nice BUT!!! It doesn't drop the car low enough for me, and thats also gonna bring about a wheel fitment issue for me in the near future as im looking for some sexy ass wheels to sit flush in my wheel wells on stretched tires(ya gotta look the part ya know!!). Cant have my car looking like a monster truck anymore.
http://www.shift-lock.net/oilcover/offsetpolice.JPG

AGX/sportline combo. great for daily driving if you're a grown up.

[BustedS13]

you sure are picky for a guy with an automatic transmission.

[RUTH'LESSDET]

that's true but this time around I'm doing cosmetics first
you sure are picky for a guy with an automatic transmission.

[babowc]

W3rd..

For a grand, you can only get the Stance Basics, since Stance GR+ would be out of budget (by $100).

Then.. I'd probably go with MAX for competition or Megan for a dd, but why would you need coilovers for a DD again?

[crazyikimasho]

Word on the street is that theres a company KBee that has a full case length height adjustable, dampening adjustable coilover in this price range.

Logan has the details, Ill let him fill you guys in. Id go this route if this was in the market for new coilovers in this price range.

[A Spec Products]

Word on the street is that theres a company KBee that has a full case length height adjustable, dampening adjustable coilover in this price range.

Logan has the details, Ill let him fill you guys in. Id go this route if this was in the market for new coilovers in this price range.

Yeah, I wasn't going to say anything but I'll post up the special next week on it

Just got these in, dual adjustable (preload + ride height), dampening adjustment, upper pillowball camber plates, 8/6kg spring rate

S13/S14

Inverted monotube as well

And the logo is a KILLER BEE! WU TANG! WE ON THE SWARM lol

And well in this price range for the initial buyers

I'm going to install a set on my car this weekend and be test subject (and give up my sweet JIC FLTA2's....sniff)

[420sx]

why so many whining anti-coilover bitches?? hmm... no wait wait theres not that many that actually track their car.

go drift on your fucking shock spring combo and tell me how you like that fuckin gansta body roll.

but wwaaaaaaa. its not comfortable. waaaaaaaaaawaaaaa. its sucks for daily waaa waaaaa

GET ANOTHER FUCKING CAR. 1 daily. 1 track.

[RUTH'LESSDET]

Becaues dude im tried of my car looking like a 4x4

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/ruthlessdet/jdm%20bumper/IMG_4639.jpg

W3rd..

For a grand, you can only get the Stance Basics, since Stance GR+ would be out of budget (by $100).

Then.. I'd probably go with MAX for competition or Megan for a dd, but why would you need coilovers for a DD again?

Regarding the review of the coilovers and a comparison to XYZ coilover:
If you are in SO. Cal. do yourself and that thousand bucks of yours a favor and show up at one of the events we are attending and ride along to see how these things drift. Anyone who tells you the product they sell is the best is just bullsh*t*ng you. So come see for yourself. If you are an amateur or pro am drifter, these coilovers are going to be great bang for your buck. If you want your daily driver to ride similar to the stock suspension go buy someone elses street spec coilover. These are called MAX competition suspension coilovers for a reason, they are great for drifting. They have pillowball uppers front and rear with spring spacers for uncompromised performance. They have urethane lower mounts instead of rubber. Compaired to most street spec coilovers with 32 way adjustability The MAX coilover softest setting is equal to the other's hardest setting with the same range of adjustment. They are aggressive. Made for drifting, not for pansys. At the same time they do a decent job damping bumps like the insane launch ramp to the infield of the Orange Show Oval. And if you do manage to somehow blow one up, replacement dampers are only $100 and are in stock, no rebuild downtime needed!

That a quote from the guy that sells MAx is to Extreme for me im not a drifter

[RUTH'LESSDET]

:keke: :keke: :keke: :keke: lol

why so many whining anti-coilover bitches?? hmm... no wait wait theres not that many that actually track their car.

go drift on your fucking shock spring combo and tell me how you like that fuckin gansta body roll.

but wwaaaaaaa. its not comfortable. waaaaaaaaaawaaaaa. its sucks for daily waaa waaaaa

GET ANOTHER FUCKING CAR. 1 daily. 1 track.

[RUTH'LESSDET]

Could you please post some pics and some coilover dynoes for the suspension freaks if you will

Yeah, I wasn't going to say anything but I'll post up the special next week on it

Just got these in, dual adjustable (preload + ride height), dampening adjustment, upper pillowball camber plates, 8/6kg spring rate

S13/S14

Inverted monotube as well

And the logo is a KILLER BEE! WU TANG! WE ON THE SWARM lol

And well in this price range for the initial buyers

I'm going to install a set on my car this weekend and be test subject (and give up my sweet JIC FLTA2's....sniff)

[RUTH'LESSDET]

well dont just stand there post some pics :aw: and info

Word on the street is that theres a company KBee that has a full case length height adjustable, dampening adjustable coilover in this price range.

Logan has the details, Ill let him fill you guys in. Id go this route if this was in the market for new coilovers in this price range.

[420sx]

im sorry but dmax looks like some jdm ricer shit. buy stuff thats proven to perform well on the track.

if you just want a drop to daily cut your springs. its cheap and nobody gives a shit. not like you track the car. id never suggest it otherwise but hey, its free.

if you want performance its going to cost you. but if you just daily then its not worth it. whats the point of putting money into a car that doesnt see track?

[Irukandji]

Powered by Max
Stance GR Sports (don't come with pillow ball mounts)
Ddrug (if you can find it)

[timlush]

that would depend on if you shortened the strut housing and went with a Koni short stroke insert. With a Stock height Koni Yellow/GC(i.e. Koni app for our cars) setup you would not want to take the car lower than 2 inches though the collars would allow lower than 2 inches you would be out of the optimum stroke range of a Koni Yellow made specifically for our cars.

Now if you took a short stroke Koni Yellow installed in a shortened housing with GC's you would have one sick ass supension setup. Of course at that point your costs are starting to rise for the custom work. This is where the average Joe opts out for a pre assembled coilover setup.
If you don't want to overly slam your car though a Normal Koni/GC setup would probably run around $800-900.

Ok thanks. Just wondering because ALL my RX-7 buddies love their Koni Yellows....

[Bobafreak]

how many of you use the spring shock combo on the track. im thinking about getting stance on my 240. its daily right now till i get the 4runner. then it will be my weekend.

[A Spec Products]

Could you please post some pics and some coilover dynoes for the suspension freaks if you will

For under $1000 bucks, I don't think there will be a coilover dyno chart

LOL

For the $2500+ Zeals we sell, there are no coilover dynos lol

And even if there was, I don't think anyone would understand it nor benefit from it

Its like a sneaker

Everyone can tell you it is the coolest shoe ever
Everyone can tell you the dimensions of it
Everyone can show you pictures of it
Everyone can show you the cool air bubble in the side

But until you USE it, then no one can judge what's best for YOU

If it fits your budget, style, and driving requirements, then I'd say that's a done deal case closed

[ALEXTHESUS*PECT]

is it true,,,,,,,,,,,, the swarm has finally landed at aspec?

[Iceman00]

Could you please post some pics and some coilover dynoes for the suspension freaks if you will
Check my link, it had Dynos for coilovers. Also, honda Tech has a Thread sticky about strut dynos as well.

[Wiisass]

And even if there was, I don't think anyone would understand it


Hi Logan, I'm Tim.

[kandyflip445]

^lol

I have Koni's and S-Techs. They work great. I didn't want adjustable ride height because I didn't really want to mess with it.

[MrChow]

Becaues dude im tried of my car looking like a 4x4
I know the feeling... But riding on stock suspension is sure a lot better than coils... Lol. Also that I've had my front bumper saved cause I on stock height. Lol

But no serious the SUSTEC PRO S-0C look freaking great for DD. If anything I do recommend get some spring helpers on your coils.

[irax]

LOL! how many posts and this guy still doesn't understand that there really isn't any non-preload ride hight adjusting coilovers that will be good for daily driving in NYC

upgraded springs and struts are your best bet, no matter what.

unless you want to give up comfort for ride hight

every one should just stop posting in this thread, he doesn't get it.

[steve shadows]

And even if there was, I don't think anyone would understand it nor benefit from it

Its like a sneaker

Everyone can tell you it is the coolest shoe ever
Everyone can tell you the dimensions of it
Everyone can show you pictures of it
Everyone can show you the cool air bubble in the side

But until you USE it, then no one can judge what's best for YOU

If it fits your budget, style, and driving requirements, then I'd say that's a done deal case closed

some sneakers are just made for 10 cents and sold for 100 dollars like nike and many are pieces of shit, so i guess your right.

[johngriff]

some sneakers are just made for 10 cents and sold for 100 dollars like nike and many are pieces of shit, so i guess your right.

LOL... so true, its all in the marketing...

[hellion240sx]

Yeah, I wasn't going to say anything but I'll post up the special next week on it

Just got these in, dual adjustable (preload + ride height), dampening adjustment, upper pillowball camber plates, 8/6kg spring rate

S13/S14

Inverted monotube as well

And the logo is a KILLER BEE! WU TANG! WE ON THE SWARM lol

And well in this price range for the initial buyers

I'm going to install a set on my car this weekend and be test subject (and give up my sweet JIC FLTA2's....sniff)



pics please!

i was listening to the late great old dirty bastard on my way to and from pensacola this weekend!

[RUTH'LESSDET]

I do get it I actually dont mind coilover DD in NYC its not that bad...plus im altmost certain that I wont be DD my car much longer and doing other track oriented things with it. Springs and struts...just not feeling it sorry...yeah i am willing to give up comfort for ride height.

LOL! how many posts and this guy still doesn't understand that there really isn't any non-preload ride hight adjusting coilovers that will be good for daily driving in NYC

upgraded springs and struts are your best bet, no matter what.

unless you want to give up comfort for ride hight

every one should just stop posting in this thread, he doesn't get it.

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How are tein basics for the track?

[TonKpilS14]

How are tein basics for the track?

i dont know about the track but i have thoughs on my s13 and when i hit up the mountains i dont really like it...

i have s14 with tein ha's and its a dream :coolugh:

[irax]

I do get it I actually dont mind coilover DD in NYC its not that bad...plus im altmost certain that I wont be DD my car much longer and doing other track oriented things with it. Springs and struts...just not feeling it sorry...yeah i am willing to give up comfort for ride height.

LOL! well then, there has been many good suggestions on suspension.
just burn that hole in your pocket and buy something,