MAX Brake Rotor upgrade.. As anyone tried them??

[MrChow]

Okay since we've been on the subject of brake kits, what do you guys think about this?
I'm thinking about getting it. I need new rotors anyways and these look really good.
I don't do anything much to need big brake upgrades but I do sometime to get to the point when I get a lil brake fade. But I believe that it's my lines (stock crap sucks).
I've also thought about getting the Z32 brakes but then I've heard about the Z32 feel is really touchy. I like my stock feel to my brakes.
There's also Q45 setup but then there's brake bias that I'm worry about.
Anyways here's the kit. Also I'm sorry if my english is all crappy.

MAX ビッグブレーキローターキット BIG Brake Rotor Upgrade IN STOCK NOW! $320 per front or rear set comes with 330mm 1piece rotors (with 2 piece rotor style) factory brake caliper spacer and hardware. Fits both 4 and 5 lug patterns. Only guaranteed to fit with 18" wheels, some 17" wheels with larger inside area will work.

http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_files/public/1182231908_2_FT361_p1010179.jpg
http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_files/public/1182231908_2_FT361_p1010180.jpg
http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_files/public/1182231908_2_FT361_p1010198.jpg
http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_files/public/1182231908_2_FT361_p1010199.jpg

Sorry they don't come with prada shades.

Anyways discuss!

[MrChow]

Just to note I didn't proof read.. .So I'm sorry for the english again.

[EDacIouSX]

these are 330mm rotars. so basically this is the kind of rotar size that c omes on those nice pricey brake upgrades (endless, project mu etc). i've been wanting to get these as well. And, as for brake pedal feel, I have 30mm z32 brakes front and rear with the z32 brake master cylinder. feels awesome and stops very nice. stock breaks suck ass (on my s14)

[MrChow]

these are 330mm rotars. so basically this is the kind of rotar size that c omes on those nice pricey brake upgrades (endless, project mu etc). i've been wanting to get these as well. And, as for brake pedal feel, I have 30mm z32 brakes front and rear with the z32 brake master cylinder. feels awesome and stops very nice. stock breaks suck ass (on my s14)
Qestion? What pads did you have when you were on your stockies?
Cuz I noticed a big different when I changed to the EBC. I keep forget that pad play a lot with the feel of your brakes...

[!Zar!]

MrChow: The reason the brakes feel touchy is because the master cylinder wasn't changed.

You tailor brake feel by way of the master cylinder. The reason people don't like the way z32/q45/ect feel is because they don't use the propper BMC.

[babowc]

Just one question..
since Z32 brakes fit on the stock spindle, will Z32 calipers work with this kit?

How much are replacement rotors with these kits?

and.. rear brakes, do you guys have a set for Z32 rears with the drum ebrake setup? or is the 3rd and 4th pics just for stock calipers?

[OptionZero]

1 piece rotors w/ 2 piece look? lol

[s13silvia123]

for those who didnt the difference between the auto and manual BMC. the auto BMC is a little bigger. which works better than the manual with Z32 brakes

[MrChow]

1 piece rotors w/ 2 piece look? lol
The first 2 pics are the 2 piece rotors. The last 2 are a 1 piece with the 2 piece rotor style.

[CKAMC]

EDacIouSX: what size BMC of the z32 did you go with?

I have to agree tho, proper BMC size is key with larger brakes. I wouldn't refer by what model Z they were on since when their are varieties among auto's and manual's.

Most part people seem to like the 17/16 aka 1 1/16 size. Seen some weird size's like 5/8's before.

[GSXRJJordan]

I think for $330/pair that's not a horrible deal... "about" what Cobra rotors and brackets will run you.

Yes, since Z32 rotors have the same bolt setup, they'll work with this kit.

Yes, stock BMC on z32 fronts/any rears feels funny... don't use it.

Yes, the 15/16" BMC off a Z31 300zx works great with Z32 fronts/stock rears (that's what I run)

Yes, the 17/16" BMC off a Z32 300zx has way too much rear bias with z32 fronts/stock rears to brake well.

Yes, good brake pads are better than bad ones. EBC Greenstuff pads are decent for the street. Axxis metal master/PBR pads are better all around for the same money.

Yes, it's hilarious that they're putting allen heads on a 1pc rotor to make it look 2pc, but I still like them :)

Any input from the MAX guys in SD on availability/pricing picked up?

[ixfxi]

i love the 17/16 MC, fucking ROCK HARD pedal feel - like my cock.

shit is SOLID as STEELE.... LEXINGTON STEELE.

haha oh man, i need to stop smokin this SHIT!

[Matej]

The bolts for looks on the rears are kind of dumb, I'd still rock them though.

[cdlong]

those are all one piece rotors. no where does it say anything about two piece, just two piece look. that's some ricer bullshit if you ask me. it would look stupid with your tiny stock sliding calipers anyway.

the Z32 calipers would bolt up but you'd need about a 14" rotor since the z32 caliper uses a 1" larger stock rotor.

[scarecrow27]

wutever happened to those spacers that would make a supra rotor fit i think mckinney motorsports had em

[driftenthusiast]

It gets you the look of the big brake kits, large rotors with stock calipers=fail
And the 2 piece "look" is kinda gay, i guess for a budget it isnt too bad if you just run upgraded pads or Q45 calipers.

[babowc]

Yes, since Z32 rotors have the same bolt setup, they'll work with this kit.


but this set utilizes an entirely different rotor..
Im sure the caliper mounts will work.. but how do the rotors differ?

I guess it'd be alot more credible if someone from MAX chimed in :rawk:

*cdlong, you're in seoul?? where at?

[FusionR240sx]

so what's a good BMC with q45 rotors up front?

[cdlong]

what does that have to do with anything in this thread?

Q45 or z32 calipers would work but you would need a different bracket, or a different rotor.

i'm actually in songtan which is about an hour south of seoul, but nobody knows where that is.

[EDacIouSX]

for those asking about my z32 BMC i have no clue. I can ask the owner about the 300zx he had to get more specific answers. I had no clue that z32 bmc's were different sizes. I can also take a pic if anyone wants to take a look at it?

Also for the one who asked about pads, i was using some stock pads. i basically went from stock oem/whatever s14 brakes to oem z32 30mm calipers front + rear. At first I didn't notice the difference but under hard breaking the difference is huge. especially if you got some bigger wheels + good tires.

I'll take a picture of my BMC on my gold 14 tomorrow and post it here.

[CKAMC]

BMC from what I read runs in these sizes

Stock is 14/16 (manual model)

Z32 options are
15/16(auto model)
16/16(Varies among models of Z32's)
17/16(Also varies among models of Z32, please look by size)

From what I was told/trained you would best run 15/16 for Q45's brakes... I have read Z32 front with stock rear's but I just try and recommend most people to do it correctly when messing with Z brakes and go all the way.

16/16 is less of a on/off switch for those running full z32 setup .

Most of the aftermarket brake setups tend to run a bit more on the aggressive side. Also read mixed reviews but some argue even with large rotor upgrades and more "track oriented" pads you would best be off with a 17/16. Gives you a really firm feel with stock z32 all around which with some cry out "on/off switch".

[Koopa Troopa]

I use the stock Silvia K's brake master cylinder and a brace with my 33 GTR Brembo's in the front... Feels fine for me and stops great.

If I ever decide to upgrade the rear I'll prolly switch to a 33 GTST brake master cylinder with a brake balancer but with just the fronts and the brace there is no need to upgrade to a bigger BMC.

[CKAMC]

Koopa: whats the difference, if there is, in the plunger size? or is there something else that makes it better? to get such an item for many here is looking thru clips or special ordering.

[240trainee]

I run a 1" BMC with full z/skyline brakes all around, feels great. I just got it from Napa, asked for one off of a 94 300zx TT, and a 1" is what I got. I love the feel though, plenty of modulation but I can lock up the brakes at will if I stomp on them.

I ran the z brakes with stock MC for a couple weeks, talk about taking your life in your hands, hahahahaha.

[Koopa Troopa]

Koopa: whats the difference, if there is, in the plunger size? or is there something else that makes it better? to get such an item for many here is looking thru clips or special ordering.

I have no idea....

I vaguely remember seeing 3/4 or 3/8 written on the mastercylinder but I don't rember. The brake pedal felt like shit before I put the brace on. The brace was a day and night difference. Which is good for me cause I don't need to change master cylinders.... I hate doing more work than needed.

[CKAMC]

^^^ ohh yeah brace is always a nite and day comparison. Its sad when people play it down as a not needed product when it changes quite a lot of the brake characteristic/feel so drastically.(to me at least)

[Fahaka]

I see why they would produce this product. Some people just want the bigger rotors. But the only way this would have an effect on braking is to change the caliper. Theoretically this will allow less brake fade because the rotor will act as a heat sink to absorb more energy, but the swept area doesn't change and neither does the clamping force. In fact the rotor adds to the rotational mass and would decrease braking force with stock calipers. if you are going to get this rotor use it with z32 calipers...add up all of the time and money to build this and then you will see it is more cost effective to buy the $795 wilwood kit.

[EDacIouSX]

I see why they would produce this product. Some people just want the bigger rotors. But the only way this would have an effect on braking is to change the caliper. Theoretically this will allow less brake fade because the rotor will act as a heat sink to absorb more energy, but the swept area doesn't change and neither does the clamping force. In fact the rotor adds to the rotational mass and would decrease braking force with stock calipers. if you are going to get this rotor use it with z32 calipers...add up all of the time and money to build this and then you will see it is more cost effective to buy the $795 wilwood kit.

oh that's true. it does add to rotational mass and all that BUT!! You have better brake torque. In other words, the calipers have better leverage because it's further from the center.

hmmm I looked at my z32 BMC just now and I don't know how to tell which one it is. Anyone know how to tell what kind of z32 BMC it is? heres some pics:

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c390/edaciousx/Parts%20for%20sale/S5000743.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c390/edaciousx/Parts%20for%20sale/S5000742.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c390/edaciousx/Parts%20for%20sale/S5000741.jpg

[AceInHole]

Just a few observations:

The Powered by Max site lists it as a 2-piece rotor. Not sure where the knockoff "2 piece look" rotors came from or if that's just an older style. They also show the rotors being used with z32 calipers, so I'm guessing it's a knockoff of the SPL bracket for use with 350z rotors (or similar).

It'd be nice if they said it was made of (aluminum hat?).

http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_plugins/zogo-shop/product_details.php?product=36&cat=1

I think I'd rather have stoptech 2pc rotors though....

[ixfxi]

^^^ ohh yeah brace is always a nite and day comparison. Its sad when people play it down as a not needed product when it changes quite a lot of the brake characteristic/feel so drastically.(to me at least)

chris

what is this "brace" you folks are referring to.

do tell.

[t . b o z]

chris

what is this "brace" you folks are referring to.

do tell.

Im guessing they're talking about a BMC brace. It stops the flexing motion that the BMC endures during heavy braking.

[CKAMC]

chris

what is this "brace" you folks are referring to.

do tell.

Im guessing they're talking about a BMC brace. It stops the flexing motion that the BMC endures during heavy braking.

we have a winner! :w00t:

for LHD? just knock off a cusco and your good to go. Think I saw one on ebay the other day... just redo the welds and clean it up if needed and your set. ironically I think it said megans :loco:

[Silvia_S13]

for questions about anything MAX related, why not jus call them or PM dan at max usa? the 2pc design is for them kids out there that like the 2pc look but he made them 1pc as its cheaper to manufacture and puts out a cheaper price tag for you people interested in running bigger rotors, with a 2pc look/feel

is 2pc necessary? iono

would i buy the upgrade rotors? yah, if i had bigger rims.

edit:

this is the original 2pc rotor they designed at first:
http://gtfactory.jp/cms/maxcat/Brake/large/Rotor.jpg

wasn't pre-drilled for 4/5lug, and it had a higher price tag i believe.

[EDacIouSX]

Just a few observations:

The Powered by Max site lists it as a 2-piece rotor. Not sure where the knockoff "2 piece look" rotors came from or if that's just an older style. They also show the rotors being used with z32 calipers, so I'm guessing it's a knockoff of the SPL bracket for use with 350z rotors (or similar).

It'd be nice if they said it was made of (aluminum hat?).

http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_plugins/zogo-shop/product_details.php?product=36&cat=1

I think I'd rather have stoptech 2pc rotors though....

350z rotar is 12.8 inches in diameter. max power is 330mm or 12.999999999 (aka 13 inches) inches in diameter.

[theronin]

i love the 17/16 MC, fucking ROCK HARD pedal feel - like my cock.

shit is SOLID as STEELE.... LEXINGTON STEELE.

haha oh man, i need to stop smokin this SHIT!

Am I the only one who noticed these insane ramblings?



p.s. Rotors look sexy, wonder if they'll fit behind R33 Gtr rims :yum:

[holaback]

Am I the only one who noticed these insane ramblings?






I noticed it to now that you pointed it out. He said he needs to stop smoking this "shit" which often times refers to crystal meth and often times makes you ramble on.