stance coils

[drftwerks]

what is the advantage of the +pro over the reg GR???


as far as i can tell, just the helper spring.

does it help when your drop the car super low?? or not really?

thanks
Bryon

[Full-Lock]

i think you get a few different sets of springs with it

[s14_rob]

i got with my s14 gr+pros a set of 8k/6k and 9k/7k and the rears have helper springs

[nissandr1ft]

helper springs, and poly bushings on the lower shell casings...I think. I ended up going with the GR+ since I went with Z32 shell casings. I personally don't see much advantage besides maybe a tad softer ride daily with the helper springs.

[d*star180]

I have GR+pros, my friend has GR+, were both slammed as fuck, i cant feel a difference at all. Then again im no D1 driver.

[drftwerks]

^^

something usefull, nice, done

[Jung918]

Do you guys with the stances feel it being pretty bouncy?

[d*star180]

I have the 9/7 springs on, and it is pretty bouncy in comparison to stock or spring/strut combo, but not as bad as most other coilovers. Ive ridden in Silkroad,megan, and Kts for S chassis. All were bouncier than Stance, Megan was crazy bouncy. I once rode in an Evo with Endless Super Functions, now that, was alot of a nicer ride than my stance.

[articdragon192]

You mean Zeals? Zeals ride real nice.

[J-Style]

I can't wait till I get my Stance Basics, is that a recent picture of your car d*star180?

[viscid240]

I have gr+ in my girls s14 and slammed to shit also about 1/2in of the cat to touch the ground and they still can go lower. This is of course on steelies will be a tad bit higher by the end of the week when we throw her rims on.

I put the 9/7 combo on and have the F/R settings at 9 stiffness. It is bouncy but not annoying or uncomfortable in any way.

Keep in mind it's my girls ride and she loves it and says the ride does not bother her one bit, at the rate or settings.

[Jung918]

You mean Zeals? Zeals ride real nice.

Who makes Zeals? Where can I find more information on this? Does anyone have a set because I want a test ride.

[cgguy]

When I spoke with the Stance techs a while back he mentioned that the GR+ and the Pros were exactly the same appart from the helper spring and lower bushing. The dampers used are the same ones in both models....It's the Basics that give you a smaller diameter/differently valved shock.

So even if you bought the GR+ you could "convert" them to Pros by adding the helper spring at a later time. Stance will sell you any individual parts you'll ever need including whatever spring rates your heart desires.


I say save your money and go with the GR+

ps. Anything Zeal is going to cost you more than twice what the Stance will.

[EDacIouSX]

My friend had zeals on his s14, second from best whichever those are. Spring rates were 10/8 on lowest setting of 1. I believe front and rear were 6 way adjustable. And let me say this about them. FUCKING BOUNCEY! but they were track only coilovers.

zeals is same company as endless

[Slow Poke]

Who makes Zeals? Where can I find more information on this? Does anyone have a set because I want a test ride.

Zeal makes Zeal. lol It is a subsidiary of Endless Sport. They use Swift springs.
I used to run the super functions on my ITR. Best suspension I have ever used!

http://www.endless-sport.co.jp/suspension_kit/index.html

I don't think Zeal has a US page. Google can probably convert it for you.

[brainfood]

I like my stance gr+ coilovers. I run 8k front and 7k rear. I have the helper springs on the rear. They allow you to adjust droop travel other than that I they shouldnt make a difference in ride since they will be compressed anytime there is weight on the coilover.

[Slidin240Wayz]

I just drove around in the GR+ in a S14 on Friday. The ride took the bumps alot kinder than the Megan's. They seem very comfortable for daily driving. I just need to test them out on the track.

Carlos

[Edgar]

Ive heard nothing but good things about STANCE.

I was too looking at the diffrence and ill have to agree with everything D*Star said.

What spring rates are all offered?

[Dousan_PG]

i run 9/7kg on the s13
i wouldnt say they are BOUNCY
more like stiff

bouncy would be like blown shocks, imo

stiff is like when u hit a bump, u know it

stiff for sure
bouncy, no way

ive never had any complaints from passengers on the track or off.

[DOOK]

IIRC the gr+ and the +pro both come with 2 sets of springs, they come with 8/6 installed and 9/7 extra.

[Slidin240Wayz]

and from a reliable source I was told that they are made for the 9/7 setup and they just install them with the 8/6 for comfort.

[Bushido]

Does anyone know what the HIGHEST offset is on a 9.5 in. wheel you can fit on to the front of a S13 with Stances before you hit the coilover?
I'm pretty sure that 9.5 +15 will clear... but not positive.
anyone running similar sized wheels with these coils?

[backwoods]

I talked to several people this weekend about my setup. They all agreed with me that Stance GR+ Pro is the route to go.

[pbcstylez]

on s14, i can go +17 in fronts w/o rubbing maybe a couple mm before hittin the coils with a 225/40/18 tire

[Nackers]

Yes that is a recent picture of D*star's car.

I have Stance GR+ on my vert. They are not bouncy at all. Very very stiff. The only bounce I get is from my 205/55/16's @33psi. I parked the car and was pushing on the fenders and realized my suspension wasn't even compressing, it was all the tire.

BTW, I have 9/7 setup with 9 stiffness all round.

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/Nackers240sx/CRW_9343copy.jpg

And a little jewel I can't help but post

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/Nackers240sx/CRW_9332copy-1.jpg

^^^ D*star violating my vert ^^^

[Kaotik25]

sorry for going off topic, but the red hatch above is sexy...btw what size wheels are you running on?

okie back to topic. I'm running GR+ Pro with 9/7 and mild stiffness (around 7 clicks) and they are nice. On the street, you will feel the bumps. As for spirited driving, I LOVE MY STANCES.

[240trainee]

Badass vert, any more pics?

[2iv0 sx]

I'm close to getting my GR+ and I can't wait!

Where did you guys get yours from? I might be purchasing mine from AutoRnD, they gave me the cheapest quote shipped so far...

[240trainee]

I got mine from TougeFactory, buy from the source!!

I paid full price, but they are always nice, always answer questions I have, and it was just an overall good experience. And I know if I ever have issues they will be there to help out

Touge Factory rocks!!!

[snappy]

Yeah everybody in my group has been telling me to go with Stance, and this thread just reinfoces my giddiness to get em... GR+ Pros here I come!!!

[Ninjabread]

Currently saving up for GR's. Mr_240sx has GR + Pro, but has yet to drive on them because he's a big faggot and doesn't want to finish his car.

But he likes to take long walks on the beach.

[snappy]

^^ random. lol.

[backwoods]

So from what I've read the biggest difference is the extra springs and the helpers........right?

[DOOK]

Currently saving up for GR's. Mr_240sx has GR + Pro, but has yet to drive on them because he's a big faggot and doesn't want to finish his car.

But he likes to take long walks on the beach.

last time I checked you were his beach walking buddy :nono:

[umzenki]

better get on it if you want the GR+'s. They've been backordered for a good month or more. I ordered mine about 4 weeks ago and they're supposedly getting shipped out today. I can't wait!!!

[DOOK]

don't know where you ordered yours from but I called about a set last week and i could have get them overnighted if I wanted.

[Jung918]

Zeal makes Zeal. lol It is a subsidiary of Endless Sport. They use Swift springs.
I used to run the super functions on my ITR. Best suspension I have ever used!

http://www.endless-sport.co.jp/suspension_kit/index.html

I don't think Zeal has a US page. Google can probably convert it for you.

It was a inside joke. I am running the function X and they came with some type-x springs. I was lucky enough to find some swift springs though. I nut in my pants everytime I ride in my car. That is how good the springs and shocks are.

[d*star180]

I got mine from TougeFactory, buy from the source!!

I paid full price, but they are always nice, always answer questions I have, and it was just an overall good experience. And I know if I ever have issues they will be there to help out

Touge Factory rocks!!!

FUck yeah, buy from Touge Factory and youll get the best tech help there is if you ever need it. They answer any and all questions and will get sorted out as fast as they can. Plus, all the guys from Touge speak from actual experience with the product and run them on their personal cars.

[Irukandji]

You mean Zeals? Zeals ride real nice.

Ugh Zeals ride like ass. WAYY too soft for a track setup.

[C. Senor]

So from what I've read the biggest difference is the extra springs and the helpers........right?



you're getting lost buddy. main and i think only difference is the helper springs. gr+'s come with the 9/7 springs also.
just wanted to add. i use 8/6 with 7 setting..daily driver. awesomeness...pure awesomeness. that is all.

here so everyone can see plainly the difference. 1st link gr+'s 2nd link gr+ pro's

http://www.stance-usa.com/plus.php (http://www.stance-usa.com/plus.php)

http://www.stance-usa.com/pro.php

[articdragon192]

Ugh Zeals ride like ass. WAYY too soft for a track setup.

Depends on which. I've ridden in both Function X and Function Bs. The Function Bs I believe are like 18k/12k on my friend's Evo and trust me, they are not soft at all. He has yet found need to use full stiff at the track.

[Nackers]

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/Nackers240sx/CRW_9320copy.jpg
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/Nackers240sx/CRW_9400copy.jpg

Stock 240 on shittastic stock blown suspension

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/485000-485999/485692_7.jpg


Vert w/ stance

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/Nackers240sx/vertonstanceandsimbascar001.jpg
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/Nackers240sx/vertonstanceandsimbascar002.jpg
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/Nackers240sx/vertonstanceandsimbascar004.jpg
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/Nackers240sx/vertonstanceandsimbascar006.jpg
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/Nackers240sx/vertonstanceandsimbascar005.jpg

[articdragon192]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/ArticDragon192/My%20Fairlady/CAM_0035.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/ArticDragon192/My%20Fairlady/CAM_0035.jpg

My Z on Stance.

[backwoods]

you're getting lost buddy. main and i think only difference is the helper springs. gr+'s come with the 9/7 springs also.
just wanted to add. i use 8/6 with 7 setting..daily driver. awesomeness...pure awesomeness. that is all.

here so everyone can see plainly the difference. 1st link gr+'s 2nd link gr+ pro's

http://www.stance-usa.com/plus.php (http://www.stance-usa.com/plus.php)

http://www.stance-usa.com/pro.php

Ok thanks a lot for clearing that up for me.

[C. Senor]

^yup, not a prob. edgar. your car is too high....needs to be a little lower man.

[nlzmo400r]

im looking into getting some gr+pros for my s13. Ive ridden on them in a friends s13, as well as an s14 and a z33, all of which were very impressive. The Z really makes the dampers look great because the chassis is so stiff already.

[FinalDrive]

Zeal makes Zeal. lol It is a subsidiary of Endless Sport. They use Swift springs.
I used to run the super functions on my ITR. Best suspension I have ever used!

http://www.endless-sport.co.jp/suspension_kit/index.html

I don't think Zeal has a US page. Google can probably convert it for you.

they have a US site http://www.endlessusa.com/

I have zeals on my s14...worth every penny. They even gave me a warranty certificate, how nice of them.

I have stance pro for my s13, but they aren't installed yet so I can't compare

[articdragon192]

^yup, not a prob. edgar. your car is too high....needs to be a little lower man.

I can't. I maxed the front already, lol.

[C. Senor]

^boo. LOL. when your low enough that you get stuck on speed bumps and cant get over them.....then you know you're low enough. and frankly edgar, you're just not low enough....even though you're slightly lower than i.

[articdragon192]

^boo. LOL. when your low enough that you get stuck on speed bumps and cant get over them.....then you know you're low enough. and frankly edgar, you're just not low enough....even though you're slightly lower than i.

I don't get stuck on speedbumps cause I force my way off it, lol. Anyways, doesn't matter if I'm lower by 1mm or by 3 inches, point is, I'm lower ;D

[DoriftoPnoy]

I got GR+ Pros. Ride is way more comfortable than my bro's Ksports. I feel like I need to visit the chiropractor everytime I ride with my bro. But yea, my stances have been pretty good. Stiff when you need it, yet ok on the street.

[davidrools]

I just installed a set of GR+ on my s13 today. I haven't ridden in many other modified cars so I can really only compare to stock. I'm running the 8/6 springs and set the damping to 6, 10, and 13 but its still crazy bouncy. going over roads at speed I could comfortably take my stock suspension, on the stances, it makes me bounce so much that i can't help but jab the throttle with some of the bounces. did I just get some shot dampers or am I doing something wrong? I'm on 215/45/17 tires with about 1.25" of drop all around.

I'm sure I'll have better things to say about Stance once I get a nice ride. This is also a Hicas s13 and the stances didn't have the bracket for the ABS wheel speed sensor so I had to drill in the brake line holder and fab a quick and easy bracket.

[SorJS13]

I ran those settings a few weeks ago, and i'm riding on Stance Basics. I had the same situation as you did. I run 8 front 6 rears now they feel close to stock suspension.

[thatdrifterguy]

can anyone tell me how big of a difference the helper springs make?

[Gjohnson7]

Ok. I hear that Touge Factory has the best support, but who has the best price? The less I spend on parts the more parts I can pick up.

[d*star180]

Ugh........price first, customer service is second then??
Not like the price difference is gonna be more than like 50 bucks between different distributors anyway.
Your buying Stance, not some fucking Ksports.

[Gjohnson7]

I didn't realize customer service was that important when buying coilovers. This will be my first set. What issues arise that I should be concerned about?

[d*star180]

Well, obviously, the suspension of a car is a wear item. And even some of the better mass produced coilovers will have bad apples. So say one of your dampers blow a seal and start leaking, or say you track it and bend one of them. Touge Factory is the main distributor of Stance in the U.S so they can give you exact dates on rebuilds and youd be working first hand with the manufacturer as opposed to a third party organization. Not to mention the Owner of Stance USA, Origin, Version:Select and all that shit is also the owner of TF.

[Oubre]

stance is nothing but good.
zeal/endless is great too.

comes down to pricing and how/when your going to be driving (DD/Track)

:bigok: Stance

[thatdrifterguy]

can anyone tell me how big of a difference the helper springs make?

so does anyone know?

[C. Senor]

^ since you didn't bother to click on the links i provided i'll help you one time. not having these my personally, i would have first hand experience. this is straight from the stance site.

"Helper springs allows the piston to be placed in the optimal position in the shock body, allows full use of rebound stroke, and maximizes articualtion on cars with mininum suspension travel."

and the bounciness guys...cant help but think you put them on yourselves, maybe when adjusting height you messed with the preload. probably put too much preload on them and iirc that would make them bouncy. because i run the 8/6 springs set at 9 on all corners, and mine are not bouncy...nice and stiff, bu not bouncy.

[thatdrifterguy]

i did read that. but i was just asking if you guys felt a noticeable difference. sorry man, forget i asked, im just gonna get the +pros

[C. Senor]

yup. yeah if you got the extra 200 bucks go for it. being a broke ass student i decided i did not need the helper springs. either way you cant go wrong with stance.