drifting with a sohc, too much camber in rear?

[amplifi3d]

I've been drifting my sohc for a little bit now and i always thought it would be easier to spin my rears if i had more negative camber on them. But the other night while i was thinking about it, if the car sways back and fourth when im coming in or out of a turn does it increase the contact patch of the tire while im in a turn, totally defeating the purpose of the camber?

[Dousan_PG]

cars shouldnt be swaying in and out of turns because chokudori/manji whatever u want to call it is for fags

you should be going fast as balls and starting early and sliding into the corner

but if u like that gay swaying action
then u'll have less contact because of the camber

but will be esaier to spin the tires for sure.
SOHC is no problem
just dont be stupid and run 18s
15s on SOHC and max of 17s on DOHC, imo

ive drifted both
u can do SOHC w/ 17 " wheels but its more work and less fun

[karl wasabi]

And more camber wears out your tires a lot faster, so if you have a lot of tires, go for it!

15's on SOHC/DOHC FTW!! =)

[ThatGuy]

^Toe kills your tires more then camber.

[the terrible one]

but will be esaier to spin the tires for sure.
SOHC is no problem
just dont be stupid and run 18s
15s on SOHC and max of 17s on DOHC, imo

ive drifted both
u can do SOHC w/ 17 " wheels but its more work and less fun

why not run 18's on a DOHC?

more stress on the rear end??

[Dousan_PG]

nothing says u cant
just wasting time
because SOHC only makes so much power
why drift slower and the power wont maintainthru long corners

15s u can rip up quick and drift fast w/ SOHCs

but what do i know

u probably run 18s huh?

[GSXRJJordan]

not enough powa, captain.

[kidswole]

yeah don't run anything bigger than 15's on a sohc, the number of cams is directly proportional to how much horsepower, torque, suspension work, boost, etc, etc. and you will definitely fail and everyone knows you don't want to fail. if anything put two spares on the back, cuz everyone knows that even the best sohc can't drift near as well as a stock dohc running on 3 cylinders, w/ stock clutch, and a set of bride seats.??

WTF?

[georgesal]

but itf tha final size of the rim and tire are the same as the stock 15 inch, you can also run an 18. the Weight of the wheel is also a factor. so if you can find a really light 18" rim you might even be better than the stock 15

[McRussellPants]

^Toe kills your tires more then camber.

not as burners on the back of a drift car. Im on about 1.7 degrees and I still get a good deal of inner wear just because the second you make the rear squat down it becomes 2.5-3 degrees.

camber will kill tires pretty hard. toe certainly doesn't help anything though

rear camber depends on where you want the grip.

coming out if a corner you'll run less because you'll be on power and the rear will squat making for a shit ton more camber than you want.

coming into a corner you run more because the car will be rolling onto the contact patch.

but itf tha final size of the rim and tire are the same as the stock 15 inch, you can also run an 18. the Weight of the wheel is also a factor. so if you can find a really light 18" rim you might even be better than the stock 15

thats all well and good on paper but it doesn't work out in reality.

[slower than you]

run positive camber. i run 25degrees to fill out my fenders with stck wheels and no spacers... do it. bowleg style.

[GSXRJJordan]

lol fuckin jdm flush w/stock hardware - bowleg! That's actually kinda funny...

[gotta240]

I disagree with the people saying 18's aren't driftable/ a good choice.

If the outer diameter is the same, AND THEY WEIGH THE SAME, your car won't know the difference... Well, with exception of having a stiffer sidewall, which isn't exactly a negative for drifters.

Most people knock 18's and say that you can FEEL the difference even with the same O.D. Thats just because they are rocking 25lb 18's....

[the terrible one]

nothing says u cant
just wasting time
because SOHC only makes so much power
why drift slower and the power wont maintainthru long corners

15s u can rip up quick and drift fast w/ SOHCs

but what do i know

u probably run 18s huh?

haha nah. im on 15x7 +17 to be exact.

[karl wasabi]

I disagree with the people saying 18's aren't driftable/ a good choice.

If the outer diameter is the same, AND THEY WEIGH THE SAME, your car won't know the difference... Well, with exception of having a stiffer sidewall, which isn't exactly a negative for drifters.

Most people knock 18's and say that you can FEEL the difference even with the same O.D. Thats just because they are rocking 25lb 18's....


But why would you run such an expensive setup. 18 inch tires cost a lot more than 15's. Why not go the cheap route? You can probably get a really nice set of 15's and tires for the price of just tires on an 18 inch setup. Thats my opinion.

[C. Senor]

i dont know what you guys are talking about. i would never ever ever ever.............................................. .........EVER. put 18's on my single cam. i would go nowhere...my tires would not spin...and due to the fact if i got 18's i wouldnt be a wuss and run 18x7, i would have waaaaaaaaay too much tire to even try to break loose. on single cam power you would grip like an evo or something (not really just over exaggeration for point). but what ever.

to guy's original question. I run 205/50/15, with neg. 1.2 in the front. neg 1.5 in the rear. daily drive and not get bad tire wear, grip if wanted, and when time comes to have a little fun, break that rear end loose. done.

[LB.Motoring]

WTF.

no

18s are not even close to running 15's.

[Vision Garage]

what everyone is trying to say is that the stock single cam does not produce enuff power to spin 18 inch rims. 15s are so much easier and more easily driftable in a SOHC. Let alone, 15 inch rims usually will have a smaller contact patch compared to bigger rims. 15 X 6 or maybe 7 tops. people with 18 inch rims will mostly rock sizes such as 9s and 10s in width. Making such little power will make it harder to break these tires loose. Now if we were to talk about turbo KAs, it would be a different story.

[JaeTea]

18's on a SOHC?!?!

God damn some people are just stupid.

Wait, maybe I can stretch a 195 onto a 18x9.5...

[irax]

do they even make 195's in 18's ?

i think they do for 17's

just get 16's and do 205/40/16's, it will make you feel like you got an sr!

[swayray]

nothing says u cant
just wasting time
because SOHC only makes so much power
why drift slower and the power wont maintainthru long corners

15s u can rip up quick and drift fast w/ SOHCs

but what do i know

u probably run 18s huh?

West Co Justin??? heh... he ran 18" rears on a stock SOHC as ASB.... he looked like he had a very difficult time.....

that and i think he overheated his motor too.....

[amplifi3d]

18's on a SOHC?!?!

God damn some people are just stupid.

Wait, maybe I can stretch a 195 onto a 18x9.5...

What's so stupid? i would drift 17x9.5 -30. it's challenging but it's possible here is a video of me spinning 17x8's on my sohc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_S8FXXGCEg

[JaeTea]

What's so stupid? i would drift 17x9.5 -30. it's challenging


There's a difference between challenging and just making life more difficult than it needs to be.

[Creizai]

There's a difference between challenging and just making life more difficult than it needs to be.

Yeah DOHC 17s go for it but SOHC 17s why even bother. Enjoy snap oversteer truuuust me I know.

[amplifi3d]

snap oversteer? what?

[Dousan_PG]

Yeah DOHC 17s go for it but SOHC 17s why even bother. Enjoy snap oversteer truuuust me I know.


nah u just fucking suck at drifting
snap oversteer? hi newb.

[irax]

snap over steer? hi open diff!

[cfrost]

i used to drift with 18s in the back on an sohc with an open diff and 2 of the spark plug wires unplugged

oh and I ran hoosiers

[arkive43]

wtf going on in this thread....why are peple saying its possible to drift on 18"s. it might be but your motor will hate you for it. be realistic if you know you dont have any power dont run some huge ass rims and tires its retarded.. you may look cool but when your weak ass motor cant even break the tires loose thats even worse. id rather run 16's (im runnin dohc NA/bolt-ons) and drift fine all day then strain my motor and lose seat time.

[cfrost]

nobody's saying it's impossible, it's just a bad idea (like naming a team emo slide).

i think everyone understands that it's much easier to just put on 15s.

everybody does see it that way..right? :mepoke:

[s13_slider]

I agree. When I had my stock KA, I ran stock 15-inchers w/195-60/15's all around and it felt great. My friends with their KA's ran 17x9's with 225-45/17's all around. They COULD drift small corners, but they couldn't hang in longer corners because they would bog. Whereas I could just plant it in second and just floor the gas pedal, they had to keep clutch kicking. Now i have an SR, and I bumped up to S14 16-inch wheels with 225-50/16's in the back. There's more grip yes, but at the same time, I can still enjoy messing around with the extra power and the stiffer sidewall.

I know two guys personally that run 18's.. but they are pushing over 300 to the wheels with built somewhat built motors and such.

[arkive43]

nobody's saying it's impossible, it's just a bad idea (like naming a team emo slide).

i think everyone understands that it's much easier to just put on 15s.

everybody does see it that way..right? :mepoke:


lolz yes that and having common sence not to run huge sizes on an underpowered car. (team emo slide is a joke team me and a friend made up.:))

[crazyikimasho]

West Co Justin??? heh... he ran 18" rears on a stock SOHC as ASB.... he looked like he had a very difficult time.....

that and i think he overheated his motor too.....

hahah yeah 18 x 9.5 on 225/40 18s, Im just on SOHC until my SR is done at Garage Works. Should be around 300ish HP, so shouldnt have any problems smoking 18s at that point. Up until ASB I was running 17 x 9 on 215/45s.

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w94/mrgreenjeans88/Just%20Drift/IMG_0224.jpg

Just for reference... thats -3.5 degrees of camber in the rear, not recommended.

[steve shadows]

ive drifted both
u can do SOHC w/ 17 " wheels but its more work and less fun



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