Best SR20DET Oil pan

[donmx258]

Just wonder if i could get some imput on the best oil pan to get. I searched and couldn't find anything. thanks

[wangan_cruiser]

greddy or tomei oil pan

[Unholy S14]

greddy or tomei oil pan

dude i was just thinking that even before clicking on the thread.

greddy or tomei

[burnsauto]

are there any other companies that manufacture them? (ive never seen anything else but those two designs...just wondering)

[s13silvia123]

ARC oil pan

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[slamdbusa]

GReddy, d-defenately.

[GKTECH]

I prefer the Tomei over the greddy.

[180SXClone]

:bow::bowdown::hyper::rofl::whip::rant:
stock is the best!

[viscid240]

I plan on running the Tomei with modified pick-up.

So I would say Tomei, also what about the Moroso, a local shop down here uses it for it's drift or sponsored cars.

[zoototheyork]

how about you make your own

[Slidin240Wayz]

I did not read good reviews on the Moroso on FA...maybe something is different now.

Tomei is 500+

Greddy can be had for half of that.

You decide.

[viscid240]

Ok, but he never said a budget price. Never did I say the Greddy was not as good, and has been proven. I am sure that is also because no one really wants to spend the money of the ARC, or Tomei.

Of course it seems like a no brainer going with Greddy but, that's where price plays a factor in what you want to pay for.

Like I said I am going with a Tomei, may not be what he chooses, but is what I will.

[donmx258]

does the greddy hold more oil than stock? i belive the arc one holds one more Liter

[burnsauto]

does the greddy hold more oil than stock? i belive the arc one holds one more Liter

yeah it holds an extra quart. it also has one way trap doors that you bolt in to help prevent the oil from sloshing to one side and going away from the oil pickup.

[rednerd]

Metal pans dent, aluminum pans shatter.

[steve shadows]

Metal pans dent, aluminum pans shatter.

id rather have it crack then dent.

denting into the oil pickup equals immediate failure

its a lot easier to dent something with a metal oil pan and not notice it

you need to drop the greddy or slam the car into somthing very hard which will probably cause you stall the motor etc anyways.

just a thought.

the dent can be a hairs ass on metal pans and cut oil flow withoutyou ever knowing it, ive done it.

[wangan_cruiser]

since this is a oil pan thread but not threadjacking. is there an oil pan that would clear the largus sway bar? ive search but cant find one. or i would just have to downgrade my sway bar?

[iluvboost]

my greddy oil pan is awesome

[S14DB]

I plan on running the Tomei with modified pick-up.

So I would say Tomei, also what about the Moroso, a local shop down here uses it for it's drift or sponsored cars.

http://www.moroso.com/sport_display.asp?catalog=2

Where is the SR application?

[Koopa Troopa]

Greddy holds 5 quarts. Stock is 3.

I've also dropped a motor ontop of my Greddy pan... Not a scratch on it.

[steve shadows]

The only down side of the greddy is you can strip the threads on the oil drain and oil temp slot if your a total retard oaf.

The other thing I like about the greddy is the integrated cooling fins on the pan, something the tomei doesnt have (steel does radiate heat better though).

would be an intersting comparo? oil temp on tomei vs. greddy with pan mounted oil temp sensor?

[Sil-Eighty SE-K]

ARC :P if u can afford it

[Slidin240Wayz]

Best = Tomei = $550.

Great = Greddy = $350

[steve shadows]

Best = Tomei = $550.

Great = Greddy = $350

you just base it on money? haha ok

[Koopa Troopa]

Someone raise their engine hoist all the way up and then drop the motor ontop of their Tomei pan and see if it survives... That's how we'll declare the winner..

My Greddy has already passed that test...

[codyace]

Metal pans dent, aluminum pans shatter.

I just went offroading at an HPDE day, and obviously was in the dirt with my Greddy pan. Not a single issue.

Best = Tomei = $550.

Great = Greddy = $350

Any information to support that, aside from name?



My Greddy has already passed that test...

LOL!!!! You and Matt Vassalo (spelling) should hook up and test more of our parts this way for fun...haah!!


9-10k miles on my S14, all with greddy pan, never an issue. 6 or 7 HPDE days, 2 drag days, and tons of backroad rural PA beating.

[usdm180sx]

Greddy > ARC because Greddy has hinged baffle plates. ARC does not and the damn thing costs a lot more.

[S14DB]

Greddy > ARC because Greddy has hinged baffle plates. ARC does not and the damn thing costs a lot more.

Yeah, I noticed the Z33 has cast in rings. But, the SR pan doesn't seem to have jack inside. Also the ARC has less cooling fins.

[Koopa Troopa]

LOL!!!! You and Matt Vassalo (spelling) should hook up and test more of our parts this way for fun...haah!!


As long as I have motors to pull I am sure I'll drop some more. I always forget to lower the hoist after the motor is out of the car... :spank:

[SixSpeedSleuth]

I have the Greddy pan and love the extra oil capacity, however, the holes that you mount the baffles to did not line up. If I knew that was going to be the case, I would have just got the "Freddy" oil pan.

[Koopa Troopa]

Eh? Mine fits fine... You sure you got a real Trust oil pan?

[SixSpeedSleuth]

Eh? Mine fits fine... You sure you got a real Trust oil pan?


Yeah, I'm sure. I ordered it from Enjuku Racing so I would be sure to get a real one. I could get the screws to go in, but the baffle was bowed, so I just ran without them. I love greddy, but I think the quality is going a little downhill on some parts. I also have the Greddy Intake manifold, and the spot where the throttle body bolts on was horribly misplaced. I have a picture floating around somewhere. I had to machine off over a 1/4 inch to smooth the transition.

[Tearlessj]

:bow::bowdown::hyper::rofl::whip::rant:
stock is the best!
Is the stock oil pan really that bad? I just replaced the dented one on my motor set with a oem one. Now im thinking I should have just went greddy. :confused:

[cfinch]

I run the stock pan... I just hammer them out so the bottom is rounded. I have an aluminum plate that covers the factory oil pan in the event something hits it. One time I did hit something in the road and it cracked my greddy oil pan... Had it been stock the pan would have been pushed into the pickup and toasted the motor but luckily I had the pan that day but what are the odds of that? I wish I knew who made the cover I got or where it came from... It bolts onto 6 of the 8 mounting points and covers the stock pan.

[Slidin240Wayz]

http://www.moroso.com/sport_display.asp?catalog=2

Where is the SR application?

They stopped making it. It has been discussed on Freshalloy.com

I run the stock pan... I just hammer them out so the bottom is rounded. I have an aluminum plate that covers the factory oil pan in the event something hits it. One time I did hit something in the road and it cracked my greddy oil pan... Had it been stock the pan would have been pushed into the pickup and toasted the motor but luckily I had the pan that day but what are the odds of that? I wish I knew who made the cover I got or where it came from... It bolts onto 6 of the 8 mounting points and covers the stock pan.

I know the pan you are talking about. A shop by my way has one in stock.

I see it on ebay every now and then.

Carlos

[water]

THE BEST oil pan ever created for an SR is made by ARE in Australia. It has a pivoting oil pick-up so your engine will never be starved of oil, whether you're doing a wheelie or you're sideways at 100+mph.

[Sir]

^^ Wrong - Dry sump is best :P

[water]

Hahaha, yeah but then again there's no oil pickup either.

[S14DB]

THE BEST oil pan ever created for an SR is made by ARE in Australia. It has a pivoting oil pick-up so your engine will never be starved of oil, whether you're doing a wheelie or you're sideways at 100+mph.

Pics? Links?

[silviatunersr20]

I just say get a greddy pan, its the best bang for the buck and cheaper than the rest but still has a great name behind it to back the product up. I seen them for around 275 shipped so its not that bad.

[Koopa Troopa]

THE BEST oil pan ever created for an SR is made by ARE in Australia. It has a pivoting oil pick-up so your engine will never be starved of oil, whether you're doing a wheelie or you're sideways at 100+mph.

I fail to see how an oil pan has a rotating oil pick up seeing how the pick up has nothing to do with the pan...:loco:

[sohc4now]

^^^^http://www.are.com.au/Billet%20Sumps/Nissan%20SR20%20sump.htm

[AznDrftr.]

i heard that the greddy one was blah.

[johngriff]

I think the OP was just hoping someone would vouch for the freddy.

I mean, hell, buy it, you don't need to keep oil IN the engine anyways.

(jumps on soapbox).

The FIRST two mod's to an sr should be.

Greddy Oil Pan
Oil cooler, remote filter (2jz Turbo)

Then try to kill yourself from there.

[unicoladron]

that was the most informative website about oil pans evAr!

[[email protected]`S13]

greddy oversized..
thats what i run

[burnsauto]

^^^^http://www.are.com.au/Billet%20Sumps/Nissan%20SR20%20sump.htm

wow...nice in theory:) but for that kinda money i'd be on my way to a dry sump system.

+1 for the greddy...dealt with it on a friends car...thing never gave us a problem.

[max_POWER]

i picked up a "freddy" from a friend of mine for next to nothing. I havent actually got a chance to see my OEM yet (motor still on pallet) but if my oem is trash then im hoping my "freddy" works out.

[johngriff]

i picked up a "freddy" from a friend of mine for next to nothing. I havent actually got a chance to see my OEM yet (motor still on pallet) but if my oem is trash then im hoping my "freddy" works out.

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[k's_silvia2.0]

OK honestly if your not constanly drifting your car just go OEM.I mean daily driving doesnt call for an aftermarket oil pan.I have the oem dented and all I go drifting often and never had an oil issue with my motor.

[max_POWER]

LOL

so i shouldnt even bother?

[Kuzumi]

someone buy my ARC oilpan

[mastaflash05]

i use a freddy and its working very well for me.

[johngriff]

http://forums2.freshalloy.com/showthread.php?t=142689&highlight=freddy+oil+pan


http://forums2.freshalloy.com/showpost.php?p=1178806&postcount=5


Its like, you have to work REALLY hard to dispell all the BS that goes on in these threads sometimes.

[mastaflash05]

im just saying what i have, and its working very will for me. i have had no problems with it so far. damn near the same thing for what, 1/2 price?

[turtl631]

Just thought I'd stir this pot a little more- anyone have experience with the knockoff Tomei pan that RnD Factory sells on ebay? A quick search turned up nothing other than someone selling one.

[sr20boostn20]

i have the greddy one.

works well for me.

seems to work for many others as well

go with what works

[turtl631]

Of course the Greddy one works well, there are countless examples of that. I'm just curious if anyone has experiences with the Tomei knockoff.

[Doluck]

I run the stock pan... I just hammer them out so the bottom is rounded. I have an aluminum plate that covers the factory oil pan in the event something hits it. One time I did hit something in the road and it cracked my greddy oil pan... Had it been stock the pan would have been pushed into the pickup and toasted the motor but luckily I had the pan that day but what are the odds of that? I wish I knew who made the cover I got or where it came from... It bolts onto 6 of the 8 mounting points and covers the stock pan.


http://turbofabparts.com/parts/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=121&products_id=38&osCsid=c91d45352086959782403481e637d37a

[LoanShark]

naaaah

I believe the one finch is talking about is made by KTS. They're all over YJ on and off.

[Doluck]

I would rather cover the whole bottom and be safe.... besides, this is here and I know who makes it..
I wanted to do a group buy on them.... but since i'm not a sponsor........

[smelly240]

i seen the tomei knockoffs on ebay - anyone verify they are ok?

I still have stock because im poor

[drumnbasslvr]

Heres an oil pan WARNING and I swear should be stickied. I know of two revisions of the greddy oil pan for sr20, one being marked in small letters between fins on bottom Trust and one with significant lettering on center of bottom Greddy. Greddy has recession inside pan and Trust does not, otherwise identical. Trust pan placed on an s13 sr20det will seal off oil pickup unless you upgrade to s15 pickup tube. Trust pan on s14 or s15 will be just fine. Greddy pan fine for all. Learned a hard lesson to come up with this. Losing a built motor at idle in a minutes time. Be careful out there everyone.

[BlackZenkiS14]

Man, thats crazy! Sorry to hear dude.

Im still looking for a Tomei pan to pick up!

[Motary]

I'm designing a new oil pan at GKTech and am looking for some input from you guys. What would you like to see in it? Features so far are stainless steel construction with internal baffling. We have so far not agreed on whether to use a gasket for mounting surface or silicone seal like oem.

Here is what I have so far:

http://motary.planet.ee/gktech/render3.jpg

http://motary.planet.ee/gktech/render4.jpg

[jr_ss]

I prefer liquid gasket seals over paper/rubber gaskets, especially on oil submerged/soaked areas.

A paper/rubber gasket would be another expense for you guys, because as far as I know, no one makes one for the SR oil pan.

I'd recommend an oil temp sensor bung, and a splash guard located right around the pick up as to prevent sloshing from breaking suction and grabbing air. Similar to the Tomei style for the RB's.

http://www.tomei-p.co.jp/_2003web-catalogue/e114_RB_oillube.html

[Motary]

Is this what you had in mind?

http://www.tomei-p.co.jp/_2003web-catalogue/image/pic/P114_07_lube.jpg

JUN auto makes one like this for SR20

http://www.junauto.co.jp/gallery/cylinderblock/oilpanbaffle_sr20.jpg

[jr_ss]

Yes, but theirs replaces the lower baffle that's bolted in the bottom of the motor. If you have it welded into the pan you no longer have to unbolt the factory one.

Obviously it has to be cost effective, but most people buy oil pans, not lower baffling plates...

[Motary]

Some sheet metal laser cutting and forming into a tube should not add much cost, thanks a lot for your input :)

[rbs14kouki]

i like my moroso pan so far ...

[Motary]

Update

http://motary.planet.ee/gktech/render5.jpg

[jr_ss]

Looks awesome... Now price it competitively!

[StefSpec]

what happened to the sump GKtech were developing last year?

was going to be billet machined and had an interesting setup for the drain plug.

[Motary]

The price was not competitive

New one is set to be $199-$229, something like that.

[az_240]

How low will that pan sit compared to Moroso or CS?

[DJ 21o3]

I was about to buy a new pan, but looks like I am going to hold off until that is released. lol keep us informed.

[Matej]

Make a version that is to be used with the FWD SR oil pickup, so it can sit 12mm higher and not get smashed. :)

[Motary]

http://motary.planet.ee/gktech/sr20-sump5.jpg

Currently the clearance is same as the previous model sold.

For a track day a sump guard is IMO a must have so raising it would not be very good for business as it would require all SR guys to have FWD SR pickups.

In case you do bottom out on the oil pan the baffle plates will prove stiffness so oil pickup should not be left to starve. We could probably have one made just so we could crush it and see the aftermath.

[jr_ss]

In case you do bottom out on the oil pan the baffle plates will prove stiffness so oil pickup should not be left to starve. We could probably have one made just so we could crush it and see the aftermath.

This would be a great idea and a good selling point. Show before and after the damage, the speed and obstacles that were hit.

[JSimpson]

Sorry to bring a thread back from the dead but this is too good to let die. Was the GKtech pan ever completed?

[Motary]

Sorry to bring a thread back from the dead but this is too good to let die. Was the GKtech pan ever completed?

Samples are being made

I have a prototype fitted on my car:

http://motary.planet.ee/200SX/2015/IMG_20150213_195438.jpg

It also clears the anti-roll bar for those running it

For production model the bungs are located inside the oil pan

[TheRealSy90]

Has anybody had the baffles in the Tomei oil pan break free? I've heard of this happening so have been worried about it. Considering swapping my Tomei pan out for a Canton or Moroso pan now.

[brndck]

Has anybody had the baffles in the Tomei oil pan break free? I've heard of this happening so have been worried about it. Considering swapping my Tomei pan out for a Canton or Moroso pan now.

never heard of that, might be a good idea to tack em in a few additional places just to be safe.

I had a trust/greddy, but switched to a phase2 (I had it side by side on the counter with a circuit sport and a tomei, and I can't see any benefit to the tomei, or not enough to justify the price jump

http://www.frsport.com/P2M-P2-OPNSR20-GD-Oversized-Stainless-Oil-Pan-With-Baffle-Door-Nissan-SR20DET-_p_963771.html

[TheRealSy90]

Honestly I don't know if the one I've been using is a Tomei, Circuit Sport, or P2M pan, they all look the same and mine doesn't have any markings on it. It's been on the engine for a couple years but I've always been concerned with the baffles, and about how slim it is. It seems like the bottom could be pretty close to the oil pickup since it seems to sit a lot higher than the stock or other options.

[battery1882]

I use circuit sports which i believe is identical (manufactured from same place) to P2M.

[chris_240sx]

I had a trust/greddy, but switched to a phase2

Why did you switch? I'm considering oil pan choices myself...

[TheRealSy90]

Anybody have input on the Moroso vs. the Canton? The canton might have a better baffle design, but the welds look to be pretty shit inside. Maybe they're better now who knows. I think the Moroso has been ran by a lot of people with no issues.

[brndck]

I use circuit sports which i believe is identical (manufactured from same place) to P2M.
I had a tomei, a p2m, and a CS sitting on the counter in front of me. P2m and CS, you cannot tell the difference at all, other than p2m has a tag on it and CS does not. Tomei looks slightly different, but comparable design and quality.
Why did you switch? I'm considering oil pan choices myself...
I'm switching from nismo mounts to cusco. Nismo sit the engine very high and allow lots of room for the pan, cusco sit a lot lower, putting the pan at much higher risk for scraping (yes, I will be running a skid plate), so I didn't want a cast pan anymore.

(its for sale btw http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=636040 )

[chris_240sx]

I'm switching from nismo mounts to cusco. Nismo sit the engine very high and allow lots of room for the pan, cusco sit a lot lower, putting the pan at much higher risk for scraping (yes, I will be running a skid plate), so I didn't want a cast pan anymore.

(its for sale btw http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=636040 )

Ah I see, that makes sense. Thanks for the info.

Right now I'm leaning toward a stainless pan, but good luck with the sale.

[5280VertDET]

Buy this, run what ever pan you want.

S13 chassis - Front Skid Plate (http://xcessivemanufacturing.com/index.php/nissan-drivetrain-chassis-engine-s-chassis-n-s13-fsp.html)

http://xcessivemanufacturing.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/650x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/n/-/n-240-fsp-s13-1.jpg

http://xcessivemanufacturing.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/650x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/n/-/n-240-fsp-s13-4.jpg

[pacotaco345]

Anybody have input on the Moroso vs. the Canton? The canton might have a better baffle design, but the welds look to be pretty shit inside. Maybe they're better now who knows. I think the Moroso has been ran by a lot of people with no issues.
I have a moroso pan on my car and love it, it used to hang kinda low with my sacked out stock motor mounts but ever since switching to drift freaq mounts it sits just above the sway bar/xmember. Welds are solid, metal is thick and I've never had issues with it trying to keep oil close to the pickup (I don't think I ever will since the thing holds 5 damn quarts of oil).

I don't have experience with canton pans on an SR20 but my dad ran one for years on his 67 mustang with a 302.. That thing cracked every damn race weekend.

[TheRealSy90]

http://xcessivemanufacturing.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/650x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/n/-/n-240-fsp-s13-4.jpg


With a skid plate that close to the pan, if you hit the plate it's hitting the pan and bending it anyways. Those skid plates aren't that strong.




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[5280VertDET]

With a skid plate that close to the pan, if you hit the plate it's hitting the pan and bending it anyways. Those skid plates aren't that strong.




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I dunno man, my excessive plate is fucking beefy.

However this more to alleviate the daily driveway scraping on a cast or lower pan not a direct blow or driving over a curb; in which case you're fucked anyway.

[TheRealSy90]

I dunno man, my excessive plate is fucking beefy.



However this more to alleviate the daily driveway scraping on a cast or lower pan not a direct blow or driving over a curb; in which case you're fucked anyway.



Very true haha.


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[d9m13n]

I dunno man, my excessive plate is fucking beefy.

Can attest to this, shits thicker than a bowl of oatmeal with great clearance on both pan/ground side. $90 for that much peace of mind is a steal imo

[TheRealSy90]

According to some people on Facebook the Canton pans can have an issue with the flange not being flat and leaking no matter how you silicone it.