View Full Version : diy grounding kits. Ground loop concerns?
tastyratz
07-18-2007, 12:30 PM
So I wanted to make myself a grounding setup for my car instead of the homo led ricer ebay 150$ kits. I can pick up the wire, lugs, and solder myself. I can and will complete it myself.
My questions would be if I should have any concerns on negatives to doing this? By introducing multiple grounding points it would be my understanding that would be creating a ground loop situation. Wouldn't that be potentially as bad as no grounds before?
What would be considered too much or too little? What about good engine hotspots to do? I was thinking Shock Towers, Intake manifold, Alternator, and perhaps block.
Its been covered as a basic concept but I didn't really find anything directly related to the creation of ground loops which is my primary concern.
Thanks
TheWolf
07-18-2007, 12:38 PM
I think if you can do it yourself you certainly engineer it yourself to find out they do nothing. As long as your block to car grounds are good, clean, and tight. You are not going to be unlocking any power but you will be adding 10-15lbs of wire to your car in the process.
slider2828
07-18-2007, 01:28 PM
This has been covered multiple times in this forum. Use the search button. Key ground points = altenator, block, head, chassis, and ignitor.
chmercer
07-18-2007, 05:11 PM
waste of time to make your own, theyre like 15 dollars on ebay
LA_phantom_240
07-18-2007, 05:53 PM
waste of time to make your own, theyre like 15 dollars on ebay
those are also uber homo.
xDATx
07-18-2007, 06:18 PM
No, those are "rapper". Go homo and make your own, covering the key points mentioned a couple of replies earlier and you are set. You will notice a nice stable voltage and your electronics working like they should.
Us "homos" know how to spend our money.
BustedS13
07-18-2007, 07:52 PM
i made my own. while my factory grounds were alright, the idle smoothed out and the voltage became more stable. it's worth doing. a good reason not to buy ebay ones is because those come in precut lengths, so you'll wind up with too much wire in some spots and not enough in others.
projectRDM
07-18-2007, 08:49 PM
There is no ground loop on the chassis since it's one common point. You will see some variance in resistance in some places versus others, but nothing to affect anything.
chmercer
07-18-2007, 09:08 PM
ugh just get the one off ebay you retards
its just wire
codyace
07-18-2007, 09:20 PM
ugh just get the one off ebay you retards
its just wire
I like how kids are more apt to buy 50 dollars of fancy speaker wire for ground, but won't spend that money on good tires,brakes, suspension, track time, blowjobs, turbos, etc etc etc...
tastyratz
07-18-2007, 09:41 PM
I like how kids are more apt to buy 50 dollars of fancy speaker wire for ground, but won't spend that money on good tires,brakes, suspension, track time, blowjobs, turbos, etc etc etc...
Well if that were the case there wouldnt be any new retards would there? :keke:
r240na: Thank you for the mature and educated response. That convinces me enough to go ahead.
This is something that I have wanted to do for awhile but I havent really made a huge effort, and I was afraid of creating a ground loop situation. I know it makes the biggest impact on a/v that people notice, but thats not where its limited to impacting.
For n00bs who dont know why I ask a question like this about the electrical system: read
http://www.epanorama.net/documents/groundloop/index.html
When two or more devices are connected to a common ground through different paths, a ground loop occurs. Currents flow through these multiple paths and develop voltages which can cause damage, noise or 50Hz/60Hz hum in audio or video equipment. To prevent ground loops, all signal grounds need to go to one common point and when two grounding points cannot be avoided, one side must isolate the signal and grounds from the other.
codyace
07-19-2007, 06:42 PM
Glad you caught my little joke...
But honestly, 50 bucks? Use it towards an HPDE day, or Auto X day...or whatever. May car is plenty fast without fancy ground wires. I have the stock grounds ALL connected, and have no issues at all....my Nprobe and Blazt Datascan agree.
tastyratz
07-19-2007, 10:22 PM
people are getting all these crazy numbers... This can easily be something pulled off for far cheaper than most realize. I don't need to get bling wire with gold plated terminals. I practical application can be pulled off substantially cheaper than most people realize. Little melted solder in a copper lug will do the job very nicely.
Hell, I have an amp wiring kit thats just staring at me and collecting dust I will probably beat up to do this...
This isn't like a first line of mods. Theres not really a lot left that I can install on my car for mods. Any gains in throttle response, smooth idle, etc. are welcomed.
mifesto
04-14-2008, 10:06 AM
majority of the ebay ones are trash, they use aluminum ends or low quality wires. it is easy to do DIY with alil patience and good components. high quality copper or gold ends with high quality stereo wires is recommended.
there is no such thing as grounding loop. electric finds the least resistance path, simply that.
96Turbo
04-14-2008, 10:23 AM
oooooooooold thread dog
jackjack
04-14-2008, 12:40 PM
back from the dead......
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